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[Q] How to keep ROM and recovery stock, but be rooted?

Hi,
I have a P3113.
I want to be able to receive the OTA updates from Samsung, but their OTA update process invokes a reboot into their stock recovery to complete the update. So, if I replace the stock recovery, the official OTA updates wont be able to complete.
But the only way I have seen to "root" a stock ROM was to first replace the stock recovery with CWM recovery, which is need to install a Zip file that does the actual root.
But, once I replace the stock recovery, I will no longer be able to do official OTA updates because they require a stock recovery.
So, what can I do to have a stock ROM and Recovery on my tab, but also be rooted?

If you have the mobile odin pro (paid) and managed to flash stock firmware (the updated one) that you downloaded from www.samfirmware.com (register first) then you will be able to retain root after flashing if you checked the everroot option in mobile odin pro
Or receive the latest firmware via kies then you could root it afterwards ( root the updated firmware)
Or flash the updated firmware from samfirmware via odin pc 1.85 and then root again as usual
As i know no flashable zip to flash to give you the stock recovery
I suggest update via pc odin and forgetting about update via kies
If anytime you want to use kies for update, you could flash first stock firmware via pc odin then update or flash the updated firmware directly then root
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Mohamedselim said:
If you have the mobile odin pro (paid) and managed to flash stock firmware (the updated one) that you downloaded from www.samfirmware.com (register first) then you will be able to retain root after flashing if you checked the everroot option in mobile odin pro
Or receive the latest firmware via kies then you could root it afterwards ( root the updated firmware)
Or flash the updated firmware from samfirmware via odin pc 1.85 and then root again as usual
As i know no flashable zip to flash to give you the stock recovery
I suggest update via pc odin and forgetting about update via kies
If anytime you want to use kies for update, you could flash first stock firmware via pc odin then update or flash the updated firmware directly then root
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Thanks for the info - very helpful.

So am I correct in my understanding here, I can flash stock with mobile Odin, keep my root have stock recovery and then be able to get ota updates without a problem (or use kies to get the update, either way is fine by me).
If I am correct I love you all more and more everyday I come here

Just trying to confirm my understanding
Mohamedselim said:
If you have the mobile odin pro (paid) and managed to flash stock firmware (the updated one) that you downloaded from www.samfirmware.com (register first) then you will be able to retain root after flashing if you checked the everroot option in mobile odin pro
Or receive the latest firmware via kies then you could root it afterwards ( root the updated firmware)
Or flash the updated firmware from samfirmware via odin pc 1.85 and then root again as usual
As i know no flashable zip to flash to give you the stock recovery
I suggest update via pc odin and forgetting about update via kies
If anytime you want to use kies for update, you could flash first stock firmware via pc odin then update or flash the updated firmware directly then root
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So this is kind of a bump since I am trying to understand if I am correct here. I am still new to all this and want to learn things.
If I use Mobile Odin Pro to flash stock firmware with EverRoot on my P3113, then I can still receive normal updates either via OTA or Kies (which is preferred?). This will keep stock recovery, for the updates, and preserve my root so I can enjoy the benefits.
Does this plan run the risk of bricking on updating? Due to the fact that it is rooted, I thought you can NOT do a regular update (or was that just because of CWM being the recovery?).
What happens when Jelly Bean goes to roll out, will this brick the device since it is a whole new OS? Will this break root and I will need to re-root?
Just trying to understand everything before I make a decision on how I proceed with my device from here. I have never used Mobile Odin, and this is my first rooted device, so I apologize for my questions, but how else will I learn?
Thanks for your time, and your help, and as I said I love you all more and more each time I come around here, since I usually learn something new

Root link
hi can someone post the root link for download?

Hat Trick said:
hi can someone post the root link for download?
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Sorry guys it's right there in development.

Software updates for rooted phone

Hello,,,,,:laugh::laugh:
I have rooted my phone ( using stock rom not custom)
when I check for software update this message comes :
your device hase been modified , software updates are not available
Is there a way to overcome this ?
Or rooted phone software updates available via odin only ....

You can try disabling the update service. And yes, you can't get ota updates. You must flash updates via odin, which is imo not a disadvantage. If you just flash updates via odin, you also don't need to do any wipes.
edit: You need to re-root after updating ROM, stock rom will also bring back stock recovery.

Kamairo said:
You can try disabling the update service. And yes, you can't get ota updates. You must flash updates via odin, which is imo not a disadvantage. If you just flash updates via odin, you also don't need to do any wipes.
edit: You need to re-root after updating ROM, stock rom will also bring back stock recovery.
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But I should check for updates manually , If I do no wipe I will lost my data or apps or not like ota updates ?

eslam hassan said:
But I should check for updates manually , If I do no wipe I will lost my data or apps or not like ota updates ?
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Multiple posts say no or corrupt OTA updates if rooted .
Use Kies to update .
jje

I would just do it with Odin. Pretty fast and reliable, takes me ~3-5 min to flash a whole stock FW (ca. 1,2 GB packed). And no, you won't loose data doing this.
Don't try to do OTA if rooted/on custom recovery!
To know if there is an update just check sammobile every now and then.

easy to fix
eslam hassan said:
Hello,,,,,:laugh::laugh:
I have rooted my phone ( using stock rom not custom)
when I check for software update this message comes :
your device hase been modified , software updates are not available
Is there a way to overcome this ?
Or rooted phone software updates available via odin only ....
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Get yourself triangle away - it resets the counter - I had the same problem with stock rom
There are a couple of threads how to do it. Not complicated great software.
Kies will tell you about any new update - dont use kies for actual update as you will loose root and you have to start all over again
Use odin to do yr incremental update -again there are several threads here
I personally just want to be rooted no custom room
Happy with my simple root

registrar said:
Get yourself triangle away - it resets the counter - I had the same problem with stock rom
There are a couple of threads how to do it. Not complicated great software.
Kies will tell you about any new update - dont use kies for actual update as you will loose root and you have to start all over again
Use odin to do yr incremental update -again there are several threads here
I personally just want to be rooted no custom room
Happy with my simple root
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Actually, if he only flashed CWM to root and no custom ROM at all, the counter will be zero. Flashing a stock ROM with ODIN will not increase Counter.

I used framaroot app.
Installed superuser and sam exploit. It stated it was modified...crap!. I ran it again using supersu and frodo exploit and everything now states official. Including in download.
Im running stock 4.1.2 with root and everytjing official. I didnt use triangle away.
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[Q] New Android user with Two questions

New to Android and spent many days reading here and on other sites before recently rooting My Verizon Galaxy S3. It has TWRP Recovery, but still using Stock Rom. I don't know if I will install a custom rom or not. I do know that there will be at least one more OTA update for this phone. Which gives me two choices; block the OTA update to prevent it from being pushed to my phone OR unroot and use Odin to flash back to stock and take the OTA.
I believe that I can block the OTA by using "TB Pro" to freeze the correct update file, which I think is "SDM 1.0" - is this correct? If I go back, what is the most compatible Odin Version to use with the Verizon SG-3?

joekiv said:
New to Android and spent many days reading here and on other sites before recently rooting My Verizon Galaxy S3. It has TWRP Recovery, but still using Stock Rom. I don't know if I will install a custom rom or not. I do know that there will be at least one more OTA update for this phone. Which gives me two choices; block the OTA update to prevent it from being pushed to my phone OR unroot and use Odin to flash back to stock and take the OTA.
I believe that I can block the OTA by using "TB Pro" to freeze the correct update file, which I think is "SDM 1.0" - is this correct? If I go back, what is the most compatible Odin Version to use with the Verizon SG-3?
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Idk if we'll see another OTA but I like your enthusiasm. Yes, that is correct about TB. You would use the VRBMB1 stock tar to flash in Odin to revert back to out of box factory setup. You would use Odin 3.07. Once that tar is flashed, you'll receive an OTA shortly after rebooting into the rom. It would be for VRBMF1 4.1.2 which is the latest OTA.
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SlimSnoopOS said:
Idk if we'll see another OTA but I like your enthusiasm. Yes, that is correct about TB. You would use the VRBMB1 stock tar to flash in Odin to revert back to out of box factory setup. You would use Odin 3.07. Once that tar is flashed, you'll receive an OTA shortly after rebooting into the rom. It would be for VRBMF1 4.1.2 which is the latest OTA.
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Thank you for that information

[Recovery][4.4.4] STOCK RECOVERY for XT1033

As we All know we are going to get Android 5.0 Lollipop OTA in coming days and for OTA stock recovery is necessary.
Downloading whole firmware just for stock recovery is not worthy that's why I'm sharing stock recovery of Asian variant(XT1033 including India).
LINK:-
Stock recovery(Here)
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Waiting so anxiously for Lollipop

BUT, flashing the ENTIRE firmware to OTA your device is a MUST.
OTA will fail if your device was rooted then unrooted because system partition was modified by root.. So, for the update to succesfully work, you have to flash entire firmware (including stock recovery), like it or not, to have an untouched system partition.
Flashing only stock recovery again is not enough, it will make no difference, OTA will fail.
So, this thread is kinda useless if you think about it...

MarckozZ said:
BUT, flashing the ENTIRE firmware to OTA your device is a MUST.
OTA will fail if your device was rooted then unrooted because system partition was modified by root.. So, for the update to succesfully work, you have to flash entire firmware (including stock recovery), like it or not, to have an untouched system partition.
Flashing only stock recovery again is not enough, it will make no difference, OTA will fail.
So, this thread is kinda useless if you think about it...
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Now that you said... Agreed
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Flashing Stock recovery alone wont work... I tried flashing the stock recovery alone for upgrading to 4.4.4.. but it didn't work..... We need to flash the whole firmware again for successful upgrade..

But it's good if somebody else want to find official recovery
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[Question] Is there a way to convert custom revocery files into flashable odin files?

Hi,
I have a Note edge N915W8 which i updated to 5.1.1 the moment it became available on Sammobile (big mistake). as everyone knows, i lost root in the process. And no root availble at this time.
Important history of the phone:
I acquired the device from a friend that had rooted it when it was in its original stock 4..4.4 config. He then tried to flash a custom rom which ended up in a bootloop which he was unable to recover from because there wasn't a stock rom available at the time. Long story short, I ended up with a bootlooped Note Edge and after a week i managed to acquire someones backup zip from XDA -- which i then used to free my device from the loop and function properly with root.
I got too eager and flashed the 5.1.1 without reading up on it and lost root.
So, i was hoping there would be a way or method that i could use that would allow me to use that same custom recovery backup of 4.4.4, only this time be able to flash it through odin on my stock 5.1.1
Any advice would help.
Thanks

From what I know once you take 5.1 update you cant backroll to 4.4.4.
BOOTLOADER was patch'd BY the GREATS to throw another wrech in our plans!
And also I do blv there is ROOT for 5.1 but it trips knox & you have to install twrp thru Odin then flash SUPERSU & BEASTMODE Kernel that allows root and then take root
READ THIS
http://forum.xda-developers.com/not.../root-supported-kernel-5-1-1-testers-t3176651

Ickyz said:
From what I know once you take 5.1 update you cant backroll to 4.4.4.
BOOTLOADER was patch'd BY the GREATS to throw another wrech in our plans!
And also I do blv there is ROOT for 5.1 but it trips knox & you have to install twrp thru Odin then flash SUPERSU & BEASTMODE Kernel that allows root and then take root
READ THIS
http://forum.xda-developers.com/not.../root-supported-kernel-5-1-1-testers-t3176651
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Thanks I appreciate it.
just out of curiosity, Are you running a rooted 5.1? or have you heard any feedback about this method
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itsmemikeeey said:
Thanks I appreciate it.
just out of curiosity, Are you running a rooted 5.1? or have you heard any feedback about this method
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No I cant get Twrp 2 flash thru Odin as md5 everything I download comes out as IMG & that does me no good