[Q] Towelroot, KingRoot, other Temp Root and KNOX - General Questions and Answers

Hi,
I am really tempted to root my work phone and I am totally digging these Temporary Root methods like TowelRoot and KingRoot where the root is lost upon reboot. I haven't been able to find a clear answer and I figured i'd ask here.
Can someone tell me if these methods trips the KNOX warranty counter? I have a Note 4 and like I said, it's a work phone and I wouldn't want any issues down the road if I left the company or whatever.
I would be open to hearing if there are permanent root methods that don't trip KNOX as well for the Note 4.
Thx in advance.

I found this older thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2499546&page=2
Where they are saying it doesn't trip knox, but I'm not sure about now in 2015.

rizz2pro said:
I found this older thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2499546&page=2
Where they are saying it doesn't trip knox, but I'm not sure about now in 2015.
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That thread is for Note 3.
By the way, Latest Kingroot doesn't trip the Knox.
Anyway, you could ask it in the Note 4 Forum here.

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Kingo Android Root [KNOX 0x0 Root] - The easy way!

Hi,
I just got my Note 3 and was annoyed by the hole knox issue so i started to read back & forward after a few hours i found this program called kingo which i liked cause i only had to install it and start the program and the rest was done for me by the program.
Here are the easy steps to rooting.
1. Install the Note 3 drivers on the PC "all i did was plug-in the phone and it was installed for me".
2. Install Kingo (LINKS REMOVED)
3. Open the program and follow the simple instructions on you monitor.
When it's done you are rooted and your knox will still be 0x0.
After this i used Odin to flash the TWRP 2.6.3.7 and the knox was still 0x0.
I then shut off the phone to reboot into TWRP and did a backup of the stock rom rooted. Once done backing up the rom i rebooted into download mode and noticed that it knox was changed to 0x1.
So if you want root on stock rom then this is the easiest solution but you wont get custom recovery nor custom roms without tripping the knox counter for now.
Great does it work with latest stock firmware mj7
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Doesn't work with MJ7, as posted on their Facebook page.
I did this with MJ2
Zionator said:
I did this with MJ2
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If you did not absolutely need a custom recovery/kernel you should have gone with URDLV and you could have kept knox 0x0
xclub_101 said:
If you did not absolutely need a custom recovery/kernel you should have gone with URDLV and you could have kept knox 0x0
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I have no idea what you are talking about.
Zionator said:
Hi,
I just got my Note 3 and was annoyed by the hole knox issue so i started to read back & forward after a few hours i found this program called kingo which i liked cause i only had to install it and start the program and the rest was done for me by the program.
Here are the easy steps to rooting.
1. Install the Note 3 drivers on the PC "all i did was plug-in the phone and it was installed for me".
2. Install Kingo from here.
3. Open the program and follow the simple instructions on you monitor.
When it's done you are rooted and your knox will still be 0x0.
After this i used Odin to flash the TWRP 2.6.3.7 and the knox was still 0x0.
I then shut off the phone to reboot into TWRP and did a backup of the stock rom rooted. Once done backing up the rom i rebooted into download mode and noticed that it knox was changed to 0x1.
So if you want root on stock rom then this is the easiest solution but you wont get custom recovery nor custom roms without tripping the knox counter for now.
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As far as I know Kingo is banned on XDA forums until further notice, unless they finally got approved? Not to get you paranoid or anything, but suspicious communications with a chinese server were part of the rooting method you just used.
blumsen said:
As far as I know Kingo is banned on XDA forums until further notice, unless they finally got approved? Not to get you paranoid or anything, but suspicious communications with a chinese server were part of the rooting method you just used.
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Why is it suspicious ? I mean it's most likely downloading what's needed for rooting and bypassing the knox system.
If it was banned then there should be a post so others know about it.
I am using Zonealarm firewall and i wasn't made aware of any suspicious behaviour.
Zionator said:
Why is it suspicious ? I mean it's most likely downloading what's needed for rooting and bypassing the knox system.
If it was banned then there should be a post so others know about it.
I am using Zonealarm firewall and i wasn't made aware of any suspicious behaviour.
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It was suspected of sending your IMEI #. Don't know the details.....
Zionator said:
Why is it suspicious ? I mean it's most likely downloading what's needed for rooting and bypassing the knox system.
If it was banned then there should be a post so others know about it.
I am using Zonealarm firewall and i wasn't made aware of any suspicious behaviour.
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1. It is suspicious because nobody knows who Kingo are. It is suspicious because the process is not transparent and it was not known what kind of information is collected from your device (or why) and what information is received (and possibly installed on your PC/ device). The exploit that they use for rooting is also kept secret. The server's IP they use is chinese. Some of the information they collect is arguably not necessary (for example your device's IMEI). The communication with Kingo is over a facebook page. Hmm.. can't think of more suspicious things right now, but that is plenty I think
2. "It is most likely just.." yes that is true. and for 99% of users that is good enough. Myself, I will lose my job if my clients/ employers find such a huge security hole which I am aware of and ignore. But then again they also expect me to never get near the WWW with my work phone or computer, I am not allowed to have a wifi module in my work laptop! You can see why a "probably just a harmless connection to China" is just not good enough in some situations.
3. If you do a search on XDA for Kingo, you will see that all threads were closed by admins.
4. Time for you to get a new firewall, or tinker with the settings!
Zionator said:
I have no idea what you are talking about.
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With firmware before MJ3 there is a separate method called Universal Root De La Vega (URDLV) which is a lot more transparent and which (as long as you keep updating with Mobile Odin Pro and you do not change stock kernel and stock recovery) is giving you full root while keeping your Knox 0x0 (if you had it 0x0 before URDLV).
xclub_101 said:
With firmware before MJ3 there is a separate method called Universal Root De La Vega (URDLV) which is a lot more transparent and which (as long as you keep updating with Mobile Odin Pro and you do not change stock kernel and stock recovery) is giving you full root while keeping your Knox 0x0 (if you had it 0x0 before URDLV).
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Oh ok but i have already flashed a custom recovery and rom. To hell with the warranty. I have never liked any stock roms and i like my freedom so my knox will most likely look like 0x2 now.
Kingo : Well if it's that bad then i am sure the moderators will close this and had i known this was the issue then i wouldn't have made this thread. However i would still have used this method if i knew this before as i never stay on stock rom and after finding out about the stupid chip that cant be recoded i didn't wanna wait for someone to come with a solution in one years time so i flashed the rom and recovery and now enjoying the phone
So if the Kingo really is that bad it has been wiped from my phone when i flashed a new rom.
Does not belong in Original Development, you did not create Kingo.
Moved to General
Use at your own risk. Rooting process has been known to collect and transmit IMEI and Serial numbers to China
FNSM
Before I even read the posts and start asking questions, I would like to know one thing. That is what does that United Arab Emirates mean in the pic below, its my screen after entering "About"
and can I root my device without any sort of issues?
iTTi said:
Before I even read the posts and start asking questions, I would like to know one thing. That is what does that United Arab Emirates mean in the pic below, its my screen after entering "About"
and can I root my device without any sort of issues?
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http://www.tra.gov.ae/mynumber.php
Regardless of TRA ID - at this point you can not root MJ7 and keep knox 0x0.
kennyglass123 said:
Does not belong in Original Development, you did not create Kingo.
Moved to General
Use at your own risk. Rooting process has been known to collect and transmit IMEI and Serial numbers to China
FNSM
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Just FYI - but Kingo stopped collecting the IMEI numbers a few versions ago.
mvansomeren said:
Just FYI - but Kingo stopped collecting the IMEI numbers a few versions ago.
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That is great news! Our security expert has not been available to confirm this and Kingo has not sent us any correspondence to notify us of that. Has anyone confirmed this by recording data traffic while rooting?
Ok i have been reading around the net and all the reported security issues comes back to XDA.
wmshua.com is the site the connection is sent out to but is it possible that the app connects to their servers only in order to download the appropriate phone/device drivers.
On there web site under F.A.Q's
Q. Why don't you publish your source code?
A1. We kind of hope, in the future, Kingo Android Root could generate revenue to support our staff (STILL FREE FOR USERS). We all know that, in the long run, interest alone cannot make a living. To develop better software, we need to be financially motivated aside from being driven by passion.
A2. We manage to obtain root privilege of Android by exploiting certain undisclosed vulnerabilities, which we believe would be patched in no time once made public. And that would dysfunction this software that we've worked so hard for.
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However it pushes Chainfires SuperSU to the device's and apparently they didn't ask him for his permission to use his work.
All in all i don't think isn't a matter of security issue anymore but more likely a matter of hard fellings that they stole Chainfires SuperSU to use in there app without asking him.
Correct me if i am wrong ?
xclub_101 said:
http://www.tra.gov.ae/mynumber.php
Regardless of TRA ID - at this point you can not root MJ7 and keep knox 0x0.
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Knox 0x0 is the warranty thingy right? I have no warranty. So whats next?
xclub_101 said:
http://www.tra.gov.ae/mynumber.php
Regardless of TRA ID - at this point you can not root MJ7 and keep knox 0x0.
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Is it not possible to root MJ7 using knigo! or rooting MJ7 using kingo will trigger knox ?

[Q] Samsung S5 rooting and tripping knox counter

hello people of XDA devs
this question has probably been asked before on the threads but im new to forums so im not really familiar on how things works here.
just a question though, i am planning to root my samsung galaxy s5.
i know im going to be tripping my knox counter but my question is will i get OTA updates still if my knox has been tripped?
i want rooting for xposed framework, lucky patch, busybox and for nandroid recoveries
Under_Doge said:
hello people of XDA devs
this question has probably been asked before on the threads but im new to forums so im not really familiar on how things works here.
just a question though, i am planning to root my samsung galaxy s5.
i know im going to be tripping my knox counter but my question is will i get OTA updates still if my knox has been tripped?
i want rooting for xposed framework, lucky patch, busybox and for nandroid recoveries
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You will need to flash back stock recovery in order to get ota updates.
Why do you need to trip knox??
you can root the S5 without tripping Knox!!
Newyork! said:
You will need to flash back stock recovery in order to get ota updates.
Why do you need to trip knox??
you can root the S5 without tripping Knox!!
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Even with the latest os 5.0?
I used to have an s4 and back then no one has found out a way to root it without tripping Knox and I'm not going to flash any custom rom. I just want the xposed framework and lucky patcher
Under_Doge said:
Even with the latest os 5.0?
I used to have an s4 and back then no one has found out a way to root it without tripping Knox and I'm not going to flash any custom rom. I just want the xposed framework and lucky patcher
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You can flash back to kitkat and then upgrade with flashfire to stock rooted lollipop.
Newyork! said:
You will need to flash back stock recovery in order to get ota updates.
Why do you need to trip knox??
you can root the S5 without tripping Knox!!
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Really, and how is that done. I have an S5 on AT&T running 5.0, phone was replaced through warranty for a newer version of the S5.
Towelroot didn't even work on my phone when it was on 4.4.2 through 4.4.4
So if there is any that you know how to root my phone, please let me know because I've been looking for a working root since I obtained the phone.

Questions About Rooting Note Pro 12.2

Is this the most recommended method to root my Verizon Note 12.2? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783950
Is this a permanent root? Will I be able to receive and install OTA updates from Verizon if I use this root and will the root be uninstalled as a result?
poetryrocksalot said:
Is this the most recommended method to root my Verizon Note 12.2? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783950
Is this a permanent root? Will I be able to receive and install OTA updates from Verizon if I use this root and will the root be uninstalled as a result?
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That's a good question . I'm looking to root without tripping Knox on my wifi version I just purchased off of ebay. I'm looking for an tar.md5 to start with.. Any help would be appreciated.
Same here. A White WiFi Note 12.2 64GB I bought off eBay, which according to Samsung's website, doesn't exist.
Hello,
Great tablet... I just got one off ebay myself and I see towelroot does not work- app not installed. I Allowed unknown sources in security. I am curious as to why you guys are concerned about tripping the knox since this I think this tablet would be out of warranty, unless you would not want to trip it for resale?
Any success on rooting so far? I am no too experienced but the first thing I'd like to do is get the apk from this enhanced s-note on all my other note tablets and phone.
oand QUOTE=LBJM;64430118]That's a good question . I'm looking to root without tripping Knox on my wifi version I just purchased off of ebay. I'm looking for an tar.md5 to start with.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
tjmethod said:
Hello,
Great tablet... I just got one off ebay myself and I see towelroot does not work- app not installed. I Allowed unknown sources in security. I am curious as to why you guys are concerned about tripping the knox since this I think this tablet would be out of warranty, unless you would not want to trip it for resale?
Any success on rooting so far? I am no too experienced but the first thing I'd like to do is get the apk from this enhanced s-note on all my other note tablets and phone.
oand QUOTE=LBJM;64430118]That's a good question . I'm looking to root without tripping Knox on my wifi version I just purchased off of ebay. I'm looking for an tar.md5 to start with.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
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I tried 2 different versions of Kingroot with no success.
Hi I used the cf auto root - check the 1st pic I attached. Once you plug in a windows pc it should download the samsung drivers then download that specific dl in the pic (I can't copynpaste on here)- it gives you the latest odin program download. It really easy from there. Once you reboot, supersu is there. I then dl'd root checker, titanium backup, busybox, root explorer and most important twrp manager from the play store. It was all too easy. I'm on 5.02 and I did check the knox and it started but stopped and said it couldn't be accessed at this time. I'm keeping the stock rom and just wiped dalvik and cache in recovery.
Rolldog said:
I tried 2 different versions of Kingroot with no success.
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poetryrocksalot said:
Is this the most recommended method to root my Verizon Note 12.2? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783950
Is this a permanent root? Will I be able to receive and install OTA updates from Verizon if I use this root and will the root be uninstalled as a result?
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The most effective way to root this tablet is with Cf-autoroot. It will trip the Knox counter but it will permanently enable SuperSU on your device.
If you root your device you will NOT be able to take OTAs. If you run rooted stock firmware it will alert you that an update is available but most likely it will fail to install. I tried updating my firmware while rooted via Kies and it failed each time.

Rooting S6

Hey guys
I recently acquired my S6 . I was wondering if someone could instruct me on how to root it? I don't mind tripping Knox or voiding warranty. I found rooting instructions but I'm not sure they work on my build and I don't want to mess up my phone. Please assist me in rooting. Build details are in screens hot below
I have the same problem. The current how-to is so outdated that i don't dare to root my phone using that.
And yes those builds complicate things.
same here I wanna root my S6 marshmallow without tripping KNOX
If you don't mind tripping KNOX the root is pretty simple. Just flash this file by Chainfire with Odin and you are done. However you can't root without tripping KNOX.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/2wy5hj88ua9a8fz/CF-Auto-Root-zeroflte-zerofltexx-smg920f.tar.md5

Finally root possible without tripping knox!

Hi everyone, i m new to this community
Now comming to point. . Yes its possible to root our S4 (tried myself on GT-I9500 not sure about others) without tripping knox
Procedure:-
1) Make sure you are connected to internet and usb debugging is enabled in developer options
2) Download an app named "kingoroot" (google it and you will find its link on top)
3) Click root
4) Voila! You are done without tripping your knox:silly:
P.S: i couldn't post links as i am new to this community
Towelroot from Geohot made this possible on KitKat 2 years ago lol
Not to mention Kingoroot is sketchy as hell.
Not to sound condescending or anything, but who really cares about tripping Knox at this point? The Galaxy S4 is over 3 years old. The Samsung warranty is long gone. CF-Auto-Root is an objectively better rooting option, as it allows you to use SuperSU easily instead of the kingoroot app.
Again, not knocking you, I just don't really see the point of using this method.

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