Hi Guys
I am researching on net neutrality. I need your help.
I wanted to know the difficulties you face while developing an app.
For example, I read in a white paper that if you were to create an app back in 2006 you need to contact an aggregator, who will charge you for his services. Then you have to buy a short code, which also costs and then meet the requirements of cell phone companies and carriers.
What are restriction layed down by the carrier and who can they destroy the innovation in digital commerce?
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Rajdeep
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Hello everyone.
I am working on a business thesis about mobile commerce (m-commerce) and I am trying to get the thoughts & opinions of consumers. It would be very helpful to my studies if some of you would volunteer to discuss and answer a few of the questions listed below. Feel free to comment on others’ thoughts. Do not worry if your opinions are or are not the same as others. All opinions matter.
A very basic definition of mobile commerce is the purchase of goods or services with a mobile device. However, our discussion is focused on mobile phones.
Some examples of m-commerce include downloading software & ringtones, paying for bus/movie tickets, accessing banking information, and etc. on your phone.
Please discuss any of the questions below that you would like.
* Do you use your phone for making any financial transactions or purchases? If yes, what type? If no, why not?
* Have you had any experiences with using mobile phones for purchases? If yes, please explain. If no, why not?
* What mobile phone services do you find yourself using the most and which ones do you find the most useful? Why?
* Does price effect your decision to use mobile phone services? If yes, please explain.
* What might motivate you to use mobile commerce?
* Do you have a need for on-the-go internet connectivity? If yes, how do you achieve this goal? Please mention the types of devices and/or services you use for this.
All comments are appreciated! Thank you
EDIT: Sorry, If this thread is in the wrong section please move.
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Maybe I'm asking for too much? Even answering one question would be a great help!
Thanks in advance
I'll bite...
I've never had the guts to make a purchase over my phone. I guess I don't have a reason to have confidence that my information will be secure. I prefer my home PC.
I do check my bank account balance via text every once in awhile. My bank offers the service and has guaranteed it.
I don't have a "need" for a data plan, I live with Wifi only - which is available everywhere I go mostly. I don't feel I "need" a cell phone at all, let alone a PPC. I like my Raphael. I like it a lot, but it is definately not a need.
I use the calendar and contacts to death (sync'ed). I use the phone and text. I use my PPC as a floppy to transfer files. I use wifi to get weather and read the news or watch a movie in bed. I much prefer my PC to browse porn or play games. Oh yeah, trying to do any productive work on my PPC can be done, but is terribly slow. It's good as an option if it's the only thing available.
To answer what might motivate me to use mobile commerce - I'd need confidence in security, I'd need zero headaches from hardware or software completing a transaction, and I'd need the product to be cheaper than if I waited to to get home to do it on my PC (or some form of incentive.)
I'm a cheap bastard though.
Well that's my honest opinions, hope u get something out of it. GL on your essay, dude!
Thank you very much for your input eudaemonic.
Anyone else care to comment?..don't be shy
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Hoping for just a few more comments.
Hi I have an app idea that will be (if implemented) profitable methinks- similar apps are available - it is for specialist field and is of an interactive map/ navigation type- the idea is very obvious and probbaly quite simple to implement with the feature design phase all done and explainable in a brief synopsis- i am clueless as to how to implement it though
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would anyone like to help build it and share the credit?
i have no money to pay anytoine just an idea that will definitely pay off to some extent- whoever does this first has a captive market so to speak!
I spoke with my brother who is in the industry as a maarketing project manager- not a developer and he agrees that it is well worth doing.
the features the app would require are-
interactive map with user editable gps data additions, tagging in real time, possible photographs.
updates made by various professional bodies with information feeds on around 600
+fixed locations and areas, route planning facility directly affected by data from these feeds, these are the main features of the app but the capacity for expansion is seemingly endless- preferably a uk south east based developer.
this app also has the potential to save lives /prevent accidents as the data is of real world importnace and is already accessed by many as an essential reference- possible licensing by and definitely appreciated by the professional and govt bodies with respoinsibilities inhe speciliaist field.
anyone? i bet one of you guys could build ths in your sleep!
i would not know where to start however, there is a siumliar app out there it does not do the same thing as my idea but it would provide a template for the concept- trust me this idea is dynamite and my industry source- ie my brother tells me it is instantly saleable to the relevant bodies fort aa fee of around 50k!
but is worthless to me without the relevant skillset in an individul i can trust, cmon! whats to lose?>
ok anyone want to teach me how to do this on my lonesome?
i usually spend all day chopping trees down which is why im asking for help , not sure if i haave the time for leaarning computer progrmming but...
Perhaps you should be a little more specific as to what the app will be good for. I know you probably don't want to tell this everyone, but you'll have to eventually anyway.
are you lot on this forum an honest bunch? thats the question...
i m very aware that an intellectual community such as yours is by its nature ius n open nd honest one but bill gates and steve jobs are still bastards who got rich of your back!
the complexity of the app or the potential for its future complexity and added feature sets is one of the apps strong points as is its ingenuity in its area of application!
It would mean the safety apsect of the thing could be provided for free which kinda is the whole intellectual property business side of things hence my hesitation in being candid..i dont want to be charged in the future for an idea i had myself to save lives!
I was reckless in sharing an invention in the past- 12 months later my mate ws on dragons den flogging my idea!
it wasnt groundbreaking but he nicked it and never sent me a cheque out of the 150 grand one of them ponied up!!
but... the basic idea is very similar to chris boardmans pothole reporting app for cyclists- generating repair requests to uk councils- my bro happened to have worked on this very app and he said the development tools are readily avilable to create mine own whgich might bvew easiuer if tha button hADNT FALLEn off my old comp and i actually owned smartphone.
hence my request-
i can see the app in my head and can describe evry function of it very well but are you the man to describe it to?
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i m very aware that an intellectual community such as yours is by its nature is an open and honest one
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ah well, was worth a try- can someone recommend me a good starting point or the best book for learning the android sdk?
I know everyone has their own ideas about politics. So if you are here to flame away about #OWS please do so in another place (start on FB). I am here as a mobile javascript developer who has been rooting and un-bricking Android phones for over 2 years, and as a supporter of the "cause".
So please flamers and trolls just move on..
There is no reason for me to explain here what #OWS is, and what it's about. Unless you have been living under a rock I think its pretty obvious that we are living in some very "strange times" to say the least. So strange that I am having to actually reach out to the XDA community to ask for help in doing such a project.
I am not a ROM builder, but I do know what's possible and hopefully by being apart of this process with some veteren ROM builders out there I can learn the tricks of the trade myself. Hell, if I don't get a response, then I suppose I will be doing this by myself none the less. But, I have hope that there are others that would see the benefits of this project becoming a reality.
#OWS and many other resistance movements have been infiltrated by government security, intelligence, and police units. This has made the act of coordinating "Actions" almost impossible because of leaks to Twitter, and the use of public message boards. There are actions going on every day in NYC right now as we speak, and this will only increase as we move into Spring and Summer. #OWS is finding that more often the police and security forces are there to meet them in mass force because of a lack of security and encryption practices on #OWS part.
Now, to us.. The idea of TOR and Proxies is not new, but to someone who isn't as technologically inclined as you the idea of a Rooted phone is sometimes hard to grasp. That is why I am looking to start a project like this.
So what's the project? I would like to enable OWS to be able to flash MetroPCS or some other kind of prepaid smart phones with a Rooted ROM and all the Android TOR tools installed. Orbot, Gibberbot, and OrWebV2. A doc will be created to explain basic Jabber client set-up, but we are obviously looking to host our own Jabber Server behind TOR if we can that these devices will eventually be used to connect with.
Please Google: guardianproject orbot
There will be some sort of centralized coordination of Jabber accounts on this server, but that is completely separate from what I am looking to do here. Access to these chat rooms will only be allowed when vetting of the individual has been done. Then and only when the community feels safe will someone be given a login/access to the private server. I want you, to work with me to explore the best method for us to do this. Lets start with US pre-paid, and then work out way to Europe.
There are many uses for TOR and Anonymization (mis?) software for mobile devices. As the threat of SOPA and PIPA and government firewalls continue to hold like gloomy clouds over America's conscious. We know that we must be prepared for when they turn the "internet off". Which they have already done during one protest that was organized by Anonymous. They shut down all cell sites in the BART station where the protest was happening, making coordination with the outside world impossible. The only way we will understand how we can be better prepared, is to start experimenting in the real world now. We can solve these problems. I want to solve them. Do you? We have to start somewhere, and before I and others can dev up a P2P bluetooth relay service of some sorts.. we need to get this done first.
I bet many of you are saying, "Simple beans".. and maybe so. but this simple project could mean the difference of people remaining free and people being in prison. I want guidance, and I would love feedback. This has become one of the most important projects in my life. I hope it may become one of yours.
So, any questions.. if not, then lets get to work and contact me! I would like to deliver this to #OWS by May 1st since I will be in NYC for May 1st General Strike.
Thanks, PM or reply if interested in helping out..
@Johnsin
you are on wrong forum in this forum you will not get more view just send pm to mods he will move to right place
Thanks.. will do. and we got movement on this..
Hey people reading this! So this is the deal I live in spain and my school is discussing make mobile phones such as android and blackberry allowed in teh school. But there´s a problem in Spain there´s a law that says you aren´t allowed to take a picture of somebody and upload it to internet without there permission. yes dumb I know but that´s the law and the school doesn´t want the students to get int trouble nor do they want to get into legal twists and so on. So my question is there a possibility to develop an app that uses the camera minimal usage like using no intake of light = black. So other apps can´t access the sue of the camera. And have it sync with the schools servers with the latest calender and so on. But the twist is is it possible without root access. I´m not very experienced in the android field but I would appreciate some heads up on this. My head tells me it would be possible on black berry android but not ios.
Thankyou for all your answers in advance, and also thankyou for you taking your time to read this.:good:
Simple no tech answer. Tape a small piece of paper over the lense ,
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I am a dishonest man, and you can always honestly trust a dishonest man to be dishonest. Honestly it's the honest ones you have to watch out for.
I don´t think you understand
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Simple no tech answer. Tape a small piece of paper over the lense ,
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I am a dishonest man, and you can always honestly trust a dishonest man to be dishonest. Honestly it's the honest ones you have to watch out for.
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How it would be useful is cause the networks proxy server would send a push notification that autostarts the app and drops the connection to the device if the app was exited/terminated by the user. I know it´s possible to do it the question is, is it possible to do it without root accsess. That´s how schoool keep themselves out of trouble cause you wouldn´t be allowed to use your phone without being connected to the network. There will also be distruptors set around the school so no tele signals can be used which essentially kills of the problem with calls and SMS. Thankyou for your answer anyways tho
laxan96 said:
How it would be useful is cause the networks proxy server would send a push notification that autostarts the app and drops the connection to the device if the app was exited/terminated by the user. I know it´s possible to do it the question is, is it possible to do it without root accsess. That´s how schoool keep themselves out of trouble cause you wouldn´t be allowed to use your phone without being connected to the network. There will also be distruptors set around the school so no tele signals can be used which essentially kills of the problem with calls and SMS. Thankyou for your answer anyways tho
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There are some problems with this logic:
1.) The connection to the device will most likely be a wi-fi connection, therefore killing that connection will not stop someone from uploading a picture using the mobile network
2.) You are talking about the school setting up cell disruptors around the campus. You might want to check whether this is legal with the laws in your country, as here in the US it is a felony to tamper with the cell networks using any sort of cell network disruptor.
3.) Since the camera can be used without a network, what is to stop someone from taking a picture of someone, then going home to upload it?
Now, to answer your questions, we would need more information. Are these devices being provided by the school, or are they BYOD (students bring their own devices)? If they are provided by the school, you can create a custom rom that does not have any assets for the camera, therefore any camera app would be forced to close, as they can't access the resources it needs. This would require root access. If it is BYOD, you face a much larger issue as forcing students to install an app that could potentially alter data on their devices might be in conflict with privacy laws in place in your country. Again, you would have to conduct more research into the legal issues that are brought up.
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There are some problems with this logic:
1.) The connection to the device will most likely be a wi-fi connection, therefore killing that connection will not stop someone from uploading a picture using the mobile network
2.) You are talking about the school setting up cell disruptors around the campus. You might want to check whether this is legal with the laws in your country, as here in the US it is a felony to tamper with the cell networks using any sort of cell network disruptor.
3.) Since the camera can be used without a network, what is to stop someone from taking a picture of someone, then going home to upload it?
Now, to answer your questions, we would need more information. Are these devices being provided by the school, or are they BYOD (students bring their own devices)? If they are provided by the school, you can create a custom rom that does not have any assets for the camera, therefore any camera app would be forced to close, as they can't access the resources it needs. This would require root access. If it is BYOD, you face a much larger issue as forcing students to install an app that could potentially alter data on their devices might be in conflict with privacy laws in place in your country. Again, you would have to conduct more research into the legal issues that are brought up.
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Oh it is legal there and may be come legal here if things don't change soon. That same law will becoming to us soon don't doubt it. With the privacy concerns coming up we will see this sooner or later.
No to answer the OP. No you won't be able to do this without root. There are some companies that sell devices without cameras just for this purpose as alot of business don't allow camera phones in the building. That maybe you other option.
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zelendel said:
Oh it is legal there and may be come legal here if things don't change soon. That same law will becoming to us soon don't doubt it. With the privacy concerns coming up we will see this sooner or later.
No to answer the OP. No you won't be able to do this without root. There are some companies that sell devices without cameras just for this purpose as alot of business don't allow camera phones in the building. That maybe you other option.
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Are you referring to the use of cell disruptors? I highly doubt that this would ever become legal in the states, as the potential for abuse is too great. There is also other concerns that these can be used against law enforcement to block their communication, which could be bad during instances of conducting a search warrant, or to block emergency communication, which is why the use of cell disruptors is prohibited by the FCC in the first place.
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Are you referring to the use of cell disruptors? I highly doubt that this would ever become legal in the states, as the potential for abuse is too great. There is also other concerns that these can be used against law enforcement to block their communication, which could be bad during instances of conducting a search warrant, or to block emergency communication, which is why the use of cell disruptors is prohibited by the FCC in the first place.
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We will see. I already keep 2 one in my car and one in my kids car. Activated when the car starts. If they do become legal completely I am sure that law enforcement will have other means.
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syung said:
There are some problems with this logic:
1.) The connection to the device will most likely be a wi-fi connection, therefore killing that connection will not stop someone from uploading a picture using the mobile network
2.) You are talking about the school setting up cell disruptors around the campus. You might want to check whether this is legal with the laws in your country, as here in the US it is a felony to tamper with the cell networks using any sort of cell network disruptor.
3.) Since the camera can be used without a network, what is to stop someone from taking a picture of someone, then going home to upload it?
Now, to answer your questions, we would need more information. Are these devices being provided by the school, or are they BYOD (students bring their own devices)? If they are provided by the school, you can create a custom rom that does not have any assets for the camera, therefore any camera app would be forced to close, as they can't access the resources it needs. This would require root access. If it is BYOD, you face a much larger issue as forcing students to install an app that could potentially alter data on their devices might be in conflict with privacy laws in place in your country. Again, you would have to conduct more research into the legal issues that are brought up.
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zelendel said:
Oh it is legal there and may be come legal here if things don't change soon. That same law will becoming to us soon don't doubt it. With the privacy concerns coming up we will see this sooner or later.
No to answer the OP. No you won't be able to do this without root. There are some companies that sell devices without cameras just for this purpose as alot of business don't allow camera phones in the building. That maybe you other option.
Wayne Tech Nexus
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To answer you question yes this is a BYOD type of deal and how the school are going to keep themselves out of trouble, is that you aren´t allowed to use a cell phone without being connected to the network. The cell disruptors are legal and the privacy concerns are also green since there is ofc going to be a terms & conditions agreement to accept or decline the first time you open up the application. Ina ll honesty the school just wanna cover there asses so they don´t have problems in the future. So it´s not there problem anymore if someone kills the app and the phone disconnects from the network and they take a picture. Most people don´t use an autostart manager so it won´t be a huge problem either.
Now you say that it isn´t possible to do this without root access then we got an issue that isn´t solvable. Or is it just to complicated to develop? From what i understand they have the resources to do it if it´s possible.
Why I got involved in all this was cause I had kinda the same ideas and I was talking to one of the teachers and he told me that the principal teacher had similar ideas. So I went and talked to him, my thought process were let´s put our ideas together. Then he told me about this issue. And finally why I´m asking you all this is cause I don´t have any experience in programming alltho I do have a lot of experience with both computers and cell phones.
Thankx yet again for all your replies so far I appreciate it a lot!
Dear all,
I am a long time XDA member but just wanted to keep my identity safe from my company. Therefore using new account
My company is a very large company but in Asia and they are taking advantage of the employees and myself. The situation is that they are implementing a BYOD policy and we have to bring out own phones and laptops to use with work email. But at the same time they are implementing Data Leakage Protection software which they are forcing us to install on our own devices. I believe this is highly unethical and I have approached some lawyers and though not illegal they also feel unethical. However they have no recourse but to tell me to document everything. Anyways pretty useless.
The DLP software is essentially snoopware and logs and backs up files being transferred. Their argument is that we are using their network etc etc. I mention mention that we can use other networks to connect to the internet. Anyways, tired of arguing. Anyways it is a take it or leave it situation. I would like to know is there a way to access company email through Android without connecting to their exchange or active sync. The company has webmail and I looked at blue mail and it seems to be able to use http but its very buggy. I want to log or monitor what is being sent out from my phone to the company. I have been using the browser to access my company email but that is very manual. I was planning to carry two phones, but it also means I have to get two data plans which I argued should be paid by company... but of course all these measures are to cut cost from the company POV so they will not pay.
I also looking for a way to block the DLP software on the laptop but that is another forum.
EDIT: Apologies I think I posted in the wrong forum but I would like to stop my company from hacking /snooping my phone...
Thanks for listening and any advice
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