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I did some digging on this subject, couldn't really find a definite answer on the subject. I currently own a tilt, and am considering purchasing a fuze, since with the announcement of the tilt 2, they are dropping in price. But my concern is power! You might know, that the Tilt has some video driver issues, as in can't play h.264/mp4's too well, i.e. any video podcasts i download. I'm also hoping to get emulators running smoothly with sound, but thats not too important. So my question is this, is this issue resolved on the Fuze? I noticed a thread stickied discussing touch pro performance, but nothing really says "it's fixed". Saw a few posts saying the drivers are still crap though. Thanks for any help! (and sorry if it's already posted, and i just couldn't find it)
Fixed - no!
Watchable - yes, depending on the files you're starting with of course.
Being VGA (tilt is qvga) everything on the screen looks much better and coreplayer does make most things play quite well.
Basically I have found that you can play any format video on this device very smoothly, AS LONG as it doesnt use the dolby AC3 Codec for audio as coreplayer wont play this and you need to revert to the older, non hardware supporting TCMP. Luckily this means about 5% of my media
im hsving problems with the coreplayer key
HTC Album/full screen player plays .mp4's pretty well. Unfortunately, it has a sucky UI (rather, it doesn't have an interface).
you can use newer version of full screen player and htc album which have better interface controls. i would still spring for core player. plays my divx videos perfectly, full visual framerate and matching audio. much better than divxplayer.
Thanks for the replies you guys! So, just to clarify, if I bought a fuze, and downloaded any random video podcast, which is usually mp4, 640x480, I wouldn't be disappointed?
Hi all.
I purchased this device mostly to be used as a companion for when I stream to Justin.TV. This website uses both flash video and java at the same time. I want to monitor my video stream and the chat while I play. I know I could of got a netbook for this, but I would like the tablet for doing other things.
Some streams with lower quality work good for me, but my stream does not play. The stream will freeze, but I am able to hear the audio. My stream is in flash and is 720p, 3000kbps, H.264.
I tried some other 720p flash video and received the message "Video Not Optimized For Mobile Device". (Uh, yeah, that's why I bought a tablet and not a phone). Obviously this is because of the Android OS and not the hardware?
So I am half-happy because I can see the chat, but not the video. Is there anything I can do to help this? I am running TnT 2.2.0 with the flash player linked to in the thread.
If this can't be fixed for now, does anyone think it will be resolved in the future? Perhaps a better Flash apk that supports the Tegra better? Or would I be better with the new Viewsonic Viewpad?
Thanks
A lot of this is bleeding edge. We are using a phone OS that has been modded for tablets and not supported by Google (yet). And, the Tegra itself is relatively new and has had issues because of it.
In six months, I expect that a lot of these issues with be old news. But for now, it's a problem.
Which browser are using? Have you tried Dolphin HD and changed the User Agent to desktop?
For my stream I get the same results with the default browser and Dolphin HD, but for some reason with Dolphin HD I am forced to the mobile site every time. Even with user agent set to Desktop. So I can't try the HD flash video with Dolphin.
There is no mobile version of my stream.
Based on roebeet's post, I guess i'll stick it out and hope it gets better. I am already somewhat happy because I can run Ventrilo and see the chat at the same time. That's already more than my iPad can do.
Now if I can just get the USB keyboard working.
Thanks for the replies.
After messing around with my Infuse on stock, custom Froyo and Gingerbread ROM's, I've noticed a pretty major difference between it and I9000-based phones like the Captivate: video performance.
On my Captivate, hardware-accelerated video playback up to 720p was rock solid. If it played at all, it always played smoothly, and this was regardless of running programs or RAM usage. With the Infuse, Froyo ROM's support hardware-accelerated video playback up to 1080p, but there seem to be some disadvantages.
The most major thing I noticed is that RAM usage affects video playback. If I use my phone for a while and allow the RAM to populate with background apps, I immediately run into issues trying to play video: high-bitrate 1080p video will no longer play. Instead, I just get a black screen and no sound. Additionally, several 720p videos I tested will lag heavily. Occasionally (using an app that supports both hardware and software playback like MX Video Player), playing a video will error out and force the app to switch to software decoding.
Clearing the RAM using the built-in task manager and restarting the video player immediately resolves these issues for the most part. There still are some effects that always persist though: certain 720p videos (which play perfectly on my Captivate) will still show some hints of lag using either hardware or software decoding. Additionally, I can't seek or resume playback of high-bitrate 1080p MKV's: the screen goes black and the sound stops playing. I can only play these files from the beginning for them to have video and sound.
Except for the issues specifically relating to 1080p (which don't apply to Gingerbread ROM's), all of these issues are observed and reproducible on any ROM, including stock Froyo, custom Froyo (Infused 1.6), Hellraiser + any I9000 JVQ ROM and Infused v2.2.3. This is severely disappointing, because I upgraded to the Infuse expecting a media experience equal to or improved over the Captivate with the SAMOLED+ screen. I also didn't want a Galaxy S2 because the Yamaha audio chip it uses is a dealbreaker for me.
While that was mostly a list of observations and a not-so-subtle rant, would anyone be able to offer an explanation for this? Or perhaps my case is somehow isolated? Can anyone else confirm this?
Edit: Here's a YouTube video showing the RAM usage playback issues: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPiCPSWUTCY
Never had any trouble with video playback. I have a couple of movies on mine. Running Infused 2.2.3
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Never had any trouble with video playback. I have a couple of movies on mine. Running Infused 2.2.3
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I'm not sure what to think of that, considering Infused 2.2.3 doesn't even support 1080p playback. But even leaving that out, would you be willing to test sample videos? I mean I can't really explain this better without posting a video of a side-by-side comparison of my Captivate and Infuse playing the same set of videos to show that the Infuse lags on certain videos while the Captivate is smooth.
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I did some additional testing. Running Infused 1.6 Froyo, I loaded up every app on my phone and then minimized them with the home key. The phone was still running smoothly and there was no signs of lag, but the RAM was as full as I could make it. I then opened the stock video app and attempted to play my library of videos.
The result? Only 2 videos played. One was a 720p H.264 MKV encoded from a Bluray, and the other was the 1080p trailer that came preloaded on the phone. Both videos lagged heavily. The rest of the videos (lower quality 720p or higher bitrate 1080p H.264 MKV's) did not play at all: just a black screen and a seek bar that didn't move. I then performed a level 2 clear using the task manager. Result: all the videos played fine without lag.
Conclusion: video playback on the Infuse is definitely tied to RAM usage, which is NOT the case on the I9000/Captivate.
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You need to **** off.
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if you have a drop box or want to upload the problem videos somewhere ill test it to verify the results. I don't have much of a library. especially not anything high quality.
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if you have a drop box or want to upload the problem videos somewhere ill test it to verify the results. I don't have much of a library. especially not anything high quality.
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Thanks. I'm working on it, I'll send you a PM in a bit.
Edit: PM sent.
sorry to inform you but I had no issues with that video. I wonder if you may have something stuck in data somewhere (some apps keep data on the sd card) or If you may have bad blocks on your sdcard. I haven't rebooted my phone today and loaded up ram by playing flash videos in the phone browser getting ram all the way up to 340 mb used. 140 was the browser alone and I started that video just fine. ill keep testing but if I were you id back up the sd cards and wipe the phone through settings (does an internal sd format as well unlike the recovery wipe) after a flash with the unbrick and start over. if it persists id get a new phone and for the sake of being thorough I will test it more but so ar I couldn't reproduce the issues.
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sorry to inform you but I had no issues with that video. I wonder if you may have something stuck in data somewhere (some apps keep data on the sd card) or If you may have bad blocks on your sdcard. I haven't rebooted my phone today and loaded up ram by playing flash videos in the phone browser getting ram all the way up to 340 mb used. 140 was the browser alone and I started that video just fine. ill keep testing but if I were you id back up the sd cards and wipe the phone through settings (does an internal sd format as well unlike the recovery wipe) after a flash with the unbrick and start over. if it persists id get a new phone and for the sake of being thorough I will test it more but so ar I couldn't reproduce the issues.
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I'm going to return to stock using Unbrick and reformat the internal SD and try again. I don't see why there would be bad blocks though. I'm guessing the video plays smoothly without any sort of lag or hitches for you?
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I'm going to return to stock using Unbrick and reformat the internal SD and try again. I don't see why there would be bad blocks though. I'm guessing the video plays smoothly without any sort of lag or hitches for you?
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smooth as butter. sometimes weird hard to explain stuff happens. I can't explain it.
I can see how a kernel issue in gb could cause it with rogers lame firmware but I don't see the issue with infused 1.6 so it doesn't seem to be an infuse specific issue at all.
Ok, I just finished completely resetting, reflashing and reformatting my phone. On first boot, I threw that exact file I sent you back onto the memory and tried to play it. Still got a black screen with no sound or video. Opened the task manager, performed a level 2 clear and tried again. Video plays but still lags and hitches every few seconds. I mean, if I'm really the only one with this issue...???
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Ok, I just finished completely resetting, reflashing and reformatting my phone. On first boot, I threw that exact file I sent you back onto the memory and tried to play it. Still got a black screen with no sound or video. Opened the task manager, performed a level 2 clear and tried again. Video plays but still lags and hitches every few seconds. I mean, if I'm really the only one with this issue...???
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sorry looks that way. but you should have only moved the videos back for testing. i know it shouldnt matter but computers are weird. maybe it's a deficientcy in your cpu? could only apply to the gpu inside it. you just never know. if you can reproduce the error with the trailers that come on the phone and compare it to a store model maybe they'll swap it out for you. if not call customer service and raise hell or send it to samsung.
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sorry looks that way. but you should have only moved the videos back for testing. i know it shouldnt matter but computers are weird. maybe it's a deficientcy in your cpu? could only apply to the gpu inside it. you just never know. if you can reproduce the error with the trailers that come on the phone and compare it to a store model maybe they'll swap it out for you. if not call customer service and raise hell or send it to samsung.
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What do you mean only move the videos back for testing? I didn't put anything on the phone except for that video file. The CPU doesn't seem to be the issue, because I tested against my Captivate using CPU Spy: both phones run at 400MHz during video playback, which is good enough for lag-free video on the Captivate (and should be the same case for the Infuse).
I can't get much to happen with the trailers that came with the phone, because only one is HD and it's a small file with black bars and a lower bitrate than most encodes. If I leave the phone running for over a day with the memory full, I can get the 1080p trailer to lag, but that's not very helpful for getting an exchange (especially since I got my phone at Costco and there are no active models in the store).
But that's not the issue anyway. The problem is that I've been enjoying 720p video on my Captivate for over a year. Now I've upgraded to the Infuse, which is supposed to have even better video performance and its having issues with all of my 720p and 1080p videos.
I'm almost positive this isn't a hardware issue though. Are you sure the entire opening sequence of that video is smooth on your phone? It doesn't seem like you've ever seen the video before watching it on your phone. If you haven't, please watch the video side-by-side on your computer and phone and look for any differences.
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What do you mean only move the videos back for testing? I didn't put anything on the phone except for that video file. The CPU doesn't seem to be the issue, because I tested against my Captivate using CPU Spy: both phones run at 400MHz during video playback, which is good enough for lag-free video on the Captivate (and should be the same case for the Infuse).
I can't get much to happen with the trailers that came with the phone, because only one is HD and it's a small file with black bars and a lower bitrate than most encodes. If I leave the phone running for over a day with the memory full, I can get the 1080p trailer to lag, but that's not very helpful for getting an exchange (especially since I got my phone at Costco and there are no active models in the store).
But that's not the issue anyway. The problem is that I've been enjoying 720p video on my Captivate for over a year. Now I've upgraded to the Infuse, which is supposed to have even better video performance and its having issues with all of my 720p and 1080p videos.
I'm almost positive this isn't a hardware issue though. Are you sure the entire opening sequence of that video is smooth on your phone? It doesn't seem like you've ever seen the video before watching it on your phone. If you haven't, please watch the video side-by-side on your computer and phone and look for any differences.
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i meant not to restore all the files from the sd card backup when you test. just the files you want to test.
it is extremely smooth i cant seem to do anything to make it not smooth. i even bogged my phone down sequencially opening every app on the thing and returning home with the home button till it started lagging badly but when i open the video player it is butter smooth. really i cant explain your issues, im just speculating possibilities.
but ill try it on my computer as well.
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i meant not to restore all the files from the sd card backup when you test. just the files you want to test.
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I only restored one file. The video. Nothing else.
Edit: Can you tell me the build number of your Infuse (the 4-digit number under the battery, between S/N and SKU)? Mine is 1104.
oh wait there it is. the video player just stopped working.
not sure what changed but i put it on the dock and tried starting it again and no dice. i dont think this is ram related.
the issue for me is intermittent at best though. after a reboot it didnt play at first but 2 minutes later it was fine.
mine is also an 1104. april 2011 that's weird i wonder if you got a refurb. i think i picked mine up launch week.
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oh wait there it is. the video player just stopped working.
not sure what changed but i put it on the dock and tried starting it again and no dice. i dont think this is ram related.
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Hmm, I wonder if that's unrelated to the issue considering how easily it happens on my phone and how much trouble you had to go through. If the video still doesn't lag on your phone at all (when you compare it to a computer), then I'll assume you're not getting the same issue. Also, are you using the kernel that came with Infused 1.6, or did you flash another one?
infused as is right now. nothing oddball here. atleast not right now. i have used some init.d scripts on it for loopy smoothness and memory managment mods but this time it is only the rom as gtg released it with the included kernel.
ok found the issue sorta. i cant tell what causes it but if you launch the video from my files or other file manager it works fine. if you open it from video player it doesn't. the video didnt show in my video player at first so i opened it from my files. after that it was in the video list in the video player and didnt work. there is something odd going on here because video player doesnt show in recent apps if you open it from the file manager. also after opening the video player it doesnt work from my files till you kill the video player. it is just weirdness. there is some messed up programming going on here. but try killing the player and opening the file with file manager. and yes i made sure it is using the samsung video player when it asked!
sorry i asked you to wipe your phone for that but if you dont do that and use the unbrick you can see all sorts of issues and no one is sure why.
Maybe that's why mine play fine. I've never loaded a vid into the player. Just opened them bygoing to the gallery.
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infused as is right now. nothing oddball here. atleast not right now. i have used some init.d scripts on it for loopy smoothness and memory managment mods but this time it is only the rom as gtg released it with the included kernel.
ok found the issue sorta. i cant tell what causes it but if you launch the video from my files or other file manager it works fine. if you open it from video player it doesn't. the video didnt show in my video player at first so i opened it from my files. after that it was in the video list in the video player and didnt work. there is something odd going on here because video player doesnt show in recent apps if you open it from the file manager. also after opening the video player it doesnt work from my files till you kill the video player. it is just weirdness. there is some messed up programming going on here. but try killing the player and opening the file with file manager. and yes i made sure it is using the samsung video player when it asked!
sorry i asked you to wipe your phone for that but if you dont do that and use the unbrick you can see all sorts of issues and no one is sure why.
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That's an unexpected development. I've always been opening my videos from the video player, never from a file manager. How about other video players? Did you try MX Video Player? I need to use that player for my videos to see the subtitles (the video I sent you has subtitles that will display in MX Video Player and mVideoPlayer, but the former is better at displaying them).
Edit: Actually, I just tried playing the video from both the stock file manager and the Gallery app, and I still have the exact same issues as the video app :/
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That's an unexpected development. I've always been opening my videos from the video player, never from a file manager. How about other video players? Did you try MX Video Player? I need to use that player for my videos to see the subtitles (the video I sent you has subtitles that will display in MX Video Player and mVideoPlayer, but the former is better at displaying them).
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is it free?
Just bought an HDMI connector for my Samsung note 10.1 to plug into my 1080P LG TV.
All connected up but I get two vertical black lines either side of the output on the TV. Like its not outputting from the device at the correct resolution. I've tried all the scaling options available on the TV but none of them get rid of the bars completly.
Called samsung help line but they couldnt help, they are phonig back later and will probably blame the TV although it works fine with XBox, skybox, laptops etc.
Anyone have an idea what would be the problem?
It's just a little bar of each side, right?
I get the same in my LG and Sony TVs... I think it's normal because of TV resolution.
But when I play videos (with stock video player), it goes fullscreen, so there's no big problem for my use.
I can't confirm right now, but with some games (I think) the fullscreen works well too.
EDIT: both TVs are FullHD too...
EDIT2: I just tested and my previously information was wrong... none of my games works in fullscreen. Sorry :/
Full HD is 1920 x 1080
I've tried on my two TVs
My LG 50 inch , 1920 x 1980, two big bars either side.
My Samsung 32 720P two bars on this too.
It's not outputting.
check if the tv has overscan to get round it.
Which games go full screen i have tried with need for speed , nova, bad piggy hd. None go full screen. Only playing movie through stock video player does. Not reallly happy with this and samsung support is next to hopeless they dont even bother to read my email before replying
It says itsupports 1080p doesnt say only in movie player..
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Which games go full screen i have tried with need for speed , nova, bad piggy hd. None go full screen. Only playing movie through stock video player does. Not reallly happy with this and samsung support is next to hopeless they dont even bother to read my email before replying
It says itsupports 1080p doesnt say only in movie player..
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Yeah, you're right... only works on stock video player. I Edited my post.
I have the same problem
In ipad there are software in cydia fix this problem
But I dont find and program can resize screen to fit it
Any solution for this issue?
My Nexus player has been struck with the dreaded Soap Opera Effect. Essentially it's a motion blur type effect that affects streaming video. Netflix, Plex, etc.
This has been happening since updating to v5.1. Anyone else having this issue? Any ideas on how to fix it?
This video will give you an idea. To see the effect, I had to run at 720p 60fps or higher.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=882c25af2hM
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My Nexus player has been struck with the dreaded Soap Opera Effect. Essentially it's a motion blur type effect that affects streaming video. Netflix, Plex, etc.
This has been happening since updating to v5.1. Anyone else having this issue? Any ideas on how to fix it?
This video will give you an idea. To see the effect, I had to run at 720p 60fps or higher.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=882c25af2hM
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Isn't 60fps going to do that every time? Go back to 24fps and enjoy...
Maybe I'm confused...
Yeah sorry, I didn't explain clearly.
On the Nexus player we're not watching 60fps content. Just regular 24 or 30 or whatever.
I posted the youtube video so that you might see an example of what we're seeing on our TV. When watching that example video, I was only able to see the motion blur when I was watching it at 60 fps.
If you're getting any sort of frame-interpolation on video playback it is more likely that it is being done by your TV (if you have a 120Hz+ television) then the Nexus Player itself, because as far as I know the player does not have the software or hardware capabilities to do so and even if it did it wouldn't showup as a bug it would have to be enabled with some sort of third-party hack or application.
tl;dr: if you're seeing frame-interpolation in your videos, check your TVs settings and ensure "Smooth Motion" or "True Motion" or anything with that sort of name is disabled.
We're looking into that. It's an old POS TV that does 1080p, and not much else. We looked through the menu's and online, but found nothing about motion or any sort of video processing.
I'm going to test the Nexus Player with another TV and see what happens.
can confirm
It's not the TV can confirm after the update the nexus player is experiencing soap opera effect. are there settings to disable the effects?
The same thing is happening to me since the Android 5.1 update on my Nexus Player, but only under certain circumstances. The tv it is attached to is 1080p 60hz.
If i cast from plex to the Nexus Player, I get the soap opera effect, however if I use the plex app on the Nexus Player itself, I do not get the effect. Its infuriating. Does anyone know what is causing this or how to fix it?
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The same thing is happening to me since the Android 5.1 update on my Nexus Player, but only under certain circumstances. The tv it is attached to is 1080p 60hz.
If i cast from plex to the Nexus Player, I get the soap opera effect, however if I use the plex app on the Nexus Player itself, I do not get the effect. Its infuriating. Does anyone know what is causing this or how to fix it?
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I have the exact same issue. And my TV is an old Sharp 60hz which has none of that Motion/Flow technology. It only happens when I cast. No issue if I use the app. I am not sure I like this effect.
Ok....well this brings up my question....
I installed showbox via air share. ...I was seeing how well it works (testing it) it I notice on the whole horizontal bottom...2inch thick it's black/white. .........all of the movie is colored but the 2inch thick whole bottom is b/w. ....I also notice after 25 to 30 min into the movie it buffed and went to the beginning of movie (played on movie) haven't tried a different movie yet
It seems the soap opera effect only happens with apps that use the native android media player (i.e. Showbox, Starz Play, Encore Play) and it is in fact, VERY ANNOYING. I know Chainfire has a tweak that allows you to change the Hz for playback, but I haven't tried it yet.
i actually would like soap opera effect on my android tv box (mk808b plus)..any idea how the nexus player does it?
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i actually would like soap opera effect on my android tv box (mk808b plus)..any idea how the nexus player does it?
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I'm also keen on trying to port it to my device, I did some digging and found the SDK responsible for it, sadly it's intel, so unless it can be ported to some other system it's essentially useless to us.
It seems to rely on some sort of ISV lib, probably standing for Intel Smart Video, so I presume it'll be a lot of work bringing it to other devices.
https://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/frame-rate-conversion-frc-in-intel-media-sdk
https://android.googlesource.com/device/asus/fugu/+/master/video_isv_profile.xml
http://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/c/96342/3/device.mk
https://android.googlesource.com/pl...n/utils/+/ce70dcd/ISV/profile/isv_profile.cpp
Pleaaase i would love video interpolation on my Nexus 6p!!!!
That is the only reason i prefer watching stuff on my pc(with SVP interpolation) even though my nexus AMOLED is awesome(on srgb of course)