[Q] recommended dual sim phone with active rom community? - Android General

Hey, recently it became apparent to me that I need a dual sim phone. I am coming from a sgs2 which on one side was crap because samsung stopped upgrading the OS long time ago but on the otherhand was great because the rom community around it is still pretty strong so I have been able to continue keeping it current.
So suggestions for strong dual sim phones (not toooo worried about price but cheap is of course good) that have active rom dev communities would really appreciated!!!

Moto G 2nd Gen or Moto E 2nd Gen

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Would you get this device again?

Hello
My HTC EVO 4G LTE died and I am looking for a used device to keep me going for a bit till I get a new one later this year. I've always been a fan of QWERTY keyboard and Photon Q intrigues me. Do you guys recommend this device? I am also looking at LG Optimus G.
Thanks
The phone is a bit "old" by today's standards... but if you want a keyboard device (and it looks like you're on Sprint) there's probably none better. Probably never will be either....
The device will never get anything beyond 4.1.2 "officially" - but unofficially (CM support et al is quite good) there is 4.4.3 and will continue to be updates for a while probably.
Seeing the thread's title makes me wanna reply...
I just sold my Photon Q weeks ago because it looked too worn out and I want some fresh experience, but when I have that money again I surely will grab another one - heck, I'll shell out even more money for a like-new one, 'cuz it's worth it if you're a collector or a die-hard QWERTY fan. Totally the best in its class. Performance may not be as high as Optimus G but it holds its own with CM11 and @arrrghhh 's overclock blessings.
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I appreciate all the feedback. I made the decision to go with Optimus G, simply because I am planning to use this device for 6 months and the specs of Optimus G won me over the QWERTY keyboard.
Thanks again for all the help.
if other people also interested here is my opinion
i really like this phone and yes i would buy it again.
i was sad when motorola mobility get sold. that was the dead of droid series.
the quality of the phones are really good. like droid 3 iam in love. (i miss this rubbery back cover)
some years ago there was the samsung I927 but that plastic was feeling bad in my hands and it get sold fast.
u was angry that it will slips out of your hands when open the keyboard or was writing
the droid phones are lieing good in my hands only the nokia n97 (my first qwerty) was better because the diplay was in 45°
my xt897 already fall 2 or 3 times out of my hand on the ground and nothing happened
and i was able to rescue the phones everytime. the phone had no os installed and the battery was 0% but that wasnt a problem.
motorola also had great accessories.
like the lapdocks (support for newer android version is in work. but problem with compling the sources. but i think i know the problem if someone can help me and compling my idea pls contact me)
or power packs (if phone is really dead and there is no charger u can connect it and put both in your pocket. the battery in xt897 is embedded).
also the preformance of xt897 is enough. i not wanne play new high quality games on my phone. i not need 4 cores or something like that in my mobile phone. I like the hdmi jack more that is not found in other phones.
the only problem is that u can not buy a xt897 with sim-slot in a store. but CornholioGSM managed it
but motorla just rock !!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111
They are 93 dollars on Ebay brand new device. Worth every penny. I keep buying them. I have four or five now with cracked screens.
The problem I see as an European, the future is LTE and we cannot use that with this phone, since the frequencies are different than in the States. That is the bummer that will make this phone being replaced in a few years, if it holds that long.
LTE might be the future but as long as H and H+ are working i give a sh*t on LTE...
I'm a hardcore Keyboard-fan and i'm afraid as long as there are no newer devices with a physical keyboard (except Blackberry - i don't like their style) i will use the Q.
And althoug battery is very ****ty I love my Q - thx to all the developers of the AOSP-versions and thx to Cornholio for the SIM-Mod
droid 5
yes until the illusive droid 5 comes out.

[Q] Moto G or Moto G 2nd?

I want to buy Moto G but don't know which version?
Motorola G or Motorola G 2nd.
I like the minimal design from the 1st.
The 2nd has larger screen and SD card, better camera and Android L upgrade.
But when asked Motorola Support if Moto G 2nd would have smaller battery life because of big screen, stereo speakers, SD card and Dual SIM, the answer was yes!
So I'm stuck. Also saw a lot of problems at Motorola support forum.
But of course, these people could be the minority.
What do you think?
The OG Moto G LTE is by far the best one. The Moto G 2 is a downgrade.
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The OG Moto G LTE is by far the best one. The Moto G 2 is a downgrade.
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But it's only available in 8 GB storage so that's a big drawback.
The original Moto G is still worth it, especially the 16GB model.
Now if you really need an SD slot, get the LTE version, even tho there is no 16GB version of it.
Nobody likes the 2nd?! I didn't expect that.
It is so tempting the Android L guaranteed upgrade.
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Nobody likes the 2nd?! I didn't expect that.
It is so tempting the Android L guaranteed upgrade.
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The 2nd gen is the same phone, but substantially bigger, which breaks the charm that the original had. I've seen only one by now and it really feels like a cheaper device. It's not bad though, just.......not what you've expected.
Get the 2nd G if screen size and SD card slot matters to you. Its basically the same device sans screen and SD card slot. Although if u rly want to save money, get the 1st gen 16gb model. Dont buy the 8gb.
Good feedbacks and good thread. I feel smart phones are not worth more than a year. Its a mad race and you are left alone sooner than you think.
--s5360 experience
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I like both phones. But...
I see that the 1st has more problems than the 2nd. At least from what I see at Motorola forums.
I like the design and size of the first (although for me the ideal size is 4.7 - 4.8').
The battery lasts longer and has Gorilla Glass. The forums moderator says that the 2nd also has Gorilla Glass, but they never updated the specs page.
But the 2nd will get Android L and this is very tempting. I asked the Support if the 1st model would get an upgrade and they "don't know".
Right now in my country, the 1st is available and the 2nd is available only as Dual SIM 8GB.
In 2 days 15.000 black version pieces were gone and only the white model of the 2nd is available for now.
Don't know what to do. I am without a phone these days because I bricked the old one trying to install Cyanogenmod.
So somebody could say that if the 1st doesn't get another update, you can root the phone and install CM or something else.
But I'm not an expert. This time I will not tuch the phone or make experiments.
I am pretty happy with my 2013 Moto, 5 inch phones are way too big for my one hand using habit.
For the android L, I believe the 2013 should also get the update, thought the way they put lasted devices getting L 1st is really tempting..

[Q] Which phone to replace my G2?

I have had it with this LG G2 phone.
This will be the 2nd device to have the digitizer fail within just a few days of ownership, this one lasting 15 minutes...
I cannot trust a phone that does not function properly and has this track record in my real world testing...
I loved the specs, I researched phones that I could afford used off eBay, under $200, and thought this G2 to be the sweet spot based upon specifications. What phone do you guy recommend to replace this phone with at least the specs of this phone?
I destroyed all my notes after making the decision on this model, nearly a full month comparing features, etc and never once came upon the issue with this dual digitizer and the dead spots or the ghost typing on the web or in forums.
I already tried the update firmware on touch screen in hidden menu and calibration, I just give up, I need a phone that will last me a couple years, this dual quad core seemed perfect on paper, so disappointed in it...
So need at least a dual quad or octacore, ability to get official Lollipop update in near future, 2G RAM minimum, LTE, prefer SD card access, high megapixel camera, less than 2 years since release, phones with car docks are a plus too...
Any suggestions?
Samsung Note 3 maybe
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sobitthen said:
I have had it with this LG G2 phone.
This will be the 2nd device to have the digitizer fail within just a few days of ownership, this one lasting 15 minutes...
I cannot trust a phone that does not function properly and has this track record in my real world testing...
I loved the specs, I researched phones that I could afford used off eBay, under $200, and thought this G2 to be the sweet spot based upon specifications. What phone do you guy recommend to replace this phone with at least the specs of this phone?
I destroyed all my notes after making the decision on this model, nearly a full month comparing features, etc and never once came upon the issue with this dual digitizer and the dead spots or the ghost typing on the web or in forums.
I already tried the update firmware on touch screen in hidden menu and calibration, I just give up, I need a phone that will last me a couple years, this dual quad core seemed perfect on paper, so disappointed in it...
So need at least a dual quad or octacore, ability to get official Lollipop update in near future, 2G RAM minimum, LTE, prefer SD card access, high megapixel camera, less than 2 years since release, phones with car docks are a plus too...
Any suggestions?
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I changed from LG G2 over an HTC One M8... Amazing!
Ended up getting a 3rd G2, 3rd time was a charm.
Although I find out today I could have bought a brand new G2 for only $20 more off eBay...
They have them for 189.99 now...

[Q] Thinking about getting a Z3 Dual Sim

Hey everybody!
The Z3 (Dual Sim) looks like a perfect phone for me, yet some questions remain:
The name of the Dual Sim variant is Z3 D663, correct?
Are there any custom recoveries or even ROMS for this model? As I'm coming from a Samsung Galaxy I've no idea about the development in the Sony branch, but I read they started releasing more and more kernel sources in the past..
Can you generally recommend the Z3?
What is the biggest turn-off about this phone for you?
How long do you usually get out of one charge?
Every help is appreciated!
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Hey everybody!
The Z3 (Dual Sim) looks like a perfect phone for me, yet some questions remain:
The name of the Dual Sim variant is Z3 D663, correct?
Are there any custom recoveries or even ROMS for this model? As I'm coming from a Samsung Galaxy I've no idea about the development in the Sony branch, but I read they started releasing more and more kernel sources in the past..
Can you generally recommend the Z3?
What is the biggest turn-off about this phone for you?
How long do you usually get out of one charge?
Every help is appreciated!
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I would recommend Z3 for someone who wants good battery life.. I got 5+ hours screen on time with one charge at 50% adaptive brightness.. It can easy pass through two days of moderate usage.
Biggest turn off? Taking care of it, I don't like cases or anything.. Just tempered glass on screen and back side.. So I just don't want to ruin beautiful phone..
Roms are usually good quality.. But lot of Xperia users keep their phone stock with root only.
With unlocking bootloader you loose lot of functions of phone (camera algorithms).. But also, I use it for half year now (ex Z1 user for 2 years) and I don't find a reason to unlock my bootloader..
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Dual sim variant is D6633
Biggest turn off is how it easily scratches and Camera not so great compared to others
Custom roms for dual sim is rare. Even for the single sim variant there isn't that much compared to the Samsung Galaxy collection.
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Afaik there aren't any custom roms for the dual sim model. although I don't really feel the need. the stock Sony skin is pretty good on this device and there are a lot of useful features. While it's not as good as cm it's a ton better than TouchWiz
there is a custom recovery based off of twrp . It's very good although it doesn't support encryption.
the standby battery life is amazing. I measure it at under 1% per hour. However I'm disappointed with the screen on time. I probably get only 5 hours. Although admittedly I'm a pretty heavy user as I have multiple Bluetooth devices and an Android wear SmartWatch
the onboard memory is only 16 gigabytes. For some people that's an issue but not for me. I stuck a 128 gigabyte micro SD card and I have all my media on it. but I could see it being an issue for a heavy gamer.
my last complaint with the device is the speaker and earphone are a little on the quiet side. There are mods that try to boost the volume although they do add a little bit of distortion
overall I'm happy with the device. But its not perfect
BTW. Keep in mind the dual SIM model is not active dual SIM. Its standby sim
Hi. I have the D6633, coming from a Nexus 5 and a Moto G (2013) dual sim beforehand.
Firstly, dual sim is a requirement for me, as I am able to have my work sim and my personal sim in the same phone.
The Moto G was great but lacked several features, namely LTE.
The D6633 overall is an excellent phone. The battery life is fantastic. According to GSam Battery monitor I get an average of 1 day 7 hours battery life with the phone being active an average of 9 hours and about 4-5 hours screen on time. I get my work emails on this phone, so probably sending and receiving 100 odd emails during the work day.
The camera compared to my other previous phones is fine (well, actually much better).
I can't really compare it to the single sim Z3, because I have not had one, but I understand for all intents and purposes it is the same phone. The D6633 does however lack VoLTE, which the single sim version does have. I also notice it gets less software updates than the single sim version.
As for custom roms, the stock rom is actually not too bad, so all I've done is just root it (kept the booloader locked).
One thing I don't like is the dual sim implimentation for dialling. Witht the Moto G, you were able to assign default numbers to a specific sim. With the D6633, you have to choose which sim you want to dial from each time.
Thanks a bunch for sharing your numerous experiences!
As for custom ROMs I'm mainly asking to make sure I can get Android M somehow (my SIII Mini was out of support right when I bought it (4.1.2)) as I am not willing to buy a phone, which will not get updates.
 @browngeek : You said that there are less updates - at which version are you running atm? 5.0.2?
Besides that I'm not a heavy user, so I guess the battery will not die on me too hard
How do the edges on the phone work for you? Is it annyoing to reach over them? 5.2" is quite a number (for persons with small hands)..
Jkay7 said:
Thanks a bunch for sharing your numerous experiences!
As for custom ROMs I'm mainly asking to make sure I can get Android M somehow (my SIII Mini was out of support right when I bought it (4.1.2)) as I am not willing to buy a phone, which will not get updates.
@browngeek : You said that there are less updates - at which version are you running atm? 5.0.2?
Besides that I'm not a heavy user, so I guess the battery will not die on me too hard
How do the edges on the phone work for you? Is it annyoing to reach over them? 5.2" is quite a number (for persons with small hands)..
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Hi, I am on 5.0.2. It seems to get the big updates, but hasn't got incremental updates that the single sim variant receives. I think the D6633 will get 5.1.1, but probably after the single sim version gets it.
As for size, yes, like you I wasn't too sure about the 5.2 factor. However for the most part this is fine. The phone is extremely thin and the bezels are quite thin. There is sometimes a stretch for one hand typing, but overall it is not too much of an issue.
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Hi, I am on 5.0.2. It seems to get the big updates, but hasn't got incremental updates that the single sim variant receives. I think the D6633 will get 5.1.1, but probably after the single sim version gets it.
As for size, yes, like you I wasn't too sure about the 5.2 factor. However for the most part this is fine. The phone is extremely thin and the bezels are quite thin. There is sometimes a stretch for one hand typing, but overall it is not too much of an issue.
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Thanks a lot for all of you help!
I guess I'll go ahead and get the D6633
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Thoughts about the Moto X Pure/Style after extended usage

The point of this post is just to share my thoughts about the direction Motorola has taken with flagships. After using this phone for more than a year I can conclude:
Besides near stock Android and Turbo charging, the phone is mediocre at best. I have never felt as good as what i felt with my previous flagships (a Oneplus One).
The Battery life is way below average. After using the phone for a year the battery has really started to show its age and its not lasting as long as it should.
Another annoying issue I noticed is the fact that Motorola implements almost the same design language for their lower end G series and X series. Apart from the size, someone who isn't a tech geek can easily mistake my Pure for a lower end Motorola phone. The new Z series has fixed this, but again it would be difficult for the uninitiated to tell the difference between a Moto Z Play and the more premium Moto Z. Samsung, LG, HTC, Xiaomi go to great lengths to ensure that their flagships stand out and look very different from the budget phones.
I dont think i need to mention the fact that ever since Lenovo has taken over, the update wait time has increased a great deal, new reports suggest that the Pure will only get Noughat in May 2017
The developers that choose to work on the Pure deserve a lot of credit, but the fact is that a lot of developers chose to develop for other devices rather than the Pure.
A lot of accessory manufacturers decided that the moto X Pure didn't deserve any attention. To find a decent case was not very easy, (I especially missed using a Spigen case) and the fact that there is not a single working tempered Screen glass protector proves this. (I know the Pleson works almost 100% but its not available freely in all countries neither is it perfect.)
In conclusion I'm pretty sure this will be my last Motorola phone simply because it would be smarter to spend a little more and get a Galaxy, and with phones like the Oneplus 3T it makes little sense to buy a phone like the Moto Z which is priced considerably higher.
Would love to hear from other people what they think and if they are going to stay loyal to Motorola.
Heavy weight
Easy to get heated
The point about sharing design with mid range Moto phones is dope. People often ask if it's a Moto X Play or a Moto G 3rd Gen and then we need to tell them it's X Style ??
Well ... I understand your point of view, but what I think is that you chose badly the device, since you found him "mediocre at best"
The points listed:
Comparing the most powerful AND STABLE 32-bit processor to the second in line of Qualcomm's 64-bit generation SOC's with new architecture and everything else, I believe to be extremely wrong, since after the SD810 fiasco the creation of the SD808 was the fix the company used (and i think it was a good one, but this is something mostly disagree with me '^^)
About the OnePlus One, it is really a beast phone with the SD801 (the 32bits GOD) and i understand that you had a remarkable experience with it, since i had (now it is with my girlfriend) an Xperia Z3 with the same SD801 as the OnePlus One i understand when you say it was a more fluid usage, since i think the same, but... I don't think you can compare something that is pretty stable with some new technology.
I never had any problems with the battery because i use as a normal phone and i play games only at home and waiting in lines (bank/medic/...), it gives me something next to 18 hours (stock ROM/kernel) of use with 3 hour SOT or 7 to 8 hours SOT when i use it to watch movies/series/animes in my bed, mostly at weekends. Through the week i unplug it from charger at 6:30, go to work, and at 18:00 i go back home (40 ~ 35% left), the weekend is always a mess for battery stats,
As for the design I don’t have much to say, because I find it very beautiful, and being same design language is a plus for me, i like to have a “invisible phone” in the croud, only people that asks me what is my phone should know the answer.
Now the two really bad points ...
As for Lenovo acquiring Motorola, I fully agree that it was dumb, at least it should keep Motorola working as it always did.
And the lack of smartphone accessories really is laughable
We can keep talking about it, but i really think is a good phone and the testing Nougat ROM's are amazing, i can't wait for the official Nougat update.
btw all samsungs look the same too, comapre new A series with S: very simmilar glass on glass design.
other than that, you're right there are some dissapoitments but it's not real flagship phone, it's more like very good mid-end device, It was never priced like a flagship so don't expect it to be real flagship - that's my opinion. OPO is a differen't story, they managed to get price down with other ways like it's distribution, services ect.
It is a flagship phone. Why would you think otherwise? SD 8xx, 5.7" 2K screen, 21 MP back camera, etc. Upon release the starting price for 16gb was $399, while most mid range phones hit at $250-$300. At this point, nearly 2 years later, it could be considered a mid range but that is because hardware moves forward.
As to my thoughts: I think this is a great phone, even now. I run unrooted stock and pretty much it is a Nexus device with a few extras for customization thrown via Moto apps. These apps are few and I appreciate that they add actual additional features and not just replicate what Android and Google actually does already. The phone runs smooth, has a good camera for good lighting, and handles everything I throw at it. I will admit that battery life could be better, but it is acceptable and at least the turbo charge makes up for this shortcoming. I don't regret this purchase, even if the update process is dismal.
Update: I have hit the end of my warranty period, so I unlocked the bootloader and rooted. I have applied my favorite rooted apps and settings (Xposed, amplify, Greenify, TiBu to disable/uninstall certain apps and services, BBS to track wakelocks, and AdAway) so hopefully I will see improved battery life.
I bought the phone 6 months ago and I love it. I always used to be a android tinkerer. But recently most of the features that I used to root for have become stock. All I really need in a phone is stock android (although I wish we would get updates sooner) and the front facing speakers (because anything else is stupid). While I will probably be buying whatever google has out when I decide that it is time to upgrade in a year or two. It isn't due to anything motorola did wrong in particular. I also tend to keep phones a long time and upgrade to a tried and tested phone (which 6 months ago was the moto x pure, getting great reviews.) I upgraded from the Galaxy Note 2, and this was a wonderful step up.
I bought mine used last summer, upgrading from a Galaxy Note II. I'm a little disappointed in the battery life, but it gets me through most days. I agree about the lack of accessories and the slowing speed of updates. I'm also amazed at how well my Note II still stands up while running a custom MM Rom. I hope the X Pure works that well when it is that old.
But there are things that I really love about this phone too. I am amazed at how good the front speakers sound. I never thought I would care this much, but they are really good. I'm happy with the camera, since most of my photography is in good lighting conditions. This is my first phone with a camera that was good enough to not bother with a point and shoot. I'll move to a custom ROM if the updates stop altogether, but they haven't stopped yet. I'm happy that it still has a headphone jack, I use it all the time. Speed is fast enough to never annoy me, where my Note 2 was fast enough to rarely annoy me.
I choose this phone as an aging flagship instead of a midrange (Honor 5X, Asus Zenfone Laser 2, Moto G 3rd Gen) and I'm glad that I did.
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Znomon said:
I bought the phone 6 months ago and I love it. I always used to be a android tinkerer. But recently most of the features that I used to root for have become stock. All I really need in a phone is stock android (although I wish we would get updates sooner) and the front facing speakers (because anything else is stupid). While I will probably be buying whatever google has out when I decide that it is time to upgrade in a year or two. It isn't due to anything motorola did wrong in particular. I also tend to keep phones a long time and upgrade to a tried and tested phone (which 6 months ago was the moto x pure, getting great reviews.) I upgraded from the Galaxy Note 2, and this was a wonderful step up.
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I bought mine used last summer, upgrading from a Galaxy Note II. I'm a little disappointed in the battery life, but it gets me through most days. I agree about the lack of accessories and the slowing speed of updates. I'm also amazed at how well my Note II still stands up while running a custom MM Rom. I hope the X Pure works that well when it is that old.
But there are things that I really love about this phone too. I am amazed at how good the front speakers sound. I never thought I would care this much, but they are really good. I'm happy with the camera, since most of my photography is in good lighting conditions. This is my first phone with a camera that was good enough to not bother with a point and shoot. I'll move to a custom ROM if the updates stop altogether, but they haven't stopped yet. I'm happy that it still has a headphone jack, I use it all the time. Speed is fast enough to never annoy me, where my Note 2 was fast enough to rarely annoy me.
I choose this phone as an aging flagship instead of a midrange (Honor 5X, Asus Zenfone Laser 2, Moto G 3rd Gen) and I'm glad that I did.
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Note 2 holdout here too . I'm just finishing up my first week since the upgrade and am quite pleased so far. I have the feeling that the MXPE is going to be a good low maintenance, long haul phone that I can get a few good years of service out of without too much hand-holding, just like with the Note. And with a nice, bright LCD screen instead of Led, I won't ever have to worry about burn-in or custom kernels to help correct green tint; pretty much everything just works. In fact, there's a ton of features that used to require a special app or a custom rom on the Note 2 that are built right in to the X, so there was a lot less effort required out-of-the-box to get everything to work, and on the stock Rom, no less! Even tethering works on the stock rom, which is something that I've never seen on any smartphone in my life.
Comparing the battery life of the two devices, I have yet to conclude any formal tests, but so far, the Pure Edition looks like it's going to be delivering 3-4 hours of screen-on time at best, while the Note 2 delivered as much as 4-5 hours on a good day. That said, I used that phone much more conservatively, so that could have something to do with it, but overall, the runtime of the Pure Edition isn't looking all that great. I think it's just got too much power for its own good, and when you combine that with a ludicrously-high screen resolution, (which demands more effort to render those high-resolution fonts and animations) it strains the CPU and GPU more. Time will tell if things improve after I settle in with it.
Overall I am happy with my X pure, though I share some of the others gripes.
Pros
-Screen
-Above average camera
-Good front camera with flash
-Good CPU, 3GB RAM
-front speakers
-no complaint on call quality
-Sd card slot - I have a 64GB card split as 20GB adopted and 40GB external
-moto ROM is near stock
-Moto features are well done (lock screen notifications)
-Simple unlock/root process
-GSM & CDMA = yes on VZ
-Quich charge 2
-understated design (I like it, others not as much)
- PRICE for these features unmatched
Cons
-Gets hot under load
-Battery life could be better - depends on how much I use it. GPS OFF helps. QC is a necessity with this phone
- lack of choice for accessories
- curved back - one handed is a chore and can't use on the table face up. It does feel nice to hold for a call though.
Other
- upgrade cycle has been slower than some would like. However it still exists at least. Other phones would be dead by now, this one is still alive.
Overall, Pros outweigh the cons and there is a lot for me to love about this phone.
I think I have been spoiled, because I'm finding it hard to find a device to upgrade to without sacrifices. The only phones I would consider are the Pixel and Moto G4 and one is expensive and the other underpowered.
well, i did the poll but i did it as a yes i would buy another, with condition of course.
i came from the original disappointed motorola fans, the Photon 4G fan. back then... it was the photon of the era. It had the ability to work as a PC, GSM capabilities, 4G wimax and at the time was the best performance with dual core 1 gigahertz and qHD. really a prime of a phone at that time compared to the S2 and the evo. cyanogenmod came out and did wonders on that phone because moto blur was so trashy. Then... the worst happened. Sprint ordered motorola to lock down the bootloader to 2.3.6 which is severely locked and no modifications were allowed to be done anymore. those who were lucky to not have 2.3.6 were able to mod to ICS but those who had 2.3.6 had to bootstrap the phone to work with cyanogenmod and that even was a piss poor attempt at making it work.
now i buy the moto x pure with alot of resentment from the photon but after hearing the reviews is when i bought it. after plagues of hardware problems with hte nexus 5 i simply needed a way to go back and the best device was the moto x. i was so sure i wanted this phone i custom ordered it (after reading rave reviews), i ordered the black leather with red accent 64 gig with 2 years protection. with over a year on this phone... i will admit i still love it.
there were a few hardware problems but i do have the 2 year protection and they did repair it for me... replaced the screen and the battery and wireless modules. i since then have not had problems with it (and believe they remedied the issues that i had with the older devices). i own an HTC M9, and my sister has the s7 edge. the only thing i like about the m9 is the dolby atmos and the carrier aggregation (hoping for a wireless update for the X). other than that... my phone is still superior despite older technology.
why?
i love my moto x because of the moto display. my absolute favorite! i also love the flash light and camera gestures.
the camera works great, signal is still better than most other phones, it barely crashes, the speakers still work very well, still speedy, turbo charge is still an amazing product and i bought the car charger for it. battery had 90 mins on screen time and still has 41% battery and i like the fact its unlocked gsm. i tried freedom pop a few weeks ago and i put that sim in. switched over quickly and it worked great then when i was done... i put my sprint sim back in and it worked just as great too.
the reason i dont see much to switch to however is because samsung, LG, and HTC hasnt really enticed me yet as to why their phone is better. samsung i have to see what will make them different... but LG really hasnt enticed me and im curious on what HTC does, though im not a metal phone fan (feel the feraday cage idea disintegrates the signal, IMO). Pixel is nice... but i simply dont have the money.
what would make me switch to another phone...
1) 4 gig of ram (preferably 6 gigs)
2) HPUE has to be baked in for Sprint LTE at a minimum but 5 channel aggregation would be amazing, AND GSM UNLOCKED
3) best camera software
4) minimum 5.5 inch screen
5) battery that will last for full 24 hours without need of charge or quick charge 4.0 with dual pol
6) shatter resistance and waterproof
for now... the moto x meets my demands without incremental improvements until i see whats next. hopefully a moto z successor that actually works on sprint
In the 2 years it has been out the update cycle has been slower than Samsung's Motorola did not deliver on the support side the main selling point they had with this device was it was going to be similar to the Nexus upgrade cycle well my warranty was up before the first update came out... In addition to the fiasco that is accessories for this phone I am really regretting not going with the LG v10
I don't know why everyone still complains about the accessories. This was never a mainstream device since it was completely carrier independent and sold unlocked. The previous Moto X (and Moto G) line was sold as both branded and unlocked so they were actually seen at pretty much any company that sold cellular service. For those looking for contract or payment plan pricing, they could get it from the carrier. With limited visibility, and the lack of payment plans through carriers the Pure was just not that popular. Companies that make accessories are going to focus on popular selling phones first as that is where they will make the most money... At least we have some options.
I sold my Moto X Pure to buy a Google Pixel XL.
If I were to sell the Pixel XL, then the Moto X Pure is the only phone I'd consider buying.
It was the best all-around phone I've ever had.
I'd even go with it over the new OnePlus 3 second edition or Galaxy S7 variants.
Regardless of price.
Moto Z. lmao what a stinker that phone is compared to Moto X Pure.
Unless you want pretty. Then you shouldn't even be on XDA if that's all you care about.
Interesting comments. I've been a Nexus owner for years, with the 6P being my prior phone. It became my prior phone due to the all too common Boot Loop of Death (BLOD) that seems to be impacting more and more owners. While Huawei did replace it with a refurb'ed model, not in mint shape like the one I sent, but it did come back with 128g instead of the 32g I sent. The battery is terrible as compared with the MXPE, I've been through most of the custom roms/kernels and nothing has really helped and I don't do social media nor play games on it. The built in features of the Moto really impressed me, they are actually functional and add value. The Moto Display is excellent as is the voice recognition of the Moto voice. The bluetooth stack seems to have issues (with me at least), my cell signal is a bit worse and the lack of updates is sad.
I've considered the Pixel, but the price is insane and after having the Pixel features on the 6P I'm happy with the Moto.
When I got my 6P back, it took about a week to change my sim back to it from the Moto, I put it back in the Moto the next day and don't plan on taking it out.
I've had several issues with my Moto X Pure:
1. Frequent static emanating from the headphone jack, which puts a real damper on quiet classical music. I've read on discussion boards that this is a known problem with jacks on the Moto X.
2. Failure to recognize SD cards. I'm now on my third card, and the phone is less than a year old.
3. The camera now fails to operate because of a "lack of disk space" -- although I have more than 24GB available.
Like you, I will never buy another Motorola phone.
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I've had several issues with my Moto X Pure:
1. Frequent static emanating from the headphone jack, which puts a real damper on quiet classical music. I've read on discussion boards that this is a known problem with jacks on the Moto X.
2. Failure to recognize SD cards. I'm now on my third card, and the phone is less than a year old.
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1. This is interesting and must be sample-specific. I'm a pretty avid music listener and haven't had any problems with the headphone output on either of my MXPEs (had to RMA my first toward the end of the warranty period). I'd definitely notice and complain if there were any perceptible noise.
2. This one I do have experience with. I bought a brand new Samsung EVO 64 GB mSD card at the same time as the phone, and it gave me fits, but seems to work in other devices. Tried an older SanDisk I had laying around and it's worked fine.
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1. This is interesting and must be sample-specific. I'm a pretty avid music listener and haven't had any problems with the headphone output on either of my MXPEs (had to RMA my first toward the end of the warranty period). I'd definitely notice and complain if there were any perceptible noise.
2. This one I do have experience with. I bought a brand new Samsung EVO 64 GB mSD card at the same time as the phone, and it gave me fits, but seems to work in other devices. Tried an older SanDisk I had laying around and it's worked fine.
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I've had issues with static, but only on some select 3.5mm plugs. I just figure it was that specific plug itself.
Have had no issues with my SanDisk plus. I use it as removable storage and not as adopted storage. But going back to your statement, I have owned a multiple phones and have noticed some don't play well with certain brands of cards but do well with others. I'm not sure why this is but it does happen.
I really hope I don't get SD slot troubles. My Note 2 did that and it drove me crazy. Maybe next time I should just shell out for a 64+ GB phone.
Times have changed
smallmj said:
I really hope I don't get SD slot troubles. My Note 2 did that and it drove me crazy. Maybe next time I should just shell out for a 64+ GB phone.
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Newer versions of Android (and their apps, along with the stock Rom apparently) are not nearly as frugal with the 16GB of storage as the Note2 was. I'm already at 7.8/9.6GB used with just a basic load of apps and data (music is on the card and camera photos are also directed to be stored there) on the MXPE.
For comparison, my Note2 has a massive load of software & data, plus a ton of camera photos, all on the main storage volume, and only 6.26GB out of the total 10.95GB available are used.
All that to say that 16GB used to be plenty, but "modern" software is just too bloated for that. If I do upgrade phones anytime in the next ~2 years, it'll probably be to a larger Moto X Pure Edition, but for now, that 64GB MicroSD card should be plenty adequate.

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