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Just updated to 1.5

After a lot of trepidation, I finally rooted and upgraded to JF1.5. I really have to thank all the people who have spent sooooo much time discovering and documenting this.
I did a lot of reading before I upgraded. I finally used http://code.google.com/p/android-roms/wiki/TableOfContents , because it's excellently documented and has all the files I need in one place. Thanks Jon Pezz!
I do have some questions and observations
1. I can't seem to get telnetd working after upgrading to JF1.5. I read posts about it being broken in an earlier release, but being subsequently fixed. Is this broken or intentionally turned off? I love the G1 for the physical keyboard, but it's a poor country cousin to my IBM Model M keyboard And I'd rather use my PC for typing any day.
2. One of the best devices I have owned is the Sharp Zaurus. It wasn't a phone, but it was a great Wifi Device. It was Linux too and I could control it completely. I'm surprised that Google is making us jump through hoops to get root access. Also, I don't see samba, vnc server, vpn etc. yet. Some work around, some in progress, but surprisingly not the real thing.
3. I was completely underwhelmed by the multi-touch in the browser. It's performing so poorly, initially I thought it wasn't working at all. It works really well on the iPhone, but on the G1 it's very unresponsive. I tried unchecking "Fit to page", although I think that's so incredibly useful for browsing on mobile devices - in fact, one of the reasons why I think this is a better browser than the one on the iPhone. So maybe it's not really ready for prime time. I found it much faster to use the single touch zooming.
4. While I really like the physical keyboard, like everybody, the soft keyboard is very handy for typing a few letters. But in the two places where I really find myself needing one, it doesn't work - quickly filtering contacts and and in the App drawer to select an app. In the case of contacts, you have to open the menu, select search, click on the text field and then start typing. It's faster to just flip out the physical keyboard. In the Apps drawer, it doesn't work at all. It would be useful to add a button combo that would popup the soft keyboard.
Also, I see a lot of people asking for the HTC T9 keyboard for contacts. You might want to check out SpellDial in the Market. Works really well.
Code:
[url]market://search?q=pname:org.ravelin.android[/url]
Regards
Milind

os2baba said:
I'm surprised that Google is making us jump through hoops to get root access.
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I'm not. Root access would wreak havoc on 95% of G1 owners seeing they are oblivious to the phones capabilities and just use it as a phone. Can you imagine the damage some rouge/malicious app on the Market could cause? There isn't a chance in hell Google could pull it fast enough.

os2baba said:
1. I can't seem to get telnetd working after upgrading to JF1.5. I read posts about it being broken in an earlier release, but being subsequently fixed. Is this broken or intentionally turned off?
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If I'm not mistaken i believe telnetd was disabled b/c of security reasons.
Just imagine if while using a wifi network someone else gained root access of your phone. Not a cool risk worth taking.

uberingram said:
I'm not. Root access would wreak havoc on 95% of G1 owners seeing they are oblivious to the phones capabilities and just use it as a phone. Can you imagine the damage some rouge/malicious app on the Market could cause? There isn't a chance in hell Google could pull it fast enough.
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The way it is currently set with no password, maybe. But if while registering for Gmail, it used the same password for root (or provided advanced users with an ability to use a different password for the phone), would that still be a security issue?

Binary100100 said:
If I'm not mistaken i believe telnetd was disabled b/c of security reasons.
Just imagine if while using a wifi network someone else gained root access of your phone. Not a cool risk worth taking.
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Again, isn't this because of the fact that root has no password (or has a fixed password)? Wouldn't this be like any other linux box if there were a user password. From my light browsing on the subject, doesn't look like anyone's got sshd running on the G1 either.
Regards
Milind

you can filter contacts with the virtual keyboard. Hit menu then hit search then start typing with the virtual keyboard.

[Q] Transformer browsers force closing

I keep having my browsers stop, they wont finish loading and then when I touch on the address search bar or refresh button on the screen I get the force close message. I'm having problems with the stock browser and also the dolphin hd browser too. It happens after about 10 minutes and I can't find any correlation with certain sites, it's just after a little time no matter what I'm looking at. I did a search and only came across someone saying they were having a problem but it was a xoom and they were also rooted. My transformer is all stock and only about a week old. Does anyone have any suggestions or anything? Besides that I love this thing. Thanks for the help.

some sites are inaccessible without crashing to the desktop. Web browsing is one of the major use cases for the transformer. It will be nice if this geta fixed.

Are you serious? I researched tide tablet for weeks before i decided on it. I knew about the cameras and taking videos not being good, I knee there was a chance for light bleed, and also that there were some problems with hd video playback sometimes. I hadn't read anything however on browsing problems. I tried Firefox and opera along with dolphin and they all stop and crash. I don't understand why someone didn't mention this in their reviews with it being a problem. I've had no problems with light bleed, video playback and the camera is fine for me, but the browsing problem would have dissuaded me from purchasing if I would have known. Is there no fixes at all?

The problem is java script, try to disable java

amstaff72 said:
I keep having my browsers stop, they wont finish loading and then when I touch on the address search bar or refresh button on the screen I get the force close message. I'm having problems with the stock browser and also the dolphin hd browser too. It happens after about 10 minutes and I can't find any correlation with certain sites, it's just after a little time no matter what I'm looking at. I did a search and only came across someone saying they were having a problem but it was a xoom and they were also rooted. My transformer is all stock and only about a week old. Does anyone have any suggestions or anything? Besides that I love this thing. Thanks for the help.
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On Monday I'll have my Transformer for 2 weeks. I just started having browser crashes yesterday only after a couple of minutes of browsing. This has happened on yahoo & xda. At the time I was trying to copy & paste. What I don't understand is I wasn't having problems before.
Also, I am unable to do a search on XDA. The search & keyboard come up monetarily then close.

Are you guys running stock 3.1 honeycomb?

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Are you guys running stock 3.1 honeycomb?
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Yes, stock & not rooted

I never get force closing pop ups but everynow and then the browser just closes... but then it depends on the website
I;m running overclocked prime

Mine is just stock, I haven't rooted mine either. I can usually browse for 10 minutes or so before mine stops then force closes. It seems strange that it just started after 2 weeks for the one person. If the problem is Java and I turn it off won't that limit some of the sites? I hate to be limited on browsing, otherwise you might as well get a dang ipad. I hope we find a fix for this it's driving me crazy.

Stock, 3.1 not rooted. The crashing is site specific. It happens with Dolphin as well. Xscope will handle the site, but it has other usability issues (like no zoom) . Do other tablets (zoom,tab 10.1,etc) have these issues? I love paying to be a beta tester.

Same problem here, browser crashes on certain webpages without a warning, switching java off solves the problem but this shouldn't be a solution

Turning off Java Script does indeed help a lot it seems - faster loading and far less crashes. As a web technology noob what do I lose w/o Java script? I browse mostly news/science/tech blogs and forums. Not to many interactive (save Facebook of course).
Any good tips on what losing JV scrips limits?
Thanks!

This has been discussed before Its a known issues (at least to us that have them) and its pretty annoying to say the least. Turning off javascript helps in two different ways (stops crashes and speeds up browsing), but some pages wont display correctly without it.

i resolved crashes with "adfree"

I've never seen my browser as prone to crash or sluggish on the transformer. The only thing I configured is to start plugins on click only (like poor man flashblock - but I prefer it this way on my desktop Chrome too). Running stock 3.1.

i wwill try the adfree and I will post my results.

I've had my Transformer for about three weeks and besides slowing down quite a bit the stock browser and Dolphin have been crashing regularly as of last week. I'm running stock 3.1 - not rooted or anything. It's gotten bad enough that I've basically stopped using it and am using my Acer W500 and iPad. I can put up with some problems in a new unit but if I had known that Honeycomb was as buggy as it seems to be so far I probably would not have purchased this.

i got mine last week, the default browser performance is unacceptable. It just crashes without any warning. Clicking comboboxes , checkboxes and even links in some cases is far too difficult to get right with one go, there are instances where you simply cant do it at all , even after zooming all the way in. Turning off JavaScript is not an option for me, there are simply too many sites using JavaScript for their manus n stuff. Now using dolphin browser, seemsmuch better, but still unreble.I am a huge android supporter, i have a galaxy s and i love it. But recently i compared this against an ipad 2, i hate to say this but with current firmware (3.1 stock, not rooted) this tablet is far inferior to the ipad when it comes to web browsing. I hate apple products,but at this point id rather have an ipad, over this

bithir said:
I've never seen my browser as prone to crash or sluggish on the transformer. The only thing I configured is to start plugins on click only (like poor man flashblock - but I prefer it this way on my desktop Chrome too). Running stock 3.1.
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Try loading gmail web site and see how sluggish the performance is.

Browser Cache
I cleared my browser cache and this seemed to fix it. can someone test and post results?

my experience with tweaking the stock rom to perform properly

personally, i happen to like the stock ui of this phone, so i didnt want to flash a custom rom or anything like that. i kept searching for different ways to improve performance and limit bugginess, and here is what i have come up with. first, root is a must for this phone. so is cwm recovery. the first thing i did was boot into cwm recovery and run fix permissions. this stopped the constant rebooting, but i was still experiencing the vibrating and force closing problem. i began deleting bloatware apps that i wasnt using. i installed an app called total commander for android, which has many different wonderful functions, one of which is mounting any partition as r/w. when you are done modifying a partition, you can also mount it back to r/o. so i removed most of tmobiles and samsungs bloatware apps, such as device carbon, zipwhip, telenav, group texting, qwik video chat, twitter, myspace, swype, and maybe a few i cant remember. each time i deleted system apps, i went back to cwm and fixed permissions again. now so there is no confusion, i didnt fix permissions after deleting every single app. say i would delete five or six apps, when i was done deleting them all, i would fix permissions. the reason for this is that i found that after deleting system apps, the system would still have permssions stored for those apps, and i believe this caused system errors similar to registry errors in windows. so, after deleting most unneccessary system apps, i saw more improvements, but there was still a bit of buginess. i was looking for something on google one day when i ran across a forum for the samsung vibrant where a member had issues with the same buzzing and force closing i had experienced. it was a buzz, a pause, then buzz-buzz-buzz. another member revealed that there were three main causes of this issue, which were androids native gmail client, wifi, and the stock android browser. i dont use wifi, but i got rid of the android browser and gmail client. i installed a third party email client from the market called maildroid, and use opera mobile as my default browser. i havent had any more problems except with two apps. one is slacker radio which is embedded in the media room app. it froze my phone every time i tried to load it. not a big loss, since i dont use it. just cant delete it without deleting media room and i use media room as my music player. but it still works fine as long as i dont open slacker. the other one is media hub. also froze my phone every time i opened it. not a big loss there either since i download most of my music from free sites. i deleted it. the only time i have force closes is when in settings i accidentally hit drivesmart, and thats because i deleted the drivesmart app. so im on stock ui and no crashes, freezes, lags or force closes. been about a week since my last unexplained crash. this might not work for everyone, but it might be a start.

If any of this does help anyone out there who wants to stay on the stock rom, feel free to reply or hit the thanks button

This does help me, but I think I'll wait for the back to basics rom, see how that goes.
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oh yeah i gut all Samsung and t-mobile aps from my phone, but i use custom roms as well. I havn-t had a force-close in over a week and the last one i had was with the stock browser.
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gallary
browser
tmobile carbon
and all unused aps drivesmart ect.

I havent had a problem with gallery. I use it to view my pictures. the gallery on this phone is quite nice compared to my last phone.

yeah mine kept freezing, not sure why so i said enough is enough and i dont really use it too much

Good info, but can I make a request?
It is harder than you know what to read!
PLEASE edit the OP to have paragraphs!

Android's gallery is a joke. Download Quickpic.
I suggest PowerAmp over the stock music player.
Another source of issues is the TouchWiz launcher. Nix it.
That just leaves Google Maps. Unfortunately, there are no good alternatives...

I personally havent had any problems with any other apps. i like the stock apps that i actually use, such as gallery, the stock music player, google maps, and TouchWiz. A lot of people bash the TW launcher, but i really dont think its the problem. i dont have any problems with it at all. i have tried other launchers, but i end up ditching them because they are larger than the stock launcher and use more RAM. i avoid using 3rd party apps over stock apps unless absolutely necessary, as in the case of gmail and android browser. getting rid of those apps stopped the buzzing and force closing for me. the reason i avoid using 3rd party apps over stock apps is because they take up space and sometimes use more ram. the TW launcher is actually quite small compared to other launchers, being only a few kb in size where other launchers are on average 2 to 5 mb. the most recent launcher i tried was WP7 launcher, which imitates the windows 7 ui. i liked it, but google navigation froze in that launcher. back to stock launcher, and navigation worked fine again. i know that i personally dont have any problems with TW launcher, gallery, or the stock music player, and i like all of them.

Meh.
The gallery takes forever and depends on the media scanner. Quickpic starts up faster shuts completely down when it's finished.
As for memory, 3rd party launchers play very nice with the system and let go of their resources when the OS asks them to. Can't say the same thing for TouchWiz.
You'll also want to run Voodoo sound and the PowerVR plug in from Chainfire.
Of course, you're free to do any slow thing you want with your device. It just won't perform as well as it could.

you are completely free to have your own opinions. but in my experience, im not having problems with the stock apps. in fact, i reinstalled the stock browser and gmail and still no problems. my phone works fine for the way i use it. you may use your phone in different ways or for different things than i do, so 3rd party solutions may be necessary for you. im not having any problems with my phone, so they arent necessary for me. you keep saying oh you'll want to do this or you'll want to do that. maybe you need all these 3rd party apps because you dont know how to manage your stock apps. almost every time i am finished doing anything with my phone, i go to task manager, exit all apps, and hit clear memory. every couple of days, i clear my app cache. i use optimize android toolbox for that. i dont even reboot my phone on a daily basis, and still, no problems. no lags, freezes, force closes, crashes, or random reboots. not a single one. i would say thats top performance in my book. now, enough said.

i feel like you two are going at it, you both have your own opinions, i side with the stock apps being poorly written and potentially causing issues. Im using gallary again because i like how it pulls pics from online, but for the browser i use opera mini just because i like the layout better (no hate towards the stock one)
I remove every apk that is not needed for what i do with my phone, including blutooth and some others that ive discovered do not inhibit the functioning of the device. This is all because im just a huge nerd with OCD and like to play around with things and have them running as clutter free as possible. Remember guys this is why we all use android, so we have the freedom to customize the device to our own needs.

i just want to say one more thing. when i started this thread, the information in my OP wasnt intended to be a guide for getting this phone to peak performance or to make it the fastest or best that it could be. it was intended as a starting place for those who simply want to get their phone running PROPERLY with the stock rom/ui. PROPERLY means without any glitches, force closes, freezes, lags, crashes or random reboots. there is a big difference between PROPERLY and BEST. for instance, take a car that comes out of the factory and has some problems. you can correct the problems and get it running PROPERLY, or you can supe it up and get it running the BEST/FASTEST. some people are happy with something just working properly, while others want the best/fastest. so for anyone who wants info on getting this phone running the best/fastest, feel free to start your own thread. this thread is for info on getting this phone WORKING PROPERLY. THANK YOU.

Yeah ok. I just think discussion ia a great forum for innovation. If everyone just stayed on topic all the time no new ideals would ever have a medium to incubate in. I'm sorry if we've irritated you, it definitely wasn't my intention. Were all on the same team here.
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orange808 said:
Meh.
The gallery takes forever and depends on the media scanner. Quickpic starts up faster shuts completely down when it's finished.
As for memory, 3rd party launchers play very nice with the system and let go of their resources when the OS asks them to. Can't say the same thing for TouchWiz.
You'll also want to run Voodoo sound and the PowerVR plug in from Chainfire.
Of course, you're free to do any slow thing you want with your device. It just won't perform as well as it could.
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thats the only thing that irritated me. i repeatedly stated that certain stock apps were working fine for me. this guy repeatedly told me to replace the apps that i said were working fine for me. if you dont like those apps, fine. do whatever you want with your phone. dont keep insisting that i copy you. and the comment about doing any slow thing you want is what really irked me. i feel like that makes it sound like im an idiot for not doing what he tells me to do. i took it as disrespectful. i got no beef with anything or anyone else here.

if any of the apps that this guy insisted i replace were actually causing problems, i think i would still be having problems. especially touchwiz, which everyone thinks is so terrible, which isnt causing me any problems at all.

i think it only causes issues with memory, it doesnt manage it well. But i think you aid you close apps manually so it wouldnt be as bad.

Manually closing programs doesn't allow the garbage collector to do its job. Over time, small amounts of memory tied to hanging handles will add up and you will encounter issues.
Once again, it's your device. If you are happy, do what you like.

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i just want to say one more thing. when i started this thread, the information in my OP wasnt intended to be a guide for getting this phone to peak performance or to make it the fastest or best that it could be. it was intended as a starting place for those who simply want to get their phone running PROPERLY with the stock rom/ui. PROPERLY means without any glitches, force closes, freezes, lags, crashes or random reboots. there is a big difference between PROPERLY and BEST. for instance, take a car that comes out of the factory and has some problems. you can correct the problems and get it running PROPERLY, or you can supe it up and get it running the BEST/FASTEST. some people are happy with something just working properly, while others want the best/fastest. so for anyone who wants info on getting this phone running the best/fastest, feel free to start your own thread. this thread is for info on getting this phone WORKING PROPERLY. THANK YOU.
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so how does the performance compare to custom roms like gingerclone or glorious overdose? (I ask since I am considering buying a sidekick, and want to know how much tweaking i'll need to do)

okay orange808, if you want to continue insisting you're right, then fine, you're right. now drop it. as far as which custom rom is the best, i cant answer since i havent flashed a rom.

[Q] Massive keyboard lag with Dolphin browser

Hi guys, I'm posting this here as I can't seem to find anyone with the same problems as me and I am hoping someone here can help me.
Everytime I run Dolphin Browser (ver. 9.3.1), there is a MASSIVE keyboard lag whenever I want to enter anything in the address bar. The keyboard will only show up after a few seconds (ranging from 1-4 seconds) and when I enter the address, some alphabet inputs will be missing as it was not registered by Dolphin due to the lag. So for example, if I entered yahoo.com, only yo.com will be registered on the address bar, eventhough I typed yahoo.com.
General speed of loading the websites is not affected and is quite fast. It's only when there is a keyboard input involved, then it lags like hell.
I have tried tweaking my Infinity with System Tuner Pro to increase the memory limit of Dolphin browser but it doesn't seem to work. I also have Browser2Ram (as part of Cleanrom inheritance 3.3) but nothing seems to work.
Searching for similar problems faced by other owners of Inifinity also turned up empty so I hope someone can help me on this.
I have a rooted Asus TF700 running on Cleanrom inheritance 3.3 ODEX version, but I also experienced this problem when I was running my TF700 unrooted.
Please help! It's driving me crazy as I'm a big Dolphin fan!
Thanks a bunch!

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Hi guys, I'm posting this here as I can't seem to find anyone with the same problems as me and I am hoping someone here can help me.
Everytime I run Dolphin Browser (ver. 9.3.1), there is a MASSIVE keyboard lag whenever I want to enter anything in the address bar. The keyboard will only show up after a few seconds (ranging from 1-4 seconds) and when I enter the address, some alphabet inputs will be missing as it was not registered by Dolphin due to the lag. So for example, if I entered yahoo.com, only yo.com will be registered on the address bar, eventhough I typed yahoo.com.
General speed of loading the websites is not affected and is quite fast. It's only when there is a keyboard input involved, then it lags like hell.
I have tried tweaking my Infinity with System Tuner Pro to increase the memory limit of Dolphin browser but it doesn't seem to work. I also have Browser2Ram (as part of Cleanrom inheritance 3.3) but nothing seems to work.
Searching for similar problems faced by other owners of Inifinity also turned up empty so I hope someone can help me on this.
I have a rooted Asus TF700 running on Cleanrom inheritance 3.3 ODEX version, but I also experienced this problem when I was running my TF700 unrooted.
Please help! It's driving me crazy as I'm a big Dolphin fan!
Thanks a bunch!
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Well i'm facing the same on stock. So i guess its time to write to asus.

I have the same issue with Dolphin as well. I've had it stock and also with CROMI. I have switched to the stock browser which, with CROMI, is so lightning quick and lag free. I also like Dolphin, and still use it for some websites that work better with it or I need Dolphin's add-ons for, but mainly, I use stock and am very happy.
But, no, you are not alone with Dolphin lagging badly with our device.

Perfect on my S3. It is exactly as you say on my tf700.
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Odp: [Q] Massive keyboard lag with Dolphin browser
Finally someone else has the same problem as me. This is my #1 issue with everyday use of Infinity. Yes, I could switch to Boat or other brower. But I got used to Dolphin interface.
I wrote about the problem to Dolphin developers twice. They acknowledged it but did nothing about it.
The lag is probably related to the way they programmed Google search suggestions. Try disabling suggestions from Google in Dolphin preferences, the lag will be almost done. All other suggestions (history, bookmarks) will also be disabled.
The problems seems to be as follows. You type a letter. Dolphin looks for search suggestions, displays them, then reads another key, and so on. If many keys are in the buffer, it gets slower and slower. If you type really fast, the keyboard buffer overfills and some keystrokes are lost.
If you use onscreen keyboard, this problem does not occur. With the keyboard dock, you usually type faster. Passing the keystrokes through USB may also account to this. Correct me if I'm wrong.
To sum up: everyone who has this problem, please send a report to Dolphin developers (they have form on their web page). Maybe if more people will report, they will finally do something about it.

I would strongly suggest you guys to use stock. Its almost bug free and also fast enough. On mine it displays the content faster than dolphin and the page load is faster than dolphin. I have timed the loading of all the websites i frequently visit( yes I cleared all history, cache, etc. and also disabled pre loading) and dolphin took almost 5-10 seconds more than the stock browser to load up the pages. You can even try chrome. Its good after the latest update. I didn't try timing it but its better the previous version.

It has been brought up before that Dolphin is less optimized for tablets than it is for the smart phones. Might not be entirely the problem with the device.

Screen freezing while scrolling

Hi All, I have had three phone for the last 2 weeks. This week the phone has frozen at least 3/4 times a day while browsing. Generally happens when scrolling down, I use the Google Chrome browser. The only way to reactivate the screen is by pressing power button to turn off the screen and turning the screen back on again. I just hope it's not a hardware fault ? O just wondering if there a setting I need to change.

Chrome was having issues.
Try another browser like opera see if that changes anything

Mate, don't use Chrome. It is one of the worst browsers on Android. I recommend using the Brave browser or an older version of Firefox.

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Mate, don't use Chrome. It is one of the worst browsers on Android. I recommend using the Brave browser or an older version of Firefox.
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Thanks for your replies guys. I take it the concensus is not to use Chrome on Android phones ? Will try out Firefox for now as that seems to be a well known browser.

I was getting it loads on my XZ2 brand new X5II and gutted to still get it.
I've switched to DuckDuckGo browser now, pretty seamless so far.

Also, many websites, even the biggest ones, are poorly optimized for smartphones. Lots of ads or badly implemented scrips, lazyload etc. But most problems are usually caused by a browser.

I've had this issue too, but ironically with Brave, as frostitomik suggested to use instead of Chrome .
Quick fix for me is to use the task switcher soft key, but choose the same browser app again. It seems to unlock it.

Same here in different Apps. Never saw it on my other phones. I think it's a Sony issue.

I am using sony as well, but you could search on Google, people are experiencing the same problem on different phone models that could be dated back to 2019.
A different app is usually still using a chromium base browser, did you try firefox?
Tho, I found the freezing "app" problem would only occurred when u are browsing website with a relatively heavy load in images and videos, or a very long document.
My personal solution is simply pressing the overview button and going back to the browser.
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Same here in different Apps. Never saw it on my other phones. I think it's a Sony issue.
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Use Kiwi