Do we have to wait for Samsung pay to come out before we are able to test out the new mobile payment on traditional magnetic card readers? I don't think Google Wallet will support it, but does anyone know if it is possible to use the app produced by LoopPay? maybe it's possible since they are the company Samsung bought to be able to put the tech in the phone.
I haven't had the chance to try it out myself, so wondered if anyone else had found a way to test it out.
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I'd like to get into using NFC for payments at shops now that I have a Galaxy s5. But which is the best app to use? Google Wallet? What else is available, what would be the most widely accepted? I tried Googling for some advice but didn't find anything comprehensive. Help!
Folks, I just received my new Gear S2, and was surprised to see that Samsung Pay wasn't installed, or even available yet for this device. Does anyone know when we will be seeing it here in the states?
Thanks so much in advance!
I asked samsung support. The rep on the other end kept saying the gear s2 doesnt support it.
I told him about all the marketing that was done and he played dumb.
Very dissatisfied here.
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Actually the rep was kinda right. i read an article online somewhere that said samsung pay uses "mst" as well as nfc, this is the main difference to android pay but the gear s2 doesnt have mst installed. i dont know very much about these two techs im not sure if its a hardware or software installation or both perhaps but i do know samsung pay needs both to function, at least the current version does anyway. although samsung did say they would be releasing samsung pay for their wearables but didnt specify if it would be for existing models or a brand new model entirely
Originalphan said:
Actually the rep was kinda right. i read an article online somewhere that said samsung pay uses "mst" as well as nfc, this is the main difference to android pay but the gear s2 doesnt have mst installed. i dont know very much about these two techs im not sure if its a hardware or software installation or both perhaps but i do know samsung pay needs both to function, at least the current version does anyway. although samsung did say they would be releasing samsung pay for their wearables but didnt specify if it would be for existing models or a brand new model entirely
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MST is magnetic secure transmission, it is a hardware chip that emulates the magnetic strip on a credit/debit card.
NFC is near field communications. It uses a coil in the back of your phone to transmit signal to a coil in a receiver.
NFC is used in Android Pay, Apple Pay, and Samsung Pay (when you place your phone on a terminal equipped with NFC)
MST is used only by Samsung Pay, it is what allows you to use Samsung Pay on terminals not equipped with NFC. It is a 'backup' and not necessary for Samsung Pay to work. This is why Samsung Pay is supposed to work on the gear S2 someday. It will be limited to NFC equipped terminals though.
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Unless Samsung drops the ball, in 2016
Originalphan said:
Actually the rep was kinda right. i read an article online somewhere that said samsung pay uses "mst" as well as nfc, this is the main difference to android pay but the gear s2 doesnt have mst installed. i dont know very much about these two techs im not sure if its a hardware or software installation or both perhaps but i do know samsung pay needs both to function, at least the current version does anyway. although samsung did say they would be releasing samsung pay for their wearables but didnt specify if it would be for existing models or a brand new model entirely
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Samsung has repeatedly said that the Gear S2 NFC hardware capability will be enabled via a firmware update to make it work for Samsung Pay (using NFC only, as it does not have MST hardware) some time in 2016, in some countries, for some phones. They advertise it on the Gear S2 page on their global website. Scroll down to the bottom.
http://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/gear-s2/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRvfSKw6B_Y
This looks cool, cannot wait for Samsung Pay to be working on the gear S2!
nmnm4alll said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRvfSKw6B_Y
This looks cool, cannot wait for Samsung Pay to be working on the gear S2!
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But thats different, in Korea we already have few things for the NFC capabilities but still no Samsung Pay :|
Well, here it is September & S2 Bluetooth users have had Samsung Pay for over a month but it seems Samsung is sticking it to us 3G users for some unknown reason(since they won't say ANYTHING as to why we can't get it). At least they could explain to their customers why a key feature we expected and they STILL advertise isn't working. It might stop me from filing a complaint with my state Attorney Generals office.
I thought I saw something that it is harder to integrate it with the carriers on the 3G.
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I've been using Android pay for a week but have found that where I live there are a lot of terminals that don't accept tap to pay via nfc.
I notice that samsung pay can emulate the magnetic strip used on older terminals so thought may be worth giving it a go.
I tried to download the app from the play store but it says my device isn't supported! I could have sworn the s7 was supposed to be supported so am at a loss as to why I'm barred from using it.
Is anyone else here having the same problem?
i have a us sprint version and samsung pay works for me. i just have to wait for the bank to open tomorrow and have my card verified. my app runs and allowed me to add the card just have to get it verified before i can use it. i used it on my note 5 and yes any terminal that u can swipe a card with u should be able to use samsung pay with. if u root your phone u break samsung pay fyi
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I've been using Android pay for a week but have found that where I live there are a lot of terminals that don't accept tap to pay via nfc.
I notice that samsung pay can emulate the magnetic strip used on older terminals so thought may be worth giving it a go.
I tried to download the app from the play store but it says my device isn't supported! I could have sworn the s7 was supposed to be supported so am at a loss as to why I'm barred from using it.
Is anyone else here having the same problem?
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Samsung havent activated Samsung Pay in the UK yet. That why you cant use it.
At the moment is only US, China And Korea got access to Samsung Pay
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sand1303 said:
i have a us sprint version and samsung pay works for me. i just have to wait for the bank to open tomorrow and have my card verified. my app runs and allowed me to add the card just have to get it verified before i can use it. i used it on my note 5 and yes any terminal that u can swipe a card with u should be able to use samsung pay with. if u root your phone u break samsung pay fyi
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I think OP is from the UK not US, that why OP is having trouble with it
i wish they would have got it going on the gear s2. that's one of the reasons i got one when i had my note 5 but they didn't have it for the us version of the watch
Using Samsung Pay, with T-Mobile in US, works everywhere. I also have the iPhone 6S, stopped using it months ago, Apple Pay has problems everywhere, Samsung Pay works anywhere and everywhere.
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I've been using Android pay for a week but have found that where I live there are a lot of terminals that don't accept tap to pay via nfc.
I notice that samsung pay can emulate the magnetic strip used on older terminals so thought may be worth giving it a go.
I tried to download the app from the play store but it says my device isn't supported! I could have sworn the s7 was supposed to be supported so am at a loss as to why I'm barred from using it.
Is anyone else here having the same problem?
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What version of s7 do you have? I have a G930FD, I flashed it with firmware from UAE, csc code XSG, and installed the latest Samsung Pay and Samsung Pay Frame. And it works very well in U.S. You can find the thread for this.
Thanks. I thought samsung pay would have been usable upon launch in the UK and missed that it hadn't been released here yet.
I don't fancy flashing another country's firmware for now so will just be patient and wait for its release here.
If it wasn't for the magnetic strip emulation I wouldn't bother but even some of the big chain stores don't have contactless here so could really use it.
FWIW I have a G930F
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FWIW I have a G930F
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I have the 930F, running on AT&T. My phone was originally TPA( Panama) I flashed XSG version...Samsung pay is working just fine...
I can't get it to work either. Running a 930f on t-mobile.
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I know Samsung Pay only works with select flagship phones out of the box. I also remember reading months ago they were experimenting with opening up SP to other OEM's I believe Samsung Pay Light is what they called it. Is there anyway to get SP working? I have $20 worth of credits from my old s8. I definitely don't plan on getting a Samsung phone anytime soon. I also love Samsung Pay even if I can't use the magnetic magic that allows me to use it at places with no NFC.
I am expecting that this isn't possible but I figure I would ask.
Also I did Google and even tried to sideload the APK. It was Korean version and would not let me use it because I don't live on South Korea.
Recently I get all sorts of notifications saying Samsung wants to install Samsung Pay on my S7.
I have Android Pay and it is better.
Android Pay
More Banks in Canada and Android Watch Support.
Samsung Pay
Few banks in Canada and no Android Watch Support.
MST is not used in Canada, I am not sure but I believe Samsung Pay also does handle near field technology like Android Pay ? Am I correct ? ... So this should nor really be an issue.
I think I found a way to stop the notifications but I can not root and get rid of Samsung Bloat all together because the phone is company owned and also Android Pay will not work with rooted devices.
What gives Samsung the right to force Bloat like Samsung Pay if you will never use it ?
I think I know the answers to my questions ? Am I correct ?
Samsung Pay has everything, Android Pay has but in addition has MST. If I can find banks that support Samsung Pay and live without tapping with my Smart Watch ..... Samsung Pay maybe better.
Samsung is able to force bloat on you because they sell millions more phones than anybody else and people keep on buying.
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What gives Samsung the right to force Bloat like Samsung Pay if you will never use it ?
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You bought a Samsung phone, that's what gives them the right, read the smallprint
To fix it without root, use a package disabler (Package Disabler Pro)