To be clear from the start, my titanium backup is the paid version and it was set to store all backups on my external SD card. I had been recently manually running the two scheduled programs "Redo backups for modified data" and "Backup new user+system apps & newer versions" over the last couple of weeks. I wiped my phone entirely and using TWRP put on a clean backup of a fresh full firmware flash and did my system all over again since I had removed one too many system apps and "Videos" app was not working correctly and a few others.
Well I got my phone encrypted (not SD card), rooted it, got titanium backup installed and set it to use the SD card instead of internal but when it refreshed I saw many many many apps only had backups as of March... I purposefully ran the two schedules before I did the phone wipe, to ensure that I would have current up-to-date saved data for all apps. I remember scanning down a bit and seeing April 17 for the backup dates. So why did so many backups not appear? I have had a hell of a time setting everything up correctly again, my launcher was disorganized as it was before I set up my phone entirely to my desires. Everything was messed up. A few apps did in fact have current backups. Especially the new apps.
Is there something I am missing about "Redo backups for modified data" and "Backup new user+system apps & newer versions" as to what their function is? Don't those two fuctions ensure that every app both old and new get all backed up and all their data with it? Or do I have to go to batch actions and manually just tell it to do an entire backup of everything and ignore those two features? I am very confused by this and a bit angry since I thought the whole point of those scheduled programs were to ensure you had everything backed up.
Can you help me figure this out?
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Has anyone tried moving apps and data to a Charge with Titanium Backup? I have migrated between numerous devices in the past with very little trouble, but in going from the Tbolt to the Charge, app data does not appear to be transferring. For example I have a database of 1600 CD's in Memento that does not transfer. It has always come across fine in the past. Note that this is not something stored on the SD card; it is part of the app's data. Similarly notes in Kote, saved searches in Craigsnotifica, etc. The apps restore fine but data is missing.
No problems here on my end. Everything has gone from a fascinate>thunderbolt>atrix>charge and no issues. All app data and apps work just fine.
Thanks for that data point. Maybe it's something unique to the ROM I have on the Thunderbolt (das BAMF). Or just bad luck! Titanium support people are looking into it but based on prior experience I don't have a lot of faith. It's great software when it works but when there are problems, they haven't been great at getting to a resolution.
Have you tried updating busybox from inside titanium? Thats seems to help me anytime I have a problem with the app.
Yeah, pretty sure it was up to date. I just refreshed it again and it downloaded the same version I already had. The biggest remaining issue is my CD database and it seems to go beyond Titanium Backup because I also did a backup in the database program itself (Memento) and restored it on the Charge. It said the restore was successful, but the data still does not show up. Pretty odd.
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Yeah, pretty sure it was up to date. I just refreshed it again and it downloaded the same version I already had. The biggest remaining issue is my CD database and it seems to go beyond Titanium Backup because I also did a backup in the database program itself (Memento) and restored it on the Charge. It said the restore was successful, but the data still does not show up. Pretty odd.
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Just a thought as I don't have a Charge or use Memento, but have you checked to see if the Charge refers to its internal storage by a different name?
The reason I ask/suggest, is because I had difficulties when I installed/migrated CoPilot Live v.8 to an Atrix and an Inspire. It turned out that the CoPilot program would not recognize the name by which the internal storage memory was mounted; when I moved the maps to the external SD card, all was well. In my case until ALK (programmers of CoPilot) changed the way internal mounted storage could be referenced in the program there was nothing I could do to keep the data on the internal storage memory!
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Thanks, I'll send that to the Memento developer and see if it might apply in this situation.
I have moved all the apps I have that let me, to my SD card through the stock systems menu>settings>manage applications>Move to SD options.
I want to flash a new ROM. After flashing the ROM. Will all the data for those apps carry over? Is there anything that needs to be done to get them to work? Or will I boot up with the new ROM and go to app drawer and all the apps will still be there working just fine?
Also, when people talk about restoring apps, not data, I'm not quite sure how this works......
I have MyBackup Pro/Root version. Is App Data the data that is not supposed to be restored? From my understanding, that is what, for example, keeps the progress I have made in a game. Otherwise I have to start over. (And I JUST fully upgraded my level 10 car in Drag Racing! Ha ha).
Any help would be appreciated. Tried searching but didn't find anything related exactly to this. Well I did find one thread, but the OP fixed and and simply stated he fixed it, not how.
generally when people are talking about restoring user apps+data and not system data, they are referring to Titanium Backup which is the de facto in backup/restore, and there are options when restoring. you never restore system data or system apps, but any user apps+data is ok to restore.
i dont know about anything related to apps on SD. i NEVER use it.
Moving all your apps to the sd card is a waste of time. It will do nothing for you. It will not save your app data. Best to leave them on the phone. Backup your user apps and apps data as Pirateghost suggested with Titanium. Wipe the phone, install your new ROM and use titanium to restore your apps and apps data only. Do not backup or restore any system apps. Unless titanium backup has changed it will not restore apps MOVED to the sd card to the sd card. It will restore them on the phone's memory. That is why I suggest keeping your apps on the phone's internal memory.
Ah. Guess I should not believe the benefits flaunted around all the App 2 SD card things. I think it was that APP2SD App that says it frees up available phone memory when you move apps from phone to SD. Made sense to me..
I guess the phone has some space set aside for it's "RAM"? And no apps will be able to use that as storage space?
I'll move the stuff back then before I do the backup. Also, when I first started with Android and modding it, I bought MyBackup Pro. Does Titanium Backup do something better/different?
Titanium will also backup the app data. Example: game saves.
OK good to know. I'll probably buy that then.
Last question then with TB. When you restore apps with it, will it keep track in market that it's installed? I remember when I restored with MyBackup Pro, those apps were not listed under "My Apps" in market place, and didn't show as "installed" in market place, and therefore would not update. I had to uninstall them and install from market anyway... Does TB take care of things on that end?
the only time I used app 2 SD card is for the memory,sure some apps are like 2+mbs but it helps to move apps 2 Sd card to save from internal memory.. thats all.
I use Titanium back up and I just do a back up here and there.. and I just re flashed a rom and it just restored all my apps again. But also if you have (which im sure you do) Rom manager just do a ROM back up/System back whatever you want to call it. Its always good to do.
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OK good to know. I'll probably buy that then.
Last question then with TB. When you restore apps with it, will it keep track in market that it's installed? I remember when I restored with MyBackup Pro, those apps were not listed under "My Apps" in market place, and didn't show as "installed" in market place, and therefore would not update. I had to uninstall them and install from market anyway... Does TB take care of things on that end?
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yes, Tibu takes care of that for you. there is even a 'market doctor' built in that will scan apps and add stuff to market for you
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the only time I used app 2 SD card is for the memory,sure some apps are like 2+mbs but it helps to move apps 2 Sd card to save from internal memory.. thats all.
I use Titanium back up and I just do a back up here and there.. and I just re flashed a rom and it just restored all my apps again. But also if you have (which im sure you do) Rom manager just do a ROM back up/System back whatever you want to call it. Its always good to do.
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You mean running out of internal storage space? Or was it taking a chunk out of the RAM memory?
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yes, Tibu takes care of that for you. there is even a 'market doctor' built in that will scan apps and add stuff to market for you
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Thanks! I'll definitely buy it now..
Here is the issue. I use Titanium at the moment. I have many apps installed on my phone; so many that I HAVE to use the sd card for quite a few.
Now when I install a new ROM it creates a problem. I can't just use Titanium to install my apps in one batch step since Titanium only installs to the phone by default. I have to select about half. Then move them over to the sd card manually. Then go back and select some more. Then move them to the card. And then do the same with the last remaining apps. This tends to take some time to do and is a real pain.
Is there a backup software that will install everything as it was when it was backed up? If they were originally on the sd card then I want those apps to restore to the card by default. Is there anything like that?
I use Tom tool box pro and I'm pretty sure when you restore it restores everything account info themes all that stuff
In the market
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.jrummy.liberty.toolboxpro
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Thanks for responding. Restoring account info and especially themes can cause issues jumping between ROMs. Would never do that. But does it restore apps originally on the sd card back on the sd card; or does it install everything on phone? That is all I care to know about.
Not sure what app would do what you want, but I put the word out there with the dev of ROM Cleaner.
His script backs up all your apps, wifi/BT/mail accounts and re-installs them before the first boot is even initiated. It also deletes unwanted apps/widgets that come with most sense ROMs. The great thing is if you dont want to delete all the apps and widgets that his script deletes, you can make it to where it won't. its very customizable in that aspect. Edit: You have to run a separate script to restore the wifi/BT/mail accounts, which you obviously don't need to if you don't want.
Check out his thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1050283
Patraics is a nice guy and VERY quick to respond to any questions you may have. I posted the question not even 5 minutes ago and already got a response saying that he will look into it.
EDIT: Because of his scripts, i don't even use TB anymore. His way is easier and less time consuming.
I'll have to look into it. I like Titanium backup with everything it does. But I don't know why it is so difficult for it to restore aps to the same location where they backed them up from. Going to send a suggestion to TB too.
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I'll have to look into it. I like Titanium backup with everything it does. But I don't know why it is so difficult for it to restore aps to the same location where they backed them up from. Going to send a suggestion to TB too.
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TB does have some useful features, like freezing and uninstalling system apps. But realistically, if you arent going to use those system apps anyways, you can just have ROM Cleaner delete them before they even get the chance to be fully installed.
On the other hand, TB also does things that as flashaholics, we don't want it to do, like backup app data that can mess up a fresh flash. which is why I don't use it.
Although it does suck having to start angry birds from the beginning every time I find a new daily driver.... lol
Just an FYI though, IF you do decide to go ahead with ROM Cleaner, when it backs up your apps, it doesnt compress them or anything like that, it puts them all in a folder and then just leaves them there, leaving you to do the clean up, if you don't want those back ups to be there anymore.
Try my backup root
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Try my backup root
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Why? Does it do what I asked?
My Backup Pro
For backing up apps I have found My Backup Pro to be very simple. Will backup all apps & media and or data. Also had freeze, unfreeze, wipe cache and wipe data capabilities. Curious why storing all apps on system instead of S.D. card at all? Will take up all of your storage space on system and slow your system down. Also if connecting to desktop only have access to S.D. card so that also limits your accessibility to your apps.
Tbo haven't have an issue of apps not going to SD with titanium backup. Exp, my xda app is on the SD and when I restore its back to SD. Dunno how but ill look and see
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Here is the issue. I use Titanium at the moment. I have many apps installed on my phone; so many that I HAVE to use the sd card for quite a few.
Now when I install a new ROM it creates a problem. I can't just use Titanium to install my apps in one batch step since Titanium only installs to the phone by default. I have to select about half. Then move them over to the sd card manually. Then go back and select some more. Then move them to the card. And then do the same with the last remaining apps. This tends to take some time to do and is a real pain.
Is there a backup software that will install everything as it was when it was backed up? If they were originally on the sd card then I want those apps to restore to the card by default. Is there anything like that?
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Titanium does what you ask. You just need to adjust your settings. Go to preferences>restoration location and chose "original location" instead of the default setting that allows titanium to choose.
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Titanium does what you ask. You just need to adjust your settings. Go to preferences>restoration location and chose "original location" instead of the default setting that allows titanium to choose.
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That makes me feel so much like a NOOB. I have mentioned this in a few places on XDA and other forums. I have yet to have one person mention that there was a setting in the preferences. I swear it was not there the last time I looked but that was.....well quite some time ago. Thanks so much for bringing it to my attention. Noticed that there were many other new selections in there too. I guess I had the better backup software all along.
How many Nandroid backups do you keep "just in case?"
I want to balance safety, but not fill my SD Card with stuff I don't need.
Electronics are not infallible. Whatever you have on your card is a copy, from backup(s) on your PC.
I only have 1 copy on a Backup-SD card, usually updated from the last backup. But I have an original backup (and succeeding) version from day 1 on my PC, just in case.
nandroid backups aren't too critical if you backup the individual apps and settings with something like Titanium Backup. I try to get a nandroid every time I apply a new update or ROM however, and then just keep it until I'm sure I don't want to roll back.
I will usually keep the last nandroid on device/memory card, and store the rest like mt4g-cm7.1-backup-2012-02-05.7z. For Titanium Backup I keep on device and will periodically make an archive to snap shot off into cold storage with my old nandroids.
How many....is just a matter of how much space I'm willing to allocate. Which is probably 10-40 gigs for now.
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I use TB and never do a nandroid. Well almost never... My must not lose apps are backed up to the cloud.
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I'm looking at buying Titanium Backup Pro, but I need to know if it does a few things first (some required, some not,) and if not, how to ask the developers to add them.
I know that TB supports AES-256 encryption of app data, supports backing up to box.net, and supports backup scheduling. But can it support all three of those at once? E.g. do regular encrypted backups to box.net. I've seen conflicting information about this, need to know what the verdict is.
I also need to know if TB will store its own settings (e.g. filters, backup lists, etc) on to android's backup service instead of just the SD card. The idea is that I can move to a new rom or even a new phone without regard to whether or not the SD card remains intact. Effectively: sign into google play, google play picks up TB and restores its settings from the cloud, with one click TB gets to work restoring according to my parameters, regardless of the state of the SD card. With any luck, my launcher and other configurations are how I left them (I'll probably never move away from AOSP roms, or roms that are close to it.)
Does TB support shadow copies of backups? If so, can it be integrated into the above?
And finally, can TB detect which apps make use of android's cloud service, and leave their data alone? (e.g. don't merge the backed up data into them, instead let google play take care of that.)
Basically what I'm aiming for is a secured stateless android, so to speak.