[Q] Xperia Z3/Note Edge , which one should i get? - Note Edge Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi people , as the title says , i'm gonna get myslef a new android device but i can't decide which one.
I've had a Galaxy Note 2 for almost 2 years now and i love it but the lack of exclusive and usefull features (stock firmware) got me a bit bored of it.
That's why i'm asking you guys which phone i should get. I love touchwizz , i love it's simplicity but what i hate in tw is the lack of updates with samsung and even when we get new updates almost every samsung phones feels like it was a device from 5 years ago. On one side the Note Edge seems to have some great features to itself , not just the curved screen but the design and the S pen . But still , with all its specialties i feel like that if i buy the note edge i won't be satisfied because in less than a year it will be considered obsolete by Samsung and by brands that creates accesssories for it and i'll be a bit sad like i am with my note 2. On the other hand the xperia z3 has quite a few tricks in its "bag". The latest lollipop update without much sony stuff on it , a maginificent 20.7 megapixels camera , Xreality and other interesting and usefull features , the Z3 feels like it is still a big part of android overall.
However the z3 doesn't have a big screen like the edge(i love the big screen) and it does not have the s pen . So , should i get a note edge with less features but an s pen and a bigger screen or a Z3 with the latest updates and technologies a smartphone can propose but a smaller screen?
Please don't post trolls , i really need some advices because i'm lost , these phones are not designed for the same usage , one is a skecthy yet great swiss knife(note edge) and one is a classy organized "business" phone which can do as much as the other but in in a smaller perspective (z3)
The choice is hard so please help me.
Post scriptum : Sorry for the long text but i couldn't explain myslef without less words

Heya I have used both phones and I would say the Edge has more features than the Sony by far,
yeah the Sony has a better camera so if u need camera id recommend the Sony but if u want overall features then id go for the edge, (not that the camera on the edge is bad)
I have the edge myself and must say its outstanding and different from most phones! you also have the choice of the pen, you have lots of features on the edge screen itself and the screen is gorgeous and its size is just perfect in my opinion, as for lollipop and xreality the edge has lollipop and the edge gallery uses samsungs own image enhancing, as for sound quality its ok but could use Viper to make better if wanted, also u have face tag on the edge and you can also get themes for TW (small mod available on the forums)

Thanks for the advice , i hope i'll be able to get the note edge soon , it's quite expensive compared to the z3

First of all I have to admit that my opinion is completely biased and on top of that I have never even seen or used the Xperia, but with all of that being said I'd still suggest getting the Note Edge [emoji16] [emoji16] lol. It's hands down the best experience I've ever had with any phone I've owned, and like many people on here probably have I've had a ton of different phones. I know I'm biased though because as soon as I got the first Note phone that came out I was immediately hooked, and since then I've always said that the only phone I'll ever get from now on (as long as they continue to make them) will be a galaxy Note phone. This Galaxy Note Edge does not disappoint whatsoever and like I said before it's the best experience I've ever had with a phone.. Period!! Anyway best of luck to ya and hopefully you'll enjoy it as much as the rest of us Edge users do!! [emoji16] [emoji16]

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Note 3 vs Xperia Z2

Hi,
I would just like few opinions about the comparison of this 2 smartphone/phablets...
For the past 4 years I've been using only iphones... Now I want to move to android but not sure which one would be better.
I can see there is a lot of complains on Sony camera and problems with gaps etc...
Thanks
S54B32 said:
Hi,
I would just like few opinions about the comparison of this 2 smartphone/phablets...
For the past 4 years I've been using only iphones... Now I want to move to android but not sure which one would be better.
I can see there is a lot of complains on Sony camera and problems with gaps etc...
Thanks
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note 3 is better
S54B32 said:
Hi,
I would just like few opinions about the comparison of this 2 smartphone/phablets...
For the past 4 years I've been using only iphones... Now I want to move to android but not sure which one would be better.
I can see there is a lot of complains on Sony camera and problems with gaps etc...
Thanks
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if you use the camera go for Z2 for sure. if you think about note 3 DONT BUY EXYNOS VERSION.
ereneren564 said:
if you use the camera go for Z2 for sure. if you think about note 3 DONT BUY EXYNOS VERSION.
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I don't use so much the camera . When I use it it's usually at racing, rally and other stuff so I need the camera to be quick.
S54B32 said:
I don't use so much the camera . When I use it it's usually at racing, rally and other stuff so I need the camera to be quick.
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So maybe the new LG G3 might be interesting for you as it uses a laser to auto focus which should theoretically be quicker than the conventional auto focus.
If you ask Note 3 owners, whether you should buy Note 3 or Z2, you will be recommended to buy Note 3. Obviously because you ask people who love using Note 3 and thereby have it.
Same thing the other way around.
You are the one, who is buying a new phone, thereby you have to look at the pros and cons of both phones and make the decision
S54B32 said:
Hi,
I would just like few opinions about the comparison of this 2 smartphone/phablets...
For the past 4 years I've been using only iphones... Now I want to move to android but not sure which one would be better.
I can see there is a lot of complains on Sony camera and problems with gaps etc...
Thanks
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I have both devices.
To be frank, both got pros and cons. Both is actually have similar (I repeat similar) specs, but not the same.
Physical size, both almost the same, N3 win in slightly bigger size (in mm calculation).
Internal storage comes in 16gb for Z2, whereby N3 in 32gb (at least here in SG, this is the internal storage size).
RAM is the same 3 gigs (both are smooth).
Battery 3200 for Z2, and 3100 for N3. But so far usage (my personal usage), Z2 has a better power management (both I use without power saving mode).
Camera, no need to say. Rear camera Z2 has a bigger megapixels (20 vs 13) But Z2 loose on the front camera. So if you like to do selfie, it sucks
The sound to be frank Z2 is nicer in my opinion. A lot of my friends and relatives said sony xperia got a bad sound quality especially when plug in the earphone. But this Z2 is nice. I tested using the same earphone on my Z2 and N3, Z2 is much better.
Custom ROM, N3 (especially N9005) got more custom ROM compare to Z2 (maybe Z2 is still new device).
On the other side which Z2 will never win N3 (or note series) is the S-pen. If you like/need to use S-pen for your daily driver (like me), N3 is all the way win. To be frank, I need the S-pen (and all its features). That's why I also never use CM/AOSP base, even I know CM/AOSP is much faster compare to TW.
But when carrying Z2, I don't need to scare that my phone touch water on the rainy day. whereby N3, I need to be careful. So when I'm doin my outdoor activities/work, and I need to use to capture pictures, Z2 will be quite handy and useful at any conditions.
Z2 front and back are tempered glass. So have to be careful not to drop it, otherwise it will break. And better put the screen protector for both side (if you are quite careless in handling phone), to avoid scratches.
So in my opinion, both are good phones with its own pros and cons.
M8 ? G3?
from what i have seen so far.....i would suggest Z2 if S-pen isnt that big of an issue.....i hardly ever use my spen...except maybe to jot down some notes so i use AOSP roms as TW is laggy sometimes...i would even go on to say the Z2 is a better survivor than the note 3..... just saw the drop test for the Z2. NOT A SINGLE CRACK ON ANY OF ITS GLASS SURFACES!!!! so its tough.... tougher i dare say than the note 3 as its screen broke on the drop test.... as for sound... i know for a fact Z2 is better....screen...it comes down to preference....if you like mad colors note 3....if you want natural colors go for the IPS on Z2...battery rating seemed really good for the Z2 as well....all in all...if you dont use spen all that much...which does tend to happen to a lot of note users...then i would suggest go for the Z2
however....i would like to mention that modding Sony's flagships are much harder than from Samsung's ...... and unlocking bootloaders in Sony always leads to some function failing.... in the Z which i had....the Bravia engine wouldnt work & in the Z1..the camera didnt work...or something related to camera...not 100% sure yet ....Samsung on the other hand is much easier to mod in my opinion....although the introduction of KNOX has brought on some headaches
I will stick to Note 3, this is a phone from the past for the future, so will wait until Note 4. concerning Z2 not tempting at all against Note 3 not even LG G3, Note 3 still has the best developers support, has elegant look, has the fancy S pen ( might not use a lot but having it is a go, helped me a lot with notes and multitasking), has a decent camera with smart stabilization, I love it.
antique_sonic said:
I have both devices.
To be frank, both got pros and cons. Both is actually have similar (I repeat similar) specs, but not the same.
Physical size, both almost the same, N3 win in slightly bigger size (in mm calculation).
Internal storage comes in 16gb for Z2, whereby N3 in 32gb (at least here in SG, this is the internal storage size).
RAM is the same 3 gigs (both are smooth).
Battery 3200 for Z2, and 3100 for N3. But so far usage (my personal usage), Z2 has a better power management (both I use without power saving mode).
Camera, no need to say. Rear camera Z2 has a bigger megapixels (20 vs 13) But Z2 loose on the front camera. So if you like to do selfie, it sucks
The sound to be frank Z2 is nicer in my opinion. A lot of my friends and relatives said sony xperia got a bad sound quality especially when plug in the earphone. But this Z2 is nice. I tested using the same earphone on my Z2 and N3, Z2 is much better.
Custom ROM, N3 (especially N9005) got more custom ROM compare to Z2 (maybe Z2 is still new device).
On the other side which Z2 will never win N3 (or note series) is the S-pen. If you like/need to use S-pen for your daily driver (like me), N3 is all the way win. To be frank, I need the S-pen (and all its features). That's why I also never use CM/AOSP base, even I know CM/AOSP is much faster compare to TW.
But when carrying Z2, I don't need to scare that my phone touch water on the rainy day. whereby N3, I need to be careful. So when I'm doin my outdoor activities/work, and I need to use to capture pictures, Z2 will be quite handy and useful at any conditions.
Z2 front and back are tempered glass. So have to be careful not to drop it, otherwise it will break. And better put the screen protector for both side (if you are quite careless in handling phone), to avoid scratches.
So in my opinion, both are good phones with its own pros and cons.
M8 ? G3?
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Great explanation and i'd like to add also, there are not much accessories for Z2 yet for example otterbox, and the boring part of note 3 was there are no FM Radio. But overall both phone as you said have it's own pros and cons.
S54B32 said:
Hi,
I would just like few opinions about the comparison of this 2 smartphone/phablets...
For the past 4 years I've been using only iphones... Now I want to move to android but not sure which one would be better.
I can see there is a lot of complains on Sony camera and problems with gaps etc...
Thanks
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my experience on Z1 was bad, camera quality stated 21MP but Note 3 picture quality far better.
if you are looking for water and dust resistance go for S5.
Compare Samsung Galaxy Note 3 vs. Sony Xperia Z2
Hi,
I have a Galaxy Note 2 and I am satisfied with it. If I am going to change it, I would buy newer version of Galaxy Note.
Anyway, maybe the following link helps you to decide one.
smartphonedecision.com/compare/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-3-vs-Sony-Xperia-Z2
Bye.
mel2net said:
Hi,
I have a Galaxy Note 2 and I am satisfied with it. If I am going to change it, I would buy newer version of Galaxy Note.
Anyway, maybe the following link helps you to decide one.
smartphonedecision.com/compare/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-3-vs-Sony-Xperia-Z2
Bye.
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Well your first post, so nothing to say really but please try to notice when the actual topic was created. In this case it was almost seven months ago!
Mods should CLOSE this topic.
I had a Z2 - the battery life is 10x better, the camera is 100x better. The Z2 is slippery to hold unless its in a case, it attracts fingerprints like a mofo, and the flap for the charging port becomes annoying. Other than that, its a excellent phone imo. Just doesn't have a stylus like the N3
m2geek said:
I had a Z2 - the battery life is 10x better, the camera is 100x better. The Z2 is slippery to hold unless its in a case, it attracts fingerprints like a mofo, and the flap for the charging port becomes annoying. Other than that, its a excellent phone imo. Just doesn't have a stylus like the N3
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And the display? It should be awful in comparison with Note 3!
Display in z2 and note 3 is similar but in note black is definitely better. My friend has z2 so i have often comparasion
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[Q] need help finding a phone that fits my needs

Hey guys,
let me introduce me to you quickly regarding phones: i hade the htc g1, a huawei u8800, a razr , a lumia 830 and now i am using my nexus 4 since one year. I am into costum roms and rooting and did it since the g1. so you could say that i cant do without. The nexus 4 is a nice phone since its handy and feels good in my hands, i can use it even with one hand even though i have smalls hands. the problem is: the battery life gets worse and the camera isnt the best.
I was looking for phone which has a snapdragon 800 + for the power, a good battery life and a atleast decent camera.
It must be kinda handy. the screen shouldnt be bigger than 5 inches and full hd ( or hd if its not bigger than 4,7 inches) .
i looked at the g3 ( which is ok for its big size because the software allows a quiet handy use)
the lumia 930 ( which doesnt have the biggest battery...)
the htc one m8 which i didnt like
the s5 which is handy and fullfills every other aspect except its not my most desired phone since everybody uses it( hipster, right? )
z3 and the z3 compact ( not quiet handy ( maybe because of the theft protection on the back, same with the g3 and the lumia 930) or almost too small and not comfortable in my hands because of its not rounded edges, also: the problems with the drm keys....)
i also looked at the iphone even though i never liked it. it was ok in the hands and the system is the same as always. the camera was well but i dont expect much from its battery.
what would you guys say or recommend? i am open to chinese brands as long as they use qood hardware(gps must work in europe) and the build quality should be quite good as well.
ty guys!
edit: features like waterproof and qi charging are nice, but not the most important features .
levibuko said:
Hey guys,
let me introduce me to you quickly regarding phones: i hade the htc g1, a huawei u8800, a razr , a lumia 830 and now i am using my nexus 4 since one year. I am into costum roms and rooting and did it since the g1. so you could say that i cant do without. The nexus 4 is a nice phone since its handy and feels good in my hands, i can use it even with one hand even though i have smalls hands. the problem is: the battery life gets worse and the camera isnt the best.
I was looking for phone which has a snapdragon 800 + for the power, a good battery life and a atleast decent camera.
It must be kinda handy. the screen shouldnt be bigger than 5 inches and full hd ( or hd if its not bigger than 4,7 inches) .
i looked at the g3 ( which is ok for its big size because the software allows a quiet handy use)
the lumia 930 ( which doesnt have the biggest battery...)
the htc one m8 which i didnt like
the s5 which is handy and fullfills every other aspect except its not my most desired phone since everybody uses it( hipster, right? )
z3 and the z3 compact ( not quiet handy ( maybe because of the theft protection on the back, same with the g3 and the lumia 930) or almost too small and not comfortable in my hands because of its not rounded edges, also: the problems with the drm keys....)
i also looked at the iphone even though i never liked it. it was ok in the hands and the system is the same as always. the camera was well but i dont expect much from its battery.
what would you guys say or recommend? i am open to chinese brands as long as they use qood hardware(gps must work in europe) and the build quality should be quite good as well.
ty guys!
edit: features like waterproof and qi charging are nice, but not the most important features .
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Sell S6 Flat, Go Z5 Premium or wait for Marshmallow?

Hii Folks!
So I just got back from our local mall and took a test drive of the New Z5 Premium. I'm stoked. From the fingerprint unlock to the Camera Test, amazing. Its fast too. I was trying to stress the device by multitasking really fast, flawless. I'm now having a dilemma if I'll sell my S6 and go Z5P. Oooorrrr, wait for Marshmallow then decide whether to throw in the towel. No bashing please. Thanks!
I have S6 and am having trouble with my cell reception. Keep losing network pretty randomly now in dodgy network areas where my sony Z3 holds on pretty well! Ive used my friend's Z5P and it is a good phone with solid network and better battery. But I think camera and screen are debatable between S6 and Z5P. I'm also looking to replace my S6 due to the network issue and sony Z5/Z5P are my top choices at present. But I might wait for S7 for a couple of months.
I think maybe wait till marshmallow drops. Many beta users have reported that the fingerprint sensor speed and recognition has improved in the marshmallow update.
Dpk1 said:
I have S6 and am having trouble with my cell reception. Keep losing network pretty randomly now in dodgy network areas where my sony Z3 holds on pretty well! Ive used my friend's Z5P and it is a good phone with solid network and better battery. But I think camera and screen are debatable between S6 and Z5P. I'm also looking to replace my S6 due to the network issue and sony Z5/Z5P are my top choices at present. But I might wait for S7 for a couple of months.
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I didn't had the chance to compare the ZP5's camera with my S6. But from what I can say is when I took a little bit of mixed shots and the zoomed it, there are minimal noise. It feels detailed.
Jhayzt said:
I didn't had the chance to compare the ZP5's camera with my S6. But from what I can say is when I took a little bit of mixed shots and the zoomed it, there are minimal noise. It feels detailed.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64808179&postcount=1013
I got both S6 and Z5c(the cam on Z5/Z5c/Z5P is same). The only good from Z5 camera is more accurate WB and auto exposure. The Z5 focus much improved over Z1~Z3 but I'll call it still slightly worse than IP5s, not as good as advertised while S6 focus is decent to the level near my friend's IP6(I've friends who own IP5s and IP6). The S6 OIS is unbeatable, I could take 100/200iso at low-light/indoor easy but on Z5 I've to pick 400iso to reduce handshake.
Z5 got good software video stabilization but it hurts so much the FOV and degraded the video quality. With software video stabilization enabled you hardly record a long video bcoz it will push the cpu to limit and overheat easy. S6 video stabilization may not as well as Sony but you can record video in long length with full FOV, the FHD/4K quality on S6 is also much better.
Battery on SD810 is quite power draining no doubt worse than Exynos 7420. Mine Z5c got best battery life in entire Z5 line but it looks like no better than S6 in my experiences, might be a bit better but not very noticeable. If you think S6 is power hungry, the fact is Z5P will just more worse. One reason is Z5P screen is dark, max brightness is like half of Z5/Z5c/S6 so you always need to tune up a bit the brightness and wasted extra power. The 4K panel isn't mature yet.
The fingerprint sensor faster than S6 but once the power button gets dirty the recognition speed become slower than S6. So, the S6 isn't fastest but more stable overall.
All and All. It's hard to make a conclusion bcoz all I can feel is the current Sony build are still beta, gonna wait 6.0 to release the camera power on Z5. Expected major upgrade of camera API and improved battery when 6.0 hits Z5. I'll say wait 6.0 to arrive on S6 and Z5P and check the result clearly. If you have free time, waiting for S7 is a even better choice.
I would give MM a chance on the S6
Like M...N said there are reports of more effective and usable fingerprint sensor support.
- Renolz
I actually sold my 8months old S6 (64gb) and got myself a new Xperia Z5 (dual) black. As stated earlier my S6 had a lot of network connectivity issues which got worse with time, got repaired but to no use. I was bit unsure about how good the camera would be on Z5 as there are mixed reviews.
My quick review of Z5 compared to S6 (after 2 days use):
- Better battery backup: my Z5 is at 67% after a full days use (charged fully at 10 am), while my S6 used to be at 4-5% by this time and had to charge it at least once daily (sometimes twice daily). 3g data on all the time with some voice calls, chrome browsing, whatsapp etc. Only using one sim in Z5.
- Camera: IMO the daylight pics on Z5 (23mp manual mode) are better overall than S6 (sony sensor). The pics are sharper overall with vibrant colors but slightly noisier compared to softer (less noisier) dull looking pics on the S6. The night pics are comparable on both but S6 auto mode does way better job than sony's. You actually need to know the manual mode on the Xperia very well as to get good results in poor light (which are comparable to or sometimes even better than S6). Also the camera app is faster and easier to use on the S6 compared to Z5. But, to me (a long time sony user) its a non issue. Mind it there are faulty units with lots of lens blurring and all (as apparent from reviews online) with Z5 in particular, so you need to keep that in mind. Mine doesn't have any such issue.
- Screen and touch response: Samoled vs Ips lcd. Both have their pros and cons. I like the touch response on the Z5 better though. Auto brightness works better on Z5.
- Network connectivity: Much better on the Z5 IMO.
- UI: Z5 has cleaner UI which is seamless. Samsung UI felt a bit laggy at times but both phones are pretty snappy.
P.S - I'm really happy with my purchase overall! Sony's camera app needs work for sure, which I'm confident will be done in coming updates. Samsung needs to improve upon its battery backup and UI IMO.
As this question is in your mind, I'm pretty sure you'll not be satisfied with the S6 again! Why wait? Sell it and get yourself a new Z5, but make sure you'll accept its minor deficiencies.
No offence, but if you're not satisfied with your phone, get another which will make you happier
If you need people to convince you to stay with galaxy s6, you've already made up your mind. Go with Z5, because you're always going to find a flaw with galaxy series.
Z5 pros: Custom roms, better battery life, better camera, micro SD slot, better sound quality, more open for devs (unlocking/relocking bootloader, releasing source codes etc.)
S6 cons: no stable custom roms due to Exynos + Knox tripping = no guarantee outside EU and quite bad battery life compared to G4/Z5 or any other comparable high-end phone released in 2015.
The s6 is only acceptable because of its design, no other stuff makes this phone worth it. An iPhone would probably even be a better choice than the S6. But if you especially dont care about custom roms and just look at hardware specs than just go with that Z5 premium or wait for the Galaxy S7.
In reality, it is impossible to run the 28nm octa-core SD810 Z5 with a full day usage and still got 67% battery left. I think it will need a Z3c with KitKat rom to do that.
If you just trying to get best SOT out with super light use and tune the screen to real dark, it is achievable though. Indeed, I'm a S6 light user mostly and my S6 always got 6~7hrs SOT as well. Such a campaign doesn't reflect real world performance for most people. There are many complaints from medium to heavy users from Z5/Z5c/Z5p on XDA and talk sonymobile forum about battery life.
I always prefer color reproduction from Sony. S6 used a heavy noise reduction and a bit dull but there are just too much noises on Sony. Speaking to the details, both of my IMX240 and ISOCell performs better than my Z5c day and night. It is strange that your S6 IMX240 photo not as sharp as Z5, in my experiences the IMX240 is just too sharp and I even want it to be lower. Me any my friend got a Z5c, mine is absolutely perfect without blur while my friend one got slightly blur so clearly no problem on my camera.
Both got pros and cons on auto brightness and touch responsive. Z5 auto brightness is too bright while S6 is a bit dark but overall I prefer S6. S6 got faster touch responsive while power saving disabled and some lag when power saving on. Z5 is more consistency on this part with or without Stamina on.
Actually, S6 got way more custom roms and kernels but sure no AOSP/CM. S6 got knox trip but Sony also has DRM key and TA partition.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/samsung-galaxy-s-6--s-6-edge-unified-development/cyanogenmod-13-galaxy-s6-t3269984
EDIT: I just found that CM13 is available now on S6
Fullmetal Jun said:
As this question is in your mind, I'm pretty sure you'll not be satisfied with the S6 again! Why wait? Sell it and get yourself a new Z5, but make sure you'll accept its minor deficiencies.
No offence, but if you're not satisfied with your phone, get another which will make you happier
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the most accurate reply for this question :good:
Quintz said:
Z5 pros: Custom roms, better battery life, better camera, micro SD slot, better sound quality, more open for devs (unlocking/relocking bootloader, releasing source codes etc.)
S6 cons: no stable custom roms due to Exynos + Knox tripping = no guarantee outside EU and quite bad battery life compared to G4/Z5 or any other comparable high-end phone released in 2015.
The s6 is only acceptable because of its design, no other stuff makes this phone worth it. An iPhone would probably even be a better choice than the S6. But if you especially dont care about custom roms and just look at hardware specs than just go with that Z5 premium or wait for the Galaxy S7.
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the camera on the S6 is better.....better screen, design....and TW is miles ahead and better than sony's UI...it looks outdated....so you're wrong....the only reason to get the Z5 over the s6 are water proofing, and battery, some people would like an sd card also.....but still the S6 is better...can't deny that....and an iphone 6 is better? give me one thing the iphone does better....
abdelha said:
the camera on the S6 is better.....better screen, design....and TW is miles ahead and better than sony's UI...it looks outdated....so you're wrong....the only reason to get the Z5 over the s6 are water proofing, and battery, some people would like an sd card also.....but still the S6 is better...can't deny that....and an iphone 6 is better? give me one thing the iphone does better....
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How are these statements you are giving supposed to be contra-arguments when I havent mentioned anything about it. I did say that the S6 design is better. Also I havent mentioned anything about stock roms, I was referring to custom roms, i.e. Cynogenmod, slimroms etc. Also screen is debatable, the Z5 premium has a 4k screen with alot more ppi and sharpness,while the s6 qhd could be more colorful.
Regarding iPhone 6s:
https://mobile.twitter.com/arter97_dev/status/681054354153971712
https://mobile.twitter.com/arter97_dev/status/680299853801365504
https://mobile.twitter.com/arter97_dev/status/641752688728764416
Here we can see that the iPhone 6s A9 chip beats the Exynos 7420 in single core performance, which is most noticeable in real world comparison. Also iOS will always will be more in harmony with its own device than android and X brand phone. Ofcourse I wouldnt pick an iPhone because I like using cynogenmod etc. myself, therefore the z5 premium is a better choice than the galaxy s6. But id choose an iPhone above an exynos device any day..
Quintz said:
How are these statements you are giving supposed to be contra-arguments when I havent mentioned anything about it. I did say that the S6 design is better. Also I havent mentioned anything about stock roms, I was referring to custom roms, i.e. Cynogenmod, slimroms etc. Also screen is debatable, the Z5 premium has a 4k screen with alot more ppi and sharpness,while the s6 qhd could be more colorful.
Here we can see that the iPhone 6s A9 chip beats the Exynos 7420 in single core performance, which is most noticeable in real world comparison. Also iOS will always will be more in harmony with its own device than android and X brand phone. Ofcourse I wouldnt pick an iPhone because I like using cynogenmod etc. myself, therefore the z5 premium is a better choice than the galaxy s6. But id choose an iPhone above an exynos device any day..
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first of all, in your comment you said iphone 6 and not 6s...second...CPU isn't everything, screen, camera, battery....so even if the 6s is a bit faster it falls in all other aspects.....
abdelha said:
first of all, in your comment you said iphone 6 and not 6s...second...CPU isn't everything, screen, camera, battery....so even if the 6s is a bit faster it falls in all other aspects.....
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I didnt mention the iPhone 6, you should know this since you quoted me. Anyway doesnt matter. Battery wise the iPhone is quite good compared to android phones, because iOS is harmonized to the hardware used (something android lacks). Check http://www.anandtech.com/show/9686/the-apple-iphone-6s-and-iphone-6s-plus-review/8
According to this test it beats the s6 battery usage, but not charging time.
Also a reason why the lower MaH battery lasts longer is because it isn't packed with an unecessary qhd screen (nowdays gimmicks sell better than innovation). Retina, 4k etc screens are good enough and yes you see a difference if you put it next to the s6, but in real world you dont compare screens all day.
And camera wise id pick the s6.
All with all, I am not here to promote the iPhone, but I just want to make a statement how bad the exynos s6 device is compared to other (android) phones. The only things that matter nowday are battery life, performance, camera,functionality (this aspect is taken less in consideration by non xda users ) and design. All screens on high end phones look quite good.
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I didnt mention the iPhone 6, you should know this since you quoted me. Anyway doesnt matter. Battery wise the iPhone is quite good compared to android phones, because iOS is harmonized to the hardware used (something android lacks). Check According to this test it beats the s6 battery usage, but not charging time.
Also a reason why the lower MaH battery lasts longer is because it isn't packed with an unecessary qhd screen (nowdays gimmicks sell better than innovation). Retina, 4k etc screens are good enough and yes you see a difference if you put it next to the s6, but in real world you dont compare screens all day.
And camera wise id pick the s6.
All with all, I am not here to promote the iPhone, but I just want to make a statement how bad the exynos s6 device is compared to other (android) phones. The only things that matter nowday are battery life, performance, camera,functionality (this aspect is taken less in consideration by non xda users ) and design. All screens on high end phones look quite good.
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it's a bit confusing, you saying that the S6 with exynos is bad compared to other androids!...and you're wrong, it's the best cpu for androids, and in multi core it's the best in the world...my s6 is 9 months old and it doesn't lag....so if you're getting lag then it's either you have a defect phone or i don't know....the S6 fly through anything i do....and it and the NOTE 5 are the fastest android devices.....the ram management is bad but the speed is just great...it's faster than the nexus 6p....just so you know....
abdelha said:
it's a bit confusing, you saying that the S6 with exynos is bad compared to other androids!...and you're wrong, it's the best cpu for androids, and in multi core it's the best in the world...my s6 is 9 months old and it doesn't lag....so if you're getting lag then it's either you have a defect phone or i don't know....the S6 fly through anything i do....and it and the NOTE 5 are the fastest android devices.....the ram management is bad but the speed is just great...it's faster than the nexus 6p....just so you know....
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No I yet again need to say this but I didnt mention lag. And yes the exynos chip is the best for android, but the sacrifice you need to make (no stable custom roms) is quite high. Anyway enjoy your phone, take care.
I sold a Z5 to come back to this phone. The premium is simply an oversized and ugly version of the Z5.
The only good thing on the Z5 is the fingerprint sensor.
Real world use, the Z5 camera is absolutely awful, daylight and low light is blown away by S6, it distorts pictures, and has no stabilisation in low light so motion blur even when you keep very still. Battery life is awful (4hrs SOT), the screen is not sharp enough, the phone is laggy, runs very very hot, and is NOT water resistant, speakers get wrecked after any contact with water, permanently.
The only good thing on the Z5 is the fingerprint sensor.
Aside from some very small skips (not lag) in settings menu, the S6 runs smooth and fast and battery life is 5hours SOT, camera is unbeatable. Very glad I got an S6 again.
On a side note, I have an Iphone 6 for work, unfortunately, and its far from lag free and smooth. It is buggy and battery life is mediocre at best although it does charge fast. Camera is useless.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64808179&postcount=1013
I got both S6 and Z5c(the cam on Z5/Z5c/Z5P is same). The only good from Z5 camera is more accurate WB and auto exposure. The Z5 focus much improved over Z1~Z3 but I'll call it still slightly worse than IP5s, not as good as advertised while S6 focus is decent to the level near my friend's IP6(I've friends who own IP5s and IP6). The S6 OIS is unbeatable, I could take 100/200iso at low-light/indoor easy but on Z5 I've to pick 400iso to reduce handshake.
Z5 got good software video stabilization but it hurts so much the FOV and degraded the video quality. With software video stabilization enabled you hardly record a long video bcoz it will push the cpu to limit and overheat easy. S6 video stabilization may not as well as Sony but you can record video in long length with full FOV, the FHD/4K quality on S6 is also much better.
Battery on SD810 is quite power draining no doubt worse than Exynos 7420. Mine Z5c got best battery life in entire Z5 line but it looks like no better than S6 in my experiences, might be a bit better but not very noticeable. If you think S6 is power hungry, the fact is Z5P will just more worse. One reason is Z5P screen is dark, max brightness is like half of Z5/Z5c/S6 so you always need to tune up a bit the brightness and wasted extra power. The 4K panel isn't mature yet.
The fingerprint sensor faster than S6 but once the power button gets dirty the recognition speed become slower than S6. So, the S6 isn't fastest but more stable overall.
All and All. It's hard to make a conclusion bcoz all I can feel is the current Sony build are still beta, gonna wait 6.0 to release the camera power on Z5. Expected major upgrade of camera API and improved battery when 6.0 hits Z5. I'll say wait 6.0 to arrive on S6 and Z5P and check the result clearly. If you have free time, waiting for S7 is a even better choice.
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The question I have for you is, none of my third party apps can auto focus the s6 rear camera. Only the official camera app and HwTest app can. Do you have any experience with this?

s7 edge or xperia xz

hi guys can u suggest me which phone to buy s7 edge or xz
main things i want camera and battery
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yash989 said:
hi guys can u suggest me which phone to buy s7 edge or xz
main things i want camera and battery
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I had the S7 Edge and now the XZ
from Camera sadlly the S7 is a bit better but in the end both cant be compared to real camera.
Battery with using wifi fb whatsapp and 4 emails account it last me all day. Samsung did too. but now they r saying battery got worst on the S7 after the Android 7 update..
Best thing go and try out both and buy the one u most like, in the end both are great phones... everyone have ups and downs so buy the one you really liked...
Good Luck..
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hi guys can u suggest me which phone to buy s7 edge or xz
main things i want camera and battery
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I think now is really better xz. Best modem for wifi and sim connection,best performance (expecially games...s7 is worst than z5c there ), camera i think is better on xz (more natural with best dettails, s7 false colors and the pictures are better only on s7 screen),best video stabilizzation, and battery with nougat is great, expecially stamina with third option (the stamina without limits...i reach 8hrs of screen too). Xz recieve angood nougat update, s7 orrible nougat update. S7 is the most overvalutate phone of 2016 for me.
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I think now is really better xz. Best modem for wifi and sim connection,best performance (expecially games...s7 is worst than z5c there ), camera i think is better on xz (more natural with best dettails, s7 false colors and the pictures are better only on s7 screen),best video stabilizzation, and battery with nougat is great, expecially stamina with third option (the stamina without limits...i reach 8hrs of screen too). Xz recieve angood nougat update, s7 orrible nougat update. S7 is the most overvalutate phone of 2016 for me.
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i wouldnt say that SGS7 is bad for gaming cause i had one for 4 month all i can say it was almost buttery smooth experiance...yes it was warm by the touch but still no frame droping atleast for me...but i dont like the design so mutch so i desided to go back to my beloved xperia Z5 and now i use XZ wich is about the same like SGS7 in terms of perfomance...and one more about the nougat update;i think that all companys screwed up a little bit cause they were rushing to put newest update online and thats why they gave as broken roms with bugs...i believe all is in the software PERIOD
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i wouldnt say that SGS7 is bad for gaming cause i had one for 4 month all i can say it was almost buttery smooth experiance...yes it was warm by the touch but still no frame droping atleast for me...but i dont like the design so mutch so i desided to go back to my beloved xperia Z5 and now i use XZ wich is about the same like SGS7 in terms of perfomance...and one more about the nougat update;i think that all companys screwed up a little bit cause they were rushing to put newest update online and thats why they gave as broken roms with bugs...i believe all is in the software PERIOD
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The s7 it isn't bad for gaming. But xz is really better. I agree the rush of this update. But on x series it seems perfect this update. I don't see any bugs on xz. X compact too. And x and x performance have same firmwares.
Same like me previous I want sell my s7e and buy Sony xz but cant decide Hesitate for a week then I sold s7e buy huawei p9 plus
Sad to tell you Buttt
yash989 said:
hi guys can u suggest me which phone to buy s7 edge or xz
main things i want camera and battery
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Today my brother bought the S7 and we took same photo and see how it showed on PC in photoshop !
XZ camera sucks ..
So go for S7 if image quality is really important if not XZ is really a great phone..
I has the sge7 for like 3 hours and then decided to move to the Xz 64 version.
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I think now is really better xz. Best modem for wifi and sim connection,best performance (expecially games...s7 is worst than z5c there ), camera i think is better on xz (more natural with best dettails, s7 false colors and the pictures are better only on s7 screen),best video stabilizzation, and battery with nougat is great, expecially stamina with third option (the stamina without limits...i reach 8hrs of screen too). Xz recieve angood nougat update, s7 orrible nougat update. S7 is the most overvalutate phone of 2016 for me.
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Well I am a Sony fan, so I will try to be impartial in this matter, I hate the edge part of the Samsung sge7. The Sony is more smooth and the quality of the screen is way better, as one of the precious members said the fake colors make it look ridiculous, but that's not the case of the XZ. You won't regret getting the XZ.
had the s7 edge for 10 months (had 2 actually). Gaming was smoother on the edge so dont understand the earlier poster saying there were issues. Display in the XZ in my opinion is better (looks crisper to me), although the edge display is very nice. Camera the edge, edges it
Battery for me the XZ is better and it doesnt get warm, both have fast charging.
Personally overall I think the edge is better, however it is fragile, whereas the XZ feels a good quality build to me. Both phones are great though
I had both. S7 is fine specially when it is new. But slows down after some time.
go to one smartphone showroom and try typing with Galaxy S7 Edge, if you don't have problem with that you may go for 7 Edge.
For me I got the 7 Edge for few months and then I shift for Xperia XZ, with Xperia XZ I like the double tab to weak up & sleep screen, in general I felt more comfortable with Sony.

Share your experience after using Xiaomi Poco F1

Hey guys, I just want to know your experience after using Xiaomi Poco f1 for months.... Are you guys satisfied with your phone or do you guys regret buying it?
And please rate the phone.
Yes, I'm very satisfied with the device, it surely is an upgrade from my Lenovo P2. The device is very responsive. It was the transition to Miui that kept me deciding wether I wanted it. After using Miui for 2 months now.. I definitely recommend a Xiaomi device to all my friends.
Upgraded from Galaxy S5 two months ago. Thought that the screen downgrade would bother me but it really doesn't - it's a decent screen for an LCD (and I love a very low minimal backlight level for night reading, usually for me a most useful feature of an amoled screen). Of course, it's extremely snappy and I find even the camera excellent (gcam is a big help here but even a built in app is decent). While I really like the photos, I don't care much for the video. It's detailed enough, with a good dynamic range and the EIS on 1080p is excellent but it's aggressive 'local' HDR is very apparent. It really looks bad when only a certain part of the image keeps changing in brightness while panning. The video is much better if you don't pan around. I rarely take videos so it's not much of a downside for me and maybe a gcam video has a different HDR algorithm (forgot to try it). I am not a gamer (bought a high-performance phone mostly for future-proofing and to run a Linux desktop on) so haven't really been hit that hard with a often mentioned touch responsiveness (seems perfectly OK to me). I have a custom built widget for always on homescreen notifications that I vastly prefer to tiny notification icons so the lack of the latter doesn't bother me. I actually hate notification icons as I am usually running 4-5 background services with permanent active notifications that eat up all the available space. This way I only get dismissable notifications that are actually notifications.
I can't comment on the cell signal quality as I haven't got out of a city lately and here the signal is decent everywhere. Band coverage shouldn't be a problem in Europe, I think. All in all, I haven't regretted the purchase and don't underestimate the 'smug factor' of owning a phone that's a much smarter purchase than all the fancy branded ones.
My dream came true with this legendary phone.... I used to think that when I will use flagship processor.... But my budget not that much high to purchase flagship mobiles ... But after seeing this mobile with high end processor .. I felt that I too have a legendary mobile in my hands... I don't see any brand before purchase ... Just I saw the snapdragon 845 processor and I bought this phone and I felt happy ... This phone is awesome and Google camera is working like a charm ... And I am using pixel experience ROM ... I love that ROM ....
POCO (LOVE )
srabon debnath said:
Hey guys, I just want to know your experience after using Xiaomi Poco f1 for months.... Are you guys satisfied with your phone or do you guys regret buying it?
And please rate the phone.
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the camera warps when you try to stabilize a video because no ois, further note all phone cameras suck at low light video. Google camera by far enhances this phones zoom and low light capabilities greatly.
Remember guys this phone is full of compromises
Of course there are better phones with better screens if your expecting a phone with an amazing Samsung display or flashy looks then best to buy a samsung phone. The only positive side the phone is the copper heatsink and 845 processor. The screens display is praised as not complete garbage.
If your a casual phone user it's better to go with a used s8 because this phone is only for pubg
Pros
Xiaomis support of modding is insane even providing warranty when rooting.
Lenovo and Huawei are terrible in comparison you would be lucky to even have 1 custom kernel or rom on those phones.
I was iphone user ever since 3gs, switched from iphone 7 to pocof1 last year and fell in love immediately. First vacation with my wife took maaaany pics, incomparable to her s7 edge or my iphone 7, so much better. Paid 300€ for 128gb version, unbeatable. Countless custom roms, updates coming fast, of course there r better phones, but they cost 700€ or more, so no, thank you, no more "flagships" for me. Been using poco for 4 months now, no regrets not for a second. AND...i dont need a f..... screenprotector or cover or any other protecting sht like before, not scared of getting scratches, and i dont have any yet, still as new. By far the best phone i ever had
Thanks for the replies guys.

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