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so I'm still liking the sensation have a few problems with it but 1 thing I'm unsure of is how hot can this thing get before I need to worry.
the widget that I use shows me the temperature of my phone
most of the time it's just under 100 or just over 100 degrees fahrenheit, however when I'm playing a game right asphalt 6 this sucker really starts to heat up .
to like 116 118 fahrenheit .
so I ask how hot is too hot at what temperature should I start to worry about overheating or damaging the phone somehow
Don't worry, when I'm playing angrybirds my phone gets at least as hot as yours. Try installing a home-cooked ROM from the development section, these guys know their things and will get you better sensation for sure.
Again, heat is normal. At least with my knowledge.
I know a lot of people don't let their phones get over 45*C, which is about how hot your phone is getting. I would say 1) that temp shouldn't be bad as long as it's not at that for long periods of time, and 2) as long as it isn't getting hotter than that, you should also be fine. Still, underclocking it with custom kernel wouldn't hurt. Our phones are powerful enough that underclocking it a bit shouldn't take a hit on performance, plus it should take away some of the heat.
My phone idles at 29*C and gets up to 45-50*C while playing games (Asphalt 6 is one of them). I left the phone charging in the window under direct sunlight and it hit 48-49*C while idle/screen off (didn't do that again!).
As with PCs, as long as it doesn't stay high for extended periods of time I'm sure you're fine. You can try custom ROMs/Kernels to see if one is better than the other.
OT but I remember my laptop getting to 90*C running an "unsupported" OS on it.
122*F is the damage point.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA App
Sorry for weird question here. I want to ask is frequently flashing ROM's harmful for the phone? I change my ROM once or twice a week and I'm concerned because it gets very hot while flashing and booting up. Can it's performance or something decrease because of that? Any tips will be appreciated!
In terms of heat because I'm not 100% sure about the other factors as this has many variables.
Just be aware of when and where you use recovery and clear dalvik etc. Flashing ROMs generates a lot of heat especially on first boot if they are deodexed
So if it's a hot day be aware of temps as it will get hot. I use a laptop cooling pad when flashing ROMs or clearing dalvik where possible as this reduces heat and keeps air flow around the body of the phone.
Someone said they baked their phone by using TWRP while charging and the adhesive melted and the body slipped.
So just be careful or temps as TWRP displays it. 60°+ is around where I start to worry about cooling it down. They're made for gaming etc though so a bit of heat won't kill it too quickly
Hi, 3 day ago I recieved my Mi4c (3gb) and just after couple of minutes surfing on the net I realized, that the top of the phone is really hot (the bottom was normal). The next day I tried it with game - after just one or two rounds (about 2 minutes) phone got hot again - again at the same area. I downloaded some app and I looked at the temperature after running the game - it showed even 55 degrees Celsia. Is it faulty piece or is it just software issue, which can be fixed by different ROM ?
Under load, the SD808 can get pretty warm.
Add to that the fact that MIUI (in all of its various forms) is a steaming, overheated pile of rhinoceros feces and you have a terrible combination just asking for heating problems.
TS CM13 does a pretty good job of mitigating the software issues that lead to heating.
The phone will always get warm when playing moderately intensive games or when used in direct sunlight on warm (30c+) days.
I found that the miui versions some vendros provide are manipulated or corrupted by vendors,
I suggest you check if your bootloader is unlocked, install a recovery, do a total format (not a factory reset, a full system format from recovery) and install the latest miui,
I had overheating issues and the phone would eat the battery away in less then 12 hours, i did this and im currently going on 39h standby and around 1 - 1.5 hours screen time and i still have 34% of the battery life.
Clean house, start from zero and you might be surprised.
Just installed MIUI 7.1.6.0 Global stable from xiaomi.eu and I like it more tham MIUI 8 already. Plus, phone seems to be a little cooler. Snapdragon 808 is still a hot chip though, so don't expect miracles.
Switched from MIUI 8 because of heat and battery life issues.
I tested different rooms and every room has overheating. The only difference is the time the systems downclock the CPU.
In cm13 I changed the values so it doesn't close the big cores so fast.
But the big cores are still the most time off.
Normally my Temps are between 40 and 60 °C
And that's bad.
Miui doesn't change anything.. Only the time of throttling.
I don't need a phone that throttles itself when turned on.
When I'm home I'll try to open the back cover and take a look.
Maybe I can hard mod it in some way.
I'm facing the same problems here.
I use dual Sim, so I thought this could be the signal usage. But my battery is draining faster and faster. Some times even dropping from 14% to 10% in 1 sec!
When using wifi, the cpu reaches over 50ºC (currently 57-59ºC). MIUI 8 didn't help much.
I'm using my phone a lot, 3G and screen on for long time, but it's dropping from 100 to 15% in less than 7 hours...
Is there anything that I could do?
Install MIUI 7.1.6.0, temps and battery are better, or go Apollo the way and flash CM13 or Slim
I have over-heating problem too. Specially by keeping screen on for several minutes. I'm on miui 8 by xiaomi.edu
The overheating is caused by a ****ty rom some vendors use,
Install the latest recovery, and do a full advance wipe (everything except OTG USB), then do the format,
DO NOT REBOOT the phone, connect it to the PC and copy over the latest miui weekly (i used 6.9.1) and flash it, then see if it keeps overheating.
Apparently some of the malware some vendors install are hard to get rid of, i had weekly, monthly, slim6, Teamsuperluminal and Omni rom installed, and they all showed the same issue. it wasnt until i did this "sanitation" process i managed to get rid of the heat issue.
kar5ten said:
When I'm home I'll try to open the back cover and take a look.
Maybe I can hard mod it in some way.
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You found some way to hard mod it ? =) The snapdragon 808 would be very powerful if there aren´t that overheats.
Making some holes in the back cover (get out hot air) or give more space (case is extremly tightly built) ? A heat pipe (passive cooling)?
Things are a lot better using an undervolted kernel. Built one from kuma sources (not for MIUI), I could share if you want.
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You found some way to hard mod it ? =) The snapdragon 808 would be very powerful if there aren´t that overheats.
Making some holes in the back cover (get out hot air) or give more space (case is extremly tightly built) ? A heat pipe (passive cooling)?
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nice idea with passive cooling
i glued my nhd 14 to the back that helped
no serious i dont have any clue to make the phone cooler with hardware modifications.
without the backcover it isnt cooler. the difference isnt noticable.
i would say how the cpu is build into the phone is wrong.
for me the phone isnt worth it anymore. im moving to a BQ or the HTC10.
why should i use a phone that i have to downclock to a fraction of its performance ?
or i use normally and get throttled after 20 minutes?
and it doesnt matter which os i use any miui or cm version suffers from overheating.
so i think ether xiaomi make mistakes while building the phone or it is just the bad 800 series.
but looking at the lg g4 the picture is the same. so qualcomm is to blame for it.
sorry for this but the only solution is to use a fan on the back OR the better solution buy a better phone ;(
edit:still finding grammar fails
For anyone willing to try this is an undervolted kernel based on kuma's sources and a modified msm8992-regulator.dtsi with lower ceil voltages.
Tested only on CM13 but should work for other ROMs based on CM13. It can make your phone unstable (freezes, crashes), so before you try either keep a backup of your current kernel or simply boot (don't flash!) the kernel to ensure that everything works normally:
Code:
fastboot boot undervoltedk.img
@Ydraulikos
im already using a kernel from kuma (Resurrection Rom) and yeah its very great, less overheating. The Rom itself is slim for less heating too.
But its overheating though while playing 3d games for a longer time.
@kar5ten
..nhd 14.. that would look funny xD.
Yeah the problem is the cpu. Snapdragon 808 and 810 suffering from overheating, 810 more.
But xiaomi could handle this too. Not use this cpu or built better cooling system, instead make it as thin. The most temperatures i have is on the top right. If they used passive cooling like pipe heats for distribute the heat, we don´t have this problem or rather less overheating.
@Ydraulikos thanks i will try this.
@Danny94
i made another test.
i use resurrection rom 5.7.1 with oc kernel 1.12 (intelliactive gov.) custom temp. throttle at 75 C
i opened the back and added aluminium foil .
10 layers on the upper side where the cpu sits and 6 layers above the battery and the cpu. they both are connected.
now i run antutu 3-4 times and i got these results
75899-74012-70371-68155
with max temp of 53 C after those 4 runs.
the idle temps are now at 30 -35 C most time
but i only tested it for 2 hours
@kar5ten
oh nice that sounds like a good idee! And withouth foil wich results you get, antutu - temps ?
The Alumiunium foil could take the heat from the cpu and distribute it over the device, for better result thermal paste as connection between cpu and foil could help.
Maybe with another material (foil) you could improve it as well. The best result you would get maybe if the backcover consists of metal, this way you could get the heat out of the phone, air cools metal. (problems.: back cover can get hot, you can heat back cover with hands[maybe a case])
Care about that foil doesn´t heat up the battery and the metal can disturb radio signals (gps wifi mobile data).
Could you share a picture as well of your modified version here in the forum, maybe one too please how it looks inside. At the moment i don´t have a plan how to open the back cover. =)
I will post some pictures but next weekend. Before I open it again I want to test it.
I don't know the exact results from antutu before I modded it.
First 75k
2nd 60k
3rd 55 k
At the moment I didn't noticed any signal drop or something.
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I will post some pictures but next weekend. Before I open it again I want to test it.
I don't know the exact results from antutu before I modded it.
First 75k
2nd 60k
3rd 55 k
At the moment I didn't noticed any signal drop or something.
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Hi,
Did you have the opportunity to take some pictures of your mi4c modding?
would be also great to have a slight bigger case it probably help with the overheating.
best regards,
John
@patadas I get a new case this weekend. Then I will take some photos.
But the problem is to open the phone
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@patadas I get a new case this weekend. Then I will take some photos.
But the problem is to open the phone
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To open the case i have found a video, see the video and tell me if the video does help in anything?
by the way : Xiaomi Mi4c Teardown
http://www.myfixguide.com/manual/xiaomi-mi4c-teardown/
Oneplus 7 Pro gets too hot even for just gaming a few minutes to a near hour.. I think the issue was the changes made to Oxygen OS because my Oneplus 6T ALSO GETS TOO HOT now using the last few Beta updates, which was not the case in the past (I am certain).. Also a few updates ago made the 6T show the "Phone is getting too hot" message, which DID NOT HAPPEN BEFORE, so definitely something is up.
Also, all background apps have been controlled too (literally restricted every single one and already on force stop)... Still the same, gets too hot.
Even if you factory reset the device, it's still the same, so I definitely think it's the changes they made to Oxygen OS. Compare it to other Snapdragon 855 devices and you'll see that OP heats up more now even with the cooling system.
The Games that I've been playing before that produced minimal heat even in hours of gameplay are now producing too much heat in just a few minutes... This is unacceptable.
Hopefully this issue gets resolved soon, users can help in reporting and testing.
Yes I confirm that,My game exits automatically after playing for few minutes & the phone gets very hot
Which game? I tested Asphalt 9, phone never gets hot. I'm running latest stable OOS, full stock not modified
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Which game? I tested Asphalt 9, phone never gets hot. I'm running latest stable OOS, full stock not modified
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Pes 2019, I'm also using without any modifications
giaur said:
Which game? I tested Asphalt 9, phone never gets hot. I'm running latest stable OOS, full stock not modified
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*Ragnarok M
*Errant Hunter's Soul
Dawn of Isles
*LifeAfter
Mobile Legends
Evil Lands
Extra Ordinary Ones
King of Kings
*Talion
*AxE (Alliance VS Empire)
*PUGM
The games with the * are the games that never gave the previous 6T with no problems, until the last few beta updates... And now those changes are also being felt in my 7 Pro.
The "your phone is getting hot" message didn't come before even hours of gameplay even on MAX SETTINGS, so I'm certain the problem is Kernel-side.
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Yes I confirm that,My game exits automatically after playing for few minutes & the phone gets very hot
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Yes, and I'm also using an unmodified, unrooted fully-stock Oxygen OS.
Tried everything, I think this is kernel-side changes. Hopefully more people especially mobile gamers report this problem.
Freyelis said:
Oneplus 7 Pro gets too hot even for just gaming a few minutes to a near hour.. I think the issue was the changes made to Oxygen OS because my Oneplus 6T ALSO GETS TOO HOT now using the last few Beta updates, which was not the case in the past (I am certain).. Also a few updates ago made the 6T show the "Phone is getting too hot" message, which DID NOT HAPPEN BEFORE, so definitely something is up.
Also, all background apps have been controlled too (literally restricted every single one and already on force stop)... Still the same, gets too hot.
Even if you factory reset the device, it's still the same, so I definitely think it's the changes they made to Oxygen OS. Compare it to other Snapdragon 855 devices and you'll see that OP heats up more now even with the cooling system.
The Games that I've been playing before that produced minimal heat even in hours of gameplay are now producing too much heat in just a few minutes... This is unacceptable.
Hopefully this issue gets resolved soon, users can help in reporting and testing.
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yes I'm experiencing this issue too, it started when I tested my phone on a benchmark app and heated more than usual but from that day after it heats everytime I play PUBG or sometimes even watching Netflix.
Finally more people are experiencing this too, I tried both latest stable AND beta ver. of OOS, and had this heating issue, I even changed the Kernel to see if it'll make a difference but no.
Also, I saw some other people with the same issue on twitter, maybe someone should open an issue on the official OnePlus forums.
Hi there!
A couple of days ago I started noticing that my Oneplus 7 Pro was hotter than usual. Way hotter than usual. So I removed the 2 apps I recently installed. Nothing changed.
Just so you know, I'm using Oxygen OS 10.0.5.GM21BA with XXX NoLimits 10.2 and I haven't touched/updated the rom in weeks.
This morning my device was so hot I had to put it in the freezer.
When I took it out, I the CPU temperature: 40C (104F).
Then I let it rest for 5 min. The temperature rose to 48C (118.4).
So I used it for 10 min (normal use). It was 71C (159.8F).
The battery temperature, instead, varies between 30-ish C and 40-ish C.
I don't think this is normal at all, but I have no idea of what to do.
Any suggestions are welcome!
Hello Folks,
I am planning to buy poco X2 for my brother. I just want to know whether the device gets hotter when we play pubg? For sure, my brother won't switch to custom roms. So in stock os, is it getting hotter?
Also heard it device gets hotter while charging. Is it true?
using official charger, phone does not get hot, but its winter here so can't say anything for summers.
on PUBG yes phone gets hot on longer gaming sessions, i personally don't use case which helps but it gets uncomfortable after some time and you may also see device overheat pop-up. (no reboot or crash issues though)
Yes phones generate Heat while charging but it's normal for fast charging devices they tend to get hot while charging ( it's summer here almost 38° and device heats up to like 40° max)
Now if we come to gaming Device heats up to 40°-41° max while gaming said that it become little uncomfortable to hold without back cover
But you will not see decrease in performance as it's designed like that it will dissipate heat and not compromise performance
I will recommend this device ? You can definitely buy for your brother
But my suggestion if you can increase budget go with flagship processor if your focus is only gaming