[Q] Wireless Charging - Daydream - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S6

I have a Qi charging stand, and I set up the S6 daydream (screen saver) with news/weather. This is perfect for work to keep it charged wirelessly and keep up with news.
However with wireless charging, it doesn't seem to trickle charge correctly, so the phone keeps oscillating between 99% and 100% every few minutes. More importantly whenever it starts or stops charging, the phone wakes up to tell me so. Sadly we can't install the Xposed app to disable the wake.
When I use a wired charger though, it doesn't seem to have this cycle. Presumably it gets to 100% and trickle charges, and thus the screen does seem to stay off.
Does anyone have this effect, or know of a workaround? Do others use other wireless chargers that are able to trickle charge?

flamedragon3 said:
I have a Qi charging stand, and I set up the S6 daydream (screen saver) with news/weather. This is perfect for work to keep it charged wirelessly and keep up with news.
However with wireless charging, it doesn't seem to trickle charge correctly, so the phone keeps oscillating between 99% and 100% every few minutes. More importantly whenever it starts or stops charging, the phone wakes up to tell me so. Sadly we can't install the Xposed app to disable the wake.
When I use a wired charger though, it doesn't seem to have this cycle. Presumably it gets to 100% and trickle charges, and thus the screen does seem to stay off.
Does anyone have this effect, or know of a workaround? Do others use other wireless chargers that are able to trickle charge?
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This is an intentional design decision by Samsung, they did it on the S4 as well.
I agree that it is super annoying, and it means that I can't just charge the phone overnight unless I go wired.

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[Q] Question/Observation about Heat+Wireless Charging

This is something I've noticed after using wireless charging to charge overnight for the past few months. I've been using the Nokia wireless charger, and in the morning the phone is usually warm. It's not hot. I checked temp and it's around 95F which is about how it gets after 5-10 min of browsing. I'm not concerned about the temperature, however I was just curious why I've never observed that with wired charging. I know that wireless charging heats up the phone more than wired charging, but after hitting 100% I thought it would act similar. After picking up the phone in the morning it feels cool when taking it off a wired charger. Granted, I've only used this one wireless charger for overnight charging. I have the nexus wireless charger that I keep in the car. I suppose I can try and see what results I get with that.
Anyway, just curious why you guys think. Again, I'm not overly concerned, but just wondering if the phone treats trickle charge differently when using wired vs. wireless.

Anyone else having wireless charging issues?

Wireless charging seems flaky at best. Sometimes, it works like a champ. Sometimes, my phone will stop charging, start charging, stop charging, start charging, etc. until I get annoyed, pick it up, and put it back on the charger. I left it on the charger overnight and found it at 87% this morning. I don't know if it wasn't charging properly that whole time, or if it got to 100% and then just stopped charging. Any tips on this? Anyone else having similar issues?
FYI - this is the Samsung charging pad and the phone with no case or anything on it.
No issues here. Work flawlessly
I'm also having the issue with wireless charging starting and stopping. My charging pad, however is an ebay qi pad. Seems very position dependent on both of the pads I was using successfully with my S3.
The behavior is that it will start charging, then 10 seconds to a minute later stop. Then start....then stop...
S6
I have the sony charging pad and I've noticed my S6 stops charging when I get any kind of notification...
No issues here
you shall use 2A chargers to be effective.
I do. I have an official Samsung 2A charger with an official Samsung USB cable attached to an official Samsung wireless charger.
I haven't paid attention to it throughout the day, but I did notice that if I place my phone on the wireless charger it seems to charge to 100% and then it will stop charging. I know a few nights ago the samsung puck was green when I fell asleep but in the morning when I woke up I was down to 92%. I will be taking the wireless charger with me to work tomorrow so I will know for sure if it stops charging at 100% or if it does what you are describing.
Both my gf and I bought our Galaxy s6 edge on release day at Bestbuy and with the preorder the wireless chargers we're included free. The past 2 nights both of our phones have had this issue. Mine only charged to 87% yesterday and 93% today. Hers was at 88% yestwrday and 96%today.
I'm curious if the wireless charger takes a much longer time to completely charge the device to 100%.
For me better wireless charger than wire... I think I've better battety life.
With wireless charging I use wire charger included.
xeni said:
I haven't paid attention to it throughout the day, but I did notice that if I place my phone on the wireless charger it seems to charge to 100% and then it will stop charging. I know a few nights ago the samsung puck was green when I fell asleep but in the morning when I woke up I was down to 92%. I will be taking the wireless charger with me to work tomorrow so I will know for sure if it stops charging at 100% or if it does what you are describing.
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iirc thats supposed to happen to prevent overcharging.
Does wireless charge work with OTG plugged in?
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Gs6 owner said:
Both my gf and I bought our Galaxy s6 edge on release day at Bestbuy and with the preorder the wireless chargers we're included free. The past 2 nights both of our phones have had this issue. Mine only charged to 87% yesterday and 93% today. Hers was at 88% yestwrday and 96%today.
I'm curious if the wireless charger takes a much longer time to completely charge the device to 100%.
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I spoke too soon... Yesterday was first wireless charching.
Today it stops at 96%
jmoney510 said:
iirc thats supposed to happen to prevent overcharging.
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Thats makes sense but I've my wireless charger next to be bedside table and I was woken up but the charger plugged in notification sound constancy going off.
It would be really great to turn those sounds off. Also, you have to assume that there's some battery level where it will restart wireless charging, right?
flu13 said:
It would be really great to turn those sounds off. Also, you have to assume that there's some battery level where it will restart wireless charging, right?
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This is what I was hoping for when I said above that I saw it hit 100% and then overnight it drained to 92%. I would hope that if it falls below 97% or so that it would charge again to 100% so it keeps cycling but right now I am not sure if it does it.
I've noticed the exact same problem with mine. I got the free Samsung official wireless charger from Best Buy. The phone charges to 100% every night but when it finishes, usually around 3 or 4 a.m., it just stops charging and doesn't start again. So this means that every day when I wake up my phone has drained to around 90%. This never happened with my Nexus 5 on a generic wireless charger. It always kept it topped up until I remove the phone. This is really annoying.
BTW if you go into the settings menu under battery, you can see exactly when your phone stopped charging.
jmoney510 said:
iirc thats supposed to happen to prevent overcharging.
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that sounds like the best reason untill i hear anything more concrete, might try charging tonight direct via the cable and see if it hits 100%
but with no replaceable battery they may have introduced this to prolong the life of the battery.
I totally get not overcharging. But it's got to kick back on at some point. Leaving your phone on a charger overnight should basically guarantee 100% in the morning. Maybe at 97% it could kick back on, or at 100%, it could go into a trickle mode. I'm sure some custom development will come along and fix this problem.
Here's hoping for an update or something through soon. Gonna test a full charge before tonight and see if it actually states it reaches 100%
I'll post what I find.
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[Q] Wireless charging issues?

Hi
I brought a Samsung wireless charger. The first few days, it worked flawlessly, but today when putting the phone on at 27%, when it hit around 85-90%, it started saying "Wireless charging have stopped" even tho it still charges. It's annoying, cause the screen light up, it vibrates and I get notification about it, but it starts charging right after?
Do you think this is a phone or wireless charger problem? Also, will this hurt my battery in any way? I mean if I leave it overnight, would it hurt the battery that the battery start charging, stopping again and then start again? This is around every sec or so.
Thanks in advance
Sometimes, that charger is finicky. You need to position the phone just right, and if it slides a little bit, it can start connecting/disconnecting. When it does that, try just picking it up and setting it back on the charger. I try to put just above center on the phone over center of the charger.
samsung S Charger Wide works
I bought the Samsung S Charger Wide qi charger, it predates the S6 round charger. It's also cheaper, although it does not come with a plugpack or USB cable. It needs a 2A charger (such as the one which comes with the S6). It charges easily even with the Samsung S View case in use. This older charge is about the size of Note. It has a slight lip making it harder for a phone to slip off.
does wireless chargers is fast as the fast charger provided?
No. It is a lot slower although the difference is much greater if your battery is very depleted. The performance gap is lower as the battery charges because the fast charger 'slows' down.
It's charging at 927mA according to GSam Battery at about 80%. That's not too bad.

Fast Charging Not Always Fast

I just picked up a wireless fast charger for use in my car, and found out (via one of those USB power meters) that the S7 isn't actually fast charging even though it says it is. When the screen is off and the device is fully idle, it will charge at 7-12W (power input to the wireless fast charger) but when the screen is on, it drops down to 3-5W which is not even enough to maintain state of charge if I'm doing something like a phone call or GPS navigation. Any ideas why this is? Seems like it might be thermal related. I've got root and various tweaking apps, is there a way to force it to do full 10W charging whenever possible and throttle CPU instead if needed for thermals?
Found the answer to part of my question here: http://androidforums.com/threads/galaxy-s7-wont-fast-charge-if-the-screen-is-on.1002329/
It's by design that if the temperature is too high or the screen is on fast charging is disabled. Question remains if this can be bypassed by root commands/tweaks or not.
jkenny23 said:
Found the answer to part of my question here: http://androidforums.com/threads/galaxy-s7-wont-fast-charge-if-the-screen-is-on.1002329/
It's by design that if the temperature is too high or the screen is on fast charging is disabled. Question remains if this can be bypassed by root commands/tweaks or not.
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It also depends on charger
As long fast charging is switched ON on your phone and the wireless charger does support fast charging, it will say that its fast charging.
However, if your phone while charging got hot or you are charging in a hot ambient temperature, the phone will charge at normal rates even less as the temps of the phone goes up. Thus the fan in the wireless charger
Btw am referring to the official samsung fast charger stand with a gs7, havent tried other brands.
Hope this helps

General Wireless charging

Wireless charging is awful on this device. No matter what case (or even no case), my phone must often does not charge wirelessly. I've tried multiple chargers. I get the "connected; not charging" message. Sometimes it works, but seems to need to be in the exact spot. Even then, it often stops charging after a while or drains faster than it charges.
Any insight or solution to this?
This is a stock pixel 7 pro, bootloader still locked. Bought from Google store and activated on T-mobile.
What wireless charging pad are you using?
I was having all the same thoughts as you. Had a couple Samsung "fast" wireless chargers. However, bought a new one Costco that's not Samsung and it works as expected. Never have to realign or wake up to a dead phone anymore.
my rooted p7p with tq1a.230205.002
is charging well with wireless pads and wireless powerbanks.
always heating up p7p tho
I don't know why people like using Samsung but I prefer other brands
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My Pixel 7 Pro works fine using this 30w Wireless Charger from Amazon - Nanami 30W Max Wireless Charger
This is the only thing missing from the OnePlus 11 - but I don't care...
V0latyle said:
What wireless charging pad are you using?
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A variety that all worked great with my Samsung s20. Ankers, Samsung, and a few generics that worked better. None work well with the pixel 7 pro
I'm using the Belkin 15w charger and it seems to be working well.
I use the wireless charging dock I bought for my OnePlus9 Pro. Never had an issue with charging
LPMatt said:
Wireless charging is awful on this device. No matter what case (or even no case), my phone must often does not charge wirelessly. I've tried multiple chargers. I get the "connected; not charging" message. Sometimes it works, but seems to need to be in the exact spot. Even then, it often stops charging after a while or drains faster than it charges.
Any insight or solution to this?
This is a stock pixel 7 pro, bootloader still locked. Bought from Google store and activated on T-mobile.
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In my case, I figured out my wireless charging is unstable if my phone is in any condition where it might get at all warm. The Pixel 7s are just lousy at staying cool, and once the temperature rises to high 30/low 40C (which doesn't take much at all), wireless charging is severely throttled if not completely stopped. So if it's sunny out, I understand my phone won't charge in my car mount. The sun just makes it too hot, and it won't bother (no matter how cool I keep it in my car, direct sunlight on the phone is too much). If it's sitting on my wireless charger and I decide to try and use my phone while it charges, I understand odds are VERY high it will get too hot and stop charging. And if it stops charging because it has overheated, I know now to give up rather than keep readjusting it on the wireless charger, because even if it's not charging, if it's trying, it's still making the phone hotter, which is making it take even longer to cool down and resume charging. So I just take it off and don't bother putting it back on until it's gotten a chance to settle first.
It's finicky and irritating that their flagship has such lousy thermal control, but knowing that my wireless charging issues are linked to my phone's temperature has helped me understand how to keep my phone charged. Those who only charge wirelessly without ever trying to use the phone and only in particularly cool environments may never observe any wireless charging issues at all.
itiskonrad said:
In my case, I figured out my wireless charging is unstable if my phone is in any condition where it might get at all warm. The Pixel 7s are just lousy at staying cool, and once the temperature rises to high 30/low 40C (which doesn't take much at all), wireless charging is severely throttled if not completely stopped. So if it's sunny out, I understand my phone won't charge in my car mount. The sun just makes it too hot, and it won't bother (no matter how cool I keep it in my car, direct sunlight on the phone is too much). If it's sitting on my wireless charger and I decide to try and use my phone while it charges, I understand odds are VERY high it will get too hot and stop charging. And if it stops charging because it has overheated, I know now to give up rather than keep readjusting it on the wireless charger, because even if it's not charging, if it's trying, it's still making the phone hotter, which is making it take even longer to cool down and resume charging. So I just take it off and don't bother putting it back on until it's gotten a chance to settle first.
It's finicky and irritating that their flagship has such lousy thermal control, but knowing that my wireless charging issues are linked to my phone's temperature has helped me understand how to keep my phone charged. Those who only charge wirelessly without ever trying to use the phone and only in particularly cool environments may never observe any wireless charging issues at all.
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I noticed this too
I find Power saver with less brightness helps, but if it gets hot it's not charging at all
No problems with 2 different wireless chargers with a transparent case.
I measured the power usage with an external device and its mostly the charger uses 14 watts power between 0 and 80%. (don't forget the energy loss with this technology!)
No real overheating. But placing the device correctly affects the power draw a lot.
I agree. It's terrible, no matter what charging pad i use, it always glitchy.
Not to mention, the reverse charging won't work properly either. Plenty of time i need to recharge my buds while travelling to no avail.
I struggled with wireless chargers for P7P too, I tried at least 4 with varying degrees of success but ultimately I just ended up using some of the store credit I got for buying to the phone to get a Pixel Stand 2 and it works great.
I can happily say : MARCH RELEASE FIXED MY WIRELESS CHARGING ISSUE.

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