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[Q] Is S-OFF required for custom recoveries/ROMs?

I just got my device today and rooted with WeakSauce. As expected, firewater failed. I am wonder if I need to have S-OFF in order to flash TWRP and/or some custom ROMs. If I don't need it, I'd rather save the $25 that I'd have to spend on SunShine.

himom said:
I just got my device today and rooted with WeakSauce. As expected, firewater failed. I am wonder if I need to have S-OFF in order to flash TWRP and/or some custom ROMs. If I don't need it, I'd rather save the $25 that I'd have to spend on SunShine.
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Yes you need that on this device to flash or write anything to system..
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I thought you could still flash a rom with a boot image. No?

etracyirl said:
I thought you could still flash a rom with a boot image. No?
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How do you install a recovery with weakauce root only? That would be new to me
Edit. You either need s-off or s-on with unlocked bootloader. An you need s-off on HTC VZW m8 to unlock bootloader ..
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Tigerstown said:
How do you install a recovery with weakauce root only? That would be new to me
Edit. You either need s-off or s-on with unlocked bootloader. An you need s-off on HTC VZW m8 to unlock bootloader ..
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Thanks for clearing that up. Been a while for me. Just got my M8 and last time I had to root was on my DNA when VZ still let us unlock the bootloader.
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etracyirl said:
Thanks for clearing that up. Been a while for me. Just got my M8 and last time I had to root was on my DNA when VZ still let us unlock the bootloader.
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No problem...if you can't get firewater to work yourself. I would gladly pay sunshine.
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[Q] Root Flash then Revert Without a PC?

Just wanted to know if its possible to root (towel root) flash custom recovery and custom roms and then if I decide to later revert totally back to stock unrooted nexus without a PC. Ive attempted to read up on this but I'm a little confused that ill need to use SDK and ADB which i can't have access to at the moment or have the skills to use.
I've seen apps on google play to unlock boot loader once towel rooted but I'm just unsure if i can revert totally back to an unrooted nexus 5 with original recovery, without a pc as I'm using an iMac and having really unreliability with it :/
Id greatly appreciate any help :good:

cameracartwright said:
Just wanted to know if its possible to root (towel root) flash custom recovery and custom roms and then if I decide to later revert totally back to stock unrooted nexus without a PC. Ive attempted to read up on this but I'm a little confused that ill need to use SDK and ADB which i can't have access to at the moment or have the skills to use.
I've seen apps on google play to unlock boot loader once towel rooted but I'm just unsure if i can revert totally back to an unrooted nexus 5 with original recovery, without a pc as I'm using an iMac and having really unreliability with it :/
Id greatly appreciate any help :good:
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You may need a computer to return to stock but otherwise you shouldn't need a pc
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Could I not back up the stock ROM using twrp and then after using custom ROMs flash it back (stock) and flash stock recovery and in root and relock boot loader using super su and boot loader apk?
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cameracartwright said:
Could I not back up the stock ROM using twrp and then after using custom ROMs flash it back (stock) and flash stock recovery and in root and relock boot loader using super su and boot loader apk?
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Yes. If u can find all the right files to do that
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NBreunig3 said:
Yes. If u can find all the right files to do that
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think there on xda somewhere?

cameracartwright said:
think there on xda somewhere?
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Yes. What phone and carrier are you using?
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Nexus 5 on EE
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cameracartwright said:
Nexus 5 on EE
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EE?
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Nexus 5 on EE
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The nexus devices are the easiest devices to get back to stock because Google supplies the stock images
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Yes EE it was the first 4g carrier in UK used to be T-Mobile and orange
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But I can only flash the images from Google using adb right?
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cameracartwright said:
But I can only flash the images from Google using adb right?
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Not sure. I am not familiar with nexus devices
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This is a nexus thread?
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There are a couple different options.
I'm not sure if flashify requires a unlocked bootloader. Root, flash custom recovery with flashify, make a backup. When you are done either restore backup or if stock already use flashify to flash stock recovery, delete root apps, unroot via supersu.
Boot unlocker I have heard will work to lock and unlock boot loader but I'm not sure about resetting the tamper flag.
Using fastboot and adb is always going to be the surest and safest way to root etc. Unless you are going to be submitting your phone for RMA there should be no reason to unroot. You can always flash a stock rooted ROM and just leave it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47025283
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47156064
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Steps are;
-Download boot unlocker fr on play
-Download flashify from play (just in case)
-Download vomers stock ROM (number 6 in resources section in the link in my signature)
-Download stock recovery (number 7 in resources section in the link in my signature)
Firstly, flash the recovery zip via your current recovery and reboot
Then, reset The tamper flag and lock the boot loader
Finally, open SuperSU and use the full indoor option to remove Root
Good as new.
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Proper upgrade path

Sorry for the noobish question that I should know, but it's been a while since I've used an HD.
I picked up a used HD on 9.18.94. Can I simply sideload 183.46.10 and run the bootloader unlock? My first goal is the bootloader then I can flash root and unlock the radios so my wife can use it on ATT
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Yep, just upgrade straight to .10, unlock, root, and you'll be good.
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Awesome, thanks
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When I try to update from external storage it stays install /sdcard and reboots into recovery and stays on 4.1 do I need to load another is in between?
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Borderpatrol1987 said:
When I try to update from external storage it stays install /sdcard and reboots into recovery and stays on 4.1 do I need to load another is in between?
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just use this, less hassles.

What are you trying to flash? The FXZ needs to be flashed in RSD.
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RikRong said:
What are you trying to flash? The FXZ needs to be flashed in RSD.
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I was trying to flash what I thought was the 4.4.2 ota. I accidentally clicked software update, and lo and behold it was the right os.
Now I'm rooted and bl unlocked. Onto unlocking the radios for att
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Motorola wont let me unlock my boot loader please help!

So I am trying to unlock my boot loader on my moto g here and every time I input my string on the website it tells me that my device is not eligible can some one please help me I'd appreciate it and would be willing to give a donation thanks!
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androidreviewguy said:
So I am trying to unlock my boot loader on my moto g here and every time I input my string on the website it tells me that my device is not eligible can some one please help me I'd appreciate it and would be willing to give a donation thanks!
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Your device is not eligible for bootloader unlocking.
> https://forums.motorola.com/posts/132580d3df

ATTACK said:
Your device is not eligible for bootloader unlocking.
> https://forums.motorola.com/posts/132580d3df
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Wow so I can't flash a custom ROM onto this device?
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androidreviewguy said:
Wow so I can't flash a custom ROM onto this device?
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Nope. Your bootloader is locked.

androidreviewguy said:
So I am trying to unlock my boot loader on my moto g here and every time I input my string on the website it tells me that my device is not eligible can some one please help me I'd appreciate it and would be willing to give a donation thanks!
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Same with me i have the cricket one maybe there will be an exploit soon for 4.4.4 so im just waiting

gecko702 said:
Same with me i have the cricket one maybe there will be an exploit soon for 4.4.4 so im just waiting
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That's what I got today to that's some ****.
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ATTACK said:
Nope. Your bootloader is locked.
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Crazy .
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gecko702 said:
Same with me i have the cricket one maybe there will be an exploit soon for 4.4.4 so im just waiting
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Can we root it?
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androidreviewguy said:
Can we root it?
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No unless the bootloader is unlocked and flash a custom recovery then flash superSU so hopefully someone will find a way i mean this is a good phone and cyanogemmod 12 came out for this phone i really want CM on mine

gecko702 said:
No unless the bootloader is unlocked and flash a custom recovery then flash superSU so hopefully someone will find a way i mean this is a good phone and cyanogemmod 12 came out for this phone i really want CM on mine
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Ya its not a bad phone at all think I might just buy the new Motorola g off Motorola.com the bootloaders are unlockable on them and there bigger and only 179.99
Is it just something with 4.4.4 or can we go back to like 4.3 or 4.2.2 or whatever it first came with and then unlock the boot loader that way?
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androidreviewguy said:
Ya its not a bad phone at all think I might just buy the new Motorola g off Motorola.com the bootloaders are unlockable on them and there bigger and only 179.99
Is it just something with 4.4.4 or can we go back to like 4.3 or 4.2.2 or whatever it first came with and then unlock the boot loader that way?
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Its something about att/cricket not allowing bootloaders to unlock because of custom roms and rooting for tethering wifi on em but yeah ill stick with this phone for a while and buy the new G

[Q] Bootloader Question

Hello, im new in G pro 2, and have been read on XDA for week ago, i have open many thread and read it about installation procedure of some rom, but i dont find it that if the flashing required unlock bootloader first or just need to root the phone, so i decided to ask some question
1.) Do i need unlock bootloader to flash some rom? Like 5.0.x rom?
2.) Is root too have unlock my bootloader first?
Thank you so much for the answer
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vy69gazerock said:
Hello, im new in G pro 2, and have been read on XDA for week ago, i have open many thread and read it about installation procedure of some rom, but i dont find it that if the flashing required unlock bootloader first or just need to root the phone, so i decided to ask some question
1.) Do i need unlock bootloader to flash some rom? Like 5.0.x rom?
2.) Is root too have unlock my bootloader first?
Thank you so much for the answer
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You can not unlock the bootloader,but you can root with towelroot or Stumproot.
You can Flash this Recovery
This Recovery works,but you can not save a Backup to External SD,only Internal Memory and Restore not working for me.

To flash a custom rom just need to root?
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vy69gazerock said:
To flash a custom rom just need to root?
Thank you so much for the answer
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Almost there, Yes that is correct and after rooting your device install the recovery linked By letschky above so you can flash the rom

bjscott55 said:
Almost there, Yes that is correct and after rooting your device install the recovery linked By letschky above so you can flash the rom
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Thank you so much for the answer
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