Dear XDA, for the love of all that is sane, could a format be designed that would allow for creation of a "Read Only" rom development threads which would spawn a read/write q&a thread elsewhere by default where users could post as is now. The format would allow only the developer and developer selected users to add posts originating from q&a thread that contained important info, fixes, workarounds etc. discovered by users.
I am a firm believer in reading....each time I log on I pick up at (first unread) in the threads I participate in and plow through it post by post. But the truth is that the threads are packed with useless posts that while fun to read at times stray away from anything beneficial or new and mixed up in that are very informative posts ......such as "once this rom is more stable it'll be my daily Flashed back to blah-blah rom." And that's in threads where no one else has that issue and it is a daily. Self promotion, rom promotions, other rom promotions, thanks promotions, flaming, naming, laming, tagging, bragging, one question....9 identical answers. You get my point, all the relevant info in most threads could be summed up around 5 pages max perhaps. Imagine rom threads that ONLY had a few pages of everything known about the rom like how to install, what features now and coming, troubleshooting and fixes, requirements, issues etc.
At the least if mods could allow the dev and/or dev helpers access to all posts in say first 2 or so pages of threads which usually comprise of "First", and the other regular break in lines, so these posts could be repopulated with the above mentioned scenario of information maybe that could be just as useful. Bottom line it is really hard these days to actually acquire info if you jump into a new rom thread which has been active for some time, and if you fail to use the right keyword in a search-box that function can be less than helpful.
The first suggestion imo would further highlight the brilliance and hard work of all that contribute to XDA in whatever means they do while keeping the chat community alive and healthy too. Great interactions happen here and they should as do great accomplishments, and miraculous workarounds/fixes what better way to highlight this than giving all of it a place upfront?! The second suggestion too would help highlight these same achievements.
Thanks for reading and any considerations given.
Louforgiveno
Perfectly said and thank you Lou your contributions as well.
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Perfectly said and thank you Lou your contributions as well.
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Thanks much to you sir !
sorry...i'm out of thanks for the day
Totally agree!!
It actually already exists, the OP has to set it up when he's creating his thread. If you notice some rom threads in development every time you post the Last post always has an automated post which says this has a Q&A thread dedicated for questions. Well when that happens questions are directed to the Q&A thread instead of the development thread.
The problem is some of the developers are not developed enough to turn these features on.
Have a great day!
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Thanks for reading and any considerations given.
Louforgiveno
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I saw it the first time by Xposed....
but I am sure that this is a old thingy here.
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sorry...i'm out of thanks for the day
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BTW how many thanks can i give on a day??
Sounds good to me....thanks!
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how many thanks can i give on a day??
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You can give 8 thanks per full day (24 hours).
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You can give 8 thanks per full day (24 hours).
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Thanks
(My first Thanks for today! )
Sounds good! TLR
Sorry, I am not considering it. Hope it doesn't break your heart.
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Sorry, I am not considering it. Hope it doesn't break your heart.
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Oh yes I'm destroyed
Related
Could you please either add Nitros' and vjgrace's ROMs to the sticked theads at the top, or unsticky Andot's and Phil's?
Or alternatively, make a sticky thread for people to advertise their ROMs. Maybe the cooks can PM you the details of their builds and links to their threads for you to add posts to a mod-postable only thread so that it doesn't become cluttered, and questions and support for the various ROMs will take place only in their own threads...
Please understand, Andot's and Phil's efforts are excellent and well-respected but have somewhat lapsed in development and support and are no longer the most current or stable builds.
Yet the stickiness of their threads lends to newcomers jumping directly to those ROMs and consequently asking for help with issues other ROM cookers have already resolved...
Sticky Opinion...
I think we ought to replace the three stickies listed with one ROM MetaSticky that has links to the current stuck threads as well as the other ROM builds and some high level summaries on each build such as...
Who built it
When it was first released
When it was last updated
A link to the current thread
I think this would save a lot of questions. If someone wanted to be really creative they could write a summary of features or add a matrix with a feature comparison or maybe a poll for who is using that build.
Opinions?
I agree with unsticking the current two ROM stickies. The two authors haven't been around for a while, and the ROMs in the stickies haven't been updated in months. When, and if, Phil is back with a new ROM, that can go back up.
I agree. The two current roms that are 'sticked' are very outdated. The more recent roms should be there.
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I think we ought to replace the three stickies listed with one ROM MetaSticky that has links to the current stuck threads as well as the other ROM builds and some high level summaries on each build such as...
Who built it
When it was first released
When it was last updated
A link to the current thread
I think this would save a lot of questions. If someone wanted to be really creative they could write a summary of features or add a matrix with a feature comparison or maybe a poll for who is using that build.
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I thought that's what I was trying to say...b
Basically, each post of the thread would have the contents of the first post of the ROM's thread; but not the download link, just the features and version numbers...
I also think a nice ROM posting convention would be for the poster/cook to reserve the second post of the thread (just fill it with useless text or something) for a Changes Log.
It's nice to see that the original info updated, but many posts show up asking if x is still there or where y went...
But then again, it begins to sound like work.. doesn't it?
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I thought that's what I was trying to say...b
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Pretty much. I wrote the same thing before reading your post so I just moved my post underneath yours.
Are any of the moderators even paying attention here? Sounds like a bunch of us talking among ourselves...
I've stickied the 3 recent roms
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Pretty much. I wrote the same thing before reading your post so I just moved my post underneath yours.
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OK good. I was just worried that I wasn't understandable. Again.
meschle said:
I've stickied the 3 recent roms
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Yay! Squeeky wheel for teh win!!!!1!!!one
meschle said:
I've stickied the 3 recent roms
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Alright! Someone was paying attention!
Thanks to all the great minds here! I now have a rooted Captivate running Continuum v4 and love it. I will be donating to Icezar very soon. Took me a little while to figure it out being my first time trying to do anything like this to a phone but after reading a bit I got it.
Thanks so much for the great work and help articles!
We all love the devs and helpful community, but I think your thanks belong in the Continuum thread, not a new one...
Maybe
Thanks for the hint. I'm fairly new and all but I have figured out quickly enough that I can't post in a development forum until I've made 10 posts. Not to mention this was thanks to everyone that helped with articles in the Captivate area.
But I'll keep your suggestion in mind. lol
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We all love the devs and helpful community, but I think your thanks belong in the Continuum thread, not a new one...
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Thanks for the hint. I'm fairly new and all but I have figured out quickly enough that I can't post in a development forum until I've made 10 posts. Not to mention this was thanks to everyone that helped with articles in the Captivate area.
But I'll keep your suggestion in mind. lol
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Don't mind him. Half the users on this forum are self proclaimed mini mods.
Yes, well, new members should learn when to post and where to post it. Now he/she knows. And if someone created a thread everytime they wanted to thank people, the Captivate forums would explode.
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I can't post in a development forum until I've made 10 posts.
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Again
See above post.
See profile and you shall be able to figure out if whether he/she is appropriate.
Now you know and thanks for the welcome!
Thanks White, no biggie. lol
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Yes, well, new members should learn when to post and where to post it. Now he/she knows. And if someone created a thread everytime they wanted to thank people, the Captivate forums would explode.
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Yes, I can see that they can't post in dev forums, but is it really that hard to wait it out to be able to post there? 10 is nothing.
And as far I can tell, your profile doesn't specify gender.
Oh, and welcome to the forums, and happy flashing.
Ok, so I was a little impatient. lol
Thought I uploaded a couple of pics on there. hmmm
Thanks!
Hang in there on post count. Before you know it, your a senior member with 2 or 3 hundred posts.
Thanks haley!
We shall see. lol I work on computers for a living so the phone thing is foreign to me at this point but I'm learning fairly quick.
Continuum v5
While this being my 1st post and therefore cannont post in the developer forum. I wanted to thank cezar for his work on Continuum v5(Conf.# 5FV14942N3071105A) and rack up at least one post towards my required 10
Hi,
To post in the forums, where I can ask for and give help, I need to have posted at least 10 times. I cannot even thank TRusselo who wrote the Newbie guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1041206
I could consider this one of the 10, but this is just creating a mess in the CMS for this site.
Or is there a forum where I can do a quick post 10 times, which a moderator will purge monthly
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It's to weed out helpful people.
If they're helpful, they leave before they get 10 posts.
I could consider this two of the 10, but this is just creating a mess in the CMS for this site.
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It's to weed out helpful people.
If they're helpful, they leave before they get 10 posts.
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Hey, you have 93 posts. And you are still being helpful!
Wow, I posted before I think, but I dont log in often
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Wow, I posted before I think, but I dont log in often
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And yet, here we are.
"Of all the threads in all the forums of the world, you had to walk into mine" -- Casablanca
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OK, I'll bite. Thanks for the opportunity to boost my post count so I too can be helpful someday.
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Once I have ten, everything should be great.
Me too, waiting for 10...
I've been here years, and I still haven't made 10
How do you even change the time on this?
It says 1-29pm, its 10-25pm right now in california
Setting your Timezone
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How do you even change the time on this?
It says 1-29pm, its 10-25pm right now in california
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Aah, your timezone is set wrongly. XDA does not yet know which timezone you are in.
At the top of this page, to the left of "Welcome squallrblade", click on User CP.
On the left, select "Edit options", under "Settings and Options". Halfway down, set your timezone.
Why you are 4 mins off, I have no idea. Either the server or your wall clock is off.
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Sweet, thank you
this rule is really disturbing...
Most of my questions are related to AmericanAndroid, but I can't post them there... until I reach the 10 posts limit... Maybe we can use this thread to upgrade our posts limit...
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How do you even change the time on this?
It says 1-29pm, its 10-25pm right now in california
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Checked, server time is set correctly. Please check your time zone.
Spam here, please
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Most of my questions are related to AmericanAndroid, but I can't post them there... until I reach the 10 posts limit... Maybe we can use this thread to upgrade our posts limit...
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Yes, and that way, the thread can be deleted without a thought later
If we are going to do that, might as well as use it as a sandbox, to learn formatting, etc.
Whos helpful? Yeah. It's annoying. I need a few more myself.
I'm such a forum geek too. If you added up my posts from everywhere I post it's over 25,000 and they started in the 1990's.
I hit the magic 10 and still cant post in the Litening Rom 2.2 forum?
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Whos helpful? Yeah. It's annoying. I need a few more myself.
I'm such a forum geek too. If you added up my posts from everywhere I post it's over 25,000 and they started in the 1990's.
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Oh dear. I just reviewed a forum I had been a member of for about 2 and a half years and I racked up around 14000 posts.
bacause you are n00b. just like the vid in reg page. same same like me here. need gaining post
and then you will get
1. To prevent spam to the forums, new users must wait five minutes between posts. All new user accounts will be verified by moderators before this restriction is removed.
9 post means 9 times 5 equal 45min more or less
congrats
I've been a member of xda-dev since 2006 but have made only a few posts.
I'm interested in becoming more active and contributing as a developer, but I have some pretty strict posting restrictions because I'm a "new" user. (Post timing, edit timing, no links, etc)
Would it be possible to have these restrictions removed based on that fact that I've been a member for 6 years without incident?
Thanks,
tekkdrone
i don't think time on this board has to do with anything. you've been a member for 6 years yet only have 4 counted posts, which means you probably havent contributed much[not dissing you] to have the initial restrictions lifted
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i don't think time on this board has to do with anything. you've been a member for 6 years yet only have 4 counted posts, which means you probably havent contributed much[not dissing you] to have the initial restrictions lifted
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hmmmmm
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hmmmmm
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I caught that too. But I'm the noob, so maybe I'm counting posts wrong. But if I have to post over 300 posts to lift my "10 post" restriction, I'll never be able to post in the non-general forums.
Yeah, I also find the restrictions a little annoying. I've been working with Android for a few years, but I never joined up here. Now that I have, I can't be seen as a developer until I've made a certain amount of posts. Not the end of the world, but still not a very good idea considering that anyone can easily get around this.
Agreed.
Yesterday, I was forced to PM a ROM developer regarding a serious issue since I wasn't able to post in the thread.
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hmmmmm
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Yeah, I also find the restrictions a little annoying. I've been working with Android for a few years, but I never joined up here. Now that I have, I can't be seen as a developer until I've made a certain amount of posts. Not the end of the world, but still not a very good idea considering that anyone can easily get around this.
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Not that I fall into this category or anything, but what is the post count to post as a developer?
This is the first forum I've been on with these kinds of restrictions. I find it odd.
The post count restriction is for those users that only join to spam the development threads with "MY CAMERA DOESN'T WORK. WHY DOESN'T IT WORK?!!?!!!!!1"
If you want the restrictions lifted, just follow a thread and join the conversation.
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That seems ok I guess. I wasn't aware of this either, I am following the d3 kexec and can't post, it made me a bit bummed. Im not going to lie...
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Please have a look here: Postcount limit in developmental fora
I can understand the frustration this might bringt to some of you - but as said in the thread above, there's no better alternative.
If you have one, bring it out.
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Please have a look here: Postcount limit in developmental fora
I can understand the frustration this might bringt to some of you - but as said in the thread above, there's no better alternative.
If you have one, bring it out.
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restrictions do not make sense because I tasted such a Rom and see problems in it and I can tell the developer, who might not have noticed, but good forums are rules and should be respected
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Agreed.
Yesterday, I was forced to PM a ROM developer regarding a serious issue since I wasn't able to post in the thread.
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I know that feeling. Every time I got a real problem, then I found that I'm under the posts count restriction. But can't deny this is effective to prevent thread form spamming.
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restrictions do not make sense because I tasted such a Rom and see problems in it and I can tell the developer, who might not have noticed, but good forums are rules and should be respected
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The restrictions make sense precisely because of that reason. The two posts you have made prior to this one are;-
Good morning, I installed makious v Rom. 11.1 for my HTC evo 3D and calendar reminders are sometimes not
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Good morning, I installed the evolver Rom 2.1 for my HTC evo 3D and occasionally lost wifi signal and also the calendar reminders are sometimes not.
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Neither of those comments will be remotely useful to a developer or to a development thread.
If you were posting something along the lines of
I have recently installed your ROM v3.1 and have encountered a problem with synchronizing my calendar if I am running application 'Z'. I have rolled back to v3.0 and this problem didn't exist. I have also tried various other ICS ROMs and don't get the same problem.
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and you had searched the thread fully to ensure that nobody else had reported the problem and it wasn't listed in the 'Known Issues' at the start of the thread ...
... then the post might be worthwhile making.
I am a regular on the HTC Desire S forums - and all we seem to get at the moment are newbies asking the same
why doesn't the camera work?
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Why can't I use Wi-Fi Tether
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and so on - problems that are well known to exist in every ICS-based ROM on our platform.
These sort of questions just cause anger and waste time - both for the devs who are trying to do a fantastic job for free and the people who actually want to join in and have the capability to help the devs with testing and troubleshooting.
I hope that you understand a bit clearer now. I, personally, don't think the 10 post limit is enough. I don't believe any XDA member should be able to post into the dev threads unless they have been approved by at least one dev - based on previous posts, helping other users and general attitude.
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Aaaand stuff like these.
SimonTS said:
The restrictions make sense precisely because of that reason. The two posts you have made prior to this one are;-
Neither of those comments will be remotely useful to a developer or to a development thread.
If you were posting something along the lines of
and you had searched the thread fully to ensure that nobody else had reported the problem and it wasn't listed in the 'Known Issues' at the start of the thread ...
... then the post might be worthwhile making.
I am a regular on the HTC Desire S forums - and all we seem to get at the moment are newbies asking the same
and so on - problems that are well known to exist in every ICS-based ROM on our platform.
These sort of questions just cause anger and waste time - both for the devs who are trying to do a fantastic job for free and the people who actually want to join in and have the capability to help the devs with testing and troubleshooting.
I hope that you understand a bit clearer now. I, personally, don't think the 10 post limit is enough. I don't believe any XDA member should be able to post into the dev threads unless they have been approved by at least one dev - based on previous posts, helping other users and general attitude.
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You're absolutely right, and I apologize for the way I have written the comments, what happens is you get into the threads of the developers and people write what I wrote, and I've more or less copied. It's a very good forum and to continue so, and I apologize if I offended anyone has.
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You're absolutely right, and I apologize for the way I have written the comments, what happens is you get into the threads of the developers and people write what I wrote, and I've more or less copied. It's a very good forum and to continue so, and I apologize if I offended anyone has.
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No apology required mate - at least you understand now. I hope that you spend a long time with the community and gain half as much as I have done from it.
simply join conversations and contribute, that's all there is to it
don't fight the system, work with it :angel:
Tread Closed. I would recommend PMing a senior mod directly about this matter.
Is there any chance to get pass the 10 posts limit and speak in developers forum? I go here often, but my last problem was three years ago and resolved in two replies. I don't remember that limit was in effect back then
Do I really need to write another 7 not usefull posts to get one simple answer in developer forum?
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Is there any chance to get pass the 10 posts limit and speak in developers forum? I go here often, but my last problem was three years ago and resolved in two replies. I don't remember that limit was in effect back then
Do I really need to write another 7 not usefull posts to get one simple answer in developer forum?
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No you need to write 7 useful posts, try helping people in the QandA section etc.
This is how it is, there a very good reasons behind these rules and this thread will likely be closed so just move on and help others.
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No you need to write 7 useful posts, try helping people in the QandA section etc.
This is how it is, there a very good reasons behind these rules and this thread will likely be closed so just move on and help others.
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Okay, just let me think about this for a while... You are suggesting that a noob that has a problem should first solve some other problems and then he is allowed to solve his own problem?
Hm, since when is XDA only for the selected?
I have to agree with topic-starter.
I read much info before I even registered. I rooted my phone with the various threads, but then you have a problem/bug, and you can't address it in the dev-thread.
If some-one asks why there is a 10post limit, everybody says, help other people in the q&A topic.
As a very beginner in rooting/change rom's, you just can't help other people with much more complicated questions.
I'm on many forums, and usually such rule only results in more un-usefull spamming.
I don't have a huge problem with that. But I had a problem with a ROM, and instead of just asking it in the dev-section, I had to search a couple of hours in many threads to find a solution.
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Okay, just let me think about this for a while... You are suggesting that a noob that has a problem should first solve some other problems and then he is allowed to solve his own problem?
Hm, since when is XDA only for the selected?
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I have to agree with topic-starter.
I read much info before I even registered. I rooted my phone with the various threads, but then you have a problem/bug, and you can't address it in the dev-thread.
If some-one asks why there is a 10post limit, everybody says, help other people in the q&A topic.
As a very beginner in rooting/change rom's, you just can't help other people with much more complicated questions.
I'm on many forums, and usually such rule only results in more un-usefull spamming.
I don't have a huge problem with that. But I had a problem with a ROM, and instead of just asking it in the dev-section, I had to search a couple of hours in many threads to find a solution.
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The key there is that you found the answer yourself after searching for a couple of hours. That is how people learn - it's how I learnt how to root, S-Off etc my HTC DS - by reading and trying to understand.
The Dev section is NOT the place for questions. It is NOT the place for questions. It is NOT the place for questions. Get the idea? The Dev section is for Development - genuine bug reporting and discussion by the guys who develop and test the ROMs.
I don't think 10 posts is enough. I personally feel that the Dev section should be by invite only. Once somebody has proved that they are able to abide by the rules of XDA and contribute in a meaningful manner then the Devs can invite them to join if they feel so inclined.
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Okay, just let me think about this for a while... You are suggesting that a noob that has a problem should first solve some other problems and then he is allowed to solve his own problem?
Hm, since when is XDA only for the selected?
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Well two things here, no If you have a problem you need solving you post it in the Q&A section in the first place..as this is where questions go Development threads are for development.
And XDA is and always has been about the developers, about developers sharing there work.
Yes, great... So developers have time to test other developers work? I would say that all the wannabe testers have hard time to feedback developers. They use emails. Developers say: use forum, it's great. And the usual answer is: I'm not over the limit yet.
I flash often, I test often. I find bugs often. I read ALOT. And when I find something no one has found yet.... I have to wait until an "experienced noob" (you don't really think number of posts indicate how experienced a guy is...) will write a bug report.
I got tired of waiting today and tried to step ahead but no... I have to make more comments to prove I'm worthy to speak with the DEV's... I'm no flamer and don't take this post like that but...
Posting a question in Q&A and hoping that one guy who might have my solution will answer... Maybe PM him and when he answers I will keep the solution to myself. Nah, too simple... XDA is for developers and developers always rely on people who test their night builds. Don't keep DEV's alone up there in the Ivory tower :angel:
PS: I would never dare to ask a question that was already answered here...
Yeah whats up with that
I have to have ten post before i can post my issue on the rom i downloaded that kinda bricked my phone. baha... i am swolt.. and to top it off i have to wait 5 minutes between post i guess it sucks to be a new user; but i am glad to be a part of the XDA forum team since i have been flashing every week for the past year or so... i joined after i ran into a problem go figure...
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Yes, great... So developers have time to test other developers work? I would say that all the wannabe testers have hard time to feedback developers. They use emails. Developers say: use forum, it's great. And the usual answer is: I'm not over the limit yet.
I flash often, I test often. I find bugs often. I read ALOT. And when I find something no one has found yet.... I have to wait until an "experienced noob" (you don't really think number of posts indicate how experienced a guy is...) will write a bug report.
I got tired of waiting today and tried to step ahead but no... I have to make more comments to prove I'm worthy to speak with the DEV's... I'm no flamer and don't take this post like that but...
Posting a question in Q&A and hoping that one guy who might have my solution will answer... Maybe PM him and when he answers I will keep the solution to myself. Nah, too simple... XDA is for developers and developers always rely on people who test their night builds. Don't keep DEV's alone up there in the Ivory tower :angel:
PS: I would never dare to ask a question that was already answered here...
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I have to have ten post before i can post my issue on the rom i downloaded that kinda bricked my phone. baha... i am swolt.. and to top it off i have to wait 5 minutes between post i guess it sucks to be a new user; but i am glad to be a part of the XDA forum team since i have been flashing every week for the past year or so... i joined after i ran into a problem go figure...
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Its a case of thats just how it is, many devs have started threads in the general subsections for talking about the ROMs to reduce the issue.
The big reason for the limit is simple, with out it the dev section gets flooded with question threads, and general chit chat or basic questions which have been answered a million times end up in dev threads which should be kept clean for real feedback to been seen by the devs.
I know it sucks but it works, 10 posts is nothing, you will find if you look across the forum there will be plenty of threads you can give input to (For example there are loads of "which do you like more" type threads) which require no technical skill. You will very quickly get past the ten posts and move on
I know it sucks but it works, 10 posts is nothing, you will find if you look across the forum there will be plenty of threads you can give input to (For example there are loads of "which do you like more" type threads) which require no technical skill. You will very quickly get past the ten posts and move on[/QUOTE]
Yeah; I am well on my way. 3 down 7 to go .
I know I know, just a long day at work..
Close it please.
Wrong section, this issue has been discussed to no end, and the rule isn't going anywhere. Thread closed.
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