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I posted this on another forum, and the conclusion was that flash support is why I've found that nearly all web pages load faster on my wife's iPhone 4 than my Thunderbolt.
I'm not really satisfied with that answer... does anybody else notice that there is a delay before web pages actually load? The delay is usually a second or more, and occurs in all the browser's I've tried so far. On my wife's iPhone 4, there is absolutely no delay on loading most sites. I've put the phones side to side, and gone to a variety of websites doing my best to press the load button at the same time. iPhone always loads the page initially quicker than the Thunderbolt.
After the second or so delay, web pages load pretty quick, but that delay really gives the feeling of a sluggish browsing experience.
Any way to remedy this? I've tried turning off flash support, but had no luck.
UPDATE: Made a quick video comparison. It's obviously NOT a well-controlled experiment . I'm sure there is a couple millisecond difference between finger pushes on each phone, but either way the iPhone loads the page quicker. I just recorded whitehouse.gov, since neither phone has been on that site AFAIK since we got them. But I assure you that the same difference happens on most other websites. I'm in a well-covered 4g area, and speed tests the past couple of weeks ranged from 10 - 20 mbps down and 6-15 mbps up, so I don't think that's the problem. I'm using the Miren browser in this video, but I've also tried Oper HD, dolphin lite, and the stock browsers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbYrlNNO8nc

I guess I fail to see the problem..
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crazyhtown said:
I guess I fail to see the problem..
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It's not a 'problem' per se. I love the phone. I'm just wondering a) if anybody else has noticed this, and b) if anybody has any alternative explanations for why browsing, at least for me, doesn't seem blazing fast... particularly since I'm on the 4G LTE network, and the only other phone I've had experience with (iPhone) seems to have a faster browsing experience despite being limited to 3G.

The stock browser is sluggish. I have noticed the same thing with the browser hanging but only on sense roms. I switched to miren browser and all is well.
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I have noticed this. I'm rooted but on the stock ROM and I see significant slowness in the browser. Sometimes the browser will not load a page at all and the bar will stay at around 75% complete and never go any further. If I close the browser and try again it will sometimes completely load but most times I just have to wait and try it later. This is not what I was experiencing when I first got it.

None of my browsers fail to begin loading the page immediately after I hit "go" :/
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Coming from the Archos and ViewSonic tablets, plus Galaxy S phones, I got in the habit of only using Dolphin Browser.
My TBolt is fine in Dolphin Browser, and exceeds the Archos A70 that I use every day. I try to maintain low expectations, that way I can be positively surprised.

The stock browser works very smoothly for me on cm7, and I'm not overclocked. You could always try dolphin or opera.

xScope is my favorite for speed and features.
I only use the stock browser for Hulu now.

tbns said:
It's not a 'problem' per se. I love the phone. I'm just wondering a) if anybody else has noticed this, and b) if anybody has any alternative explanations for why browsing, at least for me, doesn't seem blazing fast... particularly since I'm on the 4G LTE network, and the only other phone I've had experience with (iPhone) seems to have a faster browsing experience despite being limited to 3G.
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If my GFs iphone loaded pages more quickly than my Tbolt on 4G, I would definitely consider that a problem. What are your typical 4G download speeds? I get between 14-20 Mbps on speakeasy.net (stock browser)
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Going to try and take a video of the comparison if I can tonight so you guys can judge.
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UPDATE: Made a quick video comparison. It's obviously NOT a well-controlled experiment . I'm sure there is a couple millisecond difference between finger pushes on each phone, but either way the iPhone loads the page quicker. I just recorded whitehouse.gov, since neither phone has been on that site AFAIK since we got them. But I assure you that the same difference happens on most other websites. I'm in a well-covered 4g area, and speed tests the past couple of weeks ranged from 10 - 20 mbps down and 6-15 mbps up, so I don't think that's the problem. I'm using the Miren browser in this video, but I've also tried Oper HD, dolphin lite, and the stock browsers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbYrlNNO8nc

Surfing with Chrome on this tablet is really laggy, anyone else experiencing this?

It's no where near as snappy as surfing with Chrome on my Nexus 7.
I'm running Cromi-X with:
fsync disabled
that Chrome speed up mod option when you first install Cromi-X
I see posts on here where people's TF700's run smooth. What other things are you doing to your tablet?

Neo3D said:
It's no where near as snappy as surfing with Chrome on my Nexus 7.
I'm running Cromi-X with:
fsync disabled
that Chrome speed up mod option when you first install Cromi-X
I see posts on here where people's TF700's run smooth. What other things are you doing to your tablet?
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Chrome has always ran slow on my tablet. B2R takes away the lag mostly but it is still slow. I prefer Dolphin, Boat, and stock.
Tylor
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Neo3D said:
It's no where near as snappy as surfing with Chrome on my Nexus 7.
I'm running Cromi-X with:
fsync disabled
that Chrome speed up mod option when you first install Cromi-X
I see posts on here where people's TF700's run smooth. What other things are you doing to your tablet?
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Yeah its awful on the TF. No idea why.
Stock is perfect. Pages load quick. sbdags did an excellent job with it

KinetiClutch said:
Yeah its awful on the TF. No idea why.
Stock is perfect. Pages load quick. sbdags did an excellent job with it
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That's too bad. I like Chrome, but I guess I'll switch to the stock browser.
That's so strange, tho. Chrome runs perfect on the Nexus 7.
What are your settings in the Labs tab of the stock browser?

Neo3D said:
That's too bad. I like Chrome, but I guess I'll switch to the stock browser.
That's so strange, tho. Chrome runs perfect on the Nexus 7.
What are your settings in the Labs tab of the stock browser?
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Did you guys play with about:flags? Type that into the url in chrome and check it out. Its Labs ^2.
Ps-I'm the guy that wrote the B2R script for CROMIX and I run chrome beta. I can be made to run pretty fast, but not as fast as stock unfortunately but I prefer it.

I use to use Chrome on my phone and everything, but after a while was like na I'll try the stock one out. Haven't looked back since. Its quick and solid on Cromi-X
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Neo3D said:
It's no where near as snappy as surfing with Chrome on my Nexus 7.
I'm running Cromi-X with:
fsync disabled
that Chrome speed up mod option when you first install Cromi-X
I see posts on here where people's TF700's run smooth. What other things are you doing to your tablet?
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Try Firefox beta. Its running very smooth
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Chrome has gotten progressively worse in my experience, despite tons of small updates with "performance improvements". Recently it was all but unusable. I installed the latest firmware update and it seems to be better, so perhaps the problem is the stock ROM rather than the app.
I agree that stock browser is quite good. I particularly like the gesture mode (swipe from side and you get a speed dial for the different functions). However, I disagree that its page loading times are up to snuff. The browser's much slower than Chrome (after Chrome recovers from being unresponsive for a while when entering URLs). I think some of the issue may even be only apparent, since Chrome starts rendering pages immediately while stock browser waits until the loading bar is some 3/4 of the way, but still the (subjective) impression I get is that Chrome renders much faster.

If you google android browser tests there are quite a few fairly comprehensive ones.
Most of those note that Chrome for some reason just doesn't run well.
Quite ironic considering it's my desktop browser of choice due to it's speed
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elfaure said:
Did you guys play with about:flags? Type that into the url in chrome and check it out. Its Labs ^2.
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I enabled "Override software rendering list" and Chrome seems to be a little bit snappier. I will play with more of the about:flags settings and see if any of them really help!
Edit: I also enabled "Accelerated overflow scroll".
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Hey There,
TF700 stock not-rooted here, and chrome suck's, very laggy to change from tabs it looks like it re-render / refresh the page, and it usually get "stuck" and have to be closed, I still use it because I use it on my work notebook, personal notebook, Galaxy S2, and well, I really enjoy my favorites everywhere, but I have been using very little.
Does anyone got any improves just changing parameters on about:flags? We could do a sticky post with all the information about it, and the results of the tests.
I will give a shot when I get home, any improvements I will post here, even though I think I will change the ROM first, this stock is killing me.

Takx said:
Hey There,
TF700 stock not-rooted here, and chrome suck's, very laggy to change from tabs it looks like it re-render / refresh the page, and it usually get "stuck" and have to be closed, I still use it because I use it on my work notebook, personal notebook, Galaxy S2, and well, I really enjoy my favorites everywhere, but I have been using very little.
Does anyone got any improves just changing parameters on about:flags? We could do a sticky post with all the information about it, and the results of the tests.
I will give a shot when I get home, any improvements I will post here, even though I think I will change the ROM first, this stock is killing me.
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Obviously it's your choice but IMO just how frustrated i got with stock and Chrome browsers on the stock ASUS firmware was rendering the tablet unusable. It was so frustrating, especially in lectures where a friend on his iPad could look through about 5 tabs before mine had loaded a page and let me type an URL.
Since CROMI-X the stock browser runs incredibly well. (AS IN IT ACTUALLY WORKS LIKE ON MOST OTHER TABLETS) :laugh:

KinetiClutch said:
Obviously it's your choice but IMO just how frustrated i got with stock and Chrome browsers on the stock ASUS firmware was rendering the tablet unusable. It was so frustrating, especially in lectures where a friend on his iPad could look through about 5 tabs before mine had loaded a page and let me type an URL.
Since CROMI-X the stock browser runs incredibly well. (AS IN IT ACTUALLY WORKS LIKE ON MOST OTHER TABLETS) :laugh:
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Yeah, I know about your frustration.
I just got to the forum (to actually post something), even though I have a galaxy S2 with ressurection remix for quite a long time, just now I'm having time to look for ROM's for the TF700.
I already got notes and will research about CROMI-X and will look for some more ROM's, do you know any other? I know that changing the kernel can directly affect the performance and battery on the ROM, I guess will have to research a lot.

B2R is best - I was using dolphin - not anymore!

Let's face it chrome sucks, even with b2r. I don't know what Google are doing. The stock browser combined with b2r is unbeatable IMO.

Hundsbuah said:
Try Firefox beta. Its running very smooth
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FYI - Not yet released, but I will add Firefox beta and Dolphin beta to the next final release of the MB2R script. There is some cleanup I need to do as well.

Neo3D said:
It's no where near as snappy as surfing with Chrome on my Nexus 7.
I'm running Cromi-X with:
fsync disabled
that Chrome speed up mod option when you first install Cromi-X
I see posts on here where people's TF700's run smooth. What other things are you doing to your tablet?
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You may need to fine tune your network speed and buffersize for a better loading and downloading. For example, hsxpa, dns, wifi read and write buffer, ipv4.tcp_mem, ipv4.udp_rmem, ipv4_udp_rmem, core.wmem_max and rmem_max=2M, tcp_congestion_control=cubic, and change your minfree a little more aggressive especially the last two numbers.

sbdags said:
Let's face it chrome sucks, even with b2r. I don't know what Google are doing. The stock browser combined with b2r is unbeatable IMO.
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Is b2r enabled by default? If not, how do we do that?

Yes it is enabled in CROMi-X by default.

How to optimize Chrome for the Exynos S7?

I have my S7 (Exynos) for 1 week now and what bothers me most is the often laggy scrolling, especially in Chrome. On both phones I used before (Nexus 5 and ZUK Z1) Chrome worked great and I got really used to it. I did try a lot of other browsers (FF, Dolphin, Opera, CM, UC, Boat, and many more) but I always went back to Chrome.
So, not happy with the performance of Chrome on my S7 I tried to optimize via the flags. I tried a lot there like en-/disabling smooth scrolling, changing the settings for GPU rasterization, etc. But nothing seems to really help much. I heard that there was a option in older versions which allowed you to allocate more RAM to Chrome, but those flags are gone now
So I wonder, did anybody here manage to set up Chrome on a Exynos S7 for a smoother experience? And if so, what settings exactly did you change?
PS: I always use Chrome BETA if that matters.
BTW: Does Chrome perform better on the SD820 powered S7s? Just wondering....

Yeah I really want to know too!

Bro i can assure yu that yu wont have any problem of yu switch to stable chrome
Chrome beta is good if yu are eager for small changes made early or if yu are a developer
I use chrome stable build and on exynos s7 and its awesome
I too dont like other browers they may open few pages fast but they also dont open few pages also and they are not that lightning fast also if yu use a good connection chrome is sufficient
So i would recommend yu to uninstall beta and install stable chrome and see the difference for yourself

Sorry man, I just tried both, Chrome and Chrome Beta, on androidpolice and the verge. Same settings on both and I can't see/feel any difference.
Since I disabled safe browsing and the prediction services it seems to be a bit less laggy now (or I'm just getting used to it?) but still nowhere as smooth as on the ZUK and especially on the N5. Seriously, my Nexus 5 was the smoothest experience ever.

The samsung browser is the only answer, its buttery smooth.

peachpuff said:
The samsung browser is the only answer, its buttery smooth.
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This.

Frankie73 said:
Sorry man, I just tried both, Chrome and Chrome Beta, on androidpolice and the verge. Same settings on both and I can't see/feel any difference.
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I don't know what to say except that on my S7 (exynos) scrolling these two websites is butter smooth on Chrome stable.

superslow browsing in both stock and chrome

Hi,
Im an iphone 6 convert, i was used to having fast loading and instant page back.
On the S7 I found that browsing is superslow, loading pages is slow and when I go back a page, it reloads the whole page again.
The stock is a little faster than chrome, but not much. Plus I want chrome for syncing.
Im on 5ghz, 5m away from router. DL speed is superfast, so no issue there. Other apps works just fine and fast.
Seems to me that the S7 should easily be able to handle this.....my moto g 1 almost does it better
Tried 4G and chrome beta and dev, dev seems a little faster, but not much. Little dissapointed.
Anyone the same issue?

Perhaps chrome canary from play store will help you ?
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Scrolling smoothness

Some phones exhibit choppy scrolling, especially when navigating long web pages when multiple apps are running in the background. Rate this thread to express how you smooth scrolling feels on the Samsung Galaxy S8 under such conditions. A higher rating indicates that scrolling is always buttery smooth, even when you're reading a 10,000 word article on "how to kiss a girl".
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Lags and stutters :| not horribly though! it's like console compared to a PC (iPhone and others being a PC ok maybe more like 144hz compared to 30-60fps )

I am also interested why every android while using data lags.

With chrome browser things are a bit better. Defenetly the stutter is there but not as persistant as it is on the stock internet explorer.

As a mobile dev in a first phase I thought it was caused by the app I was working on, but I can definitely say that this stuttering is actually a system-wide issue with the S8
It's probably related to the Samsung's Android ROM; I'd love to hear feedback from ppl with custom ROMs, I'm quite confident they don't have this kind of issue.

No scroll stutter in anything except facebook app and playstore which forced me to actually use facebook via chrome and the problem was solved. I have disabled a whole bunch of services and other apps and it helped quite much.
A tip for chrome users is to enable data saver built in option and use adblock. Ads these days are one of the main causes of stutter in web browsing.

prfraczek said:
I am also interested why every android while using data lags.
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Not every Android. Stock Android does not lag at all. Try a Pixel for a day and report back.
Sammy just has way to much bloat on top of Android. Even 6 gigs on the Note 8 cant fix the occasional lag.

jmill75 said:
Not every Android. Stock Android does not lag at all. Try a Pixel for a day and report back.
Sammy just has way to much bloat on top of Android. Even 6 gigs on the Note 8 cant fix the occasional lag.
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Pixel does lag as well when using data in background. I've tested it. Just ios change priority to higher when on the top and giving less priority to network access to make UI smoother.
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prfraczek said:
Pixel does lag as well when using data in background. I've tested it. Just ios change priority to higher when on the top and giving less priority to network access to make UI smoother.
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Good to hear buddy. Glad you tested it.
I have a Note 8 and a Pixel 2 in my hands right now. Night and day difference. But since you tested it for me, you must be right.

jmill75 said:
Good to hear buddy. Glad you tested it.
I have a Note 8 and a Pixel 2 in my hands right now. Night and day difference. But since you tested it for me, you must be right.
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We were talking about Pixel nature Pixel in first place, did we? I don't know pixel2 and oreo. Maybe you're right. I was comparing my girlfriend's pixel 1 with my s8 couple months ago. PXL definitely better than s8+ but not buttery smooth. Do you own one? Make a video with profile gpu rendering On.
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