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ns4g time without a signal?

okay now today it appears my battery drain is a bit more than yesterday. according to my battery settings i have 55% time without a signal, yesterday it was like 15% but my display was taking up much more of the juice. what can cause this? seems weird to be different everyday.

snandlal said:
Post it in Q &A maybe? Ya that's it, that's your problem. Get it girl! Use those big girl brains of yours
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Members are so helpful. Pull the tampon out your backside please....
Anyway...could this have something to do with the reported radio issues? I haven't checked my tws to know if I'm effected
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Make sure your set on home only in the wireless settings. This usually solved all of my issues.
I usually also use roam control app to set on sprint only just as a backup plan haha. My tws went to zero and has stayed there since doing those two things. Ymmv though...
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I believe it's not the time without signal but the time the phone is looking for signal. As far as I understand, when the phone is looking for signal it really sucks the battery juice. So I'm not sure if putting the phone to home only is going to solve it. But it's definitely got a lot to do with the radio they are having issues with. Give it some time and they'll get it updated. They already confirmed that they are working on a fix.

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I had a Nexus too, and in places where my Evo has 0% TWS (time without signal), the Nexus has 50%, and battery life is very short.
I think I tried Home only and the TWS stayed the same.

fixxxer2008 said:
okay now today it appears my battery drain is a bit more than yesterday. according to my battery settings i have 55% time without a signal, yesterday it was like 15% but my display was taking up much more of the juice. what can cause this? seems weird to be different everyday.
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As you know very well (since you post the same stuff every day on multiple venues), the NS4G has problems with its radios. Whether they are hardware or software is unknown at present. They may or may not be solvable.
I repeat, the problems are *known*, and there is no point in having the same person repeat them every single day!
Didn't you say you were returning the phone anyways? Just go ahead and do it.

To the mods:
From his profile, Fixx is a member of long-standing and apparently has been helpful in the past. However, his current non-stop posts about NS4G signal problems have passed the threshold for spam. Yes, the problems are serious and real, but to post multiple times daily (under different guises) about the exact same problem is just spamming.

Battery life worse since 2.11.605.5

Am I the only one who's got worse battery life since the update?
I keep my brightness set low, bluetooth and GPS are off. My mail and Twitter are set to update manually. Weather updates every four hours, and I use only a few widgets (the weather clock and a few that toggle settings). I've got a solid LTE signal.
Before the update (and even after the 2.11.605.3 Gingerbread update that I'd got before Verizon and HTC pulled it), I could take my phone off the charger when I woke up, use it moderately, and still be in the green when I'd put it back on the charger at bed time. If I used it a bit more, maybe I'd be in the yellow, but I'd never had a problem going 18 hours or so on a single full charge.
Since the update, though, my phone can't get through a day without recharging in the middle. Even if I don't use it. Just sitting on my desk, untouched, I'm losing about 11% an hour.

Chances are the phone will re adjust through battery cycles. Also there are power saving options now if you go to the power setting. The efficiency setting works very well. Other than that I would wait a little longer before going about any tinkering.

And one more thing. You don't have a task manager do you? If so get rid of it. Android is incredibly efficient on managing its ram and tasks.
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LTE? You're running 4G all the time? I wouldn't make it past late afternoon if I didn't toggle the LTE off most of the time and use CMDA (3G).

I'm stock and also having horrible battery life since the last update. Like 5 hours worth of battery with little use before I'm in the yellow. I'm giving up on 4G and switching over to 3G for good... maybe that will last longer as it did in the past
I'm tempted to do a factory reset

mdeblaz said:
I'm stock and also having horrible battery life since the last update. Like 5 hours worth of battery with little use before I'm in the yellow. I'm giving up on 4G and switching over to 3G for good... maybe that will last longer as it did in the past
I'm tempted to do a factory reset
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If my assumption is wrong on your knowledge of factory resets, i apologize and i'm not trying to insult your knowledge of these phones. That being said, factory reset won't allow you to revert to pre 605.5 software, as it just wipes the data completely and you stay on the same 605.5 you are on. If you are rooted already, make a backup and flash back an older release of the software that you are happy with. If you aren't rooted, now is a good time and then to revert back to past software haha

Hmm..sounds like someone should get an extended battery.I have one and never had a problem before or after gb.
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nbdysreal said:
If my assumption is wrong on your knowledge of factory resets, i apologize and i'm not trying to insult your knowledge of these phones. That being said, factory reset won't allow you to revert to pre 605.5 software, as it just wipes the data completely and you stay on the same 605.5 you are on. If you are rooted already, make a backup and flash back an older release of the software that you are happy with. If you aren't rooted, now is a good time and then to revert back to past software haha
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Insult not taken... I'm well aware of what a factory reset is. And I don't care to root - been rooted before. Battery was much better before... so I figure its probably an app causing the drain - not playing nice with the update. A reset could remedy that.
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holla420 said:
Hmm..sounds like someone should get an extended battery.I have one and never had a problem before or after gb.
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Unfortunately, I don't care to have that over grown tumor on the back of my phone. My battery has been fine before so I know it's possible to use the stock battery and have it last throughout the day.

Lol well suit urself.I don't kno why a lot of people hate it.I mean besides the phat ass on the back it last 16+ hrz.but Wat ever floats ur boat
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And one more thing. You don't have a task manager do you?
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Nope. Never have, never will. I'll give it a few more days and see if, as you suggest, the battery doesn't readjust.
LTE? You're running 4G all the time? I wouldn't make it past late afternoon if I didn't toggle the LTE off most of the time and use CMDA (3G).
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Yep. The area I'm in (just east of Pittsburgh) seems to have good coverage. I've never had to manually turn off LTE, and until the last update, I've never had trouble making it through the day.
Hmm..sounds like someone should get an extended battery.I have one and never had a problem before or after gb.
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Unfortunately, I don't care to have that over grown tumor on the back of my phone. My battery has been fine before so I know it's possible to use the stock battery and have it last throughout the day.
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I'm with mdeblaz. Getting through the day on the stock battery hasn't been an issue until the update. And I'll buy a new phone before I buy a ginormous battery for this one. I've had a couple of HTC phones now, and the Thunderbolt has been the most problematic for me. Maybe I'll sell it back to Verizon and get the Rezound. If the battery issue doesn't clear up on it's own, it's either going to be new phone or (for the first time since I started using Android phones) flashing a new ROM.
Anyone know a good Gingerbread ROM for the Thunderbolt that has Sense 3? I know I'm a minority, but I keep buying HTC phones because I actually like Sense.

BAMF Forever 1.09.
You may have an issue with the camera taking pics, try clearing data from the camera app. Like having a new phone for me.
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collije said:
BAMF Forever 1.09.
You may have an issue with the camera taking pics, try clearing data from the camera app. Like having a new phone for me.
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That one looks pretty good. Is LTE working in it? Is it ok to use over the current stock software? Any guides for noobs who have never even rooted, let alone installed a custom ROM?

mikeszekely said:
That one looks pretty good. Is LTE working in it? Is it ok to use over the current stock software? Any guides for noobs who have never even rooted, let alone installed a custom ROM?
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Some advice for noobs. Read read read. Do your homework. Read through the guides and walkthroughs on this forum (mainly in the development section). Learn now to root and learn how to recover BEFORE attempting to mod your phone in any way. Learn how to setup and use ADB.
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And it seem its cycling through 3g, 4g, 1x, again. Why can't HTC get this right wtf.
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As killa just said do read.
Going root is probably the only way to fix the thunderbolts stock problems.
I have had mine rooted since it was rootable and I have been loving my phone. I also use the stock battery and can get over 18 hours daily with wifi on at all times, lte and GPS when I'm not home. Those are the wonders of custom kernals and setcpu . I run AOSP but I have ran sense and Bamf forever is definitely the way to go for sense.
Good luck.
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I'm having no problems with data connectivity on 2.11.605.5 perhaps your area is having network problems...
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Issues with 2.2 update

Let me start off by saying this is my first Android phone that I've used that I actually haven't cared to root (and I started with a Nexus One).
I updated to 2.2 that ATT pushed out last week and while some things have proved, some things seem much worse.
1. Poorer battery life (drains much faster. Had 34% deplete in 3 hours and hardly used my phone)
2. Runs hot! For no apparent reason, my phone will get quite warm under the camera and the phone is simply just in my pocket getting e-mail or push notifications. Nothing crazy and no reason to get so hot (I can feel the heat through my jeans).
3. Multitasking is better but still sucks.
Anyone else having similar issues after updating?
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upyouratrix said:
Let me start off by saying this is my first Android phone that I've used that I actually haven't cared to root (and I started with a Nexus One).
I updated to 2.2 that ATT pushed out last week and while some things have proved, some things seem much worse.
1. Poorer battery life (drains much faster. Had 34% deplete in 3 hours and hardly used my phone)
2. Runs hot! For no apparent reason, my phone will get quite warm under the camera and the phone is simply just in my pocket getting e-mail or push notifications. Nothing crazy and no reason to get so hot (I can feel the heat through my jeans).
3. Multitasking is better but still sucks.
Anyone else having similar issues after updating?
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Exact opposite on my device. Take it back to ATT, have them replace it (and tell them you don't want one with the 2.2 update) and then root, unlock, and ROM it.

I'm sorry, mate, but I think your device might have some issues. This update actually made my phone much better.
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ILoveYouAll said:
I'm sorry, mate, but I think your device might have some issues. This update actually made my phone much better.
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Ditto, I feel mine is better also, no heating problems either...
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Has anyone noticed that WiFi is always searching even if the option is turned off in settings?
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kyndacrazy said:
Has anyone noticed that WiFi is always searching even if the option is turned off in settings?
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Nope. My 2.2 update has really made this phone stellar. Though, I'm taking it back so I can root/unlock/rom. Since Cleanrom is based off the official release, I'll be going that rout.
Multitasking actually works, signal/clarity is quite a bit better, and my battery life is at least twice as good as it was before the update.
Methinks you need a factory reset.

upyouratrix said:
Let me start off by saying this is my first Android phone that I've used that I actually haven't cared to root (and I started with a Nexus One).
I updated to 2.2 that ATT pushed out last week and while some things have proved, some things seem much worse.
1. Poorer battery life (drains much faster. Had 34% deplete in 3 hours and hardly used my phone)
2. Runs hot! For no apparent reason, my phone will get quite warm under the camera and the phone is simply just in my pocket getting e-mail or push notifications. Nothing crazy and no reason to get so hot (I can feel the heat through my jeans).
3. Multitasking is better but still sucks.
Anyone else having similar issues after updating?
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Yep, I was having the same exact issues along with it never shutting up about wi-fi being available even though I told it not to tell me. Ended up resetting the phone to factory and it runs like a champ now.

I am constantly getting the wifi networks are available notification after the update, which I never got before. Quite a nuisance.

+1 to the Factory Reset. Many times this will clear up the problems that start happening right after an update.

It's easier and faster to go into the battery stats and see which app is misbehaving than it is to post on the forum here.

upyouratrix said:
Let me start off by saying this is my first Android phone that I've used that I actually haven't cared to root (and I started with a Nexus One).
I updated to 2.2 that ATT pushed out last week and while some things have proved, some things seem much worse.
1. Poorer battery life (drains much faster. Had 34% deplete in 3 hours and hardly used my phone)
2. Runs hot! For no apparent reason, my phone will get quite warm under the camera and the phone is simply just in my pocket getting e-mail or push notifications. Nothing crazy and no reason to get so hot (I can feel the heat through my jeans).
3. Multitasking is better but still sucks.
Anyone else having similar issues after updating?
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I'm having the same issue. Before the update I could go all day and have 35-50% battery left depending on usage. I updated to 2.20 before going on vacation. I don't have LTE at home but where I went on vacation was LTE areas. Battery drain was 10%+ an hour. I assumed it was LTE using more power. But everything I read said that LTE wasn't that bad. Only way I could stop the drain was to put in airplane mode. I got home Friday and drain is just as bad at home.
Anyway, I'm glad I found this thread.
I don't mind doing a factory reset if it solves the problem. Question is, does it solve the issue?
Thanks.

I will have to agree with some of you and say that the update was a big improvement on a great phone! I also think that when doing an OTA update the results are going to be hit or miss. The OTA worked great for me but I installed it on top of a new, clean and unmolested copy of 1.85. I'm willing to bet that just about everyone with new issues after doing the OTA will see an improvement after doing a factory reset. Having said that I personally would not waste time doing a factory reset, I would suggest flashing the ruu. If you're going to wipe your phone might as well get the best possible outcome for your time.

Issues after 4.4.3 update

Hello guys
I just finished updating my rooted Nexus 5 to 4.4.3 and it went fine but I immidiately noticed some "problems" when I turned it on. The thing is that my touch screen is not as responsive as before 4.4.3 update. On 4.4.2 scrolling was flowy and smooth like on ice, but on 4.4.3 I got big delay (half cm of emptiness) on scrolling through gesture (apps, home or anything..) and, even worse, when I'm scrolling down my Contacts list it dials randomly due to a lagging. Is there any calibration to be done or that's it?
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It doesn't sound normal. Mine is working just as smooth as it was on 4.4.2. Have you tried wiping the phone? Do a factory reset and see.
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issues here
my battery went from 19% to 0 over night.... in airplane mode. previously, it would only use 3-4% overnight, esp with everything turned off. almost woke up late
also, im having a hard time answering phone calls. i slide to answer, it doesnt answer but its still ringing

I noticed that there is a bunch of different problems reported last two days and I have decided to wait for Google's response on all of this mess. But I must say that my phone is working better now and somehow it heals itself )) Maybe this update is about implementing some organic components
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I'm having a lot of issues with my phone.. Seems like an sd card issue. Ant app that uses memory does not work properly... Even the camera does not load...
I'm going to do a factory reset... Any way to save all settings on stock?
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I also got a big issue on 4.4.3. since the update i get sponataeuos signal dropouts especially when i travel by bus or train.
It seams the radio has problems by logging out at one cell and switch to an other cell. Also the reception/signal is very weak.
Someone noticed the same? or does anybody has a tip?
thanks in advance :good:

Are you charging your phone simultaneously or is your phone connected to a laptop? remove that and the try. lemme know.

Seadra said:
Are you charging your phone simultaneously or is your phone connected to a laptop? remove that and the try. lemme know.
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I'm always charging simultaneously

dwreck420 said:
my battery went from 19% to 0 over night.... in airplane mode. previously, it would only use 3-4% overnight, esp with everything turned off. almost woke up late
also, im having a hard time answering phone calls. i slide to answer, it doesnt answer but its still ringing
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Go to settings > apps > locate google dialer and clear cache
For battery drain, install an app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.asksven.betterbatterystats (it's free demo version is available on XDA) or https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gsamlabs.bbm
Observe your device for one day after complete charge (90+) and use it.
Using that app, you'll observe the apps/wakelocks which are causing unnecessary battery drain. Eliminate them or post screenshots here so that we can help you to solve battery drain issue.
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I'm guessing OP's problem is related to this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2643097 but this is the first time I have heard the same for Nexus 5.

First thing to do if something is broken after an OTA is factory reset to see if it is an OS bug or whether you have incompatible data and settings.
It sounds like it would be a pain to do, but you can easily backup with helium nowadays so it needn't be

rootSU said:
First thing to do if something is broken after an OTA is factory reset to see if it is an OS bug or whether you have incompatible data and settings.
It sounds like it would be a pain to do, but you can easily backup with helium nowadays so it needn't be
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+1 - Clean wipe and see, it might fix all of your issues. Hopefully it does

rootSU said:
First thing to do if something is broken after an OTA is factory reset to see if it is an OS bug or whether you have incompatible data and settings.
It sounds like it would be a pain to do, but you can easily backup with helium nowadays so it needn't be
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I didn't tried the factory reset, I went further and flashed the factory image but problems still exist [emoji15]

sworn3yes said:
I didn't tried the factory reset, I went further and flashed the factory image but problems still exist [emoji15]
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Did you flash the userdata.img? If not, your data is still there and still possibly causing the issue.

GPS not Working
Has anyone else noticed if their GPS is working or not? I was trying to use mine last night and I can see that GPS connects and it brings up the map but then never navigates or even moves from the starting point on the map. Can someone let me know if this is a new problem??? I flashed the N5_4.4.3.zip file that someone pointed me to, as I had asked for a flashable zip file to update to 4.4.3 as I still have not gotten an ota notification from T-Mobile:confused

i have a question also,
what if i like the current mono toned google dialer?
when i get this update & it updates the dialer, is it possible to un-install the dialer update to revert back to the older dialer?

rootSU said:
Did you flash the userdata.img? If not, your data is still there and still possibly causing the issue.
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Yes I did. I flashed the image with the 'flash-all.bat' method which includes it [emoji17]

[Q] Is it possible to turn of Volte?

Looking to hopefully fix this cell standby battery drain. Is it possible to turn off volte on Verizon S6?
thanks

Settings then advanced calling.
Turning it off will not help. This is a known issue.
What has worked for me is turning advanced calling off, wiped cache, turned advanced calling back on.
One time I forgot to turn volte back on and I still had the drain until I turned it on.
Let me know your results. I had to get a replacement because nothing stopped the drain on my first s6
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So I followed your advice for advanced calling and my phone is at 95% and cell standby shows 1%. Is this good?

Give it a day and post your battery stats with info on how long you were on wifi. Way too small of a sample size here to determine
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Will do. But where can I get the WiFi stats?
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That's just your estimate.
Ex: out of my total 24 hours I was on wifi for about 20.
I don't know if there's a way to know exactly how long you were connected to wifi unless you turn it off every time you leave where you are on wifi.
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So I my phones at 14% are 7hrs 16mins on battery. I was on wifi probably about 75% of the time. my cell standby is at 15%. Stats in the screen show.
Is this bad?

For reference... Almost 100% WiFi today, 50% left battery power.. Mostly phone calls today, and doing some reference look ups. I don't play games on my phone.

Having cell standby at 15% on mine. Is that to high? I was doing a lot of data transfer today over wifi. Coping files to my google drive.

rdefino said:
So I my phones at 14% are 7hrs 16mins on battery. I was on wifi probably about 75% of the time. my cell standby is at 15%. Stats in the screen show.
Is this bad?
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Yes your standby is too high. Have you done the workaround? Also what was your sot
Here's what I've been getting
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When you say workaround, do you mean wipe cache then turn on advanced calling.? I've done that and also factory reset and then the advanced calling again.
Anything else to try.
thanks

rdefino said:
When you say workaround, do you mean wipe cache then turn on advanced calling.? I've done that and also factory reset and then the advanced calling again.
Anything else to try.
thanks
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Time for a replacement device
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Bummer. So does the cell standby increase usually when on wifi most of the time?
Also, I;m rooted and I know I need to unroot before going to version, but should I unroot before calling thier tech support?

rdefino said:
Bummer. So does the cell standby increase usually when on wifi most of the time?
Also, I;m rooted and I know I need to unroot before going to version, but should I unroot before calling thier tech support?
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Most people experience it while on wifi. Some people have reported they still get the drain while not on wifi.
I never call tech support. I always walk into a corporate store. On this occasion I said I have terrible battery drain. Told them quickly it was before and after the OTA, tried a couple workarounds I found on xda. No questions asked and they ordered my replacement. Took him longer to make a minor account change (changed first name from David to Dave) than the replacement process took.
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sounds good. I'll flash back to stock and head to verizon.
thanks

rdefino said:
sounds good. I'll flash back to stock and head to verizon.
thanks
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Good luck my friend. If there's anything else I can help with let me know
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Are folks with the cell standby issue that return the phone for a new one, not seeing the issue. I guess it's a crap shoot if you get one that doesn't have the issue....right?
Just wondering if this will ever be resolved.
thanks again