So I use skype on my desktop to video chat with my girlfriend who is a few states away, we do this every night. I used my surface instead of my desktop sometimes but I stopped, I got paranoid that it's damaging the screen somehow even though the video is usually all black. So my question is, is it really doing any damage by having it on all night (brightness at lowest)?
Having a display on for a longer period of time will indeed cause image retention. This can be temporary or permanent depending on: how long, temperature of the device, content of the screen...
In any case: no, it's not good to leave it on for the entire night.
Not only can it cause permanent damage, the brightness of your screen will also wear off faster.
AMOLED screens are less affected but even there it can happen over time.
If you really want to do this and you don't care about the lifetime of your tablet, make sure the screen is entirely black. Full screen video without any buttons, interface lines, icons... (it's those things that will be visible after burn-in on the screen)
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I use a very dim display to save battery on the Surface or any other mobile device. The adaptive (auto) brightness feature isn't truly the best for the Surface for sure. I noticed that the screen flicks too much even though you're in the same environment. On reading about it on the web, I figured that this is a genuine problem for many on the tablet. Bad design maybe. So instead of reducing the brightness to minimum, I kept it at almost like 7-10% and voila ! The display is now as crisp as its supposed to be ! I wouldn't guarantee if it won't flick at all, but trust me, its like 90% better
Enjoy your new Surface !
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Hi,
I've also noted some light flickering issues on my Surface (that I really like) even if the auto-brightness feature is off and with 100% level.
Generally speaking, it's not visible unless :
- you're scrolling quickly through the start screen
- you're closing an app with the proper gesture
It seems that for half second the scrim flickers...is it also happening to you ?
I was considering a RMA but I'm not sure if it's more a SW problem than a HW one.
Thank you for your answer.
Fabio
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I use a very dim display to save battery on the Surface or any other mobile device. The adaptive (auto) brightness feature isn't truly the best for the Surface for sure. I noticed that the screen flicks too much even though you're in the same environment. On reading about it on the web, I figured that this is a genuine problem for many on the tablet. Bad design maybe. So instead of reducing the brightness to minimum, I kept it at almost like 7-10% and voila ! The display is now as crisp as its supposed to be ! I wouldn't guarantee if it won't flick at all, but trust me, its like 90% better
Enjoy your new Surface !
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I think its more visible when you're on the Metro UI or the Start screen. And more on when I am scrolling from the side of the screen, just like you said. Its pretty weird.
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It may look strange, but I really would like to keep the screen of the gear watch always on, at the lowest possible light setting and that when the watch detects the wrist movement, the light settings come back to the normal one.
I'm sure this will add up to very low battrey life. But if I can get a day like this, it would be great!
Thanks!
I wanted this at first, because coming from the Pebble -it's just so convenient having the screen accessible all the time and the gesture doesn't always register.My idea was that it should just be a very minimal screen in terms of pixel use to leverage the power saving qualities of the AMOLED tech. Problem is, the AMOLED screen is also known for burn-in on the phones, so I'm afraid even if we set this it would damage the watch screen in the long run (and I would be ok if I only got a day of use also, as I'm fine charging every night anyways).
There is a watchface called "AlwaysWatch" in the Samsung Gear store that's supposed to give you an always on face until the battery runs out. Problem is, it runs as an app instead of the default face and of course I'm afraid to try it due to the burn-in issue. I sent the developer a note saying make the watchface a small, but still legible digital font instead of analog and float the time around the screen periodically would get around this burn-in risk, we'll see if he adds the option.
Thanks for the info on this app (I also have a pebble ).
In order not to burn the screen, it would be preferable to change the watchface form time to time and put it in the lowet light possible...
FixB said:
Thanks for the info on this app (I also have a pebble ).
In order not to burn the screen, it would be preferable to change the watchface form time to time and put it in the lowet light possible...
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One of my disappointments besides the flaky gesture wake up is that there doesn't seem to be an ambient light sensor to trigger screen brightness changes. I would have thought that would be a no brainer for a device such as this by now.
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One of my disappointments besides the flaky gesture wake up is that there doesn't seem to be an ambient light sensor to trigger screen brightness changes. I would have thought that would be a no brainer for a device such as this by now.
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Maybe the camera light sensor in the Gear 2 could be used for that purpose?
Recently my screen has started developing strange shadows of apps that i use for longer time, like browsers, keyboard etc.
Even youtube after using for more than an hour or so give shadows on screen.
The issue is more persistent with the keyboard, as i am a heavy internet user (7-8 hrs online) and most of the time keyboard stays on the screen, the screen is showing me a persistent shadow of keyboard, initially just after using it for more than an hour the shadow is very clear and it stays even in the brightest apps and screens , later after sometime it starts to fade but never really goes away, its there always faintly.
What should I do?
Attached screenshots but i don't know if you guys can see them or not.
Edit : its on the screen (hardware)as screenshots don't have shadows, don't know if my screen is faulty
Screenshots are no good, take a picture of the physical phone screen instead.
Screen Burn-in Tool could help, it's designed for AMOLED, but it might end up having the same effect, and there should be no risk (except maybe some wasted time ).
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Screenshots are no good, take a picture of the physical phone screen instead.
Screen Burn-in Tool could help, it's designed for AMOLED, but it might end up having the same effect, and there should be no risk (except maybe some wasted time ).
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Thanks but i think its better to get the screen replaced because the burn-in tool is a temporary solution, it again comes up after few hours and usually goes away in the morning as i don't use phone at night..
Also screen flickering is visible on very close inspection of some dark screens and checkered wallpapers
MY S22 ULTRA, 5 months old, began 48 hours ago to show the background of the lock screen (active display with a black background, in a very oscillating dark green color.
It only happens when the active display is activated, and sometimes inside with a dark background when it tries to adapt the brightness to the environment, it occurs as a kind of almost imperceptible flickering.
Internally the navigation, videos, photos and others are all perfect.
Things I have already tried:
Wipe Cache
Toggle between all screen resolutions and display options etc etc
With the mobile turned off while charging, if I press the power button to see the percentage of charge, that green is also seen.
I was reading that it may be a screen failure, but I still refuse to leave the phone in repair (150GB of internal information already copied), I don't know whether to wait for an update or what else to try.
Any suggestion?
Sorry for my english
I don't have answers for your issue, but I had exactly the same issue. I damaged my screen and it started appearing right after the damage to the screen. I don't use AOD, but mine did the same thing when it was put on charge.... no black screen, just the weird green. I turned off adaptive display and it disappeared. Had 2 updates since then and put back adaptive display and now the green is still gone. Not sure if was an update or the adaptive display change that fixed the issue
paulbcn said:
MY S22 ULTRA, 5 months old, began 48 hours ago to show the background of the lock screen (active display with a black background, in a very oscillating dark green color.
It only happens when the active display is activated, and sometimes inside with a dark background when it tries to adapt the brightness to the environment, it occurs as a kind of almost imperceptible flickering.
Internally the navigation, videos, photos and others are all perfect.
Things I have already tried:
Wipe Cache
Toggle between all screen resolutions and display options etc etc
With the mobile turned off while charging, if I press the power button to see the percentage of charge, that green is also seen.
I was reading that it may be a screen failure, but I still refuse to leave the phone in repair (150GB of internal information already copied), I don't know whether to wait for an update or what else to try.
Any suggestion?
Sorry for my english
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Are you have newest soft?
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Are you have newest soft?
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No, only official android updates, last 1ยบ august
I had that problem in my note 8, had to send it to warranty to replace the display circuit and the display because of burn in pixels.
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I had that problem in my note 8, had to send it to warranty to replace the display circuit and the display because of burn in pixels.
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Can it get worse or will it always stay like this?
I just replaced the screen protector and it's still the same sometimes, not always, it seems to improve things but it only appears if I force the situation with dark environments.
How do you explain if it was a screen problem, within the android there is no display problem in photos, videos etc etc
It only affects the active display and while the adaptive display is active, that's why I don't want to send it to warranty so soon, I even hope that with Android 13 it will be solved!
To those who had to change the screen, did it come under warranty and the fault has been recognized without having to pay anything?
Obviously, if it were the screen, it would have to be some sensor or sector of the screen that only acts under certain conditions and I don't know at the hardware level what it could be, if any sensor or sector of the screen is internally damaged, it is very strange.
Thanks for answering.
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Can it get worse or will it always stay like this?
I just replaced the screen protector and it's still the same sometimes, not always, it seems to improve things but it only appears if I force the situation with dark environments.
How do you explain if it was a screen problem, within the android there is no display problem in photos, videos etc etc
It only affects the active display and while the adaptive display is active, that's why I don't want to send it to warranty so soon, I even hope that with Android 13 it will be solved!
To those who had to change the screen, did it come under warranty and the fault has been recognized without having to pay anything?
Obviously, if it were the screen, it would have to be some sensor or sector of the screen that only acts under certain conditions and I don't know at the hardware level what it could be, if any sensor or sector of the screen is internally damaged, it is very strange.
Thanks for answering.
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It was everything free, they replace the display circuit controler, the display and battery (mandatory on note 8 if you replace the display they replace also the battery).
The problem was stable, no true black, allways greenish, sometimes flick and turned true black for couple of seconds and returned to that greenish black. Was horrible, my luck was i had 24 months of warrany and this happend on my 22th month!
Hi, I have same problem for 2 weeks now. Seems to occur when in low light placed and adaptive brightness is on. Did you find solution?
OLED displays gets burn-in almost exclusively in places where there are a lot of elements that stay completely white all the time. Most notoriously, status bar and navbar. For some people who text a lot, I have seen burn-in for the call and video call buttons, as well as individual keyboard letters.
My question is, is there an app, or a theming engine to be precise, that would allow the user to set a time interval, during which those high persistence elements of the picture could be dimmed over time? For example, user unlocks the phone and starts typing a message - navbar, statusbar, keyboard letters are all 100% white. They remain white, then after 60 seconds they start to dim, and after 120 seconds they are at 30% brightness. So when you're having long texting sessions, keys would be dim enough so you can make them out, but since they are not leaving your muscle memory you can type just as well as if it was at 100% brightness - but you save a lot of energy and thus substantially reduce the potential for burn-in. And if you're outdoors and can't make out what the time is after those 180 seconds, you gently pull down the notification bar and it resets to 100%. Something like that.
I can't be the first person to think of this. Moreover, I think AOSP devs realized this at around version 9 and dropped the overall brightness of the status/navbar to 80%, but it remains like that the whole time. What I am proposing would be infinitely more efficient. Anyone here knows something that's able to do that?
Avoid use in direct sunlight. Seconds not minutes if you do. Use manual brightness control and keep below 50%. Typically I comfortable use 30-40% indoors. Excessive brightness prematurely kills AMOLED displays needlessly. Excessive heat with the display on ie again direct sunlight should be avoided.
Use dark mode. The red pixels are longest live, blue the shortest; heavy blue or white usage will degrade the display the fastest.
Use icon packs and layouts that support pixel conservation. Rotate widgets and icons periodically.
This heavily use N10+ has over 8k hours on its display. There is no detectable fading, failed pixels, color inaccuracies, nothing; it remains perfect. It's a mirror image next to my new N10+ with less then 50 hours on it.
AMOLED displays can be very long lived. Everything on this homepage gets rotated slightly from time to time, even the page number icons ie 3 instead of 2.
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OLED displays gets burn-in almost exclusively in places where there are a lot of elements that stay completely white all the time. Most notoriously, status bar and navbar. For some people who text a lot, I have seen burn-in for the call and video call buttons, as well as individual keyboard letters.
My question is, is there an app, or a theming engine to be precise, that would allow the user to set a time interval, during which those high persistence elements of the picture could be dimmed over time? For example, user unlocks the phone and starts typing a message - navbar, statusbar, keyboard letters are all 100% white. They remain white, then after 60 seconds they start to dim, and after 120 seconds they are at 30% brightness. So when you're having long texting sessions, keys would be dim enough so you can make them out, but since they are not leaving your muscle memory you can type just as well as if it was at 100% brightness - but you save a lot of energy and thus substantially reduce the potential for burn-in. And if you're outdoors and can't make out what the time is after those 180 seconds, you gently pull down the notification bar and it resets to 100%. Something like that.
I can't be the first person to think of this. Moreover, I think AOSP devs realized this at around version 9 and dropped the overall brightness of the status/navbar to 80%, but it remains like that the whole time. What I am proposing would be infinitely more efficient. Anyone here knows something that's able to do tha
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Avoid use in direct sunlight. Seconds not minutes if you do. Use manual brightness control and keep below 50%. Typically I comfortable use 30-40% indoors. Excessive brightness prematurely kills AMOLED displays needlessly. Excessive heat with the display on ie again direct sunlight should be avoided.
Use dark mode. The red pixels are longest live, blue the shortest; heavy blue or white usage will degrade the display the fastest.
Use icon packs and layouts that support pixel conservation. Rotate widgets and icons periodically.
This heavily use N10+ has over 8k hours on its display. There is no detectable fading, failed pixels, color inaccuracies, nothing; it remains perfect. It's a mirror image next to my new N10+ with less then 50 hours on it.
AMOLED displays can be very long lived. Everything on this homepage gets rotated slightly from time to time, even the page number icons ie 3 instead of 2.
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johnnyboy041 said:
OLED displays gets burn-in almost exclusively in places where there are a lot of elements that stay completely white all the time. Most notoriously, status bar and navbar. For some people who text a lot, I have seen burn-in for the call and video call buttons, as well as individual keyboard letters.
My question is, is there an app, or a theming engine to be precise, that would allow the user to set a time interval, during which those high persistence elements of the picture could be dimmed over time? For example, user unlocks the phone and starts typing a message - navbar, statusbar, keyboard letters are all 100% white. They remain white, then after 60 seconds they start to dim, and after 120 seconds they are at 30% brightness. So when you're having long texting sessions, keys would be dim enough so you can make them out, but since they are not leaving your muscle memory you can type just as well as if it was at 100% brightness - but you save a lot of energy and thus substantially reduce the potential for burn-in. And if you're outdoors and can't make out what the time is after those 180 seconds, you gently pull down the notification bar and it resets to 100%. Something like that.
I can't be the first person to think of this. Moreover, I think AOSP devs realized this at around version 9 and dropped the overall brightness of the status/navbar to 80%, but it remains like that the whole time. What I am proposing would be infinitely more efficient. Anyone here knows something that's able to do that?
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I think you could look into immersive mode, It has many different names Another option talk in developer forums fr your phone , otherwise its hidden somwhere in your settings
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Is there a way to prevent burn in when using the phone in a bright environment? My job requires a bright environment.
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Is there a way to prevent burn in when using the phone in a bright environment? My job requires a bright environment.
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No other than the mods I already mentioned. AMOLEDs have a finite lifespan that's proportionately shorter or longer dependant on brightness level. The brightest stars burn the fastest...
All you can do in that case is use at minimum needed viewing brightness and try to use in shaded areas.
Maybe use a work phone so you don't burn up your personal phone.
I am under the impression that none of you even read what I asked in full. I asked a very precise question regarding a particular way to mitigate burn in, nothing on HOW to to mitigate it, as I hinted in the name of this thread.
1. "Avoid use in direct sunlight." Excuse me? Phones are meant to be used outdoors, and they have been since the birth of the idea of a mobile phone.
2. I don't have a Samsung phone. What I meant was something more universal, like a Magisk module, or a root theme engine.
3. With due respect sir, everything you mentioned is more of a paranoid hassle than an automated instant-fix. What I proposed, on the other hand, is.
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I am under the impression that none of you even read what I asked in full. I asked a very precise question regarding a particular way to mitigate burn in, nothing on HOW to to mitigate it, as I hinted in the name of this thread.
1. "Avoid use in direct sunlight." Excuse me? Phones are meant to be used outdoors, and they have been since the birth of the idea of a mobile phone.
2. I don't have a Samsung phone. What I meant was something more universal, like a Magisk module, or a root theme engine.
3. With due respect sir, everything you mentioned is more of a paranoid hassle than an automated instant-fix. What I proposed, on the other hand, is.
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Welcome to the planet. The more you run it in direct sunlight the higher the risks including outright failure. That sound better?
This isn't a backlight LCD* or a LED display. OLEDs are less robust than LEDs.
Due respect my mass... prudence isn't paranoia.
8+k hours here and no detectable damage of any kind.
* direct sunlight can fry LCDs too.
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Welcome to the planet. The more you run it in direct sunlight the higher the risks including outright failure. That sound better?
This isn't a backlight LCD* or a LED display. OLEDs are less robust than LEDs.
Due respect my mass... prudence isn't paranoia.
8+k hours here and no detectable damage of any kind.
* direct sunlight can fry LCDs too.
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Dude, nobody sets their phones to sunbathe for no reason. If the situation requires me, I'm using it the open sun. That hasn't damaged any OLED screen I used in the past 10 years. You ain't gonna convince anyone to rearrange widgets every week giving a meteor strike argument, especially with that attitude. Now please, are we over useless internet forum fights? I'm not negating any technical point you made, and what you did is certainly a way to deal with the issue, but it is objectively not practical for 99% of users.