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[Q] Android mini pc

Hi, Can any one tell me
1. What is the difference between a "mini pc" an "android stick" ,a "tv box" ex' ?
2. What is the difference between Mk802III and Mk809II or it is the same gadget ?
3. What is the most powerful android mini pc that I can buy today (20 february 2013) ?
4. Is there a device like the above with four core cpu that has more speed, and can multitask better ?
I new to the forum so be patient with me please.
Thank you

the android stick usually has the form factor or a usb memory, just a bit larger and heavier.it has just one or two usb ports and an mini hdmi video output. minipc and tv box are usually more complex and include card reader, more usb ports and depend on design, more video out interfaces.
i never seen a android stick with a quad core cpu, usually they has cheap one core 1ghz cpu.
what is the best you can buy? well, hard to tell, usually i got some on ebay from china and very rarely i see the same object on sale more than once. pay attention when you buy one because they try to fake and say 1.5ghz cpu, while in the end it has a 1ghz cpu and 0.5ghz gpu

Question: Best laptop specs for Video Editing / Post-production

Hello XDA!
I'm thinking on buying a laptop with main porpouse to edit videos in Premiere CC and After Effects CC. The Raw videos I intend to edit are from my DSLR camera Canon 600D (1080P 50FPS). As right now, I have Asus K52Jc (i5, 4gb of ram and nvidia 310m) and I am able to edit Full HD videos, but it's kinda pain in a a**. The maximum I can spend as right now is 1000€ and I don't want to buy Desktop.
I'm here to ask you guys if you can explain me what does video editing consume at most. And the most, how important is GPU for Premiere / After Effects? Is nVidia Geforce GT740m 2GB DDR3 good for editing FULL HD videos?
P.S. I know you will telling me to buy TOP GPU cards, but I don't really have much money to spend.

Antique_Angel said:
Hello XDA!
I'm thinking on buying a laptop with main porpouse to edit videos in Premiere CC and After Effects CC. The Raw videos I intend to edit are from my DSLR camera Canon 600D (1080P 50FPS). As right now, I have Asus K52Jc (i5, 4gb of ram and nvidia 310m) and I am able to edit Full HD videos, but it's kinda pain in a a**. The maximum I can spend as right now is 1000€ and I don't want to buy Desktop.
I'm here to ask you guys if you can explain me what does video editing consume at most. And the most, how important is GPU for Premiere / After Effects? Is nVidia Geforce GT740m 2GB DDR3 good for editing FULL HD videos?
P.S. I know you will telling me to buy TOP GPU cards, but I don't really have much money to spend.
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Basically any of the core i5s will work.
But even with haswell the graphics are exceptionally weak.
At least get a haswell i5 an ssd(Very beneficial) and have 4gb of ram and usb 3.0.
Look for laptops with an exotic graphics config like an nvidia gpu on the motherboard.
It's hard to find a good laptop for this vs building a desktop pc.
Hope it works out for you.

Lgrootnoob said:
Basically any of the core i5s will work.
But even with haswell the graphics are exceptionally weak.
At least get a haswell i5 an ssd(Very beneficial) and have 4gb of ram and usb 3.0.
Look for laptops with an exotic graphics config like an nvidia gpu on the motherboard.
It's hard to find a good laptop for this vs building a desktop pc.
Hope it works out for you.
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Hello there,
Basically I have DSLR Camera (Canon 600D) which I use to film in Full HD (1080P 50fps) for my movies (short plays and medium plays).
So, I am thinking to buy a laptop with main porpouse to edit my videos in Premiere CS6 and After Effects CS6 and I would like to ask you guys if you can help me choose one. Maximum I could spend is 1000€.
So, I don't care how much time my laptop will take to export movies, but what is most important to me is smooth editing ( fast pre-rendering). I know that pre-render / in software render uses Nvidia CUDA cores to acelerate the process.
I choosed these two laptops:
ASUS K750JB:
Intel i7 4700HQ 2.4 - 3.4GhZ
12GB RAM 1600mHz
Nvidia GT 740M 2GB DDR3 384 Cuda Cores <<< ---- can this one do the job done?
1TB 5400RPM <<<--- I am thinking on buying 60GB SSD extra for OS and Adobe Programs
17.2'' Screen 1600x900
Price: 799€
HP Envy 15-j011sp:
Intel i7 4700MQ 2.4 - 3.4GhZ
8GB RAM 1600mHz <<<---- I could buy 4GB extra
Nvidia GT 740M 2GB DDR3 384 Cuda Cores
1TB 5400RPM <---- I could buy 60GB SSD extra
15.6'' Screen 1920x1080
Price: 810€
So, as you saw, Two of these laptops have 740M Graphic card. Asus is parcially alluminun, but HP is totally alluminum.
Do you think these two are good for edit videos from my DSLR camera? As I said, I don't care how much time it takes to render movie. What is most important to me is editing smooth experience.
Thank you!

Antique_Angel said:
Hello there,
Basically I have DSLR Camera (Canon 600D) which I use to film in Full HD (1080P 50fps) for my movies (short plays and medium plays).
So, I am thinking to buy a laptop with main porpouse to edit my videos in Premiere CS6 and After Effects CS6 and I would like to ask you guys if you can help me choose one. Maximum I could spend is 1000€.
So, I don't care how much time my laptop will take to export movies, but what is most important to me is smooth editing ( fast pre-rendering). I know that pre-render / in software render uses Nvidia CUDA cores to acelerate the process.
I choosed these two laptops:
ASUS K750JB:
Intel i7 4700HQ 2.4 - 3.4GhZ
12GB RAM 1600mHz
Nvidia GT 740M 2GB DDR3 384 Cuda Cores <<< ---- can this one do the job done?
1TB 5400RPM <<<--- I am thinking on buying 60GB SSD extra for OS and Adobe Programs
17.2'' Screen 1600x900
Price: 799€
HP Envy 15-j011sp:
Intel i7 4700MQ 2.4 - 3.4GhZ
8GB RAM 1600mHz <<<---- I could buy 4GB extra
Nvidia GT 740M 2GB DDR3 384 Cuda Cores
1TB 5400RPM <---- I could buy 60GB SSD extra
15.6'' Screen 1920x1080
Price: 810€
So, as you saw, Two of these laptops have 740M Graphic card. Asus is parcially alluminun, but HP is totally alluminum.
Do you think these two are good for edit videos from my DSLR camera? As I said, I don't care how much time it takes to render movie. What is most important to me is editing smooth experience.
Thank you!
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From my experience definitely get the asus laptop with an ssd. (Much higher quality build)
You could also use an external screen like your tv as long it is 1920x1080. (The asus laptop is not 1080p)
If ^this is an issue then look for a model of asus that has an internal 1080p screen.
The Hp laptops I found to be extremely horribly cooled.
Also try to get an ssd with mlc nand so it asts longer.

[Q] looking for an android TV device

im looking for a new android TV device to replace my wii i use now for streaming media (netflix, hulu, etc).. i want something that can run any android app, easily install third party applications, has enough performance to emulate N64 and PS1 games with the ability to stream PC and high level emulators from my gaming PC.. my router has gigabit LAN and N750 dual band
so my budget is about $75, within this budget i have been able to find the google nexus player using a quad core 64 bit 1.8ghz atom, 1 gig ram, and powervr 6 gpu, no ethernet, and 802.11AC wifi.. ive had issues with some android apps not working all that well on x86 architecture so im not sure if the atom will cause issues with some third party apps, and id like a device thats rooted/unlocked without breaking the warranty (ive had bad luck with low quality ASUS products, multiple ASUS devices failing)
another device i found is various "M8" devices which all seem to have the same specs, a cortex A9 quad core 2ghz processor, 8-core mali 450 GPU, 2 gigs of RAM, though seemingly only ABGN wifi and 10/100 ethernet.. so the downsides on this is the graphics arent as good, network isnt as good, but it does have more RAM and these devices seem to already support third party apps and being rooted
which of these options would be best for what i need it to do?.. and are there any other options i should consider?

You can try to find some solutions on Amazon or eBay, there are always so many good products on it. Besides, I know one brand named Loctek, you can search for that and maybe helpful.

rachel lee said:
You can try to find some solutions on Amazon or eBay, there are always so many good products on it. Besides, I know one brand named Loctek, you can search for that and maybe helpful.
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well, if i want some emulator capabilities and game streaming, im probably going to want something capable of opengl ES 3, mali 450 no matter how many cores is only ES 2.0

browsing around on amazon a bit to see what i could find.. i found a few devices, all with 1.8ghz cortex A17 processors, 2 gigs of RAM, and mali T768 GPUs.. and they seem to also have gigabit LAN (since my box will be less than 3 feet from, or maybe even underneath my router, this is more important than fast wifi
so... nexus player with a 1.8ghz quad core 64 bit atom processor, 1 gig of RAM, powerVR 6 GPU, no ethernet
or... off-brand player with 1.7ghz quad core 32 bit cortex A17 CPU, 2 gigs of RAM, and mali T764 GPU and gigabit ethernet
amazon-com/Vensmile-TM-Q8-Hardware-Decoding/dp/B00P69R4JA/ref=sr_1_76?s=tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1434123965&sr=1-76&keywords=android+tv&refinements=p_36%3A7000-10000
amazon-com/Q8-Cortex-a17-Android-Antenna-Bluetooth/dp/B00UCRNUZ8/ref=sr_1_82?s=tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1434123965&sr=1-82&keywords=android+tv&refinements=p_36%3A7000-10000
amazon-com/DIAOTEC-Cortex-A17-Mali-T764-Bluetooth-dual-band/dp/B00NQ9VOFW/ref=sr_1_63?s=tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1434123199&sr=1-63&keywords=android+tv&refinements=p_36%3A7000-10000

anyone have an opinion on these options?

i guess no one has any experience with these products?

Im in the same boat.. But in Canada.
Check fasttech.com also
See the pcduino or raspberry pi 2 also..
Im holding out for a minix x8h

Tegra K1 Chip

Hi all,
I have a nvidia shield and it was a beast with gaming and graphics. I have it lying around and I have been shopping for an external graphics card online when a crazy idea struck me. Is it possible to use my old shield tablet as an external graphics card. The tegra k1 has a lot of power and I wanted to know if I could use it for gaming on my windows laptop. The intel hd 620 graphics is trash.
Thanks!

No it is not possible also yes this tablet has powerful graphics but in comparison to the Intel 620 gpu it really isn't. The whole external gpu thing for laptops is terrible anyway all the implementations kinda suck lots of latency between external gpu And laptop...
The gpu in the k1 is more or less equal to a 550ti

Ok thanks for letting me know. Also thanks for the analogy of the tegra k1 and the gtx 550ti. I'll buy a laptop with a 960m or something next time. Apparently the 550ti is way faster and better at rendering and displaying graphics. The benchmarks of the gtx 550ti are way better than the ones of the Intel hd 620 graphics despite the fact that it's from 2011!

K1 has 192 cuda cores and generally runs at 540mhz, may boost higher, i have seen it go up to 700ish mhz. Next thing to think about is that gpu generally has GDDR5, K1 uses the system ram wich probably is somekind of LDDR3 at low clock speeds (aka less bandwith)... So its hard to compare

It would be nice to see a 949mx in a case with ventilation or something that could connect via thunderbolt 3 as an external gpu.

Advice: MXQ PRO 4K VS scishion v99 Hero?

Hero buying advice needed: MXQ PRO 4K VS Scishion V99? New to android boxes, I'm from London and it seems like there are some boxes which aren't available on UK sites for some reason, so was hoping this is the right place to get advice on the boxes I am looking at.
I am looking to stream content in 1080p (I'm happy with the resolution so don't plan on buying a new tv just yet) and started off looking at cheap £15 boxes on ebay which have 1GB of RAM thinking it would be good enough to stream 1080p. But since I am looking for the best value per £ I decided to look at boxes around the £45 mark:
- £46 SCISHION V99 - hero 64Bit Octa Core Android 5.1 (BT4.0 Dual WiFi) 4GB RAM+32GB TV Box EU, Octa Core,1.5GHz CPU RK3368, GPU PowerVR G6110, Processor ARM Cortex A53
- £45 H96 MAX - H2 TV Box RK3328 Android 7.1 (2.4G + 5G Wi-Fi BT 4.0 4K) 4G RAM+32GB UK PLUG, Quad Core CPU Cortex A53, GPU Mali-450, Processor RK3328.
- £46 MXR PRO 4K 4GB RAM + 32G 64Bit Android 7.1 Quad-core RK3328 2.0GHz Bluetooth Quad-core RK3328 64-bit Cortex A53 and Mali-450 GPU.
- I was also considering: £23 M8S PRO W Android 7.1 Smart TV Box Amlogic S-905W 2GB+16GB Mali-450 4K WIFI OTA, max up to 2.0Ghz, but the price has been varying a bit. I would still consider it if it is better value though (and if it came back down in price a bit) due to it being up to 2.0Ghz? Is 2GB RAM enough to smoothly play 1080p?
1) Should I go for the SCISHION V99 due to the octa core to futureproof? From what I've read no apps take advantage of octa core. Would it help with streaming 1080p? Or should I go for the MXR pro because the seller seems to be saying it is up to 2.0 GHz (although when I googled the chip it said 1.5 GHz?) Help needed with pros and cons, as well as discussion on the GPU/CPU power comparisons?
2) The V99 only has Android 5.1, does that mean eventually all apps will stop being compatible, making the box obsolete? Is there no way whatsoever to upgrade to latest android?
3) I am looking to use as a back up as a mini PC, would I be able to plug in a normal PC USB keyboard and mouse or am I restricted to wireless?
4) If that is the case, I was looking at this and again need advice if it these type of products work well: Black Wireless Keyboard 2.4G Touchpad Handheld Keyboard for PC Android TV UK | eBay
5) These type of small Chinese manufacturers are said to not release updates to firmware (as opposed to amazon fire, chromecast etc) but what does this mean practically speaking? How is this different to being able to update the android version for example?