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The site Popular Electronics (I have no personal connection of any kind) advertises for sale a 850 MHz Touch pro
http://www.popularelect.com/product...id=CNPmmfGZhJUCFQRJFQod5VhbrQ&tab=2&osCsid=10
and it specifies that it has an 850 MHz capability:
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz (Band frequency and data speed are operator dependent)
Is this for real? All sites I have checked so far specify that the 850MHz version is not available as yet.
If the information of this site is for real, would it work for AT&T?
what a thousand dollar phone
these chinese pricks are getting ridiculous !!!(HTC)
In relation to my question: Is the 850 MHz part for real?
The actual store, btw, is in Chicago.
Correct if I'm wrong, but AFAIK all Pros are quad band GSM.
Yes, all of them have 850mhz available. And it's not Chinese, smart guy.
michalopoulosgk said:
it specifies that it has an 850 MHz capability:
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz (Band frequency and data speed are operator dependent)
Is this for real? All sites I have checked so far specify that the 850MHz version is not available as yet.
If the information of this site is for real, would it work for AT&T?
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It is for real. Check out the specifications on the main htc website it says exactly the same thing. The Europe/Asia version will work on Verizon, but you won't be able to get WCDMA speeds. The US version has 850/1900 WCDMA, whereas the Europe/Asia version as mentioned on the HTC site has 900/2100. Would be nice if they could make one with all 4 WCDMA's
I have definitely seen some sites that claim the Touch Pro is only Tri-Band, but the HTC site would be the one to go by seeing as they made it an all
WCDMA (3G) is where it differs. All Touch Pro's do NOT have 850mhz WCDMA. You can get service everywhere, but only 3G in areas with 900/2100mhz 3G... AT&T uses 850/1900 for 3G.
Black93300ZX said:
WCDMA (3G) is where it differs. All Touch Pro's do NOT have 850mhz WCDMA. You can get service everywhere, but only 3G in areas with 900/2100mhz 3G... AT&T uses 850/1900 for 3G.
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lol I just saw your last post in the release date thread and edited my response, but I was too slow
Many thanks to all, this was very helpful.
Black93300ZX said:
Yes, all of them have 850mhz available. And it's not Chinese, smart guy.
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No they do not all have it activated, smart guy ....look here at the official Dutch HTC site specs:
http://www.htc.com/nl/product.aspx?id=54146
No 850mhz band... not even for gsm (voice) function. Its a triband not quadband....
And after browsing this forum for weeks now its still not clear to me if the 850mhz band can be activated with just a rom/radio update..... a lot of different opinions in here....
Somebody knows the 'truth'?
t-mobile usa is rolling out with 3g for bands 1700 to 2100
merten3000 said:
No they do not all have it activated, smart guy ....look here at the official Dutch HTC site specs:
http://www.htc.com/nl/product.aspx?id=54146
No 850mhz band... not even for gsm (voice) function. Its a triband not quadband....
And after browsing this forum for weeks now its still not clear to me if the 850mhz band can be activated with just a rom/radio update..... a lot of different opinions in here....
Somebody knows the 'truth'?
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First of all, it is a ROM flash, second, their specs page for english used to say triband too but they changed it to quad band...
I have a friend who works for ATT and just tested the new HTC Touch Pro (Raphael) and said that ATT is planning on releasing them in November, code named "ATT Fusion."
Of course, they claim it's real...
michalopoulosgk said:
The site Popular Electronics (I have no personal connection of any kind) advertises for sale a 850 MHz Touch pro...
If the information of this site is for real, would it work for AT&T?
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These guys say (of course) they got a few in stock and they sold quickly. These are actually the EUROPE/ASIA version but the rep claims they are Quadband and that 3G works on both AT&T and T-Mobile (US). They are getting more in next week.
http://www.popularelect.com/product_info.php?cPath=21_58&products_id=1026
Hmmmm....who to believe?????
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DeniaL said:
I have a friend who works for ATT and just tested the new HTC Touch Pro (Raphael) and said that ATT is planning on releasing them in November, code named "ATT Fusion."
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That's interesting. Did he get to take any pictures by any slight chance?
The more I read the more I get confused.....are the phones (if as advertised) in the site mentioned on post 14 likely to be working with ATT 3G?
UMTS/HSDPA for 850/900/1900/2100 on Touch Pro
I also keep on hearing this regarding bands on the Touch Pro. Can the UMTS/HSDPA band be activated for 850/900/1900/2100 by just flashing a custom ROM or changing the Radio Version? Please someone answer this....
This is something i want to know as well. I've been doing quite a bit of searching with no answer as of yet.
I live 40 minutes from Chicago and have asked this company about AT&T, Quad Band, and actual prodoct availability.
If they have them in stock, I will drive to their store, insert my AT&T SIM card and see if it will actually work.
But first, let's see if they respond to my questions.
Good deal...
someara said:
I live 40 minutes from Chicago and have asked this company about AT&T, Quad Band, and actual prodoct availability.
If they have them in stock, I will drive to their store, insert my AT&T SIM card and see if it will actually work.
But first, let's see if they respond to my questions.
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Yea...I'm close to these guys too. Actually there are about 5 electronics storefront stores all next door to each other over there on W. Devon in Chicago. I bought my last 4 unlocked GSM phones from that area. Oddly enough, Popular Electronics have NEVER been the first to have any of the phones I wanted. For the past 2 years their usual answer has been "It will be here MONDAY." But "MONDAY" takes months to come!
The guys next door at Overseas Electronics (http://www.welectronics.com/) have always gotten the phones FIRST in that area--including the TyTN II. Even the other store next door to them (http://bargainoffers.com/catalog/default.php) get the hottest GSM phones before Pop Elect. This time though, Overseas say about 3-4 weeks out for the Touch Pro...so I'm really interested to know if Pop Elect actually gets them FOR REAL "by MONDAY" this time.
Please keep us informed. Thanks!!
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I saw this phone on the database site. I hope this is the right place to ask this question. I was wondering if this phone could be used on AT&T network? I know the phone isn't out yet, but I wanted to know. Because I love the style of the phone. I have the 2 before it.
Thank you for any help.
The European HTC 7 Pro will work on AT&T's Edge Network, but not the 3G. European 3G is in the 900 and 2100 MHz bands, AT&T 3G is the 850 and 1900 MHz bands. I would imagine you'd get 3G service on an European 7 Pro with T-Mobile, but not AT&T. If you're willing to give up the 3G go for it, it looks like a great phone, and a perfect successor to the "Tilt" line (AHEM AT&T!!!).
I just did a search, and turned up these results, for those that might be interested:
http://www.htc.com/uk/smartphones/htc-7-pro/#specs It looks like it will work on AT&T...
I'm getting some conflicting information and I know that I can get an accurate accounting right here...
I'm told that the P-6200 model will operate on ATT network but EDGE only speed and that I need the P-6200L model to get full 3G speeds.
Is this correct?
I'm on the same boat. Cannot decide which one to get.
I was told you can flash modem from p6200l to p6200 to enable 850mhz 3g. But I'm not so sure. Has anyone tried this?
Here is the link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1634008
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I replied to you on the other thread:
FMAranda said:
I think it's the band frequency, I got this from Samsung's website:
P6200:
3G 900 / 1,900 / 2,100 MHz
P6200L:
3G 850 / 1.900 / 2.100 MHz
Here you can find more info:
P6200 http://www.samsung.com/my/consumer/mobile-devices/tablet/tablet/GT-P6200UWAXME-spec
P6200L http://www.samsung.com/latin_en/consumer/mobile-devices/tablets/galaxy-tab/GT-P6200UWLTPA-spec
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So, the correct answer for the ATT network is the 6200L. Can you confirm?
scottb4u said:
So, the correct answer for the ATT network is the 6200L. Can you confirm?
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Yes, the P6200L works with AT&T 3G and actually is the model sold on Amazon. I was looking on the AT&T Galaxy Tab 8.9 specs and it works with UMTS Triband,850/1900/2100MHz the same as P6200L.
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-tab/SGH-I957ZKAATT-specs
Not even one merchant on Amazon has the 6200L. Each model is the straight up 6200! Show me where on Amazon I can get it!
and BTW. THIS is NOT a 6200L because I've already emailed the seller and asked. It is a mistake: amazon.com/Samsung-GT-P6200-P6200L-GALAXY-Tab/dp/B007I5E3IK Put a www in front of amazon for the link
Look at this comment from a guy who bought the tablet:
" I bought this tablet because I thought it was model GT-P6200 as that is what the title says. In reality, it was GT-P6200L which has a few important differences. The first is that it did NOT use 3G on the T-Mobile network. Maybe it does on other networks. Perhaps "Unlocked World Tablet PC" was the code-phrase that should have warned me. "
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-GT-P6200-7-0-dual-core-Honeycomb/dp/B00746GVHY/ref=pd_cp_cps_0
I'll call them. And I don't care about T-Mobile, just ATT. But now I wonder: do they make a quad-band variant? One that does 850 & 900?
Yes, you should call because on that link you can see that the specs of 3G Bands are 850 / 1900 / 2100.
So, did you get the information if it is the P6200L?
I called T-Mobile, today. I have the 6200L. T-Mobile started offering unlimited 3G/4G for $20 a month, so I signed up. Turns out that I can only use Edge with this model when using T-Mobile. This is what the T-Mobile tech rep told me, anyway.
I read the info above this post, so I want to confirm. Does GT-P6200L work with 3G/4G using T-Mobile, or not? If so, I need to make some config change. If not, I have to find a new model of tablet to use. I am not going to go back into the dark ages and settle with Edge. Why on Earth would T-Mobile do this, anyway?
No, T-Mobile uses 1.700MHz for 3G right now, but it should work on the new 1.900MHz frequency that T-Mobile is deploying, that's because they want the iPhone to be compatible with their 3G. For now only some regions are covered by the 1.900MHz 3G, here you can read more: http://www.gsmarena.com/tmobile_usa_running_1900mhz_3g_in_some_areas_iphones_invited-news-3537.php
4G will never work since it's the LTE technology and our tablet doesn't support it.
I want to figure this out once and for all.
What services does this phone support on the 850 MHz band?
The big question is whether UMTS/HSPA works. NYC area has amazing 850 band coverage on AT&T.
If I were to put a prepaid AT&T SIM in my phone, set my phone to only operate on the 850 MHz band, and set the proper APNs (necessary for 3G?); would I be able to get data beyond EDGE?
Only one way to find out...
There's no mystery to it if you read through the [GUIDE] Set up Verizon Galaxy S3 as World GSM Phone (confirmed working) thread and the [BOUNTY] ($205 so far) Enable HSPA+ on 1900 MHz / 1700MHz for VZW Galaxy S3 i535 threads completely....
With the radio software verizon has on the phone, the galaxy s3 is quad band GSM (850/900/1800/1900) and single band WCDMA (2100).
We don't know if it has the hardware for WCDMA 850/900/1900 and until now, nobody has successfully flashed a different radio due to the bootloader lock. Keep an eye on the "enable WCDMA 1700/1900" thread for updates.
And just to answer another question that you might have, when my S3 was rooted and set up to work in Germany, I tried both T-Mobile and AT&T sim cards here in town. The problem with the S3 is that even if you try to select a different WCDMA band in the field test menu, the radio firmware will not allow you to change it from 2100. So in an area with T-Mobile PCS (1900) and AT&T PCS/CELLULAR (1900/850) WCDMA, each test I tried only ran on EDGE.
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Wow... That really sucks.
So, there's literally no way to get 3G outside of Verizon aside from MetroPCS EVDO?
LLStarks said:
Wow... That really sucks.
So, there's literally no way to get 3G outside of Verizon aside from MetroPCS EVDO?
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The first step is to experiment with different radio files, as one user in the 1700/1900 thread wants to do, but we need to get the secure-boot/bootloader unlocked so those files can be written.
Phones like the Rezound had the hardware for Quad-band WCDMA (3g), but took a radio file flash to make it work. The reason there is a bounty is because we -think- the Verizon S3 has the hardware, it will just take some work to get the software on the phone to talk to that hardware.
I know. I've been following the thread.
Was a little unsure of the details regarding frequencies.
As far as I understand, they're at a dead end. They need JTAG/UART to continue without worrying about bricks.
LLStarks said:
I know. I've been following the thread.
Was a little unsure of the details regarding frequencies.
As far as I understand, they're at a dead end. They need JTAG/UART to continue without worrying about bricks.
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Yeah, and sadly, I lack the skills and the bounty probably isn't enough to attract a dev with JTAG and a phone to fiddle with to solve our issue
Verizon cdma is ran by nortel dual urban base stations the frequencies are 810-910 and 1840-2000mhz. The LTE is 690-760mhz 1x means that your on 850. 3g means your on 1900 or 850 depending on how far away from the site you are, and 4g means your on LTE. The LTE base station is ericsson but speeds will vary depending on whether or not the site is on fiber or T1 transport. Normally they keep the pre pay customers on the nortel dual urban... Oh by the way we are starting to decommission the lucent cdma on metro pcs sites and convert them to t-mobile GSM but luckily metro uses ericsson for LTE too so there's hope.
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Hello everyone,
New to this forum and I wish I had found it sooner, great information!
I'm hoping someone here will be able to definitively answer a question I've been pondering for several months now: Is the Note Pro 12.2, US Verizon LTE model capable of making voice calls? I've seen "yes" and "no" everywhere, but I have not seen a specific reason why either way. It seems like it should be able to do this, but I'm no expert. If it can't, is it just a software limitation? Or is it missing some piece of hardware/radio, etc. needed for calling capability? I have seen a similar topic regarding the older note 10.1 tablet from 2012 and multiple sources claimed it was possible, so I would hope the same would be true for this one.
If it is at least possible through rooting, I am completely open to that as well. Thanks in advance for your guidance!
Anyone? Help me XDA Devs, you're my only hope!
additionally I've found that the Note 12.2 supports the following frequencies:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600
Again I'm not an expert, but as best I can tell Verizon uses the 800 MHz band for voice...so it at least looks like it is technically possible from a hardware perspective unless I'm missing something. Again, thanks for any help
E2Xtreme said:
Anyone? Help me XDA Devs, you're my only hope!
additionally I've found that the Note 12.2 supports the following frequencies:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600
Again I'm not an expert, but as best I can tell Verizon uses the 800 MHz band for voice...so it at least looks like it is technically possible from a hardware perspective unless I'm missing something. Again, thanks for any help
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Hi E2Xtreme,
You might want to take your tablet into a Verizon store and have them test it. I have an international Note Pro 12.2 LTE purchased from Asia, but I reside in Canada and I've not had any issues making voice calls on the Rogers network. As long as your device supports the radio frequency for the carrier, you should be fine, and yours being a Verizon-branded devices should be supported on their networks. The capability for performing phone calls is definitely there though. For my tablet, phone calls can be facilitated using the onboard speakers and microphone, plugged in earphones, or a bluetooth headset.
Hope that helps you, but to be sure, you're better off taking your tablet to a carrier's store for testing, if they have one.
From what I understand, Verizon blocked the ability to make Voice Calls unless you use Google Voice.
shardsx - Thanks for the info, good to hear from someone who actually got it working!
tdetroit - I've read that too. I guess since they only offer data plans with tablets? In any case it's frustrating since the device is capable. I was also under the impression that locking the device in such a way was not allowed by the FCC. In any case, if they removed it I have to believe there is someway to get it back...
I took the plunge and ordered one. Really interested to get this on the bench and see if I can make it work. I'll report back with updates!
E2Xtreme said:
Hello everyone,
New to this forum and I wish I had found it sooner, great information!
I'm hoping someone here will be able to definitively answer a question I've been pondering for several months now: Is the Note Pro 12.2, US Verizon LTE model capable of making voice calls? I've seen "yes" and "no" everywhere, but I have not seen a specific reason why either way. It seems like it should be able to do this, but I'm no expert. If it can't, is it just a software limitation? Or is it missing some piece of hardware/radio, etc. needed for calling capability? I have seen a similar topic regarding the older note 10.1 tablet from 2012 and multiple sources claimed it was possible, so I would hope the same would be true for this one.
If it is at least possible through rooting, I am completely open to that as well. Thanks in advance for your guidance!
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Yes, it is capable. No, Verizon doesn't support VoLTE yet though they've announced plans. http://www.verizonwireless.com/news...on-wireless-volte-national-rollout-plans.html
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tdetroit said:
From what I understand, Verizon blocked the ability to make Voice Calls unless you use Google Voice.
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They haven't blocked any calling features. They do not yet support VoLTE as a network. The S5 and Note 3 are ready also, but they have the additional modems needed to use the legacy voice network and the Note Pro either does not, or it is not fully enabled (not the same as blocking if a custom kernel could make it available and you knew how to set it up).