Hey everybody,
i have bean looking for information about back up and wipe for oneplus one for hours now but i failed to get the answers that i need.
so my questions are:
What is th best way to back up everyrhing on my phone when i am flashing a new room, and by everything i mean apps and their data, pics , music, sms , call logs......etc
My second question, what are the different types of wipe do and what do i need to wipe when flashing a new rom and will it erase everything on my phone ncluding pics and music? and what is exactly considered as internal storage and what does it erase.
Thanks in advance.
monmon238 said:
Hey everybody,
i have bean looking for information about back up and wipe for oneplus one for hours now but i failed to get the answers that i need.
so my questions are:
What is th best way to back up everyrhing on my phone when i am flashing a new room, and by everything i mean apps and their data, pics , music, sms , call logs......etc
My second question, what are the different types of wipe do and what do i need to wipe when flashing a new rom and will it erase everything on my phone ncluding pics and music? and what is exactly considered as internal storage and what does it erase.
Thanks in advance.
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The best way to backup your apps is by using Titanium Backup. It'll backup all of your apps and their data, you need the pro version to backup call logs and messages but it's well worth it because the pro version also allows batch restore (without batch restore you need to individually press ok for each app that you're restoring). Titanium is by far the most important root app that's available. You don't need to backup your personal data (music, photos) on your internal storage because you don't wipe the internal storage when flashing a ROM.
When flashing a new ROM you need to perform what's called a full wipe, this is wiping system, data, cache, and dalvik cache. Using TWRP recovery (the best recovery) you enter the wipe menu from the main menu, then select advanced wipe, and then you can select the previously mentioned partitions to wipe. This does not wipe your internal storage (the user-accessible virtual sd card where all of your personal data resides), wiping the internal storage is never necessary when flashing a ROM.
If you're just updating the same ROM (flashing a newer version/build) you don't need to worry about wiping, you can just flash the zip and reboot. Only ever do this when updating the ROM you're currently using though, never when flashing a different ROM.
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Do you have to backup to stock rom or can you just install a rom on top on another without backing or w/e?
rasdabess said:
Do you have to backup to stock rom or can you just install a rom on top on another without backing or w/e?
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You should backup your rom before flashing, this way if anything goes wrong you can go back.
You should always wipe, wipe, wipe.
Wipe data/factory reset
Wipe cache partition
Go to Advanced and wipe Dalvik Cache
After the wipe go back and Install zip from sdcard. After install I do another wipe on the Dalvik Cache then fix permissions. Remember Wipe, Wipe, Wipe.
so as long as I do that then I can install a rom over another and delete the previous one while doing so?
rasdabess said:
Do you have to backup to stock rom or can you just install a rom on top on another without backing or w/e?
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I recommend making several backups.
First, make sure you have Clockworkmod installed via nvflash. Then make a backup. Download the backup to your pc for safe keeping (just in case things go wrong).
Use Titanium Backup (free version works, but buy the full one if you like it). Use the batch feature to back up all user apps. Do not back up system apps.
When installing a new rom, especially roms that use different versions of android, you should wipe everything you can except the external sd card (where you keep your backups). Wiping "system" is important.
If you need help, shout out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056847
If I have a backup on the internal sd card, when wipe data before flashing a rom, will that delete my nandroid backups? Don't know if I should backup my roms to internal storage or external.
Wipe data won't delete your nandroids on the internal but Odin a stock ROM and you will loose them... all of them.
I now backup on a weekly basis and transfer what need to extSD when I'm thinking of doing something potentially dumb.
Farabomb said:
Wipe data won't delete your nandroids on the internal but Odin a stock ROM and you will loose them... all of them.
I now backup on a weekly basis and transfer what need to extSD when I'm thinking of doing something potentially dumb.
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okay cool thanks. Just wanted to make sure it doesn't delete after wiping data.
Farabomb said:
I now backup on a weekly basis and transfer what need to extSD when I'm thinking of doing something potentially dumb.
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LOL at "potentially dumb".
Couldn't have put it any better myself. I use the same procedure, I make a weekly nandroid to the internal storage & then copy the backups to both my 64gig card & also to my PC occasionally.
I can't make a nandroid directly to my 64 gig card as I won't format it to FAT32 because of some of the restrictions of FAT32.
tu3218 said:
If I have a backup on the internal sd card, when wipe data before flashing a rom, will that delete my nandroid backups? Don't know if I should backup my roms to internal storage or external.
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No put them where ever you want.
Farabomb said:
Wipe data won't delete your nandroids on the internal but Odin a stock ROM and you will loose them... all of them.
I now backup on a weekly basis and transfer what need to extSD when I'm thinking of doing something potentially dumb.
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Not true...IF you wipe data/factory reset from stock recovery, it reformats the whole internal sd card(everything is wiped). Now if you wipe data from cwm recovery, then no nandroids are not deleted. Also odin does not wipe internal sd either...again you have to boot into stock recovery and wipe data/factory reset to reformat internal sd. I still always back my nandroids up to external sd, just incase my internal ever corrupts, I wont lose them!
droidstyle said:
Not true...IF you wipe data/factory reset from stock recovery, it reformats the whole internal sd card(everything is wiped). Now if you wipe data from cwm recovery, then no nandroids are not deleted. Also odin does not wipe internal sd either...again you have to boot into stock recovery and wipe data/factory reset to reformat internal sd. I still always back my nandroids up to external sd, just incase my internal ever corrupts, I wont lose them!
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Ahh yeah, that makes sense. That's how it was on my nexus with being just internal storage and nandroids never were deleted. Thanks for the clarification.
droidstyle said:
Not true...IF you wipe data/factory reset from stock recovery, it reformats the whole internal sd card(everything is wiped). Now if you wipe data from cwm recovery, then no nandroids are not deleted. Also odin does not wipe internal sd either...again you have to boot into stock recovery and wipe data/factory reset to reformat internal sd. I still always back my nandroids up to external sd, just incase my internal ever corrupts, I wont lose them!
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There's something in Odin that wipes it because when I used it to go back to stock it wiped mine...
Either way though, backup your nandroids to your ext card... saves you all the hassle lol
Does not erase backups unless they are stored internally by default
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I can see the stock recovery wiping it but since the OP used the term nandroid I assumed CWM. Good to know the stock wipes it clean if there is ever a time I have to send it back.
I had an issue back before we were unlocked and when I ODINed back to stock all the internal SD was wiped. Wasn't too pleased but my fault for not backing up.
Sidenote about backing up. I tend to backup the entire internal and external SD every Sunday. The app I use for backup doesn't see the S3 as a media device so I can't use it to make incremental backups. Is there any program that would do that? I use karens replicator for backup btw. That's the one that doesn't work.
I need to clear it - I made "wipe data/factory reset" in stock ICS recovery menu - is it going to cause deleting ROM (and reboot will make brick) OR just wil get it back to clean factory ROM?
I found few threads here about "wipe data"-thing, but it seems to me, that every version of Android / custom ROM / recovery type could behave different.
My device is Thinkpad Lenovo tablet (rooted) with Android 4.0.3..my apology by writing in here, but I'm a newbie on this forum and that's why I can't write in some threads, including more relevant ones.
Bumerank said:
I need to clear it - I made "wipe data/factory reset" in stock ICS recovery menu - is it going to cause deleting ROM (and reboot will make brick) OR just wil get it back to clean factory ROM?
I found few threads here about "wipe data"-thing, but it seems to me, that every version of Android / custom ROM / recovery type could behave different.
My device is Thinkpad Lenovo tablet (rooted) with Android 4.0.3..my apology by writing in here, but I'm a newbie on this forum and that's why I can't write in some threads, including more relevant ones.
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Well, in the recovery for our device that would just wipe the data and not the ROM. I use TWRP
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Hi guys, I've been flashing my new Galaxy S3 lately and have started to migrate my music library onto my internal 32GB. It's a healthy 15GB of music.
I run SynergyROM r66, and would like to load up r71 fairly soon, bu would not like to lose my music, as it is a pain to resync for me.
How do I do so without it reformatting my internal memory? I'm sticking with Synergy so I don't think I need to do a "clean wipe" right?
Is it as simple as Wipe Cache/Wipe Dalvik, then Install from SD, then reboot? No factory reset?
Any help is appreciated, thank you.
Blutonic said:
Hi guys, I've been flashing my new Galaxy S3 lately and have started to migrate my music library onto my internal 32GB. It's a healthy 15GB of music.
I run SynergyROM r66, and would like to load up r71 fairly soon, bu would not like to lose my music, as it is a pain to resync for me.
How do I do so without it reformatting my internal memory? I'm sticking with Synergy so I don't think I need to do a "clean wipe" right?
Is it as simple as Wipe Cache/Wipe Dalvik, then Install from SD, then reboot? No factory reset?
Any help is appreciated, thank you.
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data wipe/ factory reset from stock recovery formats internal memory. data/wipe factory reset from Cwm recovery only wipes system data and does not reformat internal sd, unless you manually do it thru mounts/storage menu in cwm...although you should be fine with just a cache wipe going to r71.
droidstyle said:
data wipe/ factory reset from stock recovery formats internal memory. data/wipe factory reset from Cwm recovery only wipes system data and does not reformat internal sd, unless you manually do it thru mounts/storage menu in cwm...although you should be fine with just a cache wipe going to r71.
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Cool, what about the Dalvik cache, what does that do?
Blutonic said:
Cool, what about the Dalvik cache, what does that do?
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I always wipe dalvik cache to be safe.
Blutonic said:
Cool, what about the Dalvik cache, what does that do?
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The Dalvik virtual machine deals with your apps. Whenever changing apps it's a good idea to clear it's cache so you don't have cached data for a different version of an app - this could confuse the machine and lead to problems.
Perfect. thanks for the help guys.
Wiping through cwm recovery in recovery (not the app itself) will not wipe your media or pictures or downloaded files etc. Your Music will be intact, but something not mentioned here yet, do you have an external sd card? Always a good idea to put that important stuff on it,or at least copies of it to be safe, including titanium backups. Though cwm won't wipe your media, if something goes wrong and you have to do a stock recovery, you may forget that cwm is NO LONGER there, and accidentally wipe your media like I did once bricking my galaxy player 5.0!
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annoyingduck said:
Wiping through cwm recovery in recovery (not the app itself) will not wipe your media or pictures or downloaded files etc. Your Music will be intact, but something not mentioned here yet, do you have an external sd card? Always a good idea to put that important stuff on it,or at least copies of it to be safe, including titanium backups. Though cwm won't wipe your media, if something goes wrong and you have to do a stock recovery, you may forget that cwm is NO LONGER there, and accidentally wipe your media like I did once bricking my galaxy player 5.0!
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Yea, I got it all backed up to one of the Hard Drives on my computer. This should go smoothly.
Ok, how do i completely wipe everything off of my AT&T 1.14 HOX, except for TWRP so that I can install a new rom.
RC196 said:
Ok, how do i completely wipe everything off of my AT&T 1.14 HOX, except for TWRP so that I can install a new rom.
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I assume you already have twrp installed if so boot into fast boot flash the boot. IMG of rom you desire them boot into recovery wipe system factory reset than flash ROM and enjoy
tactical kitten said:
I assume you already have twrp installed if so boot into fast boot flash the boot. IMG of rom you desire them boot into recovery wipe system factory reset than flash ROM and enjoy
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Can I delete everything leaving the TWRP folder and a copy of my rom?
RC196 said:
Can I delete everything leaving the TWRP folder and a copy of my rom?
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Are you talking about the internal SD? If you use Titanium Backup, then obviously you should not delete that folder, as that is where the backup files are located. Aside from that, if you don't want to keep any past data from apps, pics etc, then yes you can delete the internal SD contents (aside from the ROM and TWRP nandroid). There may be some other exceptions (particularly for other backup software that you may be using). But in general, the folders on the internal SD are disposable (if flashing a new ROM). When you install a new app after flashing, if the new app needs a folder on the SD, it will just be created automatically.
Aside from the internal SD, before flashing a new ROM do a factory reset (in TWRP not within hboot) and wipe Dalvik and cache. Nothing else really "needs" to be wiped. System partition (where the ROM is stored) will get wiped when the ROM flashes.
I like to format my SD every Sunday to keep this beast on a diet. Then I flash a Rom, inject it with steroids via a custom kernel, and watch it poop all over the s3's I work with
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redpoint73 said:
Are you talking about the internal SD? If you use Titanium Backup, then obviously you should not delete that folder, as that is where the backup files are located. Aside from that, if you don't want to keep any past data from apps, pics etc, then yes you can delete the internal SD contents (aside from the ROM and TWRP nandroid). There may be some other exceptions (particularly for other backup software that you may be using). But in general, the folders on the internal SD are disposable (if flashing a new ROM). When you install a new app after flashing, if the new app needs a folder on the SD, it will just be created automatically.
Aside from the internal SD, before flashing a new ROM do a factory reset (in TWRP not within hboot) and wipe Dalvik and cache. Nothing else really "needs" to be wiped. System partition (where the ROM is stored) will get wiped when the ROM flashes.
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Yes that's exactly what I want. To wipe out with a fresh start. No apps, no files.
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then do it buddy!!!
So when you say internal are you talking about the SD or everything?
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RC196 said:
So when you say internal are you talking about the SD or everything?
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If you want to wipe the SD card (then flash a ROM), the best way is probably to:
Connect phone to your computer, and copy your TWRP folder (nandroid) to your computer, along with any other backup data, such as Titanium Backup. Then wipe the SD in TWRP.
Mount USB to your computer again, and move the TWRP folder, new ROM zip file, and other backups (like Titanium).
Then in TWRP, factory reset, wipe cache, Wipe Dalvik, then install the ROM.
There is no reason to wipe system, as this gets wiped when your flash the ROM. Some people like to do it "just to be sure". But IMO it serves no purpose. Also keep in mind the second you wipe system, the phone will no longer boot, since you just wiped the OS. People seem to forget that a lot and ask "I wiped system, why won't my phone boot now?"
redpoint73 said:
If you want to wipe the SD card (then flash a ROM), the best way is probably to:
Connect phone to your computer, and copy your TWRP folder (nandroid) to your computer, along with any other backup data, such as Titanium Backup. Then wipe the SD in TWRP.
Mount USB to your computer again, and move the TWRP folder, new ROM zip file, and other backups (like Titanium).
Then in TWRP, factory reset, wipe cache, Wipe Dalvik, then install the ROM.
There is no reason to wipe system, as this gets wiped when your flash the ROM. Some people like to do it "just to be sure". But IMO it serves no purpose. Also keep in mind the second you wipe system, the phone will no longer boot, since you just wiped the OS. People seem to forget that a lot and ask "I wiped system, why won't my phone boot now?"
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Is it normal for TWRP to be 2.58GB?
No its not
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Are you talking about the TWRP folder? Your NANDROID backups are in there if you took any. That might explain why it's large.
Valohtar said:
Are you talking about the TWRP folder? Your NANDROID backups are in there if you took any. That might explain why it's large.
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Yes that was it. I just copied my backup to my pc. Freed up a lot of space on phone storage but in app storage it shows 4.23gb and under other it shows 3.85gb. Not sure what that is all about?
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No its not
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Yes, its somewhat normal. It depend on the size of the ROM that is currently on the phone, and the other data (apps, etc.). But its not unusual for a nandroid to be a GB or so, so if you have 2 nandroids on the SD = 2.5 GB.
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Yes, its somewhat normal. It depend on the size of the ROM that is currently on the phone, and the other data (apps, etc.). But its not unusual for a nandroid to be a GB or so, so if you have 2 nandroids on the SD = 2.5 GB.
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Thanks for the help
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What do you guys typically do when you try out new ROMs and want to do a clean flash and get back up and running quickly?
1. Restore via Google
(Very slow to redownload everything, doesnt restore everything)
2. Sony Backup/Restore
(Sometimes Restore doesnt work)
3. Titanium Backup
(This is what I currently do, but can also be extremely slow)
4. Titanum Backup (creating update.zip for use in TWRP)
(Backup only seems to allow backup to internal storage so I run out of space)
5. Something Else
I use twrp recovery menu to backup my data, system and kernel
I usually backup to my internal storage since its faster than my mSD
From there i wipe and flash
Or to restore wipe and restore (since cache/art cache wasnt included in the backup)
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Envious_Data said:
I use twrp recovery menu to backup my data, system and kernel
I usually backup to my internal storage since its faster than my mSD
From there i wipe and flash
Or to restore wipe and restore (since cache/art cache wasnt included in the backup)
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If you wipe/restore from TWRP, then haven't you've just wiped your brand new ROM and returned back where you started?
My question is specifically for people who try custom ROMs do a backup and restore.
eng3 said:
If you wipe/restore from TWRP, then haven't you've just wiped your brand new ROM and returned back where you started?
My question is specifically for people who try custom ROMs do a backup and restore.
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I think i made a bit of a typo there
when going to flash
- backup
- wipe
- flash rom
- flash gapps if needed
when going to restore
- wipe (cache, art cache)
- restore
I'm sorry, I still don't understand.
1. You backup (system, data, etc)
2. wipe
3. Flash rom (which writes new rom to system and data)
4. Then you restore your backup, which now overwrites system and data, thus erasing the new rom you just flashed
I need a way to restore apps and app data while keeping the new rom, otherwise it defeats the purpose