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Disable LTE without custom ROM?

I have the ATT HOX and want to disable LTE due to the known issues with missed calls etc. Would it be possible to disable it through root access WITHOUT installing a custom ROM?

I'm not sure what AT&T do to their phones but can you not change it via Settings > Mobile Network > Network mode.
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thejosh86 said:
I'm not sure what AT&T do to their phones but can you not change it via Settings > Mobile Network > Network mode.
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That's how it's done on my Rogers device.. should be the same on all.

this_is_nick6 said:
That's how it's done on my Rogers device.. should be the same on all.
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Same on Telstra
Phone: HTC One XL
ROM: AOKP 4.2.1 MR1 preview w/ alloy blue theme
Launcher: Apex w/glaskart icons

Att one x doesn't have that function. Try to do it in service menu trying typing in *#*#4636#*#*
Go to phone info and scroll down. It works for me on clean Rom but not sure about stock rom

a670 said:
I have the ATT HOX and want to disable LTE due to the known issues with missed calls etc. Would it be possible to disable it through root access WITHOUT installing a custom ROM?
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What known missed calls issue? What would LTE have to do with missed calls? LTE on AT&T is data only. It doesn't do anything with calls. You can dial *#*#4636#*#* and try to set it to gsm only or something.
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Believe me I have tried. It's not possible. But ik you said you didn't want to, but you really should look into custom ROMs. There's some that are basically stock with just better battery

Except for ATT. Its a well documented fact that they have it disabled. Any changes you make revert back to default.
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That's how it's done on my Rogers device.. should be the same on all.
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Its a fairly well known issue with ATT and LTE phones.
As far as I can tell since LTE IS data only it has a hard time receiving calls when its connected to the LTE network. I think it has something to do with only having 1 antenna and it cant communicate on voice and data at the same time. Or, maybe not.:silly: All I know is that when my phone is connected to LTE I will not receive phone calls. All calls will ring a few times and then go to voice mail. I eventually get voice message notifications when the phone switches out of LTE.
Any changes made in the field test mode do not stick. Thank you very much ATT.
pside15 said:
What known missed calls issue? What would LTE have to do with missed calls? LTE on AT&T is data only. It doesn't do anything with calls. You can dial *#*#4636#*#* and try to set it to gsm only or something.
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a670 said:
Its a fairly well known issue with ATT and LTE phones.
As far as I can tell since LTE IS data only it has a hard time receiving calls when its connected to the LTE network. I think it has something to do with only having 1 antenna and it cant communicate on voice and data at the same time. Or, maybe not.:silly: All I know is that when my phone is connected to LTE I will not receive phone calls. All calls will ring a few times and then go to voice mail. I eventually get voice message notifications when the phone switches out of LTE.
Any changes made in the field test mode do not stick.
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I've had 3 different LTE phones on AT&T and never had issues with missed calls and I'm constantly on a LTE connection. My phone kicks to hspa+ right before I receive a call and then it rings. Goes back to LTE about 30 seconds after I hang up. The only thing I can think of is that you are on LTE only in the field test mode thing. That will definitely give you call problems. What does it say that you are connected to when you go into the phone information menu?
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pside15 said:
I've had 3 different LTE phones on AT&T and never had issues with missed calls and I'm constantly on a LTE connection. My phone kicks to hspa+ right before I receive a call and then it rings. Goes back to LTE about 30 seconds after I hang up. The only thing I can think of is that you are on LTE only in the field test mode thing. That will definitely give you call problems. What does it say that you are connected to when you go into the phone information menu?
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I've had a few LTE phones too but I can confirm that this is an issue with AT&T and the HOX. (At least in certain areas.) The phone is *supposed* to do what you said and switch off LTE when a call comes in but that doesn't always happen. I've noticed it the most at my office where I usually have 4 bars of "4G LTE" or one or two bars of "4G". I'll have a long period of time with no incoming calls or texts and then when I make a call (and the phone switches to "4G") I get the backlog of voicemails and text messages. Hard resets haven't helped and AT&T refuses to admit that it's a problem.

Heres a summary of what I have found:
1 Being in field test mode does not affect incoming calls.
2. When making outgoing phone calls with LTE or HSPA displayed in field test mode, the connection will switch to UMTS and then revert back to LTE or HSPA after hanging up. I dont know what that means, just throwing it out there.
3. On a few occasions during my testing I have noticed that I could not receive calls when HSPA is displayed in field test mode. I think that the phone had just switched from LTE, although I havent been able to 100% verify that.
4. My connection at my house varies between LTE, HSPA,EDGE.
5. EDGE is great. My phone makes and receives calls all day long when I have a EDGE connection.
6. Most of my testing has been at home where I have crappy reception to begin with. On a few occasions when I had my wife with me I had her call my phone(connected to LTE). Same as when at home, my pone never rings.
pside15;36112809]I've had 3 different LTE phones on AT&T and never had issues with missed calls and I'm constantly on a LTE connection. My phone kicks to hspa+ right before I receive a call and then it rings. Goes back to LTE about 30 seconds after I hang up. The only thing I can think of is that you are on LTE only in the field test mode thing. That will definitely give you call problems. What does it say that you are connected to when you go into the phone information menu?
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ITNV said:
I've had a few LTE phones too but I can confirm that this is an issue with AT&T and the HOX. (At least in certain areas.) The phone is *supposed* to do what you said and switch off LTE when a call comes in but that doesn't always happen......".
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Exactly!

I have Samsung Galaxy S3 on AT&T and I have same issue when connected to LTE. I have been working with AT&T CSR for over a week and no resolution yet. I have talked them into switching my data plan from 300MB LTE to Unlimited Standard Phone data plan. (Unlimited standard phone data plan uses HSPA+ and not LTE, which would resolve the issue)
From what I have understood so far, its not the phone, its the AT&T LTE network.

Wouldnt people with the same phone have more answers for you?
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954wrecker said:
Wouldnt people with the same phone have more answers for you?
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AlwaysNoob said:
I have Samsung Galaxy S3 on AT&T and I have same issue when connected to LTE. I have been working with AT&T CSR for over a week and no resolution yet. I have talked them into switching my data plan from 300MB LTE to Unlimited Standard Phone data plan. (Unlimited standard phone data plan uses HSPA+ and not LTE, which would resolve the issue)
From what I have understood so far, its not the phone, its the AT&T LTE network.
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I didnt even know that kind of plan existed. Have you switched over yet? Does it work?:fingers-crossed:

a670 said:
I have the ATT HOX and want to disable LTE due to the known issues with missed calls etc. Would it be possible to disable it through root access WITHOUT installing a custom ROM?
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Have you tried this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27732183&postcount=8

954wrecker said:
Wouldnt people with the same phone have more answers for you?
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No, because this issue is not related to the phone but its related to AT&T LTE network. So everyone on AT&T LTE network has same issue and not only people with HTC one X.
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I didnt even know that kind of plan existed. Have you switched over yet? Does it work?:fingers-crossed:
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I was on phone with them last night. They have created a case number for me so their "technical team" can look into it. They promised me to get back to me before friday on this.
For changing the data plan, the CSR tried to change it but it didnt work yesterday. I blame it on the CSR because I know some people on XDA has done that before. I am gonna call them again and have a different CSR try it or me.
And plus, with this change, you get unlimited HSPA+ for just $10.

cr1960 said:
Have you tried this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27732183&postcount=8
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Thanks for the link. Those settings actually worked for me. I had already tried a couple different APN configs but none of them seemed to stick.
So, now I have successfully disabled LTE.
Unfortunately, I'm still having intermittent missed calls with the phone connected to HSPA. Also, At work in certain areas, we have rock solid LTE reception and guess what...no missed calls. WTFrack?
At home the only time I can get regular calls is when the phone is connected to EDGE.
I seriously think that there must some relationship between 4G/LTE and signal strength. Does anyone know If EDGE and 4G/LTE use the same towers or same power outputs?

[Q] Can't receive calls while on LTE

I literally can't get any calls while connected to LTE. They all go to voicemail. I have been trying to figure this out for days. As soon as I turn off LTE I get calls on 3g with no problems. It also appears that when I'm on LTE if I make a call it had to drop to 3g before the call connects. Data works just fine. I have called sprint but they were less than helpful, updated prl and profile, and tried it in multiple different towns. Anyone have an idea of what to try next?

richse said:
I literally can't get any calls while connected to LTE. They all go to voicemail. I have been trying to figure this out for days. As soon as I turn off LTE I get calls on 3g with no problems. It also appears that when I'm on LTE if I make a call it had to drop to 3g before the call connects. Data works just fine. I have called sprint but they were less than helpful, updated prl and profile, and tried it in multiple different towns. Anyone have an idea of what to try next?
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Whoops accidental thanks lol. If u check the other threads u will know that the way the new tri band phone's work, when on LTE all u get is data, on 3g u get voice and data, so while Ur connected to lte the only way to make or receive calls is for your phone to switch to 3g. This process should be automatic unless u manually changed something to force the phone one lte only.
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luigi311 said:
Whoops accidental thanks lol. If u check the other threads u will know that the way the new tri band phone's work, when on LTE all u get is data, on 3g u get voice and data, so while Ur connected to lte the only way to make or receive calls is for your phone to switch to 3g. This process should be automatic unless u manually changed something to force the phone one lte only.
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That is so false because when I'm on LTE at my local mall, I can send and receive texts just fine.... the OP must've messed with some sort of setting is my guess..?

I have not messed with any settings. This has been happening from day 1. It took me about an hour after I got home from the Sprint store to notice that all calls were going directly to voicemail when I'm on 4G. As soon as I turn off 4G I get all my calls with no problem. I have tried updating prl and profile as I said before, but I don't appreciate people assuming I changed some setting when I'm telling you I didn't change anything. When I'm on 4G there is a spark icon that is constantly showing and the signal bar is always showing 1 bar. I don't know if that's part of the problem or not. If anyone has a serious suggestion to help instead of just assuming I caused this please let me know. Thanks.

Joe0113 said:
That is so false because when I'm on LTE at my local mall, I can send and receive texts just fine.... the OP must've messed with some sort of setting is my guess..?
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Actually text over lte is possible but voice over lte doesnt work for us.
There is a giant s4gru article that explains it all
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richse said:
I have not messed with any settings. This has been happening from day 1. It took me about an hour after I got home from the Sprint store to notice that all calls were going directly to voicemail when I'm on 4G. As soon as I turn off 4G I get all my calls with no problem. I have tried updating prl and profile as I said before, but I don't appreciate people assuming I changed some setting when I'm telling you I didn't change anything. When I'm on 4G there is a spark icon that is constantly showing and the signal bar is always showing 1 bar. I don't know if that's part of the problem or not. If anyone has a serious suggestion to help instead of just assuming I caused this please let me know. Thanks.
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If I read correctly on the s4gru website then the reason ur having this issue is because the tower is missing the 3g upgrade that handles this handoff which is called Circuit Switched Fallback*or enhanced Circuit Switched Fallback. Here's a link to the s4gru page with this info if u wish to learn more about it.
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...-due-to-circuit-switched-fallback-technology/
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gtuansdiamm said:
Actually text over lte is possible but voice or lte doesnt work for us.
There is a giant s4gru article that explains it all
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False again. When at the mall I can make/receive calls as well. You CANNOT use data and be on a call at the same time though (like I could on my S4).

Joe0113 said:
False again. When at the mall I can make/receive calls as well. You CANNOT use data and be on a call at the same time though (like I could on my S4).
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So what your saying is that everything that we know about tri band phones is false? The tri band phones only have 1 antenna so it is impossible to use voice when connected to lte period. When u make a call Sprint kicks you off lte in order to use voice and when the call ends Sprint reconnects you to lte.
eCSFB Gap Issue – What you Need to know:
Smart devices require eCSFB to “fall back” to 3G to accept a voice call if the user is connected to the LTE network.
Taken directly from the link I posted
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luigi311 said:
So what your saying is that everything that we know about tri band phones is false? The tri band phones only have 1 antenna so it is impossible to use voice when connected to lte period. When u make a call Sprint kicks you off lte in order to use voice and when the call ends Sprint reconnects you to lte.
eCSFB Gap Issue – What you Need to know:
Smart devices require eCSFB to “fall back” to 3G to accept a voice call if the user is connected to the LTE network.
Taken directly from the link I posted
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Like I said, I'm not on LTE during the call.....

Joe0113 said:
Like I said, I'm not on LTE during the call.....
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You made it hard to understand what u were saying since u said the guy u quote was giving false information and then said the same thing he explained
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luigi311 said:
You made it hard to understand what u were saying since u said the guy u quote was giving false information and then said the same thing he explained
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Because I thought he said that you can't receive calls or make calls if you are on 4G LTE. Which you can, but once you dial out, or accept the call, you have no data.
Simple miscommunication!!

Joe0113 said:
Because I thought he said that you can't receive calls or make calls if you are on 4G LTE. Which you can, but once you dial out, or accept the call, you have no data.
Simple miscommunication!!
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I never said you can't get a call while on 4G. I said I can't receive a call while my phone is on 4G. Something about my phone or area of service causes my phone not to switch to 3g for incoming calls so the phone never rings

richse said:
I never said you can't get a call while on 4G. I said I can't receive a call while my phone is on 4G. Something about my phone or area of service causes my phone not to switch to 3g for incoming calls so the phone never rings
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i've been having the same problem! I live on the outskirts of the spark network so i only get the regular lte at home. and i dont believe the towers have been upgraded here yet because i wont recieve calls or texts unless i call out on my phone which forces lte off for 3g etc. but if i drive 15 min. north where the "spark" network is deployed then i'll recieve my calls and texts appropriately because the towers are upgraded there.
so sadly i keep my phone on wifi and cdma mode while at home then whenever i go out i have to switch it to lte/cdma and restart the phone so i can utilize lte while im in a "spark" area.
its tedious and sometimes i forget to switch back when i get home.. its such a pain. Leave it to sprint to deploy phones before their network is even ready for them.

pyrochance said:
i've been having the same problem! I live on the outskirts of the spark network so i only get the regular lte at home. and i dont believe the towers have been upgraded here yet because i wont recieve calls or texts unless i call out on my phone which forces lte off for 3g etc. but if i drive 15 min. north where the "spark" network is deployed then i'll recieve my calls and texts appropriately because the towers are upgraded there.
so sadly i keep my phone on wifi and cdma mode while at home then whenever i go out i have to switch it to lte/cdma and restart the phone so i can utilize lte while im in a "spark" area.
its tedious and sometimes i forget to switch back when i get home.. its such a pain. Leave it to sprint to deploy phones before their network is even ready for them.
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Well the places without the 3g upgrades is not that big so they probably just decided to jump on to tri band even though development wasn't complete. It's like saying they should of waited not not sold any LTE devices until they finished deploying LTE, which means they would of still had old devices being sold.
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luigi311 said:
Well the places without the 3g upgrades is not that big so they probably just decided to jump on to tri band even though development wasn't complete. It's like saying they should of waited not not sold any LTE devices until they finished deploying LTE, which means they would of still had old devices being sold.
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well i understand that but at least when they first started selling the lte devices; the devices would still received calls and texts. because even though the lte may not have been upgraded/deployed or whatever yet. the cell phones themselves were compatible with the old network as is. but with these spark devices, they are deploying phones that may or may not work (the main point of a phone is being able to send/receive calls or texts etc) depending on where you are because half of the towers aren't upgraded for csfb
"Circuit Switched Fallback is a great solution to the issue of Sprint Triband LTE smartphones. But the problem here is that the Sprint network is being upgraded in Network Vision, and not all Sprint parts of the Sprint network can currently support CSFB. And it affects all Sprint Triband LTE phones, not just the Nexus 5 and LG G2." quote from http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog%2...-technology/
and the problem here is the phone is supposed to be able to detect that the lte towers in my area dont have csfb and therefore switch back to cdma. But it doesnt, so it stays connected to lte and i never receive any calls or texts. but when i drive north to a spark network area the csfb works appropriately. So this leads me to believe its a network issue and not that my phone is a lemon.
idk maybe im just blowing hot air here but its frustrating that the most important part of my phone does not work properly for whatever reason in my hometown where i spend most of my time.

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well i understand that but at least when they first started selling the lte devices; the devices would still received calls and texts. because even though the lte may not have been upgraded/deployed or whatever yet. the cell phones themselves were compatible with the old network as is. but with these spark devices, they are deploying phones that may or may not work (the main point of a phone is being able to send/receive calls or texts etc) depending on where you are because half of the towers aren't upgraded for csfb
"Circuit Switched Fallback is a great solution to the issue of Sprint Triband LTE smartphones. But the problem here is that the Sprint network is being upgraded in Network Vision, and not all Sprint parts of the Sprint network can currently support CSFB. And it affects all Sprint Triband LTE phones, not just the Nexus 5 and LG G2." quote from http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog%2...-technology/
and the problem here is the phone is supposed to be able to detect that the lte towers in my area dont have csfb and therefore switch back to cdma. But it doesnt, so it stays connected to lte and i never receive any calls or texts. but when i drive north to a spark network area the csfb works appropriately. So this leads me to believe its a network issue and not that my phone is a lemon.
idk maybe im just blowing hot air here but its frustrating that the most important part of my phone does not work properly for whatever reason in my hometown where i spend most of my time.
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I know it's the reason I got rid of LG g2 but the only thing to do right now is put the phone in cdma only and keep checking if they upgrade towers yet
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Joe0113 said:
Because I thought he said that you can't receive calls or make calls if you are on 4G LTE. Which you can, but once you dial out, or accept the call, you have no data.
Simple miscommunication!!
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According to S4GRU what you are saying is wrong. In order for your phone to ring it kicks you off LTE. Circuit Switched Fallback. When you are connected to LTE your phone receives 0 CDMA signals (this includes voice). When sprint is trying to send voice to your phone, if the CDMA cannot be routed to your phone, the LTE network is checked for your phone, if found the LTE network drops you so the CDMA signal can get to your phone.
Give it a try. Make sure you are connected to LTE and data is in use. Have someone call your phone. Watch your LTE indicator change to grayed out, and switch to CDMA before your phone starts ringing.

sporklover said:
According to S4GRU what you are saying is wrong. In order for your phone to ring it kicks you off LTE. Circuit Switched Fallback. When you are connected to LTE your phone receives 0 CDMA signals (this includes voice). When sprint is trying to send voice to your phone, if the CDMA cannot be routed to your phone, the LTE network is checked for your phone, if found the LTE network drops you so the CDMA signal can get to your phone.
Give it a try. Make sure you are connected to LTE and data is in use. Have someone call your phone. Watch your LTE indicator change to grayed out, and switch to CDMA before your phone starts ringing.
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Finally someone researches this, even though I put the link to it you would be surprised how no-one will open it or not even bother to read it since its kinda on the long side.
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sporklover said:
According to S4GRU what you are saying is wrong. In order for your phone to ring it kicks you off LTE. Circuit Switched Fallback. When you are connected to LTE your phone receives 0 CDMA signals (this includes voice). When sprint is trying to send voice to your phone, if the CDMA cannot be routed to your phone, the LTE network is checked for your phone, if found the LTE network drops you so the CDMA signal can get to your phone.
Give it a try. Make sure you are connected to LTE and data is in use. Have someone call your phone. Watch your LTE indicator change to grayed out, and switch to CDMA before your phone starts ringing.
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No ISH, you still receive the call though, that's what I am trying to say..................

This whole thing is extremely depressing, just got this phone today and it's one of the first things I relized..sure I can put it on 3g and sit tight like that but come on the whole point in getting the newest flagship is how it's better than everything else, and sprint can't make it work right (yet). I noticed with my area that as long as the data is not actively loading a page or downloading it will switch to 3g and calls will come in but if it's load strait to voicemail..hope they get it all fixed the way it's supposed to be soon enough.

Simultaneous Voice & Data Confirmed for Verizon

Matt, the forums manager at the Motorola support forums has stated that he is currently using a 2015 Moto X Pure and that simultaneous voice and data are confirmed to be working on Verizon.
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/e570e4be47?commentId=977435#977435

yea I asked there if that means HD voice will work as well on VZW.

patt2k said:
yea I asked there if that means HD voice will work as well on VZW.
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I would bet not. Just the same implementation we have for the nexus 6.

That will be a Godsend coming from an old iPhone 5s on Verizon.

That is providing you're in a 4G area.

But will simjltaneous voice/data work WITHOUT utilizing "advanced calling"?

Mangu said:
But will simjltaneous voice/data work WITHOUT utilizing "advanced calling"?
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I might be wrong but i think advanced calling is what made is possible for data and voice to work at the same time & with out it it wouldn't work.

razor237 said:
I might be wrong but i think advanced calling is what made is possible for data and voice to work at the same time & with out it it wouldn't work.
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You are correct my friend
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Omen87 said:
Matt, the forums manager at the Motorola support forums has stated that he is currently using a 2015 Moto X Pure and that simultaneous voice and data are confirmed to be working on Verizon.
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/e570e4be47?commentId=977435#977435
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Restola said:
I would bet not. Just the same implementation we have for the nexus 6.
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That is providing you're in a 4G area.
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You are correct my friend
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razor237 said:
I might be wrong but i think advanced calling is what made is possible for data and voice to work at the same time & with out it it wouldn't work.
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I am still on my Droid Maxx. Which can do simultaneous voice/data WITHOUT utilizing VoLTE.
Trying to find a newer phone that can do this as well. I found info throughout forums that it is because phones used to be manufactured with two antennas, one to handle phone calls, and the other to handle LTE data. And these days phones are only built with one antenna to handle both calls and data, which makes sense why only utilizing VoLTE is the Simultaneous voice/data feature available.
However, talking with Motorola reps, tbey insist phones have always been manufactured the same regarding amount of communication antennas and that the limitation is on the service provider software end.
Anyone know for sure?
Luckily, my Droid Maxx does give me the ability to try-out VoLTE, but call quality sounds choppy/echo, and I can't deal with dropped calls (i.e. when I'm driving and go through an area where my signal briefly drops to 3G, calls drop because the technology isn't there yet to hand the 4G call over to 3G system).

Guys, this is a hardware AND network question. Most older phones had 2 antennas so we could use data and make calls at the same time. Now they're moving away from this and introducing VoLTE which pushes voice and data through a single antenna. If voice and data doesn't work without VoLTE enabled, then this phone has a single antenna.
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Mangu said:
I am still on my Droid Maxx. Which can do simultaneous voice/data WITHOUT utilizing VoLTE.
Trying to find a newer phone that can do this as well. I found info throughout forums that it is because phones used to be manufactured with two antennas, one to handle phone calls, and the other to handle LTE data. And these days phones are only built with one antenna to handle both calls and data, which makes sense why only utilizing VoLTE is the Simultaneous voice/data feature available.
However, talking with Motorola reps, tbey insist phones have always been manufactured the same regarding amount of communication antennas and that the limitation is on the service provider software end.
Anyone know for sure?
Luckily, my Droid Maxx does give me the ability to try-out VoLTE, but call quality sounds choppy/echo, and I can't deal with dropped calls (i.e. when I'm driving and go through an area where my signal briefly drops to 3G, calls drop because the technology isn't there yet to hand the 4G call over to 3G system).
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Note 4 is the last verizon flagship with voice+data without advanced calling.

Not a question of antennas but one of one radio vs. two...

I just noticed that my Moto X Pure on my Activated VZW SIM is NOT letting me do voice and data at the same time. Thoughts? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

the_ling said:
I just noticed that my Moto X Pure on my Activated VZW SIM is NOT letting me do voice and data at the same time. Thoughts? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Are you in an LTE area?

the_ling said:
I just noticed that my Moto X Pure on my Activated VZW SIM is NOT letting me do voice and data at the same time. Thoughts? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Settings, under wireless and networks, tap more, then tap cellular networks. Is advanced 4g lte mode enabled?
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I have verizon and i can confirm it works. I dont know if you need the advanced calling option turned on, mine is, and it works.
you can surf + talk on verizon

the_ling said:
I just noticed that my Moto X Pure on my Activated VZW SIM is NOT letting me do voice and data at the same time. Thoughts? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Did you opt into the advanced calling feature on My Verizon? Mine wasn't working and that's what I had to do.
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razor237 said:
I might be wrong but i think advanced calling is what made is possible for data and voice to work at the same time & with out it it wouldn't work.
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Simultaneous voice and data works on Moto X 2013 without advanced calling.

the_ling said:
I just noticed that my Moto X Pure on my Activated VZW SIM is NOT letting me do voice and data at the same time. Thoughts? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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you need to have volte enabled in settings + add advanced calling in my-verizon.

d2kplus said:
Simultaneous voice and data works on Moto X 2013 without advanced calling.
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Does the 2013 have 2 antennas? That would explain why.
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Loss of 4g signal when receiving a call

Well the problem of receiving a call and losing the 4g signal and therefore the Internet has a solution? Or is it a problem that characterizes the oneplus :confuso:

??? if you mean that when you receive a call 4G turns to 3G thats just how it works, as voice has a different signal frequency to 4G. Some sim companies will support some phones to have VoLTE or Voice over LTE basically allowing you to keep your 4G signal while calling and have a higher definition and quality of call. But ye its not an issue normally thats just how it works.

Mofo50C said:
??? if you mean that when you receive a call 4G turns to 3G thats just how it works, as voice has a different signal frequency to 4G. Some sim companies will support some phones to have VoLTE or Voice over LTE basically allowing you to keep your 4G signal while calling and have a higher definition and quality of call. But ye its not an issue normally thats just how it works.
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No. I mean that when entering a call, the data is cut off as if it were turned off. And when the call ends, the data signal comes back, this has never happened to me only with the oneplus. And it's annoying to be downloading or playing and losing because of this problem

avirale123 said:
No. I mean that when entering a call, the data is cut off as if it were turned off. And when the call ends, the data signal comes back, this has never happened to me only with the oneplus. And it's annoying to be downloading or playing and losing because of this problem
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I just told you it's normal for it to turn from 4g to 3g when your in a call

Mofo50C said:
I just told you it's normal for it to turn from 4g to 3g when your in a call
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It can not be normal that when a call is received, the data is deactivated

Data goes off when in call. Wifi will still work im call if connected to it

avirale123 said:
It can not be normal that when a call is received, the data is deactivated
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Omg you asked the question I answered you and now your arguing with me do you want an answer or an argument?

Mofo50C said:
Omg you asked the question I answered you and now your arguing with me do you want an answer or an argument?
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You didn't understand his question.
Whenever he's on a call, the data gets deactivated, not going from 4G to 3G, not even down to H... He can't use the internet at all, and that's his problem.

BunnyPig said:
You didn't understand his question.
Whenever he's on a call, the data gets deactivated, not going from 4G to 3G, not even down to H... He can't use the internet at all, and that's his problem.
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Ok well I don't know then if it comes back after the call ends it 100% has something to do with the SIM carrier or the network type.

Mofo50C said:
Ok well I don't know then if it comes back after the call ends it 100% has something to do with the SIM carrier or the network type.
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You seemed pretty confident a few posts back to start an argument over it ...

only4dank said:
You seemed pretty confident a few posts back to start an argument over it ...
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He wasn't explaining it properly and it clearly doesn't affect anything at all. If it loses 4g during call and comes back after call then it's probably fine that's why i was confident it probably had something to do with the way his network is configured other than that in still confident it's normal

Mofo50C said:
He wasn't explaining it properly and it clearly doesn't affect anything at all. If it loses 4g during call and comes back after call then it's probably fine that's why i was confident it probably had something to do with the way his network is configured other than that in still confident it's normal
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As he mentioned very clearly in his 2nd post (pretty clear in first)... When he makes a phone call, during that call he cannot access internet (aka mobile data). Not once did he say anything about switch from 4G to 3G (like you randomly for some reason said was happening, even though it wasn't).
What isn't clear is what you are trying to say without punctuation !

only4dank said:
As he mentioned very clearly in his 2nd post (pretty clear in first)... When he makes a phone call, during that call he cannot access internet (aka mobile data). Not once did he say anything about switch from 4G to 3G (like you randomly for some reason said was happening, even though it wasn't).
What isn't clear is what you are trying to say without punctuation !
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Well maybe, just mabe the way his mobile data is configured to be 4g only. Just thinking...
Normally 4g shuts off on voice calls if not on VoLTE.

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The change from 4g to 3g is normal when I make the call. When I receive the call this does not happen, it is as if the mobile data (Internet access) was deactivated. When playing online, I receive a call immediately, I lose my Internet connection due to the call, it happens on the Oneplus 5 and 6.

rhai said:
Well maybe, just mabe the way his mobile data is configured to be 4g only. Just thinking...
Normally 4g shuts off on voice calls if not on VoLTE.
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It happens in any type of network. When receiving a call immediately the mobile data is disabled

Yes, if you do not have VoLTE enabled for whatever reason (carrier might doesn't support it) you will lose mobile data once the connection downgrades to 3g for the call. This is completely normal. It does come back after the call is finished, as it is the case in your scenario as well. There is nothing you can do about it as far as I know, except getting VoLTE to work.

Seems normal to me. Classic 3G networking only uses one antenna. So when a call is placed, Data is cut off.
With H+ (3G+), which uses two combined antennas, you can have calls and Data at the same time, but it won't always work. It's always been like that for me on all my phones !
All in all, it's related to your network, that's just how it works. Only VoLTE would really solve that.

Go into the settings of your phone app, go to Sim and Network and make sure you have 2G/3G/4G automatic selected. If not select it and reboot then call mom

Firstly, make sure your provider supports volte. Next, make sure your apns are correct on your sim to support this. Then try this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/on...te-forcefully-activated-t3797538/post76670517
For those of you in the USA that may have issues using text or voice over WiFi but NOT over volte, the above may help you as well. I know it helped me.

WiFi calling on Verizon?

Anyone know IF WiFi calling can be enabled on the Verizon network? I know it's enabled through my carrier (coming from Pixel 3 XL)

I am very interested in this as well. Have zero cell coverage at my job, but amazing wifi coverage.
That and a way to do wifi texting, but I think I may have to dig around for that one.

hollovoid said:
I am very interested in this as well. Have zero cell coverage at my job, but amazing wifi coverage.
That and a way to do wifi texting, but I think I may have to dig around for that one.
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i think WiFi texting is tied to WiFi calling they really handicapped the device on Verizon's network. All it can do is essentially make and receive calls...

I know the T-Mobile version can on T-Mobile, but it's there anything that keeps the unlocked version from doing it on T-Mobile? I may switch if that's the case.

I love this phone so much I may have to switch to T-Mobile.
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I did figure out a way to 'make' the option appear using a newer verizon of the Oneplus Logkit apk...(dial *#800#, pick Oneplus Logkit>Function Switch> VoWifi Switch). But after enabling it, it doesn't seem to work yet, and it somehow seems to break MMS if it's on. Not sure if they are actually working on it or not, but I wish someone could see if they could get it working. I think I got the APK from here, but I can't remember from where, so whoever you are, I'm sorry for not crediting you. If someone wants to mess around with it...by all means.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ocJWAxd6CfcHyIso0VNGqvfetTnAdheh

hollovoid said:
I am very interested in this as well. Have zero cell coverage at my job, but amazing wifi coverage.
That and a way to do wifi texting, but I think I may have to dig around for that one.
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Install the Verizon Messages (Message+) and you should be able to do wifi texting. I tried the log kit as well and it doesn't seem like VOWifi is working but it is hard to tell. I can make Wifi calls using Google Voice and that number but only if not in Airplane mode. Seems to be a bug as it says to turn off airplane. Voice then proceeds to make a wifi call. Maybe the same effect with regular VOWifi where it would use wifi if there is no cell signal.

larsdennert said:
Install the Verizon Messages (Message+) and you should be able to do wifi texting. I tried the log kit as well and it doesn't seem like VOWifi is working but it is hard to tell. I can make Wifi calls using Google Voice and that number but only if not in Airplane mode. Seems to be a bug as it says to turn off airplane. Voice then proceeds to make a wifi call. Maybe the same effect with regular VOWifi where it would use wifi if there is no cell signal.
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I actually switched to t-mobile, and voice over wifi, wifi texting and all that showed up and work great. Message+ does not allow wifi texting on Verizon on this phone, tier 2 support said development phones (that's what the OP7 is certified under) are not eligible to use advanced features on the network, including, voice over wifi, video calling and text over wifi using Verizon messages.

I got text over WiFi to work with Verizon messages + and use Google Hangouts over WiFi for the calls. Decent enough work around.
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Can anyone tell me if wifi calling works yet?

klubhead said:
Can anyone tell me if wifi calling works yet?
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It does not. Used my OnePlus 7 Pro for a couple of days and no WiFi calling.