[Q] International S6 Variant on Verizon? - Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm interested in the possibility of using an unlocked international S6 variant on Verizon's network in hopes of obtaining root. Does anyone know if this is possible? I spoke to a verizon rep on the line about this and I was told that "Theoretically, it should work fine. Verizon cannot offer support for non-verizon variants."
Can anyone with some more knowledge on this shed some light on this matter? Can the international model be activated on Verizon and rooted? If so, which S6 international model can be used?

Basketballhero75 said:
I'm interested in the possibility of using an unlocked international S6 variant on Verizon's network in hopes of obtaining root. Does anyone know if this is possible? I spoke to a verizon rep on the line about this and I was told that "Theoretically, it should work fine. Verizon cannot offer support for non-verizon variants."
Can anyone with some more knowledge on this shed some light on this matter? Can the international model be activated on Verizon and rooted? If so, which S6 international model can be used?
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I'm pretty sure the international version doesn't support CDMA, which is used by Verizon for 2G and 3G network. So you won't be able to call or text (data should still work though). The Verizon S6 (G920V) actually comes with a Qualcomm modem to support CDMA, as opposed to Samsung's own Shannon.

david23c said:
I'm pretty sure the international version doesn't support CDMA, which is used by Verizon for 2G and 3G network. So you won't be able to call or text (data should still work though). The Verizon S6 (G920V) actually comes with a Qualcomm modem to support CDMA, as opposed to Samsung's own Shannon.
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Any ideas about the Sprint Variant then? It's been rooted and is CDMA.
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Basketballhero75 said:
Any ideas about the Sprint Variant then? It's been rooted and is CDMA.
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The Sprint variant (G920P) should be compatible with Verizon as it comes with the Qualcomm modem.

Can anyone confirm that the Sprint s6 works on Verizon????

Anyone able to determine this?? Sprint s6 working on Verizon.

tu3218 said:
Anyone able to determine this?? Sprint s6 working on Verizon.
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I am currently using my sprint S6 on the Verizon Network.
Current issues:
PRL needs to be updated because it is preferring to use the sprint network over Verizon. This makes it so that my fastest speeds are 1Mb/s. not to mention sprint network here blows with reception.
If anyone could help me with what PRL would be the correct one to use. Also I haven't flashed the PRL before and I am reluctant to start pressing buttons in the CDMA Dev Tool.
Help would be appreciated.

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T-Mobile Note Edge on AT&T.

I have been searching for an answer and have not gotten a clear and definitive answer. Does the T-Mobile Note Edge variant work on all AT&T LTE networks without issue after being unlocked? According to tbr Samsung website both models have the same bands with the t-mobile Edge have 2 additional bands
I have the att model but would really like to be part of the dev community. I have a week and a half to return my att model. I would buy the t-mobile model if it works completely on the networks. Anyone out there using a t-mobile Edge on ATT. Thanks
verks said:
I have been searching for an answer and have not gotten a clear and definitive answer. Does the T-Mobile Note Edge variant work on all AT&T LTE networks without issue after being unlocked? According to tbr Samsung website both models have the same bands with the t-mobile Edge have 2 additional bands
I have the att model but would really like to be part of the dev community. I have a week and a half to return my att model. I would buy the t-mobile model if it works completely on the networks. Anyone out there using a t-mobile Edge on ATT. Thanks
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Think I can help answer a few Qs.
Am using a Straight Talk sim (ATT) in my T-Mo Note Edge. Getting 8-15+ mb/s down...2-4 mb/s up (more than enough for me). Followed rooting method posted by TekHD. Did not see unlock procedure for T-Mo Edge.
T-Mo does hold your unlock hostage for 2+ months or $100 (didn't see this stated and argued). Unlocked through a reputable unlocker through fleabay (~$24 I think - Tmo also recommended...go figure).
Hope this helps.
Wish someone can release a qualcomm kernel w OC/UV/governors and thermal control soon...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2959522
[ROM] T-Mobile Note Edge SM-915T NJL Rooted Stock Deodexed Knox-disabled + AT&T Info
verks said:
I have been searching for an answer and have not gotten a clear and definitive answer. Does the T-Mobile Note Edge variant work on all AT&T LTE networks without issue after being unlocked? According to tbr Samsung website both models have the same bands with the t-mobile Edge have 2 additional bands
I have the att model but would really like to be part of the dev community. I have a week and a half to return my att model. I would buy the t-mobile model if it works completely on the networks. Anyone out there using a t-mobile Edge on ATT. Thanks
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Yes, Using one right now. You do not need to unlock it at all it will work right out of the box with an AT&T sim as will all T-Mobile Phones.. This has been a thing for years. There might be some obscure T-Mobile phones without perfect LTE Band or Data support. Every major model will work perfect with absolutely no unlock don't waste your money. I actually called T-Mobile before throwing my gophone sim into the Note Edge T-Mobile variant and cautiously asked if they will blacklist the imei of a phone that is using an AT&T sim. The T-Mobile representative kindly, calmly, and with conviction said that no you will not have your device blacklisted, and that all T-Mobile phones should work out of the box on AT&T. Enjoy not paying for an unlock code! I'll upload pictures of my note edge running AT&T data services via an AT&T gophone sim if you don't believe me. It actually put the APN information in for me automatically too! Meaning I did not have to enter in carrier specific AT&T APN, the software on the Note Edge T-Mo variant picked up the different carrier and entered the APN settings automatically. Woot woot
Shagerty said:
Yes, Using one right now. You do not need to unlock it at all it will work right out of the box with an AT&T sim as will all T-Mobile Phones.. This has been a thing for years. There might be some obscure T-Mobile phones without perfect LTE Band or Data support. Every major model will work perfect with absolutely no unlock don't waste your money. I actually called T-Mobile before throwing my gophone sim into the Note Edge T-Mobile variant and cautiously asked if they will blacklist the imei of a phone that is using an AT&T sim. The T-Mobile representative kindly, calmly, and with conviction said that no you will not have your device blacklisted, and that all T-Mobile phones should work out of the box on AT&T. Enjoy not paying for an unlock code! I'll upload pictures of my note edge running AT&T data services via an AT&T gophone sim if you don't believe me. It actually put the APN information in for me automatically too! Meaning I did not have to enter in carrier specific AT&T APN, the software on the Note Edge T-Mo variant picked up the different carrier and entered the APN settings automatically. Woot woot
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strange. I have my att sim in a SM-N915T on 6.0.1 N915TUVS2DPG2 and it says network locked.

S6 region locked

Can anyone tell me if the phones is region locked? Thanks
i am not sure what you are looking for but i do know that there is a thread on here where someone tried a Verizon SIM in a Tmob and ATT S6 and neither one worked on Verizon.
Generally Verizon phones are SIM unlocked so u can use them on Tom or att but don't expect to get lte coverage since the phones have different bands enabled.
fletch33 said:
i am not sure what you are looking for but i do know that there is a thread on here where someone tried a Verizon SIM in a Tmob and ATT S6 and neither one worked on Verizon.
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That's because those don't have CDMA radios, and at least the AT&T one is locked. Verizon phones come SIM-unlocked and work with other carriers. If you use a T-Mobile SIM you'll see an "unknown SIM" message, but it will work assuming the bands match. You should be able to get LTE with T-Mobile as most of their network uses band 4.
He means region locked, like usa
geoff5093 said:
That's because those don't have CDMA radios, and at least the AT&T one is locked. Verizon phones come SIM-unlocked and work with other carriers. If you use a T-Mobile SIM you'll see an "unknown SIM" message, but it will work assuming the bands match. You should be able to get LTE with T-Mobile as most of their network uses band 4.
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Anyway to get rid of this message? My g2 I had to root it to get rid of it. I hope I don't have to root the s6 just for that because it gets really anoying just having the icon showing unknown sim the whole time.
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Unlocked Galaxy S6 and S6 Edge from other Carriers

Here is confirmation for anyone wonder if the Galaxy S6 unlocked from ATT or Tmoibile will work on Verizon just like the iPhones 6 6+ or Nexus 6
I have both ATT and Tmobile Galaxy S6 in hands, unlocked, inserted Verizon sim card in and there is no signal
However, when I check "About Device" it shows my phone number
Mobile Network Type: LTE
Service State: Out of Service
and LTE came up for a second and never came back on
I think they blocked the LTE bands or so to stop people unlock their phones using on another carrier
T33H00 said:
Here is confirmation for anyone wonder if the Galaxy S6 unlocked from ATT or Tmoibile will work on Verizon just like the iPhones 6 6+ or Nexus 6
I have both ATT and Tmobile Galaxy S6 in hands, unlocked, inserted Verizon sim card in and there is no signal
However, when I check "About Device" it shows my phone number
Mobile Network Type: LTE
Service State: Out of Service
and LTE came up for a second and never came back on
I think they blocked the LTE bands or so to stop people unlock their phones using on another carrier
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My guess is the AT&T and T-Mobile variants don't have CDMA radios.
T33H00 said:
Here is confirmation for anyone wonder if the Galaxy S6 unlocked from ATT or Tmoibile will work on Verizon just like the iPhones 6 6+ or Nexus 6
I have both ATT and Tmobile Galaxy S6 in hands, unlocked, inserted Verizon sim card in and there is no signal
However, when I check "About Device" it shows my phone number
Mobile Network Type: LTE
Service State: Out of Service
and LTE came up for a second and never came back on
I think they blocked the LTE bands or so to stop people unlock their phones using on another carrier
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They didn't block the bands. According to pdadb, the 920A and 920T don't have CDMA.
Unlocking att s6
Hi was it easy to get the att version unlocked from a 3rd party website or did you get it unlocked from ATT?
thats why i prefer buying unlocked phones from Amazon and use on any network on my choice. i wonder if this locking phones is cant be investigated for being anti competitive or messing with our rights somehow
zboy2 said:
Hi was it easy to get the att version unlocked from a 3rd party website or did you get it unlocked from ATT?
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musakilimanjaro said:
thats why i prefer buying unlocked phones from Amazon and use on any network on my choice. i wonder if this locking phones is cant be investigated for being anti competitive or messing with our rights somehow
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You guys are confusing "unlocked" terms. There's a carrier unlock and a bootloader unlock. VZW phones are carrier unlocked and work on any network as long as the radio has the proper frequency support. But VZW phones are bootloader locked, meaning you can't flash unsigned packages to the device i..e. no root yet.
S6 att unlock
hi was it easy to get the att s6 unlocked. Thanks.
Mostly correct except root does not necessarily depend on unlocked bootloader, which you somewhat implied by the end of your statement.
I'm thinking about purchasing a unlocked Sprint Galaxy S6 on craigslist and bringing it to Verizon. Does anyone know if this will work?
Thanks
~Tom
I want the S6 but not if the bootloader is locked. I know that Verizon and ATT are the two carriers who will lock the bootloader. I'm not sure if a T-Mobile line would work due to their using GSM rather than CDMA, but doesn't Sprint use CDMA? Would we be able to purchase a Sprint variant that doesn't have a locked bootloader and then use that phone on Verizon?
Would a Vzw version work on GSM carriers including LTE? I am thinking of buying one off contract for the wife, but want it to be able to go to a cheaper prepaid service later once our contract expires.
t mobile phone on Verizon network
Would the T mobile S6 work with Verizon LTE data only? Did you try to surf the Internet?
Will a Verizon S6 work on T-Mobile? LTE as well?
It should work fine but be aware that VZW uses different LTE bands than TMO. VZW uses Bands 13/4 with 13 as Primary and TMO uses primarily Band 4 but will enable band 12 soon.
geoff5093 said:
My guess is the AT&T and T-Mobile variants don't have CDMA radios.
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Well, when carriers started putting up powers that supported LTE, the phone manufacturers were releasing phones that supported CDMA and LTE because LTE wasn't widespread enough to get an LTE signal. CDMA technology will eventually be replaced by LTE. Qualcomm owns all the parents for CDMA, so whenever anyone makes a call using CDMA, QCOM collects their revenue checks, which used to represent 51% of total revenues. It's cheaper for the carriers to run LTE because QCOM doesn't own the entire technology and they won't have to pay the royalties to QCOM for using their technology (kind of like using H.265 vs VP9 for 4K video compression. Royalties using the older H.265 compression maxed out at $5 million a year. H. 265 maxes out at $25 million vs Google's VP9 free open-source technology for video compression.
Once enough towers are up that support LTE, handsets won't come with the availability to use CDMA technology anymore. Next thing we'll see are cable providers putting up hotspot all around the city (I've already seen it with Comcast, but this could really hurt the phone companies since people won't even be using LTE anymore, just like when people had to use much slower data connections in rural areas on their cell phones because they didn't have towers. VOIP will also hurt the carriers.
So, to answer that, I wouldn't be surprised if they weren't built to support CDMA anymore. These balloons that just started being launched by Google to provide Internet access to everyone in the world will be interesting to see how functional it is. It would be nice top have a high speed connection anywhere in the world.
Sprint and Verizon uses CDMA while AT&T and T-Mobile uses GSM. So trying to use an unlocked S6 for Verizon won't work since unlocked versions are usually GSM. So nope.
T33H00 said:
Here is confirmation for anyone wonder if the Galaxy S6 unlocked from ATT or Tmoibile will work on Verizon just like the iPhones 6 6+ or Nexus 6
I have both ATT and Tmobile Galaxy S6 in hands, unlocked, inserted Verizon sim card in and there is no signal
However, when I check "About Device" it shows my phone number
Mobile Network Type: LTE
Service State: Out of Service
and LTE came up for a second and never came back on
I think they blocked the LTE bands or so to stop people unlock their phones using on another carrier
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I had the exact same problem with my one plus one. I'm 99% certain it's not about the bands being blocked in the phone but about verizon network non-verizon phones. The fact that you can select verizon if you search for a network means the bands are compatible.
Verizon is being evil by blocking the phones. I'm just not sure how (could be that any phone not wishlisted cannot be activated i.e. s13 interface )
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T33H00 said:
Here is confirmation for anyone wonder if the Galaxy S6 unlocked from ATT or Tmoibile will work on Verizon just like the iPhones 6 6+ or Nexus 6
I have both ATT and Tmobile Galaxy S6 in hands, unlocked, inserted Verizon sim card in and there is no signal
However, when I check "About Device" it shows my phone number
Mobile Network Type: LTE
Service State: Out of Service
and LTE came up for a second and never came back on
I think they blocked the LTE bands or so to stop people unlock their phones using on another carrier
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pembertj said:
I'm thinking about purchasing a unlocked Sprint Galaxy S6 on craigslist and bringing it to Verizon. Does anyone know if this will work?
Thanks
~Tom
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99% sure it wont work, see my post above
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Droid_Evo_8 said:
Sprint and Verizon uses CDMA while AT&T and T-Mobile uses GSM. So trying to use an unlocked S6 for Verizon won't work since unlocked versions are usually GSM. So nope.
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Welcome to 2007 or 08...
phone has lte and is trying to connect to an lte network
SDRebel said:
I had the exact same problem with my one plus one. I'm 99% certain it's not about the bands being blocked in the phone but about verizon network non-verizon phones. The fact that you can select verizon if you search for a network means the bands are compatible.
Verizon is being evil by blocking the phones. I'm just not sure how (could be that any phone not wishlisted cannot be activated i.e. s13 interface )
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Problem is Verizon whitelists all IMEIs for phones that they'll "support." Even if you get it working, it 1) doesn't have CDMA, so you can't make calls unless you're strictly in VoLTE areas, and 2) you won't be able to make any plan changes or get a M2M discount since the phone would be a "Non-VZW Device."
SDRebel said:
Welcome to 2007 or 08...
phone has lte and is trying to connect to an lte network
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Oh yeah? Well then, how do you explain how come my Verizon S5 didn't work on T-Mobile when we tried it, huh?
Droid_Evo_8 said:
Sprint and Verizon uses CDMA while AT&T and T-Mobile uses GSM. So trying to use an unlocked S6 for Verizon won't work since unlocked versions are usually GSM. So nope.
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Berzerker7 said:
Problem is Verizon whitelists all IMEIs for phones that they'll "support." Even if you get it working, it 1) doesn't have CDMA, so you can't make calls unless you're strictly in VoLTE areas, and 2) you won't be able to make any plan changes or get a M2M discount since the phone would be a "Non-VZW Device."
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Right, that's been my speculation for a while, but i have no inside info. Whitelisting every device would be a major PITA though...unless they bulk-whitelist then using data from the manufacturers. ..that also doesnt explain why people report being able to bring an iphone 6 or a nexus 6 over from other nwtworks (not sure if rhey have only gotten lte working and not the cdma part)
I do know the cdma functionality wouldn't be available, but tthe discussion was more along the lines of why it attached to lte ans then nothing.
The strange part is that both OP and I saw LTE eveb if for a split second. ..i would expect N attach reject if it's due to the Whitelisting.
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Droid_Evo_8 said:
Oh yeah? Well then, how do you explain how come my Verizon S5 didn't work on T-Mobile when we tried it, huh?
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The most likely reason is that you did something wrong. I have personally used verizon s3, verizon s4 and htc rezound in tmobile and other gsm networks. (I will test my s6 soon for t-mobile and cricket)
it's well known that most verizon lte phones are unlocked and have gsm functionality.
My most logical guess is that you didn't set up something like the APN.
Your anecdotal experience does not a rule make. (most common fallacy i see in real life: it didnt work for me so it doesnt work!)

G930W8 with Verizon or T-Mobile?

I am thinking of getting an unlocked S7. It seems to me G930W8 has the necessary LTE bands for Verizon and T-mobile, which are the carriers used in our family. Does anyone have any experience with either US carrier? Is there any issue? I am picking this model mainly because it's not bootloader locked like the Snapdragon models (US models), so in the future I can load any custom ROM.
cant0nese said:
I am thinking of getting an unlocked S7. It seems to me G930W8 has the necessary LTE bands for Verizon and T-mobile, which are the carriers used in our family. Does anyone have any experience with either US carrier? Is there any issue? I am picking this model mainly because it's not bootloader locked like the Snapdragon models (US models), so in the future I can load any custom ROM.
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Did you ever get this phone and find out if it works on Verizon? I have rooted my G935W8, but my friend's G930W8 is unlocked and unrooted. I am trying to find out if she can use it on Verizon. The Verizon reps where she is says it will not work. She has just moved there, and needs a working phone. She was using it on T-Mobile, but that doesn't give her any service in the part of Utah she is now in. If she were somewhere she knew people, I would have her ask someone if she could test their sim in her phone, but she doesn't know anyone there yet.

Does Sprint version of HTC U11 works with AT&T or T-Mobile after unlocked?

Can anyone confirm that will the unlocked Sprint version of HTC U11 work with AT&T or T-Mobile? I chatted with both HTC and Sprint agents but not getting a sure answer. HTC agent said that even it's unlocked it will only work with CDMA carriers. The Sprint agent said it depends on the other carriers to be compatible with the device. Thus has anyone tested and confirmed it will or will not work on AT&T or T-Mobile? Thanks.
If Sprint unlocks it, it has the radios according to HTC's own specs page. There is no band 30 support for at&t on any model and there is no band 66 for T-Mobile on the Sprint model but the main bands are there.
The question is if Sprint will unlock it for domestic usage though. They have an inconsistent track record with that.
Sprints domestic unlock policy
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unlock it yourself I have confirmed this method works
the US Unlocked & Sprint models have the same hardware, just different ROMs. I have only tested w/ a Verizon sim, but I am confident ATT & TMO will work fine.
if we had s-off, it would be even better, then you could flash the US Unlocked RUU
The hardware is the same on all models so it will work fine once you get it unlocked.
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OMJ said:
Sprints domestic unlock policy
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unlock it yourself I have confirmed this method works
the US Unlocked & Sprint models have the same hardware, just different ROMs. I have only tested w/ a Verizon sim, but I am confident ATT & TMO will work fine.
if we had s-off, it would be even better, then you could flash the US Unlocked RUU
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themuffinman said:
The hardware is the same on all models so it will work fine once you get it unlocked.
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The hardware is not the same across all models. The Sprint model has a CDMA radio and does not support all bands the US unlocked version does but it will work fine on AT&T and T-Mobile.
EtherealRemnant said:
The hardware is not the same across all models. The Sprint model has a CDMA radio and does not support all bands the US unlocked version does but it will work fine on AT&T and T-Mobile.
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I know for a fact the Sprint & us unlocked have the same hardware... No idea about overseas models
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@OMJ @EtherealRemnant Please don't argue in another members thread with what is essentially nonsense, You both provided answers to the OP and let's just leave it at that. I've cleaned this thread up and hopefully it stays clean. Thank you.

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