My Nexus player has been struck with the dreaded Soap Opera Effect. Essentially it's a motion blur type effect that affects streaming video. Netflix, Plex, etc.
This has been happening since updating to v5.1. Anyone else having this issue? Any ideas on how to fix it?
This video will give you an idea. To see the effect, I had to run at 720p 60fps or higher.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=882c25af2hM
DVDWSN said:
My Nexus player has been struck with the dreaded Soap Opera Effect. Essentially it's a motion blur type effect that affects streaming video. Netflix, Plex, etc.
This has been happening since updating to v5.1. Anyone else having this issue? Any ideas on how to fix it?
This video will give you an idea. To see the effect, I had to run at 720p 60fps or higher.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=882c25af2hM
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Isn't 60fps going to do that every time? Go back to 24fps and enjoy...
Maybe I'm confused...
Yeah sorry, I didn't explain clearly.
On the Nexus player we're not watching 60fps content. Just regular 24 or 30 or whatever.
I posted the youtube video so that you might see an example of what we're seeing on our TV. When watching that example video, I was only able to see the motion blur when I was watching it at 60 fps.
If you're getting any sort of frame-interpolation on video playback it is more likely that it is being done by your TV (if you have a 120Hz+ television) then the Nexus Player itself, because as far as I know the player does not have the software or hardware capabilities to do so and even if it did it wouldn't showup as a bug it would have to be enabled with some sort of third-party hack or application.
tl;dr: if you're seeing frame-interpolation in your videos, check your TVs settings and ensure "Smooth Motion" or "True Motion" or anything with that sort of name is disabled.
We're looking into that. It's an old POS TV that does 1080p, and not much else. We looked through the menu's and online, but found nothing about motion or any sort of video processing.
I'm going to test the Nexus Player with another TV and see what happens.
can confirm
It's not the TV can confirm after the update the nexus player is experiencing soap opera effect. are there settings to disable the effects?
The same thing is happening to me since the Android 5.1 update on my Nexus Player, but only under certain circumstances. The tv it is attached to is 1080p 60hz.
If i cast from plex to the Nexus Player, I get the soap opera effect, however if I use the plex app on the Nexus Player itself, I do not get the effect. Its infuriating. Does anyone know what is causing this or how to fix it?
LostSol said:
The same thing is happening to me since the Android 5.1 update on my Nexus Player, but only under certain circumstances. The tv it is attached to is 1080p 60hz.
If i cast from plex to the Nexus Player, I get the soap opera effect, however if I use the plex app on the Nexus Player itself, I do not get the effect. Its infuriating. Does anyone know what is causing this or how to fix it?
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I have the exact same issue. And my TV is an old Sharp 60hz which has none of that Motion/Flow technology. It only happens when I cast. No issue if I use the app. I am not sure I like this effect.
Ok....well this brings up my question....
I installed showbox via air share. ...I was seeing how well it works (testing it) it I notice on the whole horizontal bottom...2inch thick it's black/white. .........all of the movie is colored but the 2inch thick whole bottom is b/w. ....I also notice after 25 to 30 min into the movie it buffed and went to the beginning of movie (played on movie) haven't tried a different movie yet
It seems the soap opera effect only happens with apps that use the native android media player (i.e. Showbox, Starz Play, Encore Play) and it is in fact, VERY ANNOYING. I know Chainfire has a tweak that allows you to change the Hz for playback, but I haven't tried it yet.
i actually would like soap opera effect on my android tv box (mk808b plus)..any idea how the nexus player does it?
yeahman45 said:
i actually would like soap opera effect on my android tv box (mk808b plus)..any idea how the nexus player does it?
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I'm also keen on trying to port it to my device, I did some digging and found the SDK responsible for it, sadly it's intel, so unless it can be ported to some other system it's essentially useless to us.
It seems to rely on some sort of ISV lib, probably standing for Intel Smart Video, so I presume it'll be a lot of work bringing it to other devices.
https://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/frame-rate-conversion-frc-in-intel-media-sdk
https://android.googlesource.com/device/asus/fugu/+/master/video_isv_profile.xml
http://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/c/96342/3/device.mk
https://android.googlesource.com/pl...n/utils/+/ce70dcd/ISV/profile/isv_profile.cpp
Pleaaase i would love video interpolation on my Nexus 6p!!!!
That is the only reason i prefer watching stuff on my pc(with SVP interpolation) even though my nexus AMOLED is awesome(on srgb of course)
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So ive noticed that there is a new (maybe old) feature on YouTube when i access from my PC for watching vids in high(er) quality...since it is YouTube that is offering this option does anyone know if we will be able to watch Vids in higher quality from our G1's??? they are still very choppy (opinion)
-MADE SOME "PROGRESS" OR DISCOVERY IN POST 10 BELOW
not sure if you are aware of this, but youtube plays at a higher resolution if you are connected via wifi vs 3g/edge.
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not sure if you are aware of this, but youtube plays at a higher resolution if you are connected via wifi vs 3g/edge.
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ya ive tried and noticed a slight difference but wifi connection is not always available to me...
if you've only noticed a slight difference, then the video you are watching was low quality before it even made it to youtube
The higher quality option within the standard Youtube site utilizes h.264 with AAC.
As far as I know the G1 uses only the old standard .FLV through its built-in player when using WIFI.
When running on EDGE or 3g the G1 Youtube player player connects to the mobile .3gp stream.
The iPhone on the other hand uses the h.264 stream when wifi is connected, or the .3gp stream when in EDGE or 3G coverage (although downloading of the higher quality stream is available through the device with MXtube.
I own the two devices and will be doing a few comparison videos in a week or so. It is interesting that no reviewer has commented on the fact (or what I believe to be a fact) that the Youtube viewer on the iPhone is a lot nicer to use and watch on the whole, despite Google owning Youtube. Really they should have offered the best mobile Youtube experience on the G1.
One GOOD point about the use of .FLV streams is that they load a LOT faster. The same stream in h.264 on my iPhone can take many seconds to buffer - even with my 10mbps broadband connection - where the same clip on the G1 buffers almost instantaneously. I suspect that Youtube throttles their h.264 streams (for reasons best known to themselves) since I have no problem streaming the BBC's lovely h.264 iPlayer streams.
I suspect it is HTC who actually made the Youtube app, and that it will be improved, or even replaced with the Cupcake release.
Another problem which is slightly off topic and will NOT be improved with updates is that the G1's loudspeaker is vastly inferior to the iPhone 3G's (though much better than the pathetic iPhone 2G speaker).
Sound quality for me is very important when I'm watching videos on my device, and as I've swapped and changed between my G1 and iPhone over the past couple of weeks I've found the speaker quality of my G1 to be a source of great irritation being as it is just so tinny. and annoyingly positioned. Despite being only monaural the iPhone 3G's speaker is one of the best out there.
Me and my friend did a comparison, he has iphone and i have g1 obviously. Both of us are in 3g are and his quality blows g1 away. I agree youtube videos looks pretty horrible on g1 with or without 3g. Speaker is definately behind in the iphone wars also. I have noticed that i pick the videos up much faster than iphone but i would wait for quality. Alot of youtube videos are low quality video's however.
maybe someone can impliment a "force &fmt=18 string" at the end of every youtube video link that gets played to force the quality to be good. but of course, you would have to wait for it to load too, so they should make it an option when you press the "menu" button, maybe they could do something in the next custom firmware for root users.
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maybe someone can impliment a "force &fmt=18 string" at the end of every youtube video link that gets played to force the quality to be good. but of course, you would have to wait for it to load too, so they should make it an option when you press the "menu" button, maybe they could do something in the next custom firmware for root users.
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thts actually a great idea as this code provides excellent resolution on PC's, and i wouldnt mind waiting as stated above i would rather have higher quality...
Has anyone compared the video quality when launching videos from the youtube.com website instead of searching for them with the youtube app? I believe the app normally searches m.youtube.com which has videos that are reencoded with a lower quality.
WOOOOO
so keeping in mind the "&fmt=18" code at the end of the actual vid URL i tried this...
1) go to the actual website www.youtube.com (not app)
2) search/click on any vid, it will ask you if you want to use the "youtube app" or "browser", Click browser
3)once the page opens you will see the flashplayer error, hit the menu button and "go to url" add the code "&fmt=18" to the end of the url then copy
4)go to www.keepvid.com and paste in the blue box then click download
5)scroll down and you will see 2 options to download make sure u click the mp4 high quality link...(not the flv link)
6)WAHHLAAAHH enjoy looks 5times better even though takes 5 times longer lol hope this is worth it for some of you
nice find. you can also use the fmt=22 addition to get HD videos from youtube.
on a side note, i was trying to find an easier way to do this and found that if you look it up in the application, you can just use Menu/share to send it to yourself. before you send it, you can add the URL extension of choice and when you get the email and click on it, it will ask youtube or browser. select youtube and it will play, but it seems to drop the added extension. if we could find a way to make it keep it, it would effectivly remove the need to use www.keepvid.com
and the 720p vidoes (if available) do play very well and look AWSOME on the phone!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pXfHLUlZf4&fmt=22 (the one i d/l to my phone to test a HD video)
I found a way to not have to d/l the video. just copy the link from www.keepvid.com and put it into the Meridian Video Player from the marketplace. It will stream it no problem, including the HD ones... (does not work with the youtube link and the added extension, but at least you dont have to d/l videos anymore)
If there would be a way to use longclick to have an option to open it in Meridian, you could do this probably from the youtube page even. Or if a similar option would be available from the mail app, then you just send the link and click!
Just to comment, but none of the youtube videos are anywhere close to 720p in resolution. They are indeed pretty good for streaming videos but those are probably about 800x480 or something along the lines of that.
just wanted to let everyone knows that Plex is now fully working on the asus transformer.
I cant get it to install, just sits downloading with no info at all :'(
Left it downloading over night, was installed by morning, must of been some weird issue on google's side
Plex is awesome, especially on this Transformer
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How do you get it to buffer the video? Mine just sits a 0% and then kicks me back to the media selection screen. Do you have to set port forwarding on the router?
Does it lag when playing 720p MKV files? I don't have my Transformer yet, but I've tested PLEX on my HTC Desire HD and it's lags pretty much when playing the 720p MKV's in 5 Mbps in the settings, changing the settings to 1,5 Mbps works fine but the quality is like crap.
Maybe it's just because of my Desire HD, or my broken graphics card
I couldn't get plex working, installalled the server side app on my Windows 7 x64 pc, installed the Android app.
Set it all up, port forwarded on my router, transformer sees all my movies but each time I select a movie it just shows a black screen for a few seconds and then bombs me back to the selection part again.
MP3's on the other hand all work fine, its just movie streaming that I couldn't get sorted out, all divx/xvid movies.
If anyone has any suggestions or pointers i would be greatful
thanks..just updated it from the market and it works great.. streaming 720p High profile files without any lag
this app is amazing.
just got it from the market....works perfect!
Does this work over internet or just over the LAN.
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bobcatuk said:
I couldn't get plex working, installalled the server side app on my Windows 7 x64 pc, installed the Android app.
Set it all up, port forwarded on my router, transformer sees all my movies but each time I select a movie it just shows a black screen for a few seconds and then bombs me back to the selection part again.
MP3's on the other hand all work fine, its just movie streaming that I couldn't get sorted out, all divx/xvid movies.
If anyone has any suggestions or pointers i would be greatful
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Have you tried enabling 'direct play' in the options, in the tablet app, not the server?
What's the difference between direct play and direct stream ?.
bobcatuk said:
I couldn't get plex working, installalled the server side app on my Windows 7 x64 pc, installed the Android app.
Set it all up, port forwarded on my router, transformer sees all my movies but each time I select a movie it just shows a black screen for a few seconds and then bombs me back to the selection part again.
MP3's on the other hand all work fine, its just movie streaming that I couldn't get sorted out, all divx/xvid movies.
If anyone has any suggestions or pointers i would be greatful
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you either downloaded from Amazon or pirated it. Neither versions are the correct one for Honeycomb.
Plex is awesome! Works perfectly on my eeepad.
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What's the difference between direct play and direct stream ?.
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http://www.tested.com/forums/phones/4/plex-11-for-ios-gets-direct-play-and-direct-streaming/7447/
never used plex before but love it know.I love the film title pic and info given really good, is there a way to get such info for movie's already stored on the TF,I don't mean running plex, when i go into the gallery tab my movie's are , but it doesn't even show the titles.Would love to have it show titles, cover art even synopsis
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never used plex before but love it know.I love the film title pic and info given really good, is there a way to get such info for movie's already stored on the TF,I don't mean running plex, when i go into the gallery tab my movie's are , but it doesn't even show the titles.Would love to have it show titles, cover art even synopsis
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I don't know.. but I doubt it. It seems that all the work for show titles, cover art, and synopsis are created by the server app.. not the client app on the tablet.
Getting really bad quality on apple movie trailers and so so on local stuff. Definitely not HD. What settings do you use? Think I will ask for refund.
transceiver said:
Getting really bad quality on apple movie trailers and so so on local stuff. Definitely not HD. What settings do you use? Think I will ask for refund.
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AFAIK Plex uses Direct-stream which downgrades quality based on its detection methods for the device. I've noticed definite quality downgrades on some of my stuff, but at least they play. Plex has been the only streamer that I have gotten to play hi-profile files, but it does downgrade them. Some people think it's a hardware problem with Tegra2, but I have not gotten any player (moboplayer, vplayer etc...) to play hi-profile mkv's without immense lag.
Now all Plex needs to do is get working on doing mkv container subtitles over streaming and it would be perfect!
Plex works amazing. Can't wait for Hulu and Netflix support.
Apple Trailers are bad quality but that was the only thing I coud see. But then again who cares, its Apple.
So I've attached two images below. They are of two different YouTube videos being played on the Dolphin browser. As you can see, one plays normally, but the other is a grey box. It usually takes a while to actually start playing and when it does, it becomes a different aspect ratio (4:3 instead of the 16: 9 or 16:10 that it should be). Does anyone know why this happens and have a way to fix it? l know a simple solution would be to use the YouTube application or the YouTube mobile site, but I prefer the quality options of the desktop site.
Why don't you use the youtube app?
smaw51 said:
Why don't you use the youtube app?
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clee290 said:
So I've attached two images below. They are of two different YouTube videos being played on the Dolphin browser. As you can see, one plays normally, but the other is a grey box. It usually takes a while to actually start playing and when it does, it becomes a different aspect ratio (4:3 instead of the 16: 9 or 16:10 that it should be). Does anyone know why this happens and have a way to fix it? I know a simple solution would be to use the YouTube application or the YouTube mobile site, but I prefer the quality options of the desktop site.
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
My bad, I don't know how I didn't see that before.
There are tweaks in pimp my rom here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1908269
That I have used to help my streaming of videos and stuff, it might work for you as well.
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My bad, I don't know how I didn't see that before.
There are tweaks in pimp my rom here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1908269
That I have used to help my streaming of videos and stuff, it might work for you as well.
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It's no problem
And thanks, but I've been using Dolphin Browser beta and it doesn't seem to have this issue. I'll probably stick with this for awhile
Hi all, so I bought a TV Box
http://www.ebay.com/itm/111155242479?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
And I am just completely disappointed. XBMC addons are unusable, everything lags. Playing 720p video in MX Player makes it slightly lag. My Nexus S from 2010 can play 720p just fine. I made sure I checked all the settings, lowered the output resolution to 720p at 50fps and it still lags. Even typing text lags. At this point, my TV Box is completely useless. Did I just buy a horrible box or am I missing something?
A question for all owners of various boxes - what software do you use? How did you set it up? Does it work?
Thanks!
Try a different power source, dont power the device through the TV USB. it seems RK devices underperform when they are underpowered.
The worst it can be is a fake device, still the freaktab community can help you identify the board and give you any rom that performs better.
What's up,
So I've had my Tablet Z for just about a month and the only real complaint I have is the YouTube app video quality is pretty bad! What little setting adjustments there are don't do anything to help. It looks like my player is playing lo-res 480p video on an HD screen even when HD is highlighted as the play option.
Netflix, Sony Video player and inline/embedded videos all look great so I know it's specific to the YouTube player.
Hoping that the update that's due out this week will alleviate the problem, part of the update addresses the YouTube app. I didn't know that manufacturer's had their own versions of the Google core apps, learn something new everyday.
Anybody else?
Thanks.
They don't have their own version of the apps. They can't. Youtube, like many other apps, is closed source. The fix includes something in the file system related to YT, but not the app itself. I guess the update is related to videos most of the times stop working in the middle of it for no reason. Embed with a browser, and other apps, work just fine.
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They don't have their own version of the apps. They can't. Youtube, like many other apps, is closed source. The fix includes something in the file system related to YT, but not the app itself. I guess the update is related to videos most of the times stop working in the middle of it for no reason. Embed with a browser, and other apps, work just fine.
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Thanks for the info.
How's the pic quality of your YouTube app?
Madcypher said:
Thanks for the info.
How's the pic quality of your YouTube app?
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Check out the app called viral it solves the problem plus you can use it in floating mode or minimize it to play while screen is off when I started using viral it could go to 1080p which looks gorgeous on this device but for some reason I can only choose up to 720p but it's not tacky like it is on the official app
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Thanks for the info.
How's the pic quality of your YouTube app?
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I think it runs at least 720p on supported videos... I think there is a hack to force use 1080p, not sure...
So I uninstalled the most recent update and the video quality dramatically improves! I'll stay with 4.5.17 until they have another major updates.I'll miss some of the cooler navigation features of the new version, but is rather have the picture quality back.
I'm surprised I'm there's only one this affected.
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So I uninstalled the most recent update and the video quality dramatically improves! I'll stay with 4.5.17 until they have another major updates.I'll miss some of the cooler navigation features of the new version, but is rather have the picture quality back.
I'm surprised I'm there's only one this affected.
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You're not the only one.... Same issues here, as well as on my dad's XTZ and my Nexus 5.... Seems like the new version of the app doesn't upscale from 720p to 1080p very nicely at all.....