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I just moved from a Nexus One to the G2x, and the biggest thing that is bothering me at the moment is the way kinetic scrolling works. On the Nexus One, it felt very natural, but on the G2x, it feels wrong, sort of like the feeling you get in a revolving door with a speed governor. As an example, on the Nexus One if I gave the list of cities in Groupon a really fast swipe, it would scroll all the way through the list without stopping, just gradually slowing down over a period of a couple of seconds. With the G2x, the same swipe only gets me through a third of the list. I have the same kind of feeling in a long web page in the browser, too, but there's another annoying effect, too: it seems to take ages to finally stop moving -- sort of like the "friction" is too high when the list or web page is moving quickly, but it's too low when the list is moving slowly.
Anybody else feel the same? Is there any setting anywhere to control that?
I feel ya. Like flicking jelly. Only scrolls like a page. No big deal but yea.
Like heavy weight setting.
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i thought it was just me, or the launcher i'm using. hopefully a cooked rom will improve this.
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i thought it was just me, or the launcher i'm using. hopefully a cooked rom will improve this.
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Yeah, that's probably going to be my number 1 motivation for moving to a new ROM when they come out.
I noticed this as well... scrolling quickly is no big deal, I just flick a couple times in a row instead of just once. The coasting slowly to a stop is a little annoying but I'm already used to it.
I don't like it either.
And WTF is up with pinch zooming in the gallery app? That **** is mental.
It definitely takes some getting used to. Can't wait for an update or some Cyanogen goodness.
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There *has* to be a way to control this. Scrolling in some apps (like Firefox) feels completely different.
Ain't that bad. Annoying... but meh. I know custom roms will fix it.
Most of the little quirks are just software bugs that I'm simply overlooking for the time being.
Yeah, definitely annoying. When trying to scroll straight up and down a webpage, it goes diagonally and just feels like the page is "floating". Definitely different than any other phone I've used.
I'm coming from an n1 too. It is definitely different. I am having the added problem of the page shaking if I hold my finger on the screen. Very annoying. Can anyone else report similar behavior?
The scrolling is getting on my damn nerves. I hope it gets fixed soon.
I downloaded a few different multi touch test apps and noticed specifically when I make a pinch gesture where two fingers are close together, the multi touch freaks out and flashes back and forward between the two fingers... Does any one else experience this?
Here is a video
https://goo.gl/photos/ZNZvjPc1NWbL1N1G9
Also it continues to flicker for about half a second after I let go
I don't notice any multitouch weirdness when I pinch zoom..
Do you?
Something about finding a "problem" only in "test mode" sounds like a friend who moves their arm and is saying "it hurts when I do this."
And all you can really think of saying is "well, silly, don't do that then."
Seriously though, do you notice any real world scenario where you pinch zoom and it flies around or something?
Maybe your fingers have an electrostatic bounce!
Just for fun, what test app are you using? I will try to duplicate it at any rate!
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Yes, when viewing pictures it won't zoom in till I grow my pinch pretty far, or in maps it will occasionally zoom out really far before zooming in.
I'm using multitouch visible test by bit power studios
Thanks
Hi there. Did you find a solution for this? I'm experiencing pretty much the same on my Google Pixel 2, except that it is like that no matter how far i pinch. It tends to bounce back and forth like that whenever i zoom, and it gets pretty annoying when you do stuff like zooming on pictures on instagram, when you have to hold the fingers there to keep the zoom. Do you think the digitizer is broken? Seems to be a bit jumpy using one finger too (tested with the app Multi Touch Test).
I do understand when people really get annoyed by lag and stutters. I know I do but I feel like this is more than just a stutter.
Scrolling is smooth for the most part. But I didn't notice since yesterday that when I flick up or down while scrolling it stutters for a split second then continues at it's targeted 60 fps. But if I hold my finger on screen and scroll without lifting framerate drops to more than half of that target. It's horribke. Once I lift my finger fps is back to normal. I know this isn't just me. This wasn't happening the first couple days with the phone. Now it's driving me crazy. Such poor optimizations.
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I do understand when people really get annoyed by lag and stutters. I know I do but I feel like this is more than just a stutter.
Scrolling is smooth for the most part. But I didn't notice since yesterday that when I flick up or down while scrolling it stutters for a split second then continues at it's targeted 60 fps. But if I hold my finger on screen and scroll without lifting framerate drops to more than half of that target. It's horribke. Once I lift my finger fps is back to normal. I know this isn't just me. This wasn't happening the first couple days with the phone. Now it's driving me crazy. Such poor optimizations.
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If it is exynos (probably not) it will get a update soon for little bugs and facial recognition improvements. Hope this gets fixed. If it is a sd835, no word about update till now.
No lag here.
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i've finally experienced lagging when changing homescreen widgets. I'm using the default TW launcher.
Was the same story with the wonderful Note 7, Those outside the USA didn't experience lag while those from the USA often did. From memory the situation often came down to the processor, in Europe we enjoy the Exynos. The other appeared to be the carriers bloatware in the USA be it Verizon or At&T etc?
I had zero lag on the Note 7 same with the S8+ Thank heavens!
Just a thought.
Ryland
Figured out that the lag was caused by BixBye, an app that remaps the Bixby button to any other action. Removed it and lag gone completely and back to normal!
For me, I got rid of my lag by switching over to nova launcher.
Try changing screen resolution then changing it back to what you had it on (FHD to QHD etc) My device smooths out significant. Not sure how this makes sense but it works. Try it!
Some phones exhibit choppy scrolling, especially when navigating long web pages when multiple apps are running in the background. Rate this thread to express how you smooth scrolling feels on the OnePlus 5 under such conditions. A higher rating indicates that scrolling is always buttery smooth, even when you're reading a 10,000 word article on "how to kiss a girl".
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I see no 'jelly screen'. Then again, I'm an old guy and I rely pretty firmly upon my progressive lenses.
None of the jelly problems with my OnePlus+ 5 running the latest OS
Scrolling smoothness is really nice on the 5. If you want a really smooth experience, change your CPU governors to OnDemand from interactive. The difference is very noticeable.
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Scrolling smoothness is really nice on the 5. If you want a really smooth experience, change your CPU governors to OnDemand from interactive. The difference is very noticeable.
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can we do that on the stock kernel?
Yep. I use the ex kernel manager and on stock rom with stock kernel. I have like 5 or so options for governor.
One thing I've noticed with these last few builds.. if you have an app in app locker, there's frame drops and stutters if you scroll through in your recents..
I've found same event. Then i chose to adjust animation scale to 0.5 or 0. Which makes it much better.
No changes to animation speed, no changes to kernel or governor and have seen no jelly effect, this only affects a very small number of devices, I've had two Oneplus devices, bought one on launch at midnight then lost it four days later, ordered another and got it three days later, no jelly effect whatsoever.
The speed of this phone is insane.
Apps can lag that correct but only because of the app or the content, so for example a half loaded chrome page can lag, that has nothing to do with the phone at all my PC which is worth over £4000 can lag on webpages if they haven't loaded properly, it's not the hardware.
The jelly effect is there in all phones...just some people dont notice it
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The jelly effect is there in all phones...just some people dont notice it
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Yea its not mate. I'm not blind. I have perfect vision. Its not visible on either of my phones
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Yea its not mate. I'm not blind. I have perfect vision. Its not visible on either of my phones
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Every op5 has the screen panel upside down...
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Every op5 has the screen panel upside down...
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Makes no difference, the jelly effect is not present on every device, assuming that everyone has a problem seeing it because you can on your device does not mean that they have defective devices!
I've had two 1+5 devices and neither exhibited this issue, I tested it thoroughly, nothing is present, i recorded it and played it back in slow motion, comparable to any previous device i've ever had it's literally the same.
I did a video next to my HTC, there is no jelly.
Period.
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Makes no difference, the jelly effect is not present on every device, assuming that everyone has a problem seeing it because you can on your device does not mean that they have defective devices!
I've had two 1+5 devices and neither exhibited this issue, I tested it thoroughly, nothing is present, i recorded it and played it back in slow motion, comparable to any previous device i've ever had it's literally the same.
I did a video next to my HTC, there is no jelly.
Period.
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If yours is not defected you should try looking for the effect with your phone upside down if you see the jelly effect upside down its not defective but if you don't it is
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If yours is not defected you should try looking for the effect with your phone upside down if you see the jelly effect upside down its not defective but if you don't it is
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hahah mate you're missing the point, why would i hold my phone upside down? I appreciate once you've seen your phone has a defect it's impossible to ignore, i personally would make something up and send the bugger back until i got a phone that i couldn't notice it on, it would drive me mental, i don't care if they don't think it's an issue, it's bad if this many people have seen it.
All i'm saying is, I don't have this issue, check my video if you want or provide me with a fool proof test and i'll do it now, if it's me overlooking it then it's something so insignificant that i dont' actually mind, but maybe i would if i saw it.
Sorry i sound like i'm being a **** i'm not mate, but it's not present on either phone i've had, i'm sorry that yours is, funny thing is too a mate of mine just got one and he can't see it either, he mentioned that he did one time when scrolling on the web, but couldn't replicate it? Not sure if it's lag or something?
I haven't notice any of the "jelly effects" ..ok I havent recorded my screen and play the exported video in -x16 speed to check it either..
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Makes no difference, the jelly effect is not present on every device
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Welp, not exactly.
Why? Because its not a hardware flaw, its a "design choice". The Display (of every current OP5 out there right now) is mounted upside down, meaning the direction the phone refreshes its display is from the bottom towards the top.
While this is not a defect or problem from a technical point of view, it can still be perceived by a lot of people, since our brains are usually expecting the panel to refresh from the top towards the bottom. The Jelly comes due to the panel not updating all pixels at once but by line after line instead.. our brain gets used to the bottom of the screen beeing updated later and simply ignores it (very rough explanation but im missing the needed vocab here).. the screen refreshing towards the top the messes with some peoples perception, therefore they notice the "Jelly" aka the lines refreshing last at the top..
This issue is purely caused by our brain expecting the panel to refresh from a different direction, so its simply a matter of getting used to it. I had headaches when using the phone in the first week or so, now I barely notice the Jelly, if at all.
Some, like me, will notice it instantly at first, others might never (Just like the discussions over frame rates, input lag and so on ). There are several factors to consider, everyone has a different sensitivity towards stuff like this and in the end, remember, its no hardware flaw, its a design choice and technically present on every OP5.
Unless they decide to either change the way the display refreshes within the Driver or Display Controller (well, that would actually be some serious work and would need cooperation with Samsung due to them producing the Displays and the Drivers, if its possible at all - again, several dependencies here) or change the direction of the screen in a later model, the "Jelly - Issue" will consist.
But hey, you are right in your other post, if you dont see it, be glad about it and dont bother to start looking for the Issue, no point to try to search for flaws that you didnt have for now, be happy with your phone
Just trying to clear up some of the confusion
Yet, this shouldnt be the topic of this thread, since this is about Scrolling smoothness, which has nothing to do with the Jelly Effect....
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For me, it hasnt been the smoothest experience to be honest.. while the phone is crazy fast, the overall handling feels very jittery.. Lots of dropped frames, way more than on my Nexus 5 running MIUI.. My N5 and my iPhone 6 feel so much smoother..
Might have to mess with custom kernels and so on a bit more, overall it at least feels smoother than an S8 tho :laugh:
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Welp, not exactly.
Why? Because its not a hardware flaw, its a "design choice". The Display (of every current OP5 out there right now) is mounted upside down, meaning the direction the phone refreshes its display is from the bottom towards the top.
While this is not a defect or problem from a technical point of view, it can still be perceived by a lot of people, since our brains are usually expecting the panel to refresh from the top towards the bottom. The Jelly comes due to the panel not updating all pixels at once but by line after line instead.. our brain gets used to the bottom of the screen beeing updated later and simply ignores it (very rough explanation but im missing the needed vocab here).. the screen refreshing towards the top the messes with some peoples perception, therefore they notice the "Jelly" aka the lines refreshing last at the top..
This issue is purely caused by our brain expecting the panel to refresh from a different direction, so its simply a matter of getting used to it. I had headaches when using the phone in the first week or so, now I barely notice the Jelly, if at all.
Some, like me, will notice it instantly at first, others might never (Just like the discussions over frame rates, input lag and so on ). There are several factors to consider, everyone has a different sensitivity towards stuff like this and in the end, remember, its no hardware flaw, its a design choice and technically present on every OP5.
Unless they decide to either change the way the display refreshes within the Driver or Display Controller (well, that would actually be some serious work and would need cooperation with Samsung due to them producing the Displays and the Drivers, if its possible at all - again, several dependencies here) or change the direction of the screen in a later model, the "Jelly - Issue" will consist.
But hey, you are right in your other post, if you dont see it, be glad about it and dont bother to start looking for the Issue, no point to try to search for flaws that you didnt have for now, be happy with your phone
Just trying to clear up some of the confusion
Yet, this shouldnt be the topic of this thread, since this is about Scrolling smoothness, which has nothing to do with the Jelly Effect....
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For me, it hasnt been the smoothest experience to be honest.. while the phone is crazy fast, the overall handling feels very jittery.. Lots of dropped frames, way more than on my Nexus 5 running MIUI.. My N5 and my iPhone 6 feel so much smoother..
Might have to mess with custom kernels and so on a bit more, overall it at least feels smoother than an S8 tho :laugh:
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Yep I do understand how the jelly effect happens, and I understand that "some people" have this gift of being able to see it whilst everyone else "me" are left thinking the world has gone mad.
I've honestly put my two cents in here so many times and it's fallen on deaf ears by the sounds of things so I'm going to leave it, I don't have this effect on my phone, not did I on my previous oneplus five, I have video recordings of the screen in use and this jelly effect does not present itself, I'm sure that with video slowed down even me with my eyes could see it ?
Even if all that were true, if I have to be watching things in slow Mo to see them then I think it's safe to say that it's something that I don't have to worry about.
I also personally don't have lags and glitches on my device, I've also owned more devices than the average shop so i do have a basis for comparison, not only that but I have an unlimited phone supply partly due to where I work, comparing my phone side by side with any top tier device yields no other reason to believe anything other than what I've just written and that's not just me that's my work colleagues seeing the same.
Appreciate that yourself and others see this issue probably more than I.
If you have a fool proof way of me testing my device then please let me know and I'll check, I'll record it and I'll apologise profusely if its present.
People are way to focused on the jelly here, I really don't mind it.
What is worse for me is the stuttering. But it's hard to know if it's only me or not as nobody is discussing this, just discussing the jelly.
For me I get a weird stutter at the end of a lot of scrolls, happens more on small scrolls or flings, as it's slowing down I get a little stutter, especially noticeable in the likes of Instagram or YouTube or certain chrome pages like this (xda)
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People are way to focused on the jelly here, I really don't mind it.
What is worse for me is the stuttering. But it's hard to know if it's only me or not as nobody is discussing this, just discussing the jelly.
For me I get a weird stutter at the end of a lot of scrolls, happens more on small scrolls or flings, as it's slowing down I get a little stutter, especially noticeable in the likes of Instagram or YouTube or certain chrome pages like this (xda)
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Same here bro, jelly scrolling is ignored by eyes after some time but stuttering is clearly visible, especially scrolling webpages in chrome.
Hey guys, my son plays a Batman Lego Movie game and it's similar to Subway Surfer. He was telling me last night the screen is not very sensitive compared to his S8. Has anyone encountered anything the same? I don't play too many games but I wonder if this is something on all of the PH1s or just mine.
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I noticed the same thing but I'm not a gamer. I have to touch some things twice to get it to do what it's supposed tozoo
I am noticing the same thing! I haven't noticed it in games since I don't game but I do have to tap things twice sometimes. I thought it was just me! Haha
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Same here. Also seems to have micro stutters when scrolling. Not smooth scrolling at all.
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Scrolling isn't too bad. Overall I really like the device. Build quality is exceptional. Haven't had it long enough to comment on battery or camera. Might actually keep it over the note.
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oh... I'm not liking this. I'm not a gamer, but I like my phones to be responsive. I swear my Nexus 6P sometimes picks up the heat of my finger before I actually touch. That is sensitive!
Reporting same issue of having to tap things twice to register.
Agree similar issues here but some fanboy is going to come and say we all are just making this up to make look essential bad. When so many people are complaining that basic stuff isn't working properly you know this company wasn't ready software wise for the launch. Looks like they wanted to rush it out before the fall launch of major phones.
Considering that is an adjustable setting in some way (Since some other devices have a "Glove mode" and whatnot) I wonder if this can be adjusted in software easy enough in an update or given to us as an option. (Or heck, get root, make changes. )
Also, remember the phone does have a lot of rejection detection built in mainly because you will be touching the edges much easier on the device than you would most others. This for sure can cause sensitivity problems but just to check, how does the phone do one handed without anything near the edge of the screen?
It's just a thought but I notice this with other devices (my U11 even has this issue and I do dislike it vs my 6P and G3 even).
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I noticed the same thing but I'm not a gamer. I have to touch some things twice to get it to do what it's supposed tozoo
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I like the "I'm not a gamer" comment..... With a Descent Underground Sig. lol
Lier!
(also I feel that game is less Descent feeling than Overload. Overload feels perfect while Descent Underground just feels and looks, off.)
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Considering that is an adjustable setting in some way (Since some other devices have a "Glove mode" and whatnot) I wonder if this can be adjusted in software easy enough in an update or given to us as an option. (Or heck, get root, make changes. )
Also, remember the phone does have a lot of rejection detection built in mainly because you will be touching the edges much easier on the device than you would most others. This for sure can cause sensitivity problems but just to check, how does the phone do one handed without anything near the edge of the screen?
It's just a thought but I notice this with other devices (my U11 even has this issue and I do dislike it vs my 6P and G3 even).
I like the "I'm not a gamer" comment..... With a Descent Underground Sig. lol
Lier!
(also I feel that game is less Descent feeling than Overload. Overload feels perfect while Descent Underground just feels and looks, off.)
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Lol, well ok, not a phone gamer! Ugh. No.
Good point in the edge thing, that is where I notice it most like top corner 3 dot.
Thanks for pointing that out.
I like the phone so I'll live with it till I can't ?
Zo0
Could they really adjust sensitivity with a software update?
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Same!
I am finding screen sensitivity issues as well. I don't see any scrolling issues though. Just seems like I have to touch things a couple times. Especially the keyboard when typing
I'm fortunate in that I'm not having any sensitivity issues, or scrolling issues.
Some apps do seem to have issues with the what would seem to be a screen resolution issue (textra for example) where the inputs are off by a few pixels. Maybe this is what y'all are experiencing?
This is my second day with the phone, it's definitely smoother than day one. I'm guessing the OS was optimizing.
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I'm fortunate in that I'm not having any sensitivity issues, or scrolling issues.
Some apps do seem to have issues with the what would seem to be a screen resolution issue (textra for example) where the inputs are off by a few pixels. Maybe this is what y'all are experiencing?
This is my second day with the phone, it's definitely smoother than day one. I'm guessing the OS was optimizing.
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Same here no issues with that.
I need TWRP to restore all my data.
I need TWRP and root to get rid of all the stinking ads everywhere.
I notice it as well while playing clash royale, really annoying.
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I'm fortunate in that I'm not having any sensitivity issues, or scrolling issues.
Some apps do seem to have issues with the what would seem to be a screen resolution issue (textra for example) where the inputs are off by a few pixels. Maybe this is what y'all are experiencing?
This is my second day with the phone, it's definitely smoother than day one. I'm guessing the OS was optimizing.
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It's definitely this, I can't reorder stats in the fitbit app. I tried plugging in a USB mouse and it still didn't work so it's not the touch.
I haven't noticed any issues with having to tap the screen twice, however I have noticed while typing the haptic feedback sometimes seems like it misses a letter or two. The action registers and the letter appears but i get no vibration for some reason. It's been pretty sporadic. Maybe an AOSP but since we're so close to stock?
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I seem to be having the same issues... starting to get very frustrating.
I'm not having any sensitivity issues. Are you seeing them after installing any apps?