[Q] Can I use FolderMount to move large APKs from /data/app/ ? - Shield Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Sorry if this has been asked before (I couldn't find it). Is it possible to use FolderMount (or another app, if so please direct me to it) to move large APKs from /data/app to the SD card? Some apps (I'm looking at you, many things I got from Humble Bundles) store all their data in the apk so I can't use FolderMount's easy ability to move the data and obb folders to move them. (And obviously I tried using the built in a2sd, but that doesn't work for everything.)
I tried it myself, but after I'd tried moving it (and mounting it in FM) either the app would crash or it wouldn't show up in the app list.

Slashee the Cow said:
Sorry if this has been asked before (I couldn't find it). Is it possible to use FolderMount (or another app, if so please direct me to it) to move large APKs from /data/app to the SD card? Some apps (I'm looking at you, many things I got from Humble Bundles) store all their data in the apk so I can't use FolderMount's easy ability to move the data and obb folders to move them. (And obviously I tried using the built in a2sd, but that doesn't work for everything.)
I tried it myself, but after I'd tried moving it (and mounting it in FM) either the app would crash or it wouldn't show up in the app list.
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I tried it myself on my older phone, but it didn't work. It broke the game, so my guess is that it isn't possible.

Work very well for me. I've downgraded my shield to Kitkat version. You must be root
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Works on CM12.1 also with an NTFS formated 64GB MicroSDHC .

I'm running stock Lollipop, with root. So maybe I'm just doing it wrong? Or doesn't work in Lollipop? How are you guys doing it, so I can see if that works for me?

I'm also in NTFS and I have a 64GB Samsung card
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Apps2sd native option

So, i can set this up to give you guys an option during rom flashing to have a Apps2sd native option during the flashing process. What it will do is while the rom is flashing in CWM, it will ask if you want all apps installed to sd or if you want them installed to internal memory. Would you guys want this included?
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this sounds great man... i like that idea.
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Isn't it quite dangerous installing apps to SD card by default? There are a lot of them that may create problems when running from SD card. Plus I found that some apps would not install to SD at all (Google Maps as far as I remember, and some others.) They can be moved to SD later, but direct installation to SD just fails.
This is only for aftermarket app installs. Either 3rd party or market.
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Google Maps or Youtube (another one that would refuse to install directly to SD) are actually aftermarket apps. When I was moving them to SD to clean up some internal storage I had to uninstall them first (with TitaniumBackup), then reinstall to phone memory from the market, and only then move to SD.
It would be neat to have a simple program that would switch the setInstallLocation on demand. I wish somebody would write such app.
I think that would be a great option for roms on the sgs4g.
I like this phone and it has great potential but internal storage/app management will always be an issue. It would be nice to automatically move third party apps to SD during setup. Most run fine from SD and the few that don't can be moved to internal easily enough after rom install.
Thanks Krylon for working on this btw...
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I think it is a great idea. Maybe making available an option where you can turn it off and on?
I don't think it's a good idea,i would like to be able to choose for myself which apps are installed where, some apps can be installed to sd card, but then you lose widget options.
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I think it's a fantastic idea
+1. Great idea!
wease said:
I don't think it's a good idea,i would like to be able to choose for myself which apps are installed where, some apps can be installed to sd card, but then you lose widget options.
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You could still just choose save to internal, then move the ones you want later manually. Or the other way around. Move all to external and move them back if you want.
So my vote is, yes please. ;-)
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Bl4ckpheniX said:
You could still just choose save to internal, then move the ones you want later manually. Or the other way around. Move all to external and move them back if you want.
So my vote is, yes please. ;-)
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+1. cant wait to get cwm back. My flashing addiction is getting to the point where not having it is about to cause me to have a complete meltdown. Lol
I think this is a great idea and for those of you that don't want this on your phone remember he said that this is only an option, he never said it was mandatory if he added the option.
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I would love this option. Just so I understand, I'm a little slow, would market still ask where we would like to install, and if so would the market think it was installing to the internal when it was actually installing to sd card. In other words would we still continue to choose to install to internal mem, but in actuality it is installing to sd. My brain hurts.
Long story short... yes, I would like that very much thank you.
As far as I understand the process, with setInstallLocation set to 2 all you programs will go the SD card by default. No questions asked. You'll have to move to phone manually the ones you don't want on SD.
Some programs will fail to install completely. Seems like all Google apps do that, at least for now. You'll have to revert back to default install location to install such apps.
golmar88 said:
I would love this option. Just so I understand, I'm a little slow, would market still ask where we would like to install, and if so would the market think it was installing to the internal when it was actually installing to sd card. In other words would we still continue to choose to install to internal mem, but in actuality it is installing to sd. My brain hurts.
Long story short... yes, I would like that very much thank you.
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"So, i can set this up to give you guys an option during rom flashing to have a Apps2sd native option during the flashing process. What it will do is while the rom is flashing in CWM, it will ask if you want all apps installed to sd or if you want them installed to internal memory. Would you guys want this included?" OP by Krylon
What this means is.
When you are in CWM recovery, and going to install a new ROM, CWM will ask you where you want the Apps to install. You can choose internal, or external SD. Then CWM will finish the install of the ROM placing the apps where you tell it. I am not sure which apps will have problems or not running from the external SD. But when it happens and if you run into problems with certain apk's on the external SD, you can just pull the apk and move it back to internal.
That is how I understand it anyways.
Oh, if that is all it is - where to place programs *during* ROM installation - it's perfectly fine then. I thought that during ROM flashing the option to install all apps afterwards would be preset either this or that way.
AntonX said:
Oh, if that is all it is - where to place programs *during* ROM installation - it's perfectly fine then. I thought that during ROM flashing the option to install all apps afterwards would be preset either this or that way.
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+1
I was thinking the same thing. erp de derp!
I would be curious to see/know how many apps would be rejected this way. Which would be more work, deleting and reinstalling X # of apps or moving X # of apps to the sd card. Still, either way my vote remains to have the option.
I second the motion. Definitely yes!

Low Disk Space Issue

Today, I tried installing an app and got an error message with no specifics. I looked in the /system/data folder and found that it was low on space. It says 1MB of 258MB free. I uninstalled a few apps and was able to install the app I wanted.
So, my question is how do I solve this problem for the long run.
I have Android 2.2 stock, rooted.
that doesn't sound right at all. the /system partition in small and it's in that range because it only requires there to be room for the rom which should be read only and never changes, there is very little extra room on the /system partition stock but that doesn't matter because you dont install new apps here to begin with and app data is stored in /data/data while apps go in /data/app.
the /data partition is 1gb or so and very hard to fill with apps, you can also move apps to the 14gb internal sd storage.
i dont know why you have a /system/data folder, i haven't run froyo in a while but that sounds wrong. i don't know why you are still on froyo but you should have no issues installing apps based on storage. there is a bug that was giving that error because of some settings in the rom that didn't agree with certain versions of the market though....
Sorry, I didn't provide correct info. I intended to say /system/app folder. It has APK files for all the apps. I also noticed that to install an app, I could just place it in that directory and it would be installed.
Any other questions/insights? I need HDMI and Bluetooth, hence no custom ROMs for me. I did install GB but found it to be little unstable. Has there bee. Any progress on this in recent times?
There's several ron's with bt & hdmi
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There's several ron's with bt & hdmi
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Thanks, I got ETHEREAL from jscott and works superb. I got back to custom ROMS, had never thought I will, but here I am. Issue has been fixed and what a piece of crap the stock ROM really was.

Moving apps

Is there a way to move apps from tab to extSdCard? My memory is getting full it says and I have a 32 gig card but can't find a way to move apps . Thanks
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Try app2sd or gl2sd or android assistant has this function and lots others all free in google play
Mohamed Selim
Moving App to ExtSdcard
Well, I recomend you to install this two app.
Clean Master: it has an app manager to move app to the extsdcard. This works only if the app have the data files in the directorie
Storage/sdcard0/android/data/. Like NFS- Most Wated. The good news is that the app let you know how many mb the app have and by one click you can move to the sd card, the bat news is that only works the way I told you unless they update the app.
Lidroid File Manager: which have a plugging to mount folders ( the plugging have to be installed from google or from inside the app ).
With this you can mount the Obb directory: Storage/sdcard0/android/Obb where many big games leave the data. With this I recomend you to manually copy the obb files in the extsdcard and paste it an a folder you will use as a SOURCE FOLDER, and erace it from obb folder before mount.
This app doesn't appears in the Play Store due to "Incompatibility with our Tablet" but you can find it in ( us. Lzfile. com) this together is the url I can't post outside links. Find what is to mount a folder in a post if you don't know.

Move single app to extsdcard

Hi everyone, I was wondering about the possibility to make a script app to sd as it is for instance in the Samsung galaxy ace. When you go in settings applications, in every app you have the option to manually move the app's data to the microsd in order to save space on internal storage. Right now I saw that devs made only radical scripts to change default installation folder to the external, but I think that the way I said would be better to get more space available. also here you can choose what app to move, extending effective space. Is it possible to get it on the note or not? Also on my ancient phone Xperia x10 it was possible to do it.
Seriously anyone?...
Try link to sd.
There is a thread for this in dev section. U need to be rooted though.
I understand the pain. I have space issue too... but dont want to root either...
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The problem is that I've already tried link2sd, made a partition in fat32 in extsdcard but it doesn't work, we need maybe something done, a script or something else, in the note.

[Q] Can't move apps with Link2SD

I have tried to move apps to sdcard with Link2SD and other similar apps. It fails and says that I can't move them because my device has a primary external storage which is emulated from the internal storage.
Here is a screenshot of the message
Howdy!
as far as I have found out (and been following this problem on and off since I got my plus a few months ago) there is no proper way to move apps to your SD card. Best solution (and the one I am using) is to partition your SD Card then use Link2SD to link apps on your SD. You can set it up to do so automatically for every new app you install. As for partitioning I found this guide the best since I'd never attempted it before but it works really well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2126363
Good luck and hope this helps a little!
Thanks a lot
lance2355 said:
Howdy!
as far as I have found out (and been following this problem on and off since I got my plus a few months ago) there is no proper way to move apps to your SD card. Best solution (and the one I am using) is to partition your SD Card then use Link2SD to link apps on your SD. You can set it up to do so automatically for every new app you install. As for partitioning I found this guide the best since I'd never attempted it before but it works really well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2126363
Good luck and hope this helps a little!
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Do we need to root phone for that?
If yes then what's the point of making partitions.
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fayez107 said:
Do we need to root phone for that?
If yes then what's the point of making partitions.
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Well, my phone was rooted anyway but I think Link2SD needs it. As to why exactly it needs to be partitioned I can only tell you that when my card wasn't partitioned as suggested in the guide I linked then Link2SD wouldn't even offer to link the apps. I am no expert as I pointed out but this was a solution that worked for me. It may well be someone else found something better that doesn't require partitioning. To my knowledge doing things this way requires root AND the partitioned SD card.
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Well, my phone was rooted anyway but I think Link2SD needs it. As to why exactly it needs to be partitioned I can only tell you that when my card wasn't partitioned as suggested in the guide I linked then Link2SD wouldn't even offer to link the apps. I am no expert as I pointed out but this was a solution that worked for me. It may well be someone else found something better that doesn't require partitioning. To my knowledge doing things this way requires root AND the partitioned SD card.
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Did you try Apps to SD? Ill be rooting very soon and see what happens. If none works then last stop would be to make partition.
Okay I did root my phone successfully. Still cant move apps. Now going to do this partition system. Hope it works !
fayez107 said:
Did you try Apps to SD? Ill be rooting very soon and see what happens. If none works then last stop would be to make partition.
Okay I did root my phone successfully. Still cant move apps. Now going to do this partition system. Hope it works !
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Yeah, I tried Apps to SD as well but without success. You get exactly the message as the OP said here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=42863865&postcount=2
Same goes for Link2SD however once you partitioned it at least offers you to link the apps. But like I said that only happened after I did the partitioning. Beforehand it would not even offer that.
I am not entirely sure what or why Samsung did what they did in kinda blocking the moving of apps to an external card but it it really blows considering that you only get a somewhat limited amount of storage to begin with.
lance2355 said:
Yeah, I tried Apps to SD as well but without success. You get exactly the message as the OP said here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=42863865&postcount=2
Same goes for Link2SD however once you partitioned it at least offers you to link the apps. But like I said that only happened after I did the partitioning. Beforehand it would not even offer that.
I am not entirely sure what or why Samsung did what they did in kinda blocking the moving of apps to an external card but it it really blows considering that you only get a somewhat limited amount of storage to begin with.
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Hello again brother. Same here. Before partitioning there was not any option to create link even.
I did the partitioning stuff did work. I can successfully transfer my apps into the ext2 partition i created. (Btw which partition format did you go with?)
How ever I believe folder mount is still a better option as it does not require you to create partitions and works directly such as you enter a brand new card without partition and move apps into card and then it links it. But the only drawback is you need to purchase the app :
fayez107 said:
Hello again brother. Same here. Before partitioning there was not any option to create link even.
I did the partitioning stuff did work. I can successfully transfer my apps into the ext2 partition i created. (Btw which partition format did you go with?)
How ever I believe folder mount is still a better option as it does not require you to create partitions and works directly such as you enter a brand new card without partition and move apps into card and then it links it. But the only drawback is you need to purchase the app :
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I used ext4 for my partition. And I hadn't heard of Folder Mount until you mentioned it. Will have to check it out. Can you actually move stuff if you use that?
lance2355 said:
I used ext4 for my partition. And I hadn't heard of Folder Mount until you mentioned it. Will have to check it out. Can you actually move stuff if you use that?
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Well ext4 didn't work for me idky though ext2 did and it worked. But creating partitions is pure junk and it would reduce the life and speed of your card (its something i believe) so I deleted the partitions and brought my card into original format.
And yes man Folder Mount is something we need ! It does exactly what both of us want. Simply move all the app data from internal memory to external memory and as soon as you move you have empty space on your internal storage and external storage is occupied. Its simple and very clear and easy to use. Just 3 clicks i believe and its done. And another good stuff is it will show you how much an app is occupying internal space and then moves it into SD card and also doesn't show important system apps to move as moving them creates problem.
There's a free version to try which would allow you to move 3 apps only and if you want more then buy the app for 2 Dollars.
Its developed by @madmack. Do check it out. The sad part for me is I dont have a credit card nor Paypal is available in my country
And i need this app badly !

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