Phone performance - Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I disabled the "Turn over to mute" and "Turn over to activate" settings under Settings > Gestures and i would swear my phone is actually performing better than what it was. Can anyone confirm this for me?

It could be a placebo but I notice it. I had already turned off flip to snooze on mine but left flip to mute on. I had lag when changing from Chrome back to the Homescreen prior to turning off the flip to mute setting. After turning it off it did not lag. In an attempt to recreate the issue I cleared the memory and did it again with no apps running in the background as a baseline and had lag with flip to mute on vs off when going from Chrome back to the homescreen. Also tested it when opening and scrolling through the app drawer. I can't wait for 5.1 update, if it comes...

After switching to Apex launcher, and turning off the other two gestures in the Settings, I have had no instances of missed double taps. It was pretty reliable to begin with, but yes, I was noticing some drops. But those are now gone.
I know everyone is complaining of UI lag - which is indeed present. However I decided to do a more real world test. I loaded up WatchESPN, OSMonitor, Play Store,
Gmail, Firefox (with Engadget open), Two camera apps, Hangouts, Play Newsstand, HBO Go, Google Photos, ES File Explorer, N7 Music Player, YouTube and MX Player. After loading all these up one after another, I started Nokia Here Maps - and asked it to locate an address on the other side of town and compute point to point directions to it. It took what seemed like a blink of an eye, and it was back with the route. I then turned WiFi off ( so that it cannot hand over the task to a server in the cloud ) , and asked it to compute another route, and again it was back within a second, with multiple route alternatives. So - to me - this is a more real life use case - I will actually be using the device a lot in this fashion - and for that - it is performing quite well. In general I have noticed that the UI lag does not get worse with the number of apps loaded. So when it come to real heavy lifting, I think the device is doing pretty well .
There is a YouTube video out there today, which is claiming that the Alcatel did better than a Galaxy S6 in running multiple 3D games simultaneously. I will myself never play any games on this device . For my applications - I find the performance satisfactory. Of course, this clearly has all the 5.0 performance issues, which I am hoping will clear up with 5.1 / 5.2 update.

You may want to go under developer options and try things such as disabled the animation scales or lowering them from 1.0 to .5 and possibly enabling gpu decoding of 2d content.....disabling the animation will give the ui response a bit of snappiness.
If you are running nova launcher it has it's own animation settings under "look and feel" and you can choose the "faster than light" option....I disable all the animations...I'm interested in gettings things done..not gimicks and "flash". I'm sure apex has similar settings.

famewolf said:
You may want to go under developer options and try things such as disabled the animation scales or lowering them from 1.0 to .5 and possibly enabling gpu decoding of 2d content.....disabling the animation will give the ui response a bit of snappiness.
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I already have animations down to 0.5 - I am not touching anything else there. Apex has a setting to speed up some animations as well.
What is a good way to test the browser ? I am using Firefox - with adblock plus.

stl1859 said:
I already have animations down to 0.5 - I am not touching anything else there. Apex has a setting to speed up some animations as well.
What is a good way to test the browser ? I am using Firefox - with adblock plus.
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When the phone is rooted I'll use adaway....what exactly do you want to "test"? I use lightning+ browser(lightning browser (without the +) is free) which is always nice and snappy.

I've found, that turning of the OS "vibrate" on tap functions seems to have improved performance for me. At the very least it feels better. I feel like i was getting 2 different vibrations when using keyboard, and it would double tap things by accident as a result. You also need to independently turn off vibration on the keyboard if you want it gone completely.

Has anyone noticed that transition animation scale keeps on reverting back to 1x after it has been set to 0.5x ? Does this qualify as a bug ? Or is there something I am missing ?
BTW - even with the third party launcher, I am getting unresponsive double-tap ( wake only ) occasionally, and unset/set the option always brings it back. This is something that Alcatel should be able to fix - clearly a software issue.

stl1859 said:
Has anyone noticed that transition animation scale keeps on reverting back to 1x after it has been set to 0.5x ? Does this qualify as a bug ? Or is there something I am missing ?
BTW - even with the third party launcher, I am getting unresponsive double-tap ( wake only ) occasionally, and unset/set the option always brings it back. This is something that Alcatel should be able to fix - clearly a software issue.
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Has anyone found a fix for this? Mine does this as well, resetting the transition scale!
Thanks

zapper_master said:
Has anyone found a fix for this? Mine does this as well, resetting the transition scale!
Thanks
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Never had that problem, I've been using nova prime and double tap to wake works perfectly.
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adw launcher: slow rotation (due to widgets?)

I'm experiencing very slow screen rotation when I re-orientate my Tab, especially on my main home screen.I have two widgets and a bunch of icon on there, and if I turn my Tab 90° it takes around 3-4 seconds to react, then I get a black screen for another second or two, then the icons re-appear, then another second later, the widgets.
I get the impression that the rotation is quicker on a homescreen with no widgets but full of icons, but it's still rather slow.
The original launcher also isn't really amazingly fast on rotation, but it's a good deal faster than adw. In the (native) browser, screen rotation is almost instantaneous, btw.
Does anyone have a suggestion how to speed up the rotation on the homescreen? It's annoying like this, because the Tab is often in landscape orientation when I take it out of my coat pocket, then I have to wait several seconds before it'll react to anything.
Is it using alot of cpu in taskmgr?
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Is it using alot of cpu in taskmgr?
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Not really. It's using quite a bit of RAM (~24MB) but only about 0.9% CPU.
Btw, here's a short video to illustrate what I'm talking about: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sjpum75xpZk
(Sorry for the bad quality, shot with my trusty old G1 - btw, I'm rotating Portrait -> Landscape in the Video, but the video is rotated 90°)
I'm currently using adw.launcher and my rotation is perfectly fine with lcd density changes and widgets stretched and multiples on single screens.
It's odd that yours is so very slow. Did you root it and do the lag fix? Or do you have a scrolling widget active and have it forcing draw on orientation? Maybe use ti backup and check your running processes.
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funny, I tested 2 widgets yesterday (1 clock + 1 bat) and i notice rotating screen would be sluggish, so i checked ADW cpu usage was jumping around 50-80%
i ended up removing both widgets, and have not experienced it again..
And if u go thru the adw-settings and turn off all the eyecandy and restart what happens then?
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funny, I tested 2 widgets yesterday (1 clock + 1 bat) and i notice rotating screen would be sluggish, so i checked ADW cpu usage was jumping around 50-80%
i ended up removing both widgets, and have not experienced it again..
And if u go thru the adw-settings and turn off all the eyecandy and restart what happens then?
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Rooted yes (z4root) but no lag fix...which one would you recommend?
Also, I just notice that it gets quite a bit quicker when I use one of the stock wallpapers instead of my own 1200x1024 image. Looking into that now.
Have u tried switching back to stock launcher to compare if the same issue apears, or ex. Zeam launcher?
i recommend no lagfix...never testet it.
biopsin said:
Have u tried switching back to stock launcher to compare if the same issue apears, or ex. Zeam launcher?
i recommend no lagfix...never testet it.
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Ok, so the wallpaper seems to be the main culprit. When using a stock wallpaper, both adw and the stock launcher perform about equally. I've also applied the OCLF, but don't notice any difference.
Did u notice the dpi for your custom background, maybe scale it down to 72dpi if its higher..
those who tested the lagfix on the tab did not notice anything either, but higher bench scores..
There is often a considerable amount of lag when switching from portrait (my main use) to landscape (mostly used for reading PDF or EPUB text, and sometimes for web-browsing). Clearly the refresh of shortcut icons and widgets appears to be the culprit, it doesn't seem related to background rendering. I tried various combinations of graphical settings, to no avail. I am running 200 LCD density, but I had the same problem with the original value (240).
Note: I use ADW.Launcher mainly because of the "categories/groups" feature, which makes it a *lot* easier to organize my 200+ applications. The other features are pretty much the same as all the other launchers.
People say the lag fix is unecessary since stock tab is quite snappy, but i recently uninstalled it and noticed a slow down with redraws on my screens with adw.launcher. Agreed though any launcher will slow down with more icons/widgets. Especially those that have been stretched by adw
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ADWLauncher - I turn off the animations and turn the delays and
overshoot down as far as they will go. I also make the drawer
background flat black with no transparency. Makes for a VERY fast
launcher. I also set the "System persistent" option in "System
Preferences". That seems to help keep Android from killing it off.
Returning to home is dawn near instant now.
System animations (Settings->Display->Animation) is set to "No
Animations". Again, makes things faster and I get bored watching the
redraws.

EMUI quirks and annoyances

I’ve used stock or (virtually stock) Android phones for years. My last properly skinned phone was a Samsung Galaxy s II. So using EMUI on this phone has been interesting. There is a lot that I like, but here I’ll describe a few annoying quirks I’ve noticed, plus any partial-solutions I use. Hopefully this will inform perspective and current P20 owners, but also, if you have a solution to any of these problems, do let me know!
- The settings menu is terrible. They have messed with it so much, and added so many settings, that it is often impossible to find what you’re looking for. The solution is to search, which, thankfully, works well.
- The lock screen wallpaper changes every time you unlock the phone. I feel like an idiot, but I can’t work out how to set my own (single!) wallpaper. There are these collections which you can choose between, and then from the lock screen itself you can favourite wallpapers from the collection (not sure what this does) and pause on a wallpaper from the collection, and it looks like you can add your own collections, but this doesn’t seem to work. There MUST be a work around. All I want is the same wallpaper on my lock and home screen!
- Notification content (including media controls) is always hidden on the lockscreen until you authenticate, regardless of the app setting. This seems to be a bug. Setting up face unlock (and swipe to unlock) at least means you can see your lock screen with notification content when at a face-unlock-friendly angle.
- The double tap vol down to launch camera works fine, except when I’m listening to music, when it just turns down the music. No idea why they don’t give this functionality to the lock button like most OEMs.
- Unlock by voice for Google Assistant doesn’t seem to work. I’ve had this problem on other phones so don’t know if I’d blame Huawei. It responds to ‘OK Google’ from screen off (which is better than my OnePlus) but won’t actually unlock.
- The always on display is a bit weak. It doesn’t even properly show notifications.
Anything to add? What EMUI quirks have you found?
Try this for always on display and notifications
https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-p20-pro/how-to/display-notifications-set-t3776376
The settings menu is terrible. They have messed with it so much, and added so many settings, that it is often impossible to find what you’re looking for. The solution is to search, which, thankfully, works well.
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I find the settings menu perfect compared to samsung or other brands.
The lock screen wallpaper changes every time you unlock the phone. I feel like an idiot, but I can’t work out how to set my own (single!) wallpaper. There are these collections which you can choose between, and then from the lock screen itself you can favourite wallpapers from the collection (not sure what this does) and pause on a wallpaper from the collection, and it looks like you can add your own collections, but this doesn’t seem to work. There MUST be a work around. All I want is the same wallpaper on my lock and home screen!
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Just open gallery, open any picture you want, set as background for home- and lockscreen, thats it
Notification content (including media controls) is always hidden on the lockscreen until you authenticate, regardless of the app setting. This seems to be a bug. Setting up face unlock (and swipe to unlock) at least means you can see your lock screen with notification content when at a face-unlock-friendly angle.
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You can set to show always full content, even if not authenticated.
The always on display is a bit weak. It doesn’t even properly show notifications.
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I´m sure there will be more options with further firmware updates
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I have sometimes problems with starting my spotify automatically when connecting a bluetooth device, I think a sleep mode problem. Another bug is the one with updating widgets. My calendar widget f.e. crashes after a time. found a workaround with "your calendar widget".
But I think all in all its a great phone with great features
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The lock screen wallpaper changes every time you unlock the phone. I feel like an idiot, but I can’t work out how to set my own (single!) wallpaper. There are these collections which you can choose between, and then from the lock screen itself you can favourite wallpapers from the collection (not sure what this does) and pause on a wallpaper from the collection, and it looks like you can add your own collections, but this doesn’t seem to work. There MUST be a work around. All I want is the same wallpaper on my lock and home screen!
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You can find this setting in 'Security & privacy' - 'Screen lock & passwords'
=> 'Update covers' to enable and disable it and 'Covers' to choose the pictures to show
EMUI has made me fall back in love with OxygenOS - the way EMUI treats notifications and the lock screen is diabolical. If I unlock my Oneplus 3 but don't read a notification, I can lock it again and the notification remains on the lock screen. The notifications span the whole screen, and work perfectly.
Also, Spotify on OxygenOS uses album cover art as lock screen wallpaper when playing, similar to how EMUI treats the local Music app.
This gonna be a debate for eternity.
People who come from xiaomi or samsung wont feel too awkward with emui,
Different case if you come from AOSP, or Oxygen or LOS.
Best solution is slapping NOVA launcher as soon as you use the phone.
I've used several Huawei phones now, in fact since the Mate 8 they've tended to be my main phones through most of the year (I still try others, but tend to come back for the battery life and cameras, granted the cameras have not been as good as competitors but the camera systems are more fun to me as a person with an amateur interest in photography and I've taken a lot of shots I don't think I could have got from the others). The P8Max was my first, and the UI/OS was a bit of a dogs breakfast - so many things were broken (many due to trying to increase battery longevity) and many other things required complex workarounds beyond installing Nova which I've had on each of them. It's pretty well fine now, but if you're coming from Samsung or others it's very different and will take a bit of time to adjust to - particularly the level of granular control you have on things affecting battery life. Once you get a handle on it you'll probably end up appreciating a lot of what it offers.
Google Assistant works fine but it makes conflict with Huawei voice control (so turn off one of them)
Double tap volume down to launch camera is a great idea but why the hell it does not work when players or different apps are in the background.....
Hi there!
Setting your own lockscreen carousel:
Settings>security & privacy>screen lock & passwords>magazine unlock>subscriptions>added by me>add>choose image
You can create your own cycle of wallpapers.
In themes App make sure you set me>customize>lock screen style>magazine unlock
I wish adjusting the volume on Bluetooth headphones adjusted the master volume like on all previous phones I've had instead of acting like an in-line control.
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Hi how do you get rid of double tap on home screen it's do annoying it's a short cut to access latest apps that have used I have Nova Which is excellent and I'm coming from a Samsung S7 to a P20 pro please help !!
To enable or stop scrolling wallaper just swype from the bottom on the lockscreen and you will see Pause button at the left. if you press that, the scrolling will be disabled and a "play" icon will remain.
I've debloating quite a lot from emui.
Installed swap torpedo
Runs faster now and battery lasts longer.
Huawei should offer a vanilla update.
Last time I saw so much bloat was on Samsung.
Unnecessary.
EMUI was one of the reasons I ditched my P10 after 6 months, went back to an iPhone, then to a Nokia 5...
Have any of the roms developed for the P20 done away with EMUI otherwise this device will be another one i'll have to remove from the list of potential upgrades.
Killing foreground apps
Hi, just bought the p20 pro after years with Samsung. I have noticed that it often kills apps that I am currently using, sending me back to the home screen (reminds me of a crash to desktop in windows computers).
After some googling similar problems I adjusted the app auto start and ignore battery optimization settings and it did get better, although it is still killing apps which I presume is using a lot of memory or battery (or both?), for example posting stuff on Instagram (Instagram is whitelisted from optimization and managed manually).
This is really bugging me, anyone else with the same problem? I'm running android 8.1.0, EMUI 8.1.0 and memory always stays between 2,5 and 3 GB.
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Hi, just bought the p20 pro after years with Samsung. I have noticed that it often kills apps that I am currently using, sending me back to the home screen (reminds me of a crash to desktop in windows computers).
After some googling similar problems I adjusted the app auto start and ignore battery optimization settings and it did get better, although it is still killing apps which I presume is using a lot of memory or battery (or both?), for example posting stuff on Instagram (Instagram is whitelisted from optimization and managed manually).
This is really bugging me, anyone else with the same problem? I'm running android 8.1.0, EMUI 8.1.0 and memory always stays between 2,5 and 3 GB.
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This is one of the biggest problems I have with this phone. It keeps killing Skype and I miss calls due to it...
rajeshr said:
This is one of the biggest problems I have with this phone. It keeps killing Skype and I miss calls due to it...
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Yeah, it's turning out to be a deal breaker for me.. Too bad since I really like the phone. Just hope it's a bug ?
Something seems to be happening to spotify when it is running in the background using my bluetooth headphones. I get stuttering and odd pauses, its basically unusable.
I have found if I use andriod auto to run spotify or use the wake lock program to keep the phone in a higher power mode it seems to help. If I have the charger plugged in it works fine as well. It appears to be some sort of power saving issue (yes I have told the phone to ignore spotify's power usage) or something to do with bluetooth power saving. But it works fine in a car.
Thats my only real complaint, and had I known I would have this issue I would have probably grabbed a onePlus device. Using Sure 215's
One thing I did notice, and I also fixed the problem quite simply.
I turned the display Resolution to HD from FHD my thinking was with a lower resolution I'd have better battery and better performance.
What I got was worse.
60fps lagged so badly it was unusable.
Transitions especially to the Google feed lagged and was annoying.
Asphalt 9 lagged and was extremely crap.
Turned FHD back on, all went back to silky smoothes??
Logic didn't exactly prevail here but it works.
So in short if you've turned on adaptive resolution or HD.
Turn it off
I'm facing this weird problem with my p20 pro. In. 128 and 131 and 152 firmware versions whenever in have an incoming call my screen doesn't wake up to show my who is calling me, unless I press the power button or the fingerprint sensor. If the call is missed my screen wakes up normally to show me the missed call notification. Any solution?? I have no fingerprint lock or pass code lock. Just swipe.
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Things i'd like to see fixed in the next update (L29)

Overall this phone has been way above expectations. There are a few quirks that hopefully will get addressed in a future update and hopefully Huawei is watching...
1. USB charging from laptop/desktop/car. It trickle charges at 200ma, most other phones charge at 1 amp and up connected to my car. Same with my laptop. Not having good charging in the car is a problem because I cannot use another charger with Android Auto, I have to have it plugged into the car's USB port. All my other phones would get at least 1 AMP charging rates, I don't need super charging or anything, but 1 amp or what the car can support out would be nice.
2. Camera crashing. I have to reboot the phone almost every day because I go to fire up the camera app and it cannot connect to the camera. I am not a heavy camera users either, but I do use video chatting about an hour a day. Basically all the cameras front and back just go offline after some use.
3. Using a 3rd party launcher like Nova, it's fairly buggy, but it sounds like this fix is already in the works so we'll leave it at that.
4. When using gesture navigation the left and right swipes for back need to be physically lowered on the screen to say the bottom third. There are a few apps that need this swiping action (Google play) that will close. I have to do the swipe way way up high to get the phone to not invoke the back button.
5. Less aggressive background task killing. I still have some things that get killed once in a while even with all the appropriate things set.
6. Some sort of on screen notification light or alert in conjunction with the always on screen so we can visually see at a glace if there is a message waiting. Just a simple flashing dot in the corner would do.
The only other thing I had noticed and this only happened once so might be a fluke was that the alarm clock failed to play my custom alarm tone, it instead played some fairly quiet beeping noise. Not good if you rely on the alarms waking you up.
The bugs I would like to see fixed are the gestures as well and the systemUI issue when using the minimum width setting in developer options and the fact that it resets after every reboot. Ive never had a camera issue with my device so I'm not sure if it's just related to something you have installed or just a glitch as I factory reset mine after I got it. Double tap to wake would be nice also.
What's buggy about Nova Launcher? It's working perfectly on my end.
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The bugs I would like to see fixed are the gestures as well and the systemUI issue when using the minimum width setting in developer options and the fact that it resets after every reboot. Ive never had a camera issue with my device so I'm not sure if it's just related to something you have installed or just a glitch as I factory reset mine after I got it. Double tap to wake would be nice also.
What's buggy about Nova Launcher? It's working perfectly on my end.
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Double tap to wake is a good one...
Nova Launcher - when swiping up to go to the home screen, most of the time it actually goes to the recent tasks. But I thought others that didn't use gestures had alot more issues?
I will clear data and cache on the camera app and see if that does any thing.... Possibly its the Line app I use for video chatting as that uses the camera alot.
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Double tap to wake is a good one...
Nova Launcher - when swiping up to go to the home screen, most of the time it actually goes to the recent tasks. But I thought others that didn't use gestures had alot more issues?
I will clear data and cache on the camera app and see if that does any thing.... Possibly its the Line app I use for video chatting as that uses the camera alot.
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Install OnePlus gestures from the Play Store (it's cheap) and use that. It will override the Huawei bottom gestures. You'll still have the Huawei side gestures though.
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Install OnePlus gestures from the Play Store (it's cheap) and use that. It will override the Huawei bottom gestures. You'll still have the Huawei side gestures though.
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Thanks for the tip, that is a good workaround!
Except for the persistent notification you can't turn off....
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Install OnePlus gestures from the Play Store (it's cheap) and use that. It will override the Huawei bottom gestures. You'll still have the Huawei side gestures though.
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Thanks for the tip, that is a good workaround!
Except for the persistent notification you can't turn off....
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Download fluid gestures from the store. Far superior to Huawei and OnePlus.
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omniphil said:
Overall this phone has been way above expectations. There are a few quirks that hopefully will get addressed in a future update and hopefully Huawei is watching...
1. USB charging from laptop/desktop/car. It trickle charges at 200ma, most other phones charge at 1 amp and up connected to my car. Same with my laptop. Not having good charging in the car is a problem because I cannot use another charger with Android Auto, I have to have it plugged into the car's USB port. All my other phones would get at least 1 AMP charging rates, I don't need super charging or anything, but 1 amp or what the car can support out would be nice.
2. Camera crashing. I have to reboot the phone almost every day because I go to fire up the camera app and it cannot connect to the camera. I am not a heavy camera users either, but I do use video chatting about an hour a day. Basically all the cameras front and back just go offline after some use.
3. Using a 3rd party launcher like Nova, it's fairly buggy, but it sounds like this fix is already in the works so we'll leave it at that.
4. When using gesture navigation the left and right swipes for back need to be physically lowered on the screen to say the bottom third. There are a few apps that need this swiping action (Google play) that will close. I have to do the swipe way way up high to get the phone to not invoke the back button.
5. Less aggressive background task killing. I still have some things that get killed once in a while even with all the appropriate things set.
6. Some sort of on screen notification light or alert in conjunction with the always on screen so we can visually see at a glace if there is a message waiting. Just a simple flashing dot in the corner would do.
The only other thing I had noticed and this only happened once so might be a fluke was that the alarm clock failed to play my custom alarm tone, it instead played some fairly quiet beeping noise. Not good if you rely on the alarms waking you up.
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1. They won't change it. This is why the have a super charger for the car.
2. Never had a single camera issue.
3. Nova works like a champ. Uninstall stock launcher via ADB. Install fluid gestures from store, ZERO problems.
4. Use Fluid Gestures from play store.
5. You can change the background killing in development settings. To be less aggressive.
6. Won't happen. Have to find a workaround.
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Download fluid gestures from the store. Far superior to Huawei and OnePlus.
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1. They won't change it. This is why the have a super charger for the car.
2. Never had a single camera issue.
3. Nova works like a champ. Uninstall stock launcher via ADB. Install fluid gestures from store, ZERO problems.
4. Use Fluid Gestures from play store.
5. You can change the background killing in development settings. To be less aggressive.
6. Won't happen. Have to find a workaround.
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Fluid Gestures is indeed better than OnePlus Gestures...
1. A Car supercharger wont work with Android Auto, I can't imagine this is intentional as with any generic wall charger and cable I get about 2 amp charge rates.
Thanks a bunch for the Fluid Gestures. I always swiped to the home screen.
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I was finally able to get ADB working and grant Fluid Gesture the capability to remove the navigation bar, however what I notice is that any time my keyboard is on screen (Swiftkey) the navigation buttons show up at the bottom again.
Are you guys seeing this too?
EDIT: I found the option to disable this in Fluid Gestures!
Set the system navigation to gestures. Fluid over rides it. No more navbar and perfect working gestures
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Set the system navigation to gestures. Fluid over rides it. No more navbar and perfect working gestures
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Unfortunately that doesn't work. The Huawei gestures still run and work. If I swipe in from the right edge up high above the Fluid Gestures region the Huawei gesture does kick off unfortunately.
But I am able to disable the Huawei gestures completely and this is now working good. Especially since with Fluid I can disable only the left gesture, which make sliding out the Google Play drawer from the left work great now without closing the app.
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I was finally able to get ADB working and grant Fluid Gesture the capability to remove the navigation bar, however what I notice is that any time my keyboard is on screen (Swiftkey) the navigation buttons show up at the bottom again.
Are you guys seeing this too?
EDIT: I found the option to disable this in Fluid Gestures!
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While you're on your PC using adb I would also disable the Huawei launcher and any other apps you don't use. I got rid of about 60 apps that I don't use, most of them were Huawei ones like email, calendar, dialer, contacts etc.
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While you're on your PC using adb I would also disable the Huawei launcher and any other apps you don't use. I got rid of about 60 apps that I don't use, most of them were Huawei ones like email, calendar, dialer, contacts etc.
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I'd love to do that, but i'm afraid of breaking something I can't back out of....
When you say Disable do you mean delete?
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I'd love to do that, but i'm afraid of breaking something I can't back out of....
When you say Disable do you mean delete?
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It disables the apps. Just remove the launcher and the small Huawei things like email or whatever you don't use. You can leave everything else to be safe.
I'd like to see some camera updates.
The portrait mode for both the front and rear cameras are subpar. They don't perform as well as the GCam found on the 6T, let alone the actual GCam on Pixel phones.
I'm also experiencing Bluetooth issues with my headphones. They'll connect but audio will be significantly chopped up and delayed. I have to disconnect them and reconnect sometimes, and last time I had to unpair them.
Also would like to see better use of screen real estate. It looks bad having 5 quick setting tiles per row on such a big phone. 6 or even 7 would look great.
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Unfortunately that doesn't work. The Huawei gestures still run and work. If I swipe in from the right edge up high above the Fluid Gestures region the Huawei gesture does kick off unfortunately.
But I am able to disable the Huawei gestures completely and this is now working good. Especially since with Fluid I can disable only the left gesture, which make sliding out the Google Play drawer from the left work great now without closing the app.
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How did you remove the Gestures? Is there a specific app to remove via ADB?
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How did you remove the Gestures? Is there a specific app to remove via ADB?
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They are off by default, It's under System Navigation.
Just leave Three-key navigation on and the system won't do gestures, then in fluid you do the ADB permissions to enable it to hide the Huawei bar.
UPDATE
So after using the phone for a while now, I'd like to update my original list of things that need addressing....
1. The constant crashing with the camera appears to have been fixed with a factory reset, so that is now fixed!
2. With Fluid Gestures it seems we have a decent work around for gesture controls with 3rd party launchers.
3. Less aggressive background task killing. I still have things once in a while that don't notify me on time with messages. When I open the app then the notifications come right in, this tells me the app is getting killed in the background. (Happens most frequently with the messaging app "Line")
4. I'd still really like some sort of notification icon on the screen with the always on screen, but I guess that's not a huge deal.
5. Really the only major thing is the USB charging at super slow speeds from my laptop or in the car. 200ma is just way too slow and is not like any other phone charging from the same sources.
omniphil said:
Overall this phone has been way above expectations. There are a few quirks that hopefully will get addressed in a future update and hopefully Huawei is watching...
2. Camera crashing. I have to reboot the phone almost every day because I go to fire up the camera app and it cannot connect to the camera. I am not a heavy camera users either, but I do use video chatting about an hour a day. Basically all the cameras front and back just go offline after some use.
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Do you have the width setting in developer options on something other than the default? I noticed the camera crashed a lot when I had it set to 600 dp. Now I left it back to the default of 423 dp (text and screen at smallest settings). Icons and screen settings are still too big for me but everything is working fine.
Praying for root soon.
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Do you have the width setting in developer options on something other than the default? I noticed the camera crashed a lot when I had it set to 600 dp. Now I left it back to the default of 423 dp (text and screen at smallest settings). Icons and screen settings are still too big for me but everything is working fine.
Praying for root soon.
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I didn't change anything in developer settings, I just move the 2 sliders in the display setting all the way to the smallest size.
But Factory Reset did fixed the camera crashing.....

Android 10 [Q] Features Report/Feedback

So I know there are other android 10 threads out there but I felt like y'all should get a list of whats new in front of your eyes instead of looking around:
**Improved night camera quality - Yes I have felt and improvement it is slight however, but it did get somewhat better.
**Google's new navigation gestures (I felt like I should write this because last updates, Sony phones did not get the nav gestures) however the new gestures seem just a tiny bit laggy -rarely though- and when in landscape mode, the slide down bar drops not in a symmetric way but rather drops right sided which makes things look out of place
**New CinemaPro app features - the app now has the levels of both phone microphones like on the v50 and also has aspect ratio check lines (if you want to shoot a video on cinema pro it only shoots 21/9 but you can have check lines to see whats being viewed in any other aspect ratio you choose and you also have a meter inside the camera to show you if youre in the frame or not)
**Dark mode - works on most apps, but I can't seem to activate it on my phone app, any suggestions?
**UI click sounds changed - yup! I love the new ones they sound more like Android rather than Sony and I do love Android!
**FINGERPRINT!!!! - Yes!! finally fingerprint scanner is way more responsive now!! before it was sooo strict about the cleanness and the angle, I registered 3 fingers and it only could recognize one of them because of the angle it provides, but now every finger on any angle with less cleanness is verry responsive! (could still be worked on, but im so happy with it at this moment)
**Sadly no more face unlock, even though I never used it but it worked surprisingly fast when I had the option available, but now it doesnt exist, good thing they improved the fingerprint scanner XD
**Slightly improved battery life - I only noticed it when I tested it, but if youre not a detailed tester you wont be able to recognize throughout the day, maybe if youre a slight user, yes you will notice the phone lasting 2/3 hours longer (overall usage and not screen on time) because I can tell they worked greatly on improving the idle drain.
**Speaker loudness - I think the phone got louder? I am not sure but defiantly notice something that didnt exist, not necessarily higher quality but I do notice something increasing in volume I cant tell if its volume or distortion lol but when I go to max volume there is something that makes you think, a little lower than max sounded like max on previous android but I cant tell if max here is actually louder or just more noisy especially with dolby atmos
**Some people reported signal drops? or bad signal? I havent noticed a difference here so thats good news
**Performance - the phone was fast enough to almost be the king of speed and smoothness so yah even if its better on android 10 I cant even feel the difference but it is VERY smooth even on a new android which means its pretty sick!
**Recent apps button (in old school 3 button nav bar) doesnt seem to do anything if you have custom launcher, but works on default sony launcher.
UPDATE!!
**one handed mode, which I use alot when im in bed, cant seem to be activated in the new navigation gestures, because you have to double tap home button but u dont have it in new gestures, so heres what i did:
Enabled side sense, i know it doesn't work properly, but now you have an option of controlling how to access it, You can actually enable the inside the screen tap rather than from the side (if you have a case on, this will really help you) , adjust sensitivity, position, transparency of the slide activators, and change the gestures of how it works, now i changed the double tap side sense from opening the side sense menu, to activate one handed mode, and now side sense works smoothly with gestures and i can activate one handed mode in new android nav gestures, youre welcome
Thx u for this thread
UI seems a lot smoother. I'm liking the android 10 gestures which adds to the "smoothness".
Can't really say about photo quality, haven't been using the camera much. I can definitely notice a better battery life compared to before.
Basically no issues just yet! Aside from me getting used to the new gestures (+ side sense)
Im using the google dialer app in play store. It has a way better ui, better icons and dark mode compatible. Set it as default and it's all good. I don't understand why sony have decided to use the "stock" google messenger app but not dialer... the dialer seems customized in some way idk
There is a bug that I noticed: when going back home using the gesture, if the app icon is on the dock, the icons a bit laggy and will flash for once. don't really know how to describe it
Someone can make a full review of android 10 and post it on youtube ?
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Im using the google dialer app in play store. It has a way better ui, better icons and dark mode compatible. Set it as default and it's all good. I don't understand why sony have decided to use the "stock" google messenger app but not dialer... the dialer seems customized in some way idk
There is a bug that I noticed: when going back home using the gesture, if the app icon is on the dock, the icons a bit laggy and will flash for once. don't really know how to describe it
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Yah you just reminded me to add that bug, also if you on landscape mode the slide down bar is off place slides from the right rather than the middle of the screen
Pandemic said:
Someone can make a full review of android 10 and post it on youtube ?
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I will try to do so soon, when I have free time from work
Agree with you.
- about the signal, i notice less signals bar (1-2 signal bars most of the time), but no connection drop (yet)
- wifi Mac address new option, set by default at "random Mac address"
Here's a preview of the swipe up animation bug?
https://youtu.be/ZM0Exs9F4yQ
Does anyone else have a weird audio bug where when you pause music or a video the sound spikes up for a second before it pauses. I've only tested it on the native music app and YouTube. I don't use any music streaming service such as Spotify or Pandora. I think I've concluded that this is a software bug since I when I flashed back to the previous firmware and didn't have the same problem. Maybe my device is just strange. Any opinion?
Arsyian said:
Does anyone else have a weird audio bug where when you pause music or a video the sound spikes up for a second before it pauses. I've only tested it on the native music app and YouTube. I don't use any music streaming service such as Spotify or Pandora. I think I've concluded that this is a software bug since I when I flashed back to the previous firmware and didn't have the same problem. Maybe my device is just strange. Any opinion?
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Yes,I have the same issue, but as I remember this issue also existing on Pie.
t238z said:
Yes,I have the same issue, but as I remember this issue also existing on Pie.
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That's strange cause I never had the problem till updating to Android 10.
I think i have a bug i have notification from album that i cant remove it. Even though i have restar my phone
It always check the update
blegs said:
I think i have a bug i have notification from album that i cant remove it. Even though i have restar my phone
It always check the update
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this happens with me with BG player.. I simply turned off its notifications
Sugarcube8th said:
There is a bug that I noticed: when going back home using the gesture, if the app icon is on the dock, the icons a bit laggy and will flash for once. don't really know how to describe it
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Precisely, IDK if that happens with pixel or one plus devices, but I know that it happens with Xperia 1. When you go back to the app, let's just say it's inside a folder, app shows in the dock then the folder pops back. Then if you open an app let's just say dialer then you switch to camera with recent menu and you go back to home screen it shows dialer app on where the camera icon then you get the camera icon back in the dock. Am I right?
[Bug report] Recent key not working in Android 10.
Screenshot as below: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUlHZ0weCfs&feature=youtu.be
When you press Recent button, there is just nothing.
Remember people more updates will vome of android 10, this is the 1st release so except some tiny bugs. Sony/google will fix that
just added some more updates about bugs and updates in main post check it out
kevinkoo said:
[Bug report] Recent key not working in Android 10.
Screenshot as below: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUlHZ0weCfs&feature=youtu.be
When you press Recent button, there is just nothing.
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whats that launcher?
Just got mine an hour ago. Hoping that I don't experience those bugs.

Anybody else having issues with the new Android 11 update?

UI transitions, pulling down the notifications or pulling up the app drawer seems laggy/slow frame rate.
Battery drain: the battery used to last at the very least 48h. Now I'm recharging it every 24/28h
Factory reset didn't solve anything for me.
laggy here too. Good info, now I know Factory reset it's useless.
Other issue I have:
some app don't use anymore or not properly border / edge.
I think downgrade to Android 10.
Haven't got it yet, in the US.
Same lagging in Android 11 on Edge.
I also have Edge+, on Edge+ no change.
Went back to Android 10...
mnoguti said:
UI transitions, pulling down the notifications or pulling up the app drawer seems laggy/slow frame rate.
Battery drain: the battery used to last at the very least 48h. Now I'm recharging it every 24/28h
Factory reset didn't solve anything for me.
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lanyao1920 said:
Same lagging in Android 11 on Edge.
I also have Edge+, on Edge+ no change.
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I found a solution, I'll post it later. Battery is ok for me.
This works for me:
Go to Developer options and disable "Enable blurs". That option provides a blur on the screen, for example, behind the notification panel when we slide it.
You need to perform a reboot. After rebooting, all animations and transitions work fine. Let me know if it is useful.
Related with this: When "Enable blur" is enabled and you are broadcasting screen, you will notice a problem in vertical mode. Try swiping the notification bar... can you see how the resolution expands on the TV? I'm sure that's related to the lag.
Raph4 said:
laggy here too. Good info, now I know Factory reset it's useless.
Other issue I have:
some app don't use anymore or not properly border / edge.
I think downgrade to Android 10.
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Yes, I noticed that. I don't think it's an issue... it's a motorola decision.
cruban said:
Yes, I noticed that. I don't think it's an issue... it's a motorola decision.
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It can be a motorola decision have border screens and dont be used properly, some apps dont use the edges now and i see my backscreen wallpepare in the sides when im using spotify. Is horrible and it shouldnt be like that!
I have the same problems as you guys and also now i have to wait half of a second to start recording an audio on whatsapp or instagram, and before the update it was perfect.... Does someone know how to do a downgrade?
I updated my Moto Edge 5g 6days ago, and changed the Blur option as advised by Cruban and my phone is working fine.
The battery seems the same as it was before and i don't have any issues with the non edge apps and the wallpaper.
For me too at first!
After disable turn off "Enable blur" and restart the phone , everything's work fine
I have receive new update today
RPD31.Q4U-39-26-14
fixed
- Laggy performance on the home screen
- Edge Display (or lack thereof for most apps on Android 11).
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