I've been bouncing back and forth between oxygen os and cmos12. Os12 treated me really well but I just wanted the stock look. I don't really tweak too much except kernel wise. With that being said, since oxygen I based in aosp, which kernels run well or does the cm thing not matter anymore with kernels? I know there the whole debate of caf or cm kernels conflicting but just looking for someone more knowledgeable to answer. Thanks in advance.
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I've been bouncing back and forth between oxygen os and cmos12. Os12 treated me really well but I just wanted the stock look. I don't really tweak too much except kernel wise. With that being said, since oxygen I based in aosp, which kernels run well or does the cm thing not matter anymore with kernels? I know there the whole debate of caf or cm kernels conflicting but just looking for someone more knowledgeable to answer. Thanks in advance.
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As far as I know there are no custom kernels that are compatible with Oxygen. They released the kernel source a per their obligation with the GPL but it's incomplete so no devs have been able to develop any kernels to suit.
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As far as I know there are no custom kernels that are compatible with Oxygen. They released the kernel source a per their obligation with the GPL but it's incomplete so no devs have been able to develop any kernels to suit.
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Thanks for the reply. I saw that Boeffla was working on one and that he got one booted. Still needs some work according to him but we should be getting one from him soon I hope.
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As far as I know there are no custom kernels that are compatible with Oxygen. They released the kernel source a per their obligation with the GPL but it's incomplete so no devs have been able to develop any kernels to suit.
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My time is limited. I haven't even had time to put the details on XDA but here's my custom kernel for Oxygen, Technecium Kernel.
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/kernel-technecium-for-oxygen.305561/
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this is my 2.6.27 source for eclair builds of android. this has been a long time project with lots of help from some great friends. i consider this a community kernel so all are welcomed to it, to use in their builds or what not. all thats asked is for all who use it, to give credit for using this source. just as u would for using anyone elses work. thats just to be fair to those who help maintain this kernel.
thanx:
maejrep
flipz
quietblongs
phhusson
MrPippy
tmzt
bzo
and if i forgot u ill add u later
current commits:
-msm_hw3d support for Donut and Eclair builds (ported patches made by phhusson and MrPippy)
-synaptics touch driver (backported from .29)
-msm_camera (backported from .29 by maejrep)not yet working
-compcache sources
-overclocking and the ability to scale all current freqs (major thanx to phhuddson, bzo, and maejrep for all the help)
-backported ext4 support
-fixed freq tables to show correct clock speeds
-backported BFS (Brain **** Scheduler) version 316
new commits and patches are welcomed. please submit them for review.
http://github.com/toastcfh/htc-2.6.27-heroc
Enjoy
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Good job Hopefully these fixes make it into all the awesome ROMs out there (yours included)
So this is the much anticipated OpenGL and Multitouch?
I actually grabbed the source from github /jhansche/htc-2.6.27-heroc last night. Got it compiled and running and I have to say it works nicely. Loving the OpenGL, but especially the multi-touch!
You guys are awesome. Thank you for all your hard work!
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So this is the much anticipated OpenGL and Multitouch?
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Sure is. This is the code base that got me the highest-on-Hero-so-far 29.9fps bench on neocore that I posted a screenshot of in his thread.
Amazing work guys
damn it I really need to get a linux setup so I can compile the kernels. I WANT THIS!!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!
Hope this gets incorporated soon into the latest 2.0.1/2.1 AOSP ROMs...also is this compatible with Gumbo's Kernel?
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Hope this gets incorporated soon into the latest 2.0.1/2.1 AOSP ROMs...also is this compatible with Gumbo's Kernel?
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this is a kernel it is not a rom.
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Hope this gets incorporated soon into the latest 2.0.1/2.1 AOSP ROMs...also is this compatible with Gumbo's Kernel?
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i'm pretty sure that this is a kernel, so your question's a bit confusing. maybe i'm just delirious?
I know its a kernel dude....still it can get incorporated into those ROMs builds like everyone has been waiting to do so...
What I'm saying is that with this now the ROM makers can get OpenGL and Multitouch on their ROM releases, something everyone has been waiting for.
soooo who wants to be so nice as to compile this to zip so people can flash it
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I know its a kernel dude....still it can get incorporated into those ROMs builds like everyone has been waiting to do so...
What I'm saying is that with this now the ROM makers can get OpenGL and Multitouch on their ROM releases, something everyone has been waiting for.
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yes that is true but you also asked if it was compatable with gbhils kernel that is why it was a little confusing.
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soooo who wants to be so nice as to compile this to zip so people can flash it
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lol I wanst going to be the one to ask but I was kinda hoping someone would.
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I know its a kernel dude....still it can get incorporated into those ROMs builds like everyone has been waiting to do so...
What I'm saying is that with this now the ROM makers can get OpenGL and Multitouch on their ROM releases, something everyone has been waiting for.
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Yes, this codebase (the last few days' commits at least) will enable hw3d and multitouch, and can be applied to any .27 kernel that is based on the htc-heroc-2.6.27 code that HTC released (which I should hope is all of them )
And yes, any kernel can be integrated into a ROM, as long as the ROM doesn't rely on custom kernel changes (e.g., squashfs is not enabled in this codebase, but if the developer already has squashfs in his own kernel codebase, he can apply these latest commits to his code, and compile a new kernel with both squashfs and gl+multutouch support, if that's what his ROM requires)
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yes that is true but you also asked if it was compatable with gbhils kernel that is why it was a little confusing.
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Yea I'm no tech guy/developer...just asking if on a ROM a dev could include this as well as the ability to setcpu which is available by way of Gumbo's kernel.
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lol I wanst going to be the one to ask but I was kinda hoping someone would.
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im excited so i had to go for it
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lol I wanst going to be the one to ask but I was kinda hoping someone would.
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You can't add just a kernel to an update.zip and flash it -- kernel gets combined into the boot.img, which is included in the update.zip for every ROM. boot.img also has the stuff that goes into / (like init.rc scripts), and so not every ROM will be compatible with the same boot.img, and you can't just flash a boot.img by itself via zip (you can via flash_image in recovery, but still, some ROMs require the boot.img that it was designed for, due to init ramdisk )
So, this is more something for the ROM developers and the not-so-faint of heart. In reality, it's not that hard to build the boot.img, and you can actually unzip your favorite ROM's zip, unpack the boot.img, then rebuild a new boot.img using that ROM's initrd and your own custom kernel, then flash just the boot.img using flash_image, and it won't even require a wipe. That's again assuming the ROM doesn't rely on anything custom in the kernel it was released with.
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Yea I'm no tech guy/developer...just asking if on a ROM a dev could include this as well as the ability to setcpu which is available by way of Gumbo's kernel.
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ok I see what you where asking now majrep already answered most of it but yeah I belive that they could get the setcpu thing going in this kernel.
Hey guys,
I know we have been using mocked up kernels for the sense 3.0 shoot ports and they have for the most part been stunning. I see HTC release the source code for the kernels for numerous recent devices
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-r...ncluding-evo-3d-sensation-4g-and-incredible-2
Not sure if any of this could be helpful in building a more stable kernel. If it is and any of the Dev's come up with a new one and need testing, send me a PM and i will be glad to help.
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Hey guys,
I know we have been using mocked up kernels for the sense 3.0 shoot ports and they have for the most part been stunning. I see HTC release the source code for the kernels for numerous recent devices
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-r...ncluding-evo-3d-sensation-4g-and-incredible-2
Not sure if any of this could be helpful in building a more stable kernel. If it is and any of the Dev's come up with a new one and need testing, send me a PM and i will be glad to help.
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The only kernel source of real use, or that we can really use at all, is the Thunderbolt kernel. Until we get a GB kernel source release, nothing great will happen.
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The only kernel source of real use, or that we can really use at all, is the Thunderbolt kernel. Until we get a GB kernel source release, nothing great will happen.
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"This is a minimalistic Thunderbolt kernel based on the HTC Desire HD source (ace-2.6.35.10), then upgraded to 2.6.35.13. It also includes some code from 2.6.36.x and 3.0rc6 (that's right you read correctly). A lot of the mods in my kernel are fairly experimental and not typically done by other kernel devs, so I would not get too upset if things don't work sometimes."
From Imoseyon's GB Sense kernel thread. I'm not really following what you're saying here.
i had read a couple of posts here and there on how good faux kernel is, on "how smooth it runs or that it gets good battery life" but my question is, what is a kernel? is it only to over/under clock or is it something more that i am missing? what do i need to run it, (requirements you may say) ? i am on weapon g2x 3.0
In a nutshell (from the way i've always understood it) a kernel is basically the bridge of communication between your applications and the phone's hardware. There are no "requirements" to run it on your phone because it's already on there. Without it, you're smartphone would not be functional. These other kernels you hear about are custom made kernels. Kernels can be replaced by flashing one on top of the other (just like a ROM).
For more reading: Kernel
Even more basic understanding. Software for your hardware. If you are a car guy...ECU?
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In a nutshell (from the way i've always understood it) a kernel is basically the bridge of communication between your applications and the phone's hardware. There are no "requirements" to run it on your phone because it's already on there. Without it, you're smartphone would not be functional. These other kernels you hear about are custom made kernels. Kernels can be replaced by flashing one on top of the other (just like a ROM).
For more reading: Kernel
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Even more basic understanding. Software for your hardware. If you are a car guy...ECU?
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Thanks for the answer guys
So, can you mix kernels with custom roms or do they work as a package? If someone comes out with a kernel with a particular feature or fix, can I flash that on my phone to enhance or will it not be compatible with my rom?
thanks
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So, can you mix kernels with custom roms or do they work as a package? If someone comes out with a kernel with a particular feature or fix, can I flash that on my phone to enhance or will it not be compatible with my rom?
thanks
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There are kernels designed for certain ROMs. We have kernels for CM7 & AOSP Based ROMs, and kernels for 2.3.3/2.2.2 based ROMs.
IMO Fauxs kernels are the best
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shanipaqman said:
So, can you mix kernels with custom roms or do they work as a package? If someone comes out with a kernel with a particular feature or fix, can I flash that on my phone to enhance or will it not be compatible with my rom?
thanks
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Yes you can. The kernel is sort of like the engine of your car. There's certain kernels that only work with CM7, or stock, but they'll usually say in the description.
Hello community,
I am a rookie in the subject of kernels/roms and I would love to have some precious help from any1 that knows even the smallest of information. I recently installed CM kernel and CM nightly 0422. The thing is, I read in many forums (in here as well) that there is a kernel that can boost battery life to its max, Franco Kernel. But I also read that it is somehow incompatible with CM 10+ and causes bootloop if you install it with CM already in phone. What I can't understand is why can't I just simply replace CM kernel (like stock kernel was replaced by CM kernel) by Franco Kernel? What is the fact that I am missing?
ALL (and I mean ALL) help will be highly appreaciated, thanks for your time
T.
f33d_me_plz said:
Hello community,
I am a rookie in the subject of kernels/roms and I would love to have some precious help from any1 that knows even the smallest of information. I recently installed CM kernel and CM nightly 0422. The thing is, I read in many forums (in here as well) that there is a kernel that can boost battery life to its max, Franco Kernel. But I also read that it is somehow incompatible with CM 10+ and causes bootloop if you install it with CM already in phone. What I can't understand is why can't I just simply replace CM kernel (like stock kernel was replaced by CM kernel) by Franco Kernel? What is the fact that I am missing?
ALL (and I mean ALL) help will be highly appreaciated, thanks for your time
T.
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first off.. there is no magic pill to give your phone for battery life. battery life mostly depends on your personal usage, your personal setup, your apps used, and most importantly the quality of your phone/data connection. everything else is minor for battery life, including kernels.
cm uses CAF as its base now, they went away from aosp(like most kernels here). so everything that is aosp based is not compatible with cm anymore. franco kernel is aosp based(most kernels are). there are a few kernels that are CAF based built just for cm and cm based roms.
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first off.. there is no magic pill to give your phone for battery life. battery life mostly depends on your personal usage, your personal setup, your apps used, and most importantly the quality of your phone/data connection. everything else is minor for battery life, including kernels.
cm uses CAF as its base now, they went away from aosp(like most kernels here). so everything that is aosp based is not compatible with cm anymore. franco kernel is aosp based(most kernels are). there are a few kernels that are CAF based built just for cm and cm based roms.
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Thanks for your time and your answer
First of all, I know for myself that there is no magic pill about battery life, I just read in too many threads that FK added a good portion of battery life (with same use of phone like when it had CM) ! Moreover it allows you to overclock (my) Nexus5 beyond 2.2GHz, something that CM doesn't allow you too (I know that overclocking kills battery, I just want to test something). What I don't understand is how can FK mess up with CM when both are different kernels and by installing FK over CM means that FK replaces CM. There is no CM in the end, only FK. Or not...? What have I understood wrong?
Thanks again
f33d_me_plz said:
Thanks for your time and your answer
First of all, I know for myself that there is no magic pill about battery life, I just read in too many threads that FK added a good portion of battery life (with same use of phone like when it had CM) ! Moreover it allows you to overclock (my) Nexus5 beyond 2.2GHz, something that CM doesn't allow you too (I know that overclocking kills battery, I just want to test something). What I don't understand is how can FK mess up with CM when both are different kernels and by installing FK over CM means that FK replaces CM. There is no CM in the end, only FK. Or not...? What have I understood wrong?
Thanks again
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yes, franco would replace cm kernel if all worked right. but what you are doing is replacing cm kernel with franco kernel, but cm rom stays on your phone. franco kernel is incompatible with cm rom. since franco is aosp and cm is caf, your phone would never boot up all the way.
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yes, franco would replace cm kernel if all worked right. but what you are doing is replacing cm kernel with franco kernel, but cm rom stays on your phone. franco kernel is incompatible with cm rom. since franco is aosp and cm is caf, your phone would never boot up all the way.
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So, if I am getting your point right, since one is aosp and the other is caf THAT is the reason why CM doesn't uninstall and will exist together with franco? Is there a way to permanently delete CM in order to install franco? Maybe to go back to stock kernel then install FK?
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So, if I am getting your point right, since one is aosp and the other is caf THAT is the reason why CM doesn't uninstall and will exist together with franco? Is there a way to permanently delete CM in order to install franco? Maybe to go back to stock kernel then install FK?
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its not about the kernel, its about the rom. they are different things. when you flash a kernel(any), it replaces the kernel thats on your phone(kernels come with roms, cm kernel with cm rom). cm rom includes cm kernel, both are built from caf source. franco kernel is aosp, it is not compatible with cm rom. it has nothing to do with cm kernel, it replaces cm kernel when flashed. but you will never boot up your phone because it isnt compatible with cm rom.
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its not about the kernel, its about the rom. they are different things. when you flash a kernel(any), it replaces the kernel thats on your phone(kernels come with roms, cm kernel with cm rom). cm rom includes cm kernel, both are built from caf source. franco kernel is aosp, it is not compatible with cm rom. it has nothing to do with cm kernel, it replaces cm kernel when flashed. but you will never boot up your phone because it isnt compatible with cm rom.
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ok, finally I got it, thanks to you Last question... is there a way to get FK now or am I just locked to caf due to CM "for life"? which way (if there is any at all) in your opinion is the best way to go from CM to FK? maybe go back to stock rom/kernel then flash FK? Will this work?
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ok, finally I got it, thanks to you Last question... is there a way to get FK now or am I just locked to caf due to CM "for life"? which way (if there is any at all) in your opinion is the best way to go from CM to FK? maybe go back to stock rom/kernel then flash FK? Will this work?
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no, they arent compatible at all. you can not use franco kernel with any cm based roms. you can change roms and use franco kernel with it, any aosp rom or even the stock rom. but cm isnt compatible at all with franko kernel.
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no, they arent compatible at all. you can not use franco kernel with any cm based roms. you can change roms and use franco kernel with it, any aosp rom or even the stock rom. but cm isnt compatible at all with franko kernel.
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Thanks man !!
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Thanks man !!
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If your looking for a good CAF kernel to run with a PAC or CM based ROM. I'd recommend the ElementalX CAF kernel. It's very stable, rich features, great performance and great battery life. Make sure to read the OP for directions and if you decide to try it out download the ElementalX R38 version with the aromma installer (not the express version) As with running any new kernel run it for a few days minimum to allow for it by on settle in.
There is another option for you to explore too - http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/development/cm11-users-heres-how-aospnon-caf-t2626961
This allows you to run a script that will basically De-CAF your rom and allow you to run a AOSP kernel on CM11ROMs.. Be sure to read the OP. It works with many CM11 and CM based ROMs, but not on all the newest versions. Definitely worth checking out.
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If your looking for a good CAF kernel to run with a PAC or CM based ROM. I'd recommend the ElementalX CAF kernel. It's very stable, rich features, great performance and great battery life. Make sure to read the OP for directions and if you decide to try it out download the ElementalX R38 version with the aromma installer (not the express version) As with running any new kernel run it for a few days minimum to allow for it by on settle in.
There is another option for you to explore too - http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/development/cm11-users-heres-how-aospnon-caf-t2626961
This allows you to run a script that will basically De-CAF your rom and allow you to run a AOSP kernel on CM11ROMs.. Be sure to read the OP. It works with many CM11 and CM based ROMs, but not on all the newest versions. Definitely worth checking out.
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Thanks for your interest and time! I will sure check both your ROM and the De-CAF script soon and post my opinion/experience ! For newbies like me that are reading this post, here is a quite enbrightening thread about CAF and qualcomm processors (although it's Reddit, it's quite explanatory).
Peace!
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f33d_me_plz said:
Thanks for your interest and time! I will sure check both your ROM and the De-CAF script soon and post my opinion/experience ! For newbies like me that are reading this post, here is a quite enbrightening thread about CAF and qualcomm processors (although it's Reddit, it's quite explanatory).
Peace!
T.
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Sorry, I forgot to paste the link cheers ! http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1rt9md/eli5_what_is_caf_why_is_cm_going_caf_affects_the/
when i was using lollipop i always went with ak kernel but since ak kernel stopped supporting oneplus one when marshmallow roms began to come i became a bit confused as to which kernel i should use.
so i did a bit of searching with kernels that existed. and the kernels i found that i could use was
1. Sultan
2. Tyr Kernel
3. Andy Kernel
4. Radioactive Kernel
so i was wondering what kernel is the best alternative to ak kernel and if so does that kernel have any problems which makes so i should avoid it?
p.s im open to discussions and even having an idea of what i should do will probly help more then it hurts
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when i was using lollipop i always went with ak kernel but since ak kernel stopped supporting oneplus one when marshmallow roms began to come i became a bit confused as to which kernel i should use.
so i did a bit of searching with kernels that existed. and the kernels i found that i could use was
1. Sultan
2. Tyr Kernel
3. Andy Kernel
4. Radioactive Kernel
so i was wondering what kernel is the best alternative to ak kernel and if so does that kernel have any problems which makes so i should avoid it?
p.s im open to discussions and even having an idea of what i should do will probly help more then it hurts
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It's pretty simple actually CAF kernels usually stated in the title of the kernel thread work on CAF ROMs e.g. Sultan, and any ROM that states CAF in its title works with these kernels.
CM kernel such as Lightning, Boeffla and Andy all state specifically CM12/13 in the thread title and those work with stock CM and ROMs derived from CM source and kernel trees.
Finally Omni based kernels only one works properly (Donkey Kernel) also states Omni in the thread title.
The common denominator is that they all clearly state in the thread title what they are for so there's nothing to discuss on which ones to be used for which ROM. In regards to quality that's a bit trickier as we all like different things in a kernel and personally I'm a big fan of Boeffla when I'm on CM13 cause it works great and the app is very intuitive. I've also tried Andy kernel and its got a good mix of features. I'm on Omni 5.1.1 nightlies so I'm on the stock kernel but when I move back to Marshmallow I can update on kernels
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It's pretty simple actually CAF kernels usually stated in the title of the kernel thread work on CAF ROMs e.g. Sultan, and any ROM that states CAF in its title works with these kernels.
CM kernel such as Lightning, Boeffla and Andy all state specifically CM12/13 in the thread title and those work with stock CM and ROMs derived from CM source and kernel trees.
Finally Omni based kernels only one works properly (Donkey Kernel) also states Omni in the thread title.
The common denominator is that they all clearly state in the thread title what they are for so there's nothing to discuss on which ones to be used for which ROM. In regards to quality that's a bit trickier as we all like different things in a kernel and personally I'm a big fan of Boeffla when I'm on CM13 cause it works great and the app is very intuitive. I've also tried Andy kernel and its got a good mix of features. I'm on Omni 5.1.1 nightlies so I'm on the stock kernel but when I move back to Marshmallow I can update on kernels
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which kernels works with which rom i already knew but i still respect the answer i got. well the main concern i had was about the quality of the roms and which roms is good for what.
It depends on what you want. For example some devs here around merge a bunch of patches to improve sth. Sometimes i dont know what they are doing. I also started with that but soon i have learned less is more. Than there are kernels with gazillion oft features to choose. Thousond hotplugs and governors etc. Than there are small and simple kernels without such experimental features close to stock. I for example dont want to tune 5 days to improve me results i like it simple. So you have 3 or more different types to choose.
1. experimental maybe unstable kernels with lots of patches
2. kernels with lots of features
3. small and simple and more stable kernel close to stock
There is no best or better kernel. Choose the one you like best.
Its your choice.
You also missed the CAF lightning Kernel built off of AK's caf kernel. It's the best kernel for CAF right now IMO. It's basically all of AK kernel's great features just updated to support CAF marshmallow and bug fixes/ latest commits. Works with synapse and all of the original AK CAF kernel profiles.