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I have an original iPhone 2G that I want to replace. I've been waiting for the new iPhone 4 to come out, and I was planning on buying one -- but the death-grip problem got me to do some research, which is how I found out about the Captivate.
Now I'm torn on which one to get. Obviously I'm very accustomed to the iPhone, but I've never used Android. So...
1. What are the major differences between iOS and Android?
2. What might I like better about Android? What might I not like about Andriod? And what might I like better about iOS?
3. What might I like better about the Captivate phone? What might I prefer about the iPhone 4 phone?
4. I've read a lot of comments about "Lag" on the Captivate, which would really bug me. Is it true?
Etc, etc...
I think you get the point of the thread.
Thanks in advance.
The hardware differences are obvious. As far as lag, yes, there's some issue's but there's work arounds.
The biggest difference, the IPhone is a great phone, right out of the box without messing with anything. But your stuck with what you got. Apps are restricted, web is restricted, your pretty much at the mercy of att and apple.
Android, requires more out of the box tinkering, but you have endless possibilities. You can customize your phone the way you want it.
You have to realize that the iPhone and ios are completely locked down. You are destined to use the apps that apple ok's you have no other hardware choices and are locked into iTunes and all things apple.
Android is a complete 180 it allows for so much customization that it is simply mind boggleing. If you are unhappy with a certain apps or feature sets you can simply build your own or find something else.
With this.freedom comes responsibility. You need to manage your Apps and memory usage. You have to babysit a bit in order to get the most out of the device.
Being able to play most movie files and tons of audio file types is very freeing
Also the screen is insanely gorgeous.
It really comes down to two things in the end.
Do you have tons of Apps already for ios that you are not willing to part with?
Do you like geeking out a bit in order to build your dream device?
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As far as lag, yes, there's some issue's but there's work arounds.
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Got a link to these workarounds? This one's a biggee for me.
rob989_69 said:
The biggest difference, the IPhone is a great phone, right out of the box without messing with anything. But your stuck with what you got. Apps are restricted, web is restricted, your pretty much at the mercy of att and apple.
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Does this mean that if we're happy with the iPhone out of the box we're better off with iPhone 4 since there's no need to mess with anything?
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You can customize your phone the way you want it.
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How so? Can you give some examples? I only know what the iPhone gives us out of the box, so I have no way to know what I might be missing.
Thanks.
Sounds Good said:
Got a link to these workarounds? This one's a biggee for me.
Does this mean that if we're happy with the iPhone out of the box we're better off with iPhone 4 since there's no need to mess with anything?
How so? Can you give some examples? I only know what the iPhone gives us out of the box, so I have no way to know what I might be missing.
Thanks.
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Android uses widgets, which is something iOS lacks. You have the freedom to add and remove more than just app icons to your homescreen, such as weather indicators, contact rolodex, clocks, RSS feeds, facebook updates, everything. you can literally have every piece of pertinent info such as your todo list, email, weather, time, and alrams, all available on a single screen, without having to inside individual apps.
Another nifty feature of android are the live wallpapers. These animated, and often interactive, backgrounds adds a unique customization that lets people know your phone is unique.
the captivate is VERY usable right outside the box, unlike some other android phones. Despite what some people say, the Touchwiz UI (the UI that samsung has installed) is very fun to use, easy to customize, and is a natural transition for iphone users. The app dock at the bottom makes it feel slightly like an iphone, but includes the Android widgets to give you a nice feel of the phone.
On the downside, Samsung and AT&T install a lot of bloatware that slows down the phone. You will more than likely want to root the phone to be able to uninstall the AT&T Apps, the only duplicate the functionality that android has by default, and at a cost. for instance AT&T Navigate is a monthly charge app that is inferior to the free and default android navigate.
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On the downside, Samsung and AT&T install a lot of bloatware that slows down the phone. You will more than likely want to root the phone to be able to uninstall the AT&T Apps...
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Hmmm, this may be a problem. The sluggishness would drive me nuts, but if "root" is similar to Jailbraking, it's not my cup of tea. I know, I know... most of you have no problem with this... but I've never done it and I most likely never will. Which (apparently) leaves me with a sluggish phone. Not good.
I appreciate the feedback... it's the only way to truly learn.
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Hmmm, this may be a problem. The sluggishness would drive me nuts, but if "root" is similar to Jailbraking, it's not my cup of tea. I know, I know... most of you have no problem with this... but I've never done it and I most likely never will. Which (apparently) leaves me with a sluggish phone. Not good.
I appreciate the feedback... it's the only way to truly learn.
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You can disable all of the apps without root, but they will still be in your menu taking up space. I notice it's the Samsung widgets that cause lag the most (but honestly, it's still snappy even with the bloat) once you disable them the thing flies.
And rooting is only superficially similar to jail breaking. all rooting does is install the superuser app that allows you to do things an administrator is allowed to do. If you don't want it on your phone you simply uninstall the superuser app and it's back the way it was. what would be more akin to jailbreaking would be to enable sideloading, a way to install apps without using the market. This requires editing the system database, which is harder to reverse. You can enable root without also enabling sideloading, they are two different processes.
If you use a PC, you can even use Droid Explorer to uninstall apps without rooting your phone.
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If you use a PC, you can even use Droid Explorer to uninstall apps without rooting your phone.
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Dont you need to have root access to install busybox? My droid explorer wouldnt work until I downloaded and installed an updated busybox.
Rooting my phone was the first thing I did as soon as I got home, so I'm not sure if you need to have root access to install busybox or not.
derek4484 said:
Dont you need to have root access to install busybox? My droid explorer wouldnt work until I downloaded and installed an updated busybox.
Rooting my phone was the first thing I did as soon as I got home, so I'm not sure if you need to have root access to install busybox or not.
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Not sure, I rooted immediately as well, I just read about the explorer here on the forums.
Wtf is this lag you all talk about?? install laucher pro and that fixes the laggy touchwiz UI ****tiness...other than that android runs like butter on this device its unreal, i had an acer liquid and trust me android is not the same on a galaxy S its just unreal how smooth it is.
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Hmmm, this may be a problem. The sluggishness would drive me nuts, but if "root" is similar to Jailbraking, it's not my cup of tea. I know, I know... most of you have no problem with this... but I've never done it and I most likely never will. Which (apparently) leaves me with a sluggish phone. Not good.
I appreciate the feedback... it's the only way to truly learn.
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I suspect that people who have issues with sluggishness just got too enthusiastic about newly acquired freedom I solved this issue (that is if I even had it in a first place) by switching from Live Wallpaper to a regular one. No other tricks. I use TouchWiz (I like it). Here is a video comparing iPhone 4 and Captivate side by side. It uses stock Captivate and it's not any more sluggish than iPhone 4. In fact, it's faster in many tests.
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Wtf is this lag you all talk about?? install laucher pro and that fixes the laggy touchwiz UI ****tiness...other than that android runs like butter on this device its unreal, i had an acer liquid and trust me android is not the same on a galaxy S its just unreal how smooth it is.
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It's not touchwiz that is laggy. I love touchwiz and it's extremely responsive. Rather, it's the Samsung widgets that clutter 3 homscreens that are very processor intensive. Once you place them in the trash and replace them with other apps from the market the experience is far better.
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Here is a video comparing iPhone 4 and Captivate side by side. It uses stock Captivate and it's not any more sluggish than iPhone 4. In fact, it's faster in many tests.
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Interesting. Thanks for the link.
I'm coming from an iPhone (from what it sounds, i'm a more power user than you but I can offer insight)
the captivate has the advantage of having in house chip manufacturing, now while I have rooted and sideloaded and removed att bloat...before I did that all I did was remove the daily briefing widget (pretty useless imo) and I never experienced any slow down. I was used to waiting a bit with the 3gs so I was pretty happy with the experience.
If you're concerned about lag, don't. there really isn't any. it's perceived from when you hear you have a 1ghz phone that is as good as jesus. Everything even the fastest home computers have the occasional lag.
as for rooting, it really just allows you to have some more control over your phone. It's a stepping stone yes, kind of like a gateway drug into android tweaking. But if you can control yourself it'll allow you to simply remove the ATT apps that suck and use a nice and zippy touchwiz (which I actually really like) and because TW is very iphoneish, you should have a good time navigating.
but man lemme tell you, the browser is much better than iPhone. Flash is pretty awesome. The Screen is much much much! better than the 4's and it is bigger which I personally like. I think it hits the sweet spot between big and medium (I wanted a streak but it took way to long to come out, and i'm glad i didn't bite on an import).
The only two apps which are better on iPhone are facebook and MLB at Bat (at bat because of mlb.tv) otherwise the selection is nice on android, and the apps are very diverse.
I think you'd like it, but then again this is just my opinion. I'm more of the tinkerer anyways and I HAD to jailbreak my iPhone to enjoy it.
the captivate has some neat little tweaks that'll keep surprising you (I find new things every day)
choice is yours hope i could help
V DidDy 210 said:
I'm coming from an iPhone (from what it sounds, i'm a more power user than you but I can offer insight)
the captivate has the advantage of having in house chip manufacturing, now while I have rooted and sideloaded and removed att bloat...before I did that all I did was remove the daily briefing widget (pretty useless imo) and I never experienced any slow down. I was used to waiting a bit with the 3gs so I was pretty happy with the experience.
If you're concerned about lag, don't. there really isn't any. it's perceived from when you hear you have a 1ghz phone that is as good as jesus. Everything even the fastest home computers have the occasional lag.
as for rooting, it really just allows you to have some more control over your phone. It's a stepping stone yes, kind of like a gateway drug into android tweaking. But if you can control yourself it'll allow you to simply remove the ATT apps that suck and use a nice and zippy touchwiz (which I actually really like) and because TW is very iphoneish, you should have a good time navigating.
but man lemme tell you, the browser is much better than iPhone. Flash is pretty awesome. The Screen is much much much! better than the 4's and it is bigger which I personally like. I think it hits the sweet spot between big and medium (I wanted a streak but it took way to long to come out, and i'm glad i didn't bite on an import).
The only two apps which are better on iPhone are facebook and MLB at Bat (at bat because of mlb.tv) otherwise the selection is nice on android, and the apps are very diverse.
I think you'd like it, but then again this is just my opinion. I'm more of the tinkerer anyways and I HAD to jailbreak my iPhone to enjoy it.
the captivate has some neat little tweaks that'll keep surprising you (I find new things every day)
choice is yours hope i could help
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I also got suspicious about Daily Briefing once I saw that it was updating AP news constantly. I disabled AP News but kept the weather and the stock quotes. In my observation those are not updated automatically (or very infrequently). I think this was enough. I am still thinking about junking entire widget though
Every piece of [email protected] is different, just find the one that fits you best, if you know what I mean. Apple is great but equally the competition. Heck I had the HTC Aria before the Capt. It's was snappier and has a better UI I think, darn screen is just to small. My wife has the I4 and its cool too for what she uses it for.
Okay... thanks, guys.
I won't comment on regarding the operating system, but i'll tell you why pick Captivate.
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Let's just say, SGS currently offers nearly everything at the top of the market.
BUT, it would NOT be future proof. Technology advances regardless of any economical drawbacks, there WILL be better phones out there in the future.
Screen - debatable with iPhone4's screen
This really is a territory where personal preference will determine which the better screen will be, the differences are that minuscule.
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iPhone4 Retina Display vs. Galaxy S Super Amoled
CPU/GPU - YES YES YES. THREE times the speed of today's smartphone.
Coolermaster
Hummingbird vs. Snapdragon: The 1 GHz Smartphone Showdown
OS - Debatable so i wouldn't want to get into this. (but might i add this? the community behind android, let alone other OS, has an advantage of being futuristic-proof because of the regular tweets and mods)
Camera - 5mp, pretty darn low comparatively to other smartphones but it's adequate/satisfying after seeing the vids/pics
For me, I would certainly pick SGS. This is a bad place to ask for our opinon, it's a SGS dedicated section! (Trust me, you won't regret it. The screen is the dealbreaker)
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AT&T 16gb, No FFC, No flash, gyroscope
Tmobile 16gb, No FFC, No flash, gyroscope
Verizon 2gb, No FFC NOT SURE, flash, gyroscope, Wi-fi Hotspot supported
Sprint 1gb, Yes FFC NOT SURE, Flash, gyroscope, Keyboard, wi-fi hotspot supported
International 8/16gb, FFC, no Flash, gyroscope (not sure)
Captivate has metal battery door.
Nice sliding usb port.
Cool push down opening of the battery door.
better look, in my opinion
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Anything else you're wondering?
Seeing as how this is XDA, I'm not surprised everyone is siding with Android/SGS. I'm going to sled a little light on the iPhone since it has yet to be mentioned at all.
Did everyone forget about jailbreaking for the iPhone? The iPhone is just as customizable through jailbreaking as rooting is to Android. People are talking about how the apps are restricted but there is also Cydia and Cydia is freaking amazing.
I definitely recommend you to try and experience both. Reading up on how something is can only go so far. Having personal experience will give you A LOT of insight on how much devices are and which 1 best suits you. Go to AT&T, address the debate that you're having with them and I'm sure they'll gladly arrange something where you can try both devices for X amount of days.
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Does this mean that if we're happy with the iPhone out of the box we're better off with iPhone 4 since there's no need to mess with anything?
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Probably best to stay with iPhone if you don't have a reason to switch.
That said, jailbreaking on the iPhone isn't anywhere near the same thing as rooting the Android.
IE, iPhone users have been waiting a long time now for the iOS4 jailbreak, Captivate users had a root before it ever came out.
Captivate is as simple as putting a zip file on the device, rebooting the phone and applying it. EASY. Not near as involved as jailbreaking the iPhone.
Hi dear,
I'm going to get Galaxy S or Nexus S next week for myself and my gf(my gf's birthday is coming so I'm gonna sell my white iphone 4...)
Btw, I'm on the middle of the road.
I enjoy the internet browsing with my phone and watch youtube quite often. Also, I do video chat with my parent via skype.
But I saw on Nexus S the internet browsing is not as smooth as on galaxy s.
How is the performance on both devices?
and I read that galaxy s also have got 2.3.4 so now skype is working with video call. That is, Nexus S is not only the device can do video call via skype.
Please give me an advice guys! hope i'll hear many advice from here
First of all, I got to say that I only have the Nexus S, and not the Galaxy S, just like most of the people on this forum. That's why my opinion may be biased.
From what I've heard, the Nexus S is certainly smoother than the Galaxy S, mainly because there is no Touchwiz. The internet browsing on the Nexus S is indeed not perfect (on the standard browser that is), but I believe that's a problem of most of the Android devices. Tip: download a new browser from the market. Opera and Miren Browser are one of the fastest.
If you are going to use Google Services like Youtube much, then I recommend the Nexus S, since you'll be sure to get updates from Google for a long time.
As for Skype, I don't see a reason why it would work better on the Nexus S than on the Galaxy S, or the other way around. I wouldn't use Skype anyway, the application is far from perfect (your battery will drain like there's no tomorrow, although there are certain apps that prevent that).
In my eyes, the Nexus S is basically a better Galaxy S. Faster, slicker design and faster updates. Oh, one thing that may be important to you: the Nexus S doesn't have FM radio. The Galaxy S does. You'll have to rely on internet radio on the Nexus S.
I hope I wasn't too biased!
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First of all, I got to say that I only have the Nexus S, and not the Galaxy S, just like most of the people on this forum. That's why my opinion may be biased.
From what I've heard, the Nexus S is certainly smoother than the Galaxy S, mainly because there is no Touchwiz. The internet browsing on the Nexus S is indeed not perfect (on the standard browser that is), but I believe that's a problem of most of the Android devices. Tip: download a new browser from the market. Opera and Miren Browser are one of the fastest.
If you are going to use Google Services like Youtube much, then I recommend the Nexus S, since you'll be sure to get updates from Google for a long time.
As for Skype, I don't see a reason why it would work better on the Nexus S than on the Galaxy S, or the other way around. I wouldn't use Skype anyway, the application is far from perfect (your battery will drain like there's no tomorrow, although there are certain apps that prevent that).
In my eyes, the Nexus S is basically a better Galaxy S. Faster, slicker design and faster updates. Oh, one thing that may be important to you: the Nexus S doesn't have FM radio. The Galaxy S does. You'll have to rely on internet radio on the Nexus S.
I hope I wasn't too biased!
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no no no you are not biased at all. Very objective
hm.. that's one thing I've concerned.. update directly from Google as it's the reference phone! alright. I'll think about it again.
But how is the opera web browser? is it working well? I want to see how smooth it is!
jorkobe23 said:
no no no you are not biased at all. Very objective
hm.. that's one thing I've concerned.. update directly from Google as it's the reference phone! alright. I'll think about it again.
But how is the opera web browser? is it working well? I want to see how smooth it is!
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The opera web browser adds lots of functionality (like tabs, still can't believe the stock browser doesn't have that) and has (sort of) proven to be the fastest.
One more thing in favor of the Nexus S: it's easier to root and install custom ROMs, which will make it even faster. I don't know if you are interested in that, but since you already are on XDA, I figured that might be important to you.
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The opera web browser adds lots of functionality (like tabs, still can't believe the stock browser doesn't have that) and has (sort of) proven to be the fastest.
One more thing in favor of the Nexus S: it's easier to root and install custom ROMs, which will make it even faster. I don't know if you are interested in that, but since you already are on XDA, I figured that might be important to you.
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Oh, cool. Yeah I'd like to try some custom roms.
But one problem is when I asked my gf which one looks better, she said galaxy s
I think she likes more iphone-like a phone.
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Oh, cool. Yeah I'd like to try some custom roms.
But one problem is when I asked my gf which one looks better, she said galaxy s
I think she likes more iphone-like a phone.
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Time to get a new girl friend
you probably should take a nexus to you and a galaxy to your girlfriend. =o)
in my opinion, nexus is best than galaxy, except for browser, stock browser in nexus is really bad (some web pages are impossible to use), specially when you use opera browser and see how smooth it can be (that's the point you say 'wtf, what's wrong with stock one?')
I just happen to have both on my desk. The Samsung Galaxy S is my personal Phone and the Nexus S is my development Phone (I got a Milestone and a Galaxy Tab too).
What I like about Galaxy S:
Slightly thinner than Nexus S. Not much but I notice it.
MicroSD card slot. Missing in Nexus S
FM Radio.
Touchwiz notification area icons. IMHO a better place than a widget to quick access to power controls (and besides it has the very useful orientation locking button not present in default power controls widget).
Hardware home button. More comfortable to get screen back on rather than using power button all the time (the only choice on Nexus S).
What I like about Nexus S:
NFC. Interesting in my case for work but not very useful at present due to lack of support/information (need card emulation mode)
Development. You always get up-to-date versions of Android first (from Google) and development is less hassle than on other phones (rom building/flashing directly supported with standard Google tools). No mess with bootloaders, propietary flashing programs (Odin for Galaxy S) and no need to go with unofficial sources such as Cyanogen (Samsung S not yet supported, it will be from next version 7.1).
Camera flash. I miss it sometimes on my Galaxy S.
My personal choice. For everyday use I prefer my Galaxy S. For pure development or just to be always up-to-date Nexus S.
Note: Some people are discussing about software. You must take into consideration that hardware is almost the same in both models. I have not noticed noticeable performance differences. Nonetheless I have not used the Nexus S very much yet. I do have experienced performance improvements on my Galaxy S upgrading to new firmwares. Currently I have installed "F1 Series V6" which is a little modification over stock 2.3.4 GB Samsung firmware. It works great and my Quadrant score is around 2000. My advice is software can be changed/improved after you purchase your phone. Hardware can't. So choosing a phone based on my XXXX app run a little bit smother on this phone with firmware YYYY is not a wise decision, because those measurements are not very accurate and can vary over time. Both phones have virtually the same hardware, so they should more or less run the applications with practically no difference in performance.
Just my 2 cents.
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Some people are discussing about software. You must take into consideration that hardware is almost the same in both models. I have not noticed noticeable performance differences. Nonetheless I have not used the Nexus S very much yet. I do have experienced performance improvements on my Galaxy S upgrading to new firmwares. Currently I have installed "F1 Series V6" which is a little modification over stock 2.3.4 GB Samsung firmware. It works great and my Quadrant score is around 2000. My advice is software can be changed/improved after you purchase your phone. Hardware can't. So choosing a phone based on my XXXX app run a little bit smother on this phone with firmware YYYY is not a wise decision, because those measurements are not very accurate and can vary over time. Both phones have virtually the same hardware, so they should more or less run the applications with practically no difference in performance.
Just my 2 cents.
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that's quite oposite from what i think about it, today i make my decisions looking for software, it could make a crappy phone works nice and a 'dream' phone a hell (like atrix, to me), sure you can always tweak to get it better and when everything is great, Google releases a new android and the cycle starts again: new roms, new kernels and "when, where, why" start to pop in general forum. It's just not fun anymore (for me).
The thing is: I flashed all roms and all kernels from dev section in my nexus and couldn't find anything even close to stock setup. Nexus stock is just solid (despite lack of some good features).
i think chasing hard specs is not a wise decision anymore (besides, it's a endless chase), if you need a sd card slot, or fm radio, or HD camera, you should go with sgs. if you don't care about it and want a device that just works as soon as you get it out of the box, so... =o)
to resume, that is exactly what i think: http://thisismynext.com/2011/05/30/coming-nexus-s/
sorry for my engrish! =o)
The only reason why browsing on the Galaxy S is smoother is because it uses hardware acceleration. And another browser to worth mentioning in that list would be Dolphin Browser HD. It's a very smooth browser.
I came from a Samsung Vibrant (Galaxy S) to a Nexus S for its developmental purposes. Some may argue that there are not many ROMs. But all in honesty, the ROMs coming out to the Galaxy S are mainly all based on TouchWiz. They're all the same ROM behind the hood and just appear different. Now there is CM7, so things might of changed now. But regardless, to install CM7.. you'd have to go through a long process of changing its partition type from RFS to ext4.
I still don't look back at the Galaxy S. The only feature I can primarily say that I miss are the codecs, but with DICE Player. That filled the missing part so now I'm able to watch 720p without any lag.
But yeah, +1 on Google updates. When Ice Cream Sandwich is announced later this year, the Nexus S will be one of the first phones to get it.
Galaxy S? Good luck. Samsung will be busy updating their current flagship phone, Galaxy S2. And if you're in the U.S. it'll take even longer because it'll have to go through approval with the carrier and addition of their bloat blah blah blah. the list goes on.
Update coming from Google?
Google makes update -> OTA
Update coming from Samsung in the U.S.?
Samsung makes updates -> Goes through approval process with carrier -> OTA
And with the carriers, usually multiple revisions have to satisfy the carrier before its approved.
Nexus S hands down.
I also say the nexus s. I own both galaxy s and nexus s. My vibrant is decent but the nexus s blows it out the water. U.S. phones still don't have gingerbread either and froyo on the galaxy s looks retarded. It really does, the nexus s software looks slick and sexy. The browser lag is over blown. It's not that bad at.
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I own a Captivate and just bought a Nexus S today and I will give it to the NS.
Looks better, feels better, smoother and as retarded as it sounds, you feel better mentally. This is all Google and Google only. No workarounds, fixes, patches or anything to make this phone run as it should.
I could go on forever to discuss the pros (and also some cons) but they are redundant and have been discussed to death. It comes down to the Nexus S being a more refined and polished version of the Galaxy S.
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The browser lag is over blown. It's not that bad at.
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So, make a test for me: go to http://www.gizmodo.com.br/conteudo/...orkut-continua-vivo-e-aparentemente-saudavel/
Wait it loads, and roll to end of the page... does it work fine for you?
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Galaxy S has FM and comes with Swype (though you can get this thru beta program on NS)
Nexus S screen looked much better after the 2.3.3 update, now galaxy S screens look too blueish for me.
Both of them have voodoo sound support, so its all good!
Thanks guys!
I just wanna know which one is better between amoled or super lcd.
I live in New Zealand and here they only sell super lcd version..(GT-i9023)
I heard Super LCD version is better for battery efficiency and reading a text.
jorkobe23 said:
Thanks guys!
I just wanna know which one is better between amoled or super lcd.
I live in New Zealand and here they only sell super lcd version..(GT-i9023)
I heard Super LCD version is better for battery efficiency and reading a text.
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Read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=921861. I once started it when I was trying to find the real difference between (Super Clear) LCD and (Super) AMOLED. The thread has tons of pictures, videos, experiences, etc. Read it through. If that's not enough (I doubt it), you can read this thread that I made on a dutch forum. You probably don't speak dutch, but you could translate it. It is a very informative thread about the difference between LCD and AMOLED. It took me a while to make, but it was worth it. Keep in mind though that there is a difference between Super LCD and Super Clear LCD. A big difference.
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Read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=921861. I once started it when I was trying to find the real difference between (Super Clear) LCD and (Super) AMOLED. The thread has tons of pictures, videos, experiences, etc. Read it through. If that's not enough (I doubt it), you can read this thread that I made on a dutch forum. You probably don't speak dutch, but you could translate it. It is a very informative thread about the difference between LCD and AMOLED. It took me a while to make, but it was worth it. Keep in mind though that there is a difference between Super LCD and Super Clear LCD. A big difference.
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Nice review mate!
I just read your thread and I feel Super Clear LCD feels more like iPhoney.
I like the retina display as well as Super Amoled but for web browsing I guess Super Clear LCD is better.
jorkobe23 said:
Nice review mate!
I just read your thread and I feel Super Clear LCD feels more like iPhoney.
I like the retina display as well as Super Amoled but for web browsing I guess Super Clear LCD is better.
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The retina display is very much undersaturated, like 40 percent. Just like Super AMOLED is like 40 percent oversaturated. Super Clear LCD's colors are much more natural.
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The retina display is very much undersaturated, like 40 percent. Just like Super AMOLED is like 40 percent oversaturated. Super Clear LCD's colors are much more natural.
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Ah really?
But I want to know about how it is different when I read the text on the phone.
Retina display is amazing for web browsing and reading books.
is Super clear lcd like that?
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Ah really?
But I want to know about how it is different when I read the text on the phone.
Retina display is amazing for web browsing and reading books.
is Super clear lcd like that?
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Not that sharp as the retina display, although that has nothing to do with the fact that it is a retina display.
Iphone 4 resolution is higher than Nexus S resolution. And the screen of the iPhone 4 is smaller. But like I said, that has nothing to do with the fact that it is a retina display.
One thing I can say you is that whites are very easy to the eye on Super Clear LCD. With Opera or another web-browser that isn't as laggy as stock browser, you'll have a pleasant experience. True, the resolution isn't as high as the iPhones resolution, but the bigger screen also has an advantage of course.
I was originally thinking about getting an international Galaxy Tablet, but as much as I'd like a tablet as a phone...I know it's not the ideal solution for multiple reasons (lack of warranty, primarily).
Anyway, a friend can get me one brand-new for $250, and it'd be a decent upgrade from my HTC G2. I know development for it isn't the best, and ICS probably won't arrive at least for another month (and it'll suck going back to Gingerbread after having used ICS for a bit on my G2), but I don't want my G2 to completely crap out and have to buy a new phone on a whim like that (and it'd be nice to have the G2 available as a backup).
Not interested in the Galaxy II (I get that it has better features, but it just looks/feels so cheap to me), and the Galaxy III is a nice phone, but I won't use half the features/power and it'd be an extra $100 or so. Nothing else on T-Mobile really appeals to me.
That being said, other than the previously-mentioned lack of development, are there any issues with the Blaze that I should know about? Or any major reason (other than development) that I should go with the GS3 instead?
If you've only ever used a AOSP style CM capable device (like me) you may regret going to something that only runs TouchWiz. Sure, you can change the launcher, uninstall swype and install the better version, and root it to uninstall a bunch of apps you don't want/need... but there are other things you can't change.
The lock screen, phone call screen(s) and some other things are remarkably slow and unresponsive, and is this ridiculous attempt to bring ICS looks and features to a poor gingerbread implementation. I don't understand how a company can make a phone with dual 1.5Ghz cores perform some things so slowly when my 1Ghz MT4G was responsive as hell. The phone feels "nicer" in the hand than some other samsungs I've held but that's about all it has going for it. Oh, and it supports T-Mobile's WiFi calling.
And yeah, the development is going REALLY slow and will likely remain so, even with the generous help of the guys that are making moves on this phone now.
If I had the choice again, I wouldn't. I will never again purchase a phone that isn't already supported by some AOSP style ROM. I thought root was enough and I'd get by with it, but I was wrong.
But that's just me.
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If you've only ever used a AOSP style CM capable device (like me) you may regret going to something that only runs TouchWiz. Sure, you can change the launcher, uninstall swype and install the better version, and root it to uninstall a bunch of apps you don't want/need... but there are other things you can't change.
The lock screen, phone call screen(s) and some other things are remarkably slow and unresponsive, and is this ridiculous attempt to bring ICS looks and features to a poor gingerbread implementation. I don't understand how a company can make a phone with dual 1.5Ghz cores perform some things so slowly when my 1Ghz MT4G was responsive as hell. The phone feels "nicer" in the hand than some other samsungs I've held but that's about all it has going for it. Oh, and it supports T-Mobile's WiFi calling.
And yeah, the development is going REALLY slow and will likely remain so, even with the generous help of the guys that are making moves on this phone now.
If I had the choice again, I wouldn't. I will never again purchase a phone that isn't already supported by some AOSP style ROM. I thought root was enough and I'd get by with it, but I was wrong.
But that's just me.
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Well then, wasn't exactly expecting to hear that on this of all boards - it's definitely good to hear, though, as I didn't realize how serious reviews were about the device being bloated like that.
My only other choice I'd be remotely interested in would be the HTC Amaze, and not that I don't like HTC, but I've read the battery life isn't the best, and there's issues like backlight bleeding and whatnot. I guess I'll just wait to get the GS3 and hope there aren't any major issues.
Yeah, sorry
For the price, if the community were more active, I'd say it's a great deal. But if it isn't active now, the sad truth is that it won't get more active down the road. And I wouldn't wait for the likes of me to actually succeed in getting CM9 running on this thing...
As a comparison, the HTC One S has been around half as long and has like 10x the interest and activity. Just walk around their XDA Android Dev subforums and you'll see what I mean. Mind you, the 1S has the same CPU, memory, and other misc. features. The storage and battery are fixed, but that's the only downside. It's got a slimmer package and more accessories available. The blaze is dead in comparison.
TouchWiz just irritates me, but I make do with the phone, and maybe I'm being picky. Ask if you can test drive the thing... insert your sim and make/answer some calls... do some basic things and just know that's pretty much how the device will always be. If you could live with that, then so be it.
For a T-Mobile compatible phone, I'd just get a new Galaxy Nexus, or a 1S. The Galaxy Nexus will be the first to run Jelly Bean, and you'll also have support for a fairly long time from the likes of the CM team and AOKP, et al. It has some great features too. Just food for though
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Yeah, sorry
For the price, if the community were more active, I'd say it's a great deal. But if it isn't active now, the sad truth is that it won't get more active down the road. And I wouldn't wait for the likes of me to actually succeed in getting CM9 running on this thing...
As a comparison, the HTC One S has been around half as long and has like 10x the interest and activity. Just walk around their XDA Android Dev subforums and you'll see what I mean. Mind you, the 1S has the same CPU, memory, and other misc. features. The storage and battery are fixed, but that's the only downside. It's got a slimmer package and more accessories available. The blaze is dead in comparison.
TouchWiz just irritates me, but I make do with the phone, and maybe I'm being picky. Ask if you can test drive the thing... insert your sim and make/answer some calls... do some basic things and just know that's pretty much how the device will always be. If you could live with that, then so be it.
For a T-Mobile compatible phone, I'd just get a new Galaxy Nexus, or a 1S. The Galaxy Nexus will be the first to run Jelly Bean, and you'll also have support for a fairly long time from the likes of the CM team and AOKP, et al. It has some great features too. Just food for though
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I guess I'll try and look into the Blaze in person more before I totally dismiss it, then. After hearing numerous issues with the 1S (between random reboots, screens failing, really hot temperatures, data/service issues, and even stuff as weird as the capacitive buttons being completely unresponsive - all reasons people have returned it, according to a friend at T-Mobile), I'm staying away from it, at least for the moment; I like everything else about the phone, however, and don't care about lack of expandable storage or removable battery. Not a fan of the lack official accessories (and accessory choice in general), however, compared to most Samsung phones.
And nothing against the Nexus but...it just doesn't appeal to me. I can understand any of the numerous reasons to go for one, but it just doesn't stand out to me in any way; I'd much sooner get the Galaxy S 3 for the better specs and camera alone.
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I guess I'll try and look into the Blaze in person more before I totally dismiss it, then. After hearing numerous issues with the 1S (between random reboots, screens failing, really hot temperatures, data/service issues, and even stuff as weird as the capacitive buttons being completely unresponsive - all reasons people have returned it, according to a friend at T-Mobile), I'm staying away from it, at least for the moment; I like everything else about the phone, however, and don't care about lack of expandable storage or removable battery. Not a fan of the lack official accessories (and accessory choice in general), however, compared to most Samsung phones.
And nothing against the Nexus but...it just doesn't appeal to me. I can understand any of the numerous reasons to go for one, but it just doesn't stand out to me in any way; I'd much sooner get the Galaxy S 3 for the better specs and camera alone.
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I believe the Nexus also has various issues. I honestly don't understand where are all the pessimism is coming from. We are getting the official ICS update, so CM9 is likely to get to us. We are also funding a developer to help him buy a Blaze and improve his ROM. I'll admit the development is slow, but that's to be expected for a carrier specific device that got no advertising. Descent due development will come in time I think.
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If you've only ever used a AOSP style CM capable device (like me) you may regret going to something that only runs TouchWiz. Sure, you can change the launcher, uninstall swype and install the better version, and root it to uninstall a bunch of apps you don't want/need... but there are other things you can't change.
The lock screen, phone call screen(s) and some other things are remarkably slow and unresponsive, and is this ridiculous attempt to bring ICS looks and features to a poor gingerbread implementation. I don't understand how a company can make a phone with dual 1.5Ghz cores perform some things so slowly when my 1Ghz MT4G was responsive as hell. The phone feels "nicer" in the hand than some other samsungs I've held but that's about all it has going for it. Oh, and it supports T-Mobile's WiFi calling.
And yeah, the development is going REALLY slow and will likely remain so, even with the generous help of the guys that are making moves on this phone now.
If I had the choice again, I wouldn't. I will never again purchase a phone that isn't already supported by some AOSP style ROM. I thought root was enough and I'd get by with it, but I was wrong.
But that's just me.
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That's funny, but that's exactly how I feel about my Blaze. I thought rooting it to get rid of all the bloat would be enough, but I want more, and there just isn't more out there, despite the efforts of our lovable and hard working dev's. And you're right - the call screen sometimes just isn't responsive at all and I wind up being unable to answer calls, especially if it's coming from an app I'm already running, such as a game. So from now on I'm coming to XDA and doing developmental research before getting a phone. Right now I'm leaning towards a Galaxy S2 (even though the S3 is a faster phone and all - it just does not feel right IMO).
While the lack of development is discouraging to "early" adopters, I really love the form factor (can't stand the 4.3" screens or bigger) and the build quality is surprisingly nice.
Having used CM before on another device, it is weird not having it on here. The lack of customizability is a bit frustrating. But I'm patient. I really think the price point, performance potential, and friendly size will make this a winner once ICS and the appropriate sources/information are released.
So I got a chance to play with one a little bit (basically brand-new, just factory reset)...I'm not seeing the sluggishness/delay you guys are talking about, particularly with the phone calls (receiving or placing). Maybe I'm just used to the delay/sluggishness on my G2 that I don't notice it, but I'd imagine removing all that bloat (and removing stuff like built-in ringtones) would help a decent amount...
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So I got a chance to play with one a little bit (basically brand-new, just factory reset)...I'm not seeing the sluggishness/delay you guys are talking about, particularly with the phone calls (receiving or placing). Maybe I'm just used to the delay/sluggishness on my G2 that I don't notice it, but I'd imagine removing all that bloat (and removing stuff like built-in ringtones) would help a decent amount...
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Yeah, I have none of the sluggishness issues either. Stock may be bloated but its pretty damn snappy. I've used a MT4G with CM7 and my Blaze is much more responsive overall, it even handles flash without breaking a sweat.
I'm really happy with this phone despite not having much rom support. Coming from a defy there are two things that I don't miss: battery pulls and random reboots. Never happens on this device. For me that makes it worth giving up AOSP...at least for now.
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Just out of curiosity - I've heard that internally there are many similarities between a Blaze and a Galaxy S2. Has anyone ever tried throwing an S2 ROM on their Blaze and, if so, what were the results? Just curious.
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Just out of curiosity - I've heard that internally there are many similarities between a Blaze and a Galaxy S2. Has anyone ever tried throwing an S2 ROM on their Blaze and, if so, what were the results? Just curious.
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they are similars but don't recommend something like that iif you don't know what might happen. Because flashing wrong kernel/rom can brick peoples phone.
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Just out of curiosity - I've heard that internally there are many similarities between a Blaze and a Galaxy S2. Has anyone ever tried throwing an S2 ROM on their Blaze and, if so, what were the results? Just curious.
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The B4G is specifically very much like the T-Mobile GS2 (The T989). They are both based on the msm8660_surf board, with the same CPU, GPU and many of the same sensors. There are differences, specifically with the panel (display) and a few of the sensors. The differences are enough that it doesn't quite work on our device. Yeah, I've tried ;-)
What I've been doing is specifically trying to port a number of the things for our device into the ICS kernel available for the T989. My goal is to come up with a bootable ICS kernel for our device. I think that's gonna be the biggest stepping stone to a working CM9 or AOKP build for our phone.
The B4G has nothing other than specs in common with the other SGS2 phones on the market, save for maybe the AT&T SkyRocket. They all use different CPU's and GPU's on a different platform all built by Samsung... and thus different sensors.
I've had a lot of phones starting with the Nexus One (actually the Eris but I try to forget). So far the only issue I see is the ability to "crack flash". IMO sooner or later you'll have a phone that just won't have every developer swooning over it. if for no other reason than there are so many phone out there. (remember the threads when the Nexus came out?)
I bought this phone because it met all of my needs and had good specs. I had the G2x and the Sensation (sold on gave another to my son) but ths phone is better. The extra Ram is noticeable difference IMO and the size of the phone is right for me.
We could have all opted for the Galaxy SII and I'm sure everybody looked at the threads and saw what was going on so........participate........and relax a little.........the phone works very well.
Disclaimer!!
This thread ain't intended to start a flame war or to bash me because you can download new diallers, contacts etc just my opinion on touchwiz after seeing various youtube video's and to see if I am not the only one who feels this way.
First of all I am a fanatic bordering on OCD when it comes to the look and feel of the OS as well as the apps which run on top of it and my biggest gripe back when I had my first android phone was that applications varied wildly in the quality of design and aesthetics and Google had a lot of work ahead of it to tidy up the UI to get it up to the standard of iOS for a uniform feel and to get developers to have a similar feel across the board for their apps.
Android is and always was a superior OS just to clear that up I am not an iOS fanboy!
Fast forward to today and Android has changed so much it blew me away all the apps now look and feel like they follow the guidelines set out by Google with the holo theme (I had a Google Nexus 720p and sold it purely because all the apps looked well out of place) and everything is very smooth with next to no lag or stutter so consider me impressed.
However this is what bugs me now, when I first got a Galaxy S II touchwiz looked good and it added some nice little touches and over all and made a very nice change to Sense which was bloated and slow now fast forward to the Galaxy S IV announcement and touchwiz now looks very dated and from what I can gather it does not follow the holo guidelines whatsoever and the enhancements are a slightly more toned down look (still cartoony like in appearance) and whites in the menu's.
So here is a breakdown of my gripes/concerns about Touchwiz on this flagship phone.
The dialler looks absolutely awful and seriously dated by todays standards
The contact list and/or contacts follows the same lines as the dialler and looks very dated
The camera icons have a fake metal look and stick out a mile
Basically Touchwiz looks way too cartoony, garish and lacks the polish and finish of the Nexus range and even the HTC One.
And last things last I appreciate that you can customise the hell out of Android with new diallers, new themes, tweaks and what not but this post is purely about the stock experience.
Aside from that Touchwiz does have some nice touches just Samsung need to bring it out of the gingerbread days and screaming and kicking into the holo days.
One last note I own a windows phone purely because of the aesthetics and all applications follow the same guidelines but there is such a lack of support I am coming back to Android at some point in the very near future.
Samsung always had a bunch of awful designers. They desperately need to hire better designers.
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All those complaints can be changed with simple fixes right here on XDA...
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Definitely agree not denying that whatsoever and my complaints are purely about the design and look of Touchwiz not how to fix it
Some like it, some don't. Touchwiz UI never looks great to me, and its features (s voice, s beam, palm swipe screen capture etc) are nothing but bloats for me. However if you're gonna buy a S4 you'll have to find a way to like Touchwiz. Don't think you'll be able to flash CM or AOSP on an S4 and everything's gonna work well and great. With the lack of support and Samsung's attitude towards devs, open source development on this device is gonna be a pain.
Or you use a different launcher.
I'm riding the same boat as you mate, currently a Lumia 920 owner, came from S2 and Nexuses aren't sold in the country I live in. Samsung's totally effed it up, it looks so gingerbread :x
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Or you use a different launcher.
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Touchwiz is not just the launcher. It's the whole experience.
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Touchwiz is not just the launcher. It's the whole experience.
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Couldn't of said it better myself and also nice signature, typing on a Macbook Pro Retina as we speak
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Touchwiz is not just the launcher. It's the whole experience.
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Exactly correct which is why when u change the launcher it's different because the experience changes
And you can still flash a rom anyway
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Totally agree with you.
Amoled display on Touchwiz added insult to injury. Its oversaturated/ unrealistic colors made it look more awful.
I'm not against samsung or its nature UX, I've seen the S4 personally and its display is really gorgeous. its just that just like you, i'm not into the outdated user experience with added features from the gingerbread days.
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Have to disagree. Love the touchwiz. And absolutely love most of the things u guys call 'bloat'.
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Samsung has no use for OCD types....They will never be satisfied and are too infinitesimal in the millions and millions of sold product. I don;t like TW. I use Nova Problem solved.
My feelings are if you are paying for a top end flagship device then everything should ooze quality and Touchwiz is firmly stuck in the days of gingerbread and it's getting totally left behind.
Launchers can only do so much imho.
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Samsung has no use for OCD types....They will never be satisfied and are too infinitesimal in the millions and millions of sold product. I don;t like TW. I use Nova Problem solved.
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Nova launcher is slick.
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My feelings are if you are paying for a top end flagship device then everything should ooze quality and Touchwiz is firmly stuck in the days of gingerbread and it's getting totally left behind.
Launchers can only do so much imho.
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Launchers can and do COMPLETELY change the experience. They do a lot. and then even more... In fact the problem people are having with TW can be completely eradicated with a very large choice of proven launchers.
REAL Flagship devices don't become antiquated in 6 months. I think the word "flagship" in this world of Mobile devices is over used. carries to high of expectations, and is over exaggerated for a $600 all in one device. The Note 3 will be the flagship device in a few months...Then what?
For MOST the S4 WILL "ooze quality" I know a few non rooting users who cannot wait to get their upgrades and have been completely satissfied with their S3s. WE in XDA are very very tiny consumer base for Samsung. They throw a few bones to developers for their own benefit so we can beta test their new stock firmwares. But tey are not building these devices for hackers who will run Cyanogen on them or care about slightly blue tints or plastic cases and screens (which are likely to be covered with the latest Otter box and ZAGG crap)
OCD/Anal users usually don't run their devices out of the box bare as designed, like I do. So does the plastic body and slick glass really matter?
Touchwiz came a long way since gingerbread. It's only downfall is that it's still choppy in very few areas (like widgets tab). Other than that, I'd rather have it then Sense (which comes with features you can't disable, at Touchwiz gives you the option to disable features you don't want) or stock android which is bare-boned and lacks features.
Just wait for custom roms.
They will bring new life to the s4.
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Exactly correct which is why when u change the launcher it's different because the experience changes
And you can still flash a rom anyway
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So RUN AOSP in it, or run a Touchwiz run de-touchiwzed.
I really want to buy this tablet over the iPad. I really really don't like iOS, and I love all the features that the note has, but I can't justify my purchase if it's going to act up after a while. I've owned a few android devices that worked great at first, but then seemed to slow down and crash a lot as time went on (HTC Evo, Asus tf101)
So basically my question is for those who have had it for a while - does it still perform like it did when you bought it? And for anyone, are there a lot of issues with crashes, force closes, hangups, freezing, etc.?
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I really want to buy this tablet over the iPad. I really really don't like iOS, and I love all the features that the note has, but I can't justify my purchase if it's going to act up after a while. I've owned a few android devices that worked great at first, but then seemed to slow down and crash a lot as time went on (HTC Evo, Asus tf101)
So basically my question is for those who have had it for a while - does it still perform like it did when you bought it? And for anyone, are there a lot of issues with crashes, force closes, hangups, freezing, etc.?
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Still works like brand new.
But what sort of time frame are you talking any drive will slow down and tire out eventually.
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I really want to buy this tablet over the iPad. I really really don't like iOS, and I love all the features that the note has, but I can't justify my purchase if it's going to act up after a while. I've owned a few android devices that worked great at first, but then seemed to slow down and crash a lot as time went on (HTC Evo, Asus tf101)
So basically my question is for those who have had it for a while - does it still perform like it did when you bought it? And for anyone, are there a lot of issues with crashes, force closes, hangups, freezing, etc.?
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never had that problem with any Android product. I have owned for about a year and still runs like the day I bought it. Running stock. Not true for me running hacked Rom though.
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Still works like brand new.
But what sort of time frame are you talking any drive will slow down and tire out eventually.
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I know it will somewhat, I just want it to give me a good amount of use over 2 years or so at least. My evo had basically given up by a year and a half
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never had that problem with any Android product. I have owned for about a year and still runs like the day I bought it. Running stock. Not true for me running hacked Rom though.
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That's good news! I'm assuming you're rooted, does running different roms mess with the overall performance? I know different ones perform differently I mean the ability of the processor I guess
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I know it will somewhat, I just want it to give me a good amount of use over 2 years or so at least. My evo had basically given up by a year and a half
That's good news! I'm assuming you're rooted, does running different roms mess with the overall performance? I know different ones perform differently I mean the ability of the processor I guess
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Almost a year old on 2 note 10.1's... No different than the day they were bought, well, JB did speed things up somewhat... You may find slow down and lag if you use all the internal memory. That will happen to any pc...
Depends what you're looking for in a rom.. I find rooted stock fine but there are other tweaks and mods you can use.
Lets be honest, with 2gb of ram it runs pretty damn fast and doesn't really need too many mods, might be why not many roms in developement....
I had my Note since October 2012 ... it's pretty good with little lag after using lots of apps ... Rooted it since two weeks and tried a custom ROM but nothing matches multi window and Spen integration