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[Q] Keep TF or wait for Galaxy Tab?

With all the issues that seem to be plaguing the TF, would it be advantageous to wait for the Galaxy Tab 10.1? I was under the impression it would have a TW overlay, but an article I read today said it is a stock Android Experience Device.
Without factoring in the Dock, should I wait for the Tab?

Looking at google i/o special edition there was no sd slot or hdmi port on the tablet. I havent found any site that show it will come with the either. So, you are going to spend more for a tablet where you cant expand the space. Samsung will have issues too, minor or major we just dont know yet. Samsung record of release updates are not great. Samsung wil also have terga 2 like the TF. Pls screen vs ips screen, wow 10% brighter then ips. Imho, Tab 10.1 will be a failure.

nebrando said:
With all the issues that seem to be plaguing the TF, would it be advantageous to wait for the Galaxy Tab 10.1? I was under the impression it would have a TW overlay, but an article I read today said it is a stock Android Experience Device.
Without factoring in the Dock, should I wait for the Tab?
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I'm almost 100% certain that the GT2 will have the samsung UI, I can't remember the name now.
What I'm 100% certain is that the google IO Samsung tabs were only standard android HC.
Hope this helps,
rio

dazz87 said:
Looking at google i/o special edition there was no sd slot ... on the tablet.
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There should be a DS slot. Look at androidcommunity.com/samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-review-google-io-special-edition-20110511

according to http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxytab/
it will have samsung touchwiz ui.
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there may not be an sd slot on the limited edition,but it may has one on the final edition.
One of the videos shows that it has an sd card slot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBNXHk-9sTg
at 0:52,the guy says, "of course the micro sd card slot"...

Touchwizz is actually becoming good. At least better than stock android. Look at the mini app tray and additional widgets (which you are free to remove and use stock ones instead anyway).

http://gadgetian.com/10288/samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-specs-price-2/
Price & Availability
The Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 hit the markets on June 8th, and the 16GB version will cost you $499 and the 32GB goes for $599.
Read more: http://gadgetian.com/10288/samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-specs-price-2/#ixzz1M8srRLQc
Any price info. about the Dock?

Same price as iPad 2 if I remember correctly.
$499 16gb, $599 32gb.

Yeah everything is just a rumor still but it may very well have no SD card support and Samsung has been calling it touchwiz ux. I had my heart set in a galaxy tab but if they are not going to have SD card it HDMI or USB support i may just get a tansformer
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Yeah, it looks pretty nice but I must have a microsd slot and I really like mini hdmi. (Hooked it up last night to a HDTV and it looks really good!)
I can't believe I read that this is actually THINNER than the iPad 2. The iPad 2 is pretty dang thin.

The weight and thin factors had me very intrigued at first. Then I heard it would have Touchwiz which I hated on my phone when it was stock, so that pretty much turned me off from it. Then yesterday, I read somewhere it wasn't going to have TW. I see now that was just the Google IO version.
Thanks for the answers and I guess I will be sticking with the TF. I do like the fact that I can expand the storage capacity as well.

No matter what, TouchWiz should have the option to be disabled, that is a must for an Android device.
There should be some way of expanding/connecting the device to other devices, so there will be at least USB (possibly mini) or SD card slot (probably micro SD). But the problem with our guesses is that the design might still be fluid. Look at the TF, according to the reviews as of 1 month before I got mine, there were various buttons, and it was still running Froyo or something.
rio

I will get the galaxy 10.1 for sure. If I like it I will keep it, else it goes back or resold depending on the market. Same goes for every gadget I buy. One of the perks of shopping at bestbuy, use for 45 days then return for full refund.
I will also be getting the htc flyer whenever that gets released but most likely will use it for a week and give it back.

I'm also considering getting it as well. I like the TF, blows the Xoom away, but the thinness of the GT is really appealing. I also have an iPad 2 and love the way it feels in your hand, the thinness really makes a big difference. The TF feels slightly more "clunky" than the iPad 2, but not as bad as the Xoom.
Samsung does make nice screens, I'm sure the GT's will look good. I have some slight backlight bleed on my TF and it's starting to drive me nuts.
I was looking at the images on Samsung's website GT section, and the UI looks pretty much stock HC to me, perhaps they're using a stripped down version of TouchWiz on this (I hope). Also, on the image of the side view, it does appear to have a MicroSD slot there, but not sure, could be for the sim card?

tornadog said:
I will get the galaxy 10.1 for sure. If I like it I will keep it, else it goes back or resold depending on the market. Same goes for every gadget I buy. One of the perks of shopping at bestbuy, use for 45 days then return for full refund.
I will also be getting the htc flyer whenever that gets released but most likely will use it for a week and give it back.
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Oh **** I accidentally clicked thanks instead of quote.
http://consumerist.com/2011/02/why-does-best-buy-need-my-id-to-return-a-purchase.html

bleclair said:
Yeah, it looks pretty nice but I must have a microsd slot and I really like mini hdmi. (Hooked it up last night to a HDTV and it looks really good!)
I can't believe I read that this is actually THINNER than the iPad 2. The iPad 2 is pretty dang thin.
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So it will break even easier

Kermode said:
So it will break even easier
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Exactly. What bends more when u accidentally sit on it: a book or a playing card? Hope people get the analogy.

Don't over analyze
nebrando said:
With all the issues that seem to be plaguing the TF, would it be advantageous to wait for the Galaxy Tab 10.1? I was under the impression it would have a TW overlay, but an article I read today said it is a stock Android Experience Device.
Without factoring in the Dock, should I wait for the Tab?
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Don't over analyze and worry about if I wait will I get something better. In six months all of these devices will be replaced with something better. It is the nature of the business. Decide what your currents needs are and decide what best fits your current needs. Remember these are tools nothing more.

tornadog said:
I will get the galaxy 10.1 for sure. If I like it I will keep it, else it goes back or resold depending on the market. Same goes for every gadget I buy. One of the perks of shopping at bestbuy, use for 45 days then return for full refund.
I will also be getting the htc flyer whenever that gets released but most likely will use it for a week and give it back.
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Doesn,'t your Best Buy have a 15% restocking fee for returns?

tornadog said:
I will get the galaxy 10.1 for sure. If I like it I will keep it, else it goes back or resold depending on the market. Same goes for every gadget I buy. One of the perks of shopping at bestbuy, use for 45 days then return for full refund.
I will also be getting the htc flyer whenever that gets released but most likely will use it for a week and give it back.
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Do you do that to show off that you have the latest gadgets? Sure, technology changes quickly but that's not the reason for the return policy. I'm sure BB will figure it out soon.

[Discussion] Praise for the Note 3 even this far in 2014.

For real.
This 2013 phone, still, is one of the most powerful mobile devices in existence (we exclude stuff like Surface Pro 3 and recent Tegra K1 tablets ), even after the Note 4 and the iPhone 6 are out. The quad HD screen on the Note 4 is bound to slow down a little the device, even with the Snapdragon 805 on board (we have to test the Exynos as well, especially after it gets upgraded with Android L).
The 13 mpx camera does a marvelous job in broad daylight, low-light performance has been... well... bad, at least for me. xD But a decent camera overall.
A huge SWAPPABLE battery, we got a ZeroLemon 10 000 mAh, if we so much need juice while on the move.
The SD801 devices are not much of an upgrade because, if we so desire, thanks to the devs who do custom kernels, we can overclock the thing. 64 bit Android devices seem to be on the way, but until then...
Also, DAT AMOLED screen.
Also, DAT USB 3.0. I use it a lot.
So, probably the ONLY phone in existence more powerful is the OnePlus One, and it's not the perfect phone for the lack of microSD slot and the non-removable battery.
And with the Note 4 coming, the Note 3 will get cheaper! Not OnePlus One cheap, probably, but still.
Of course there are things to hate about the Note 3 (plasticplasticplastic, knox, it's damn ugly in white), I find the downsides acceptable compared to the many upsides of this device.
So, unless I'm posting in the wrong section and some mod gets me 1v1 somewhere privately to tell me "thread closed" in no uncertain terms, share your thoughts, please, and call me a Samsung fanboy if you will.

You've pretty much summed up the device, I really have Touchwiz and would wish for a built in Theme engine. I would love a theme like this, but refuse to flash CM or another ROM due to issues with NFC etc...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.steel89ita.paid.atomicgreen
Wanam can change the notification colours but not the entire device ui. Shame.
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Ryya said:
You've pretty much summed up the device, I really have Touchwiz and would wish for a built in Theme engine. I would love a theme like this, but refuse to flash CM or another ROM due to issues with NFC etc...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.steel89ita.paid.atomicgreen
Wanam can change the notification colours but not the entire device ui. Shame.
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...fun fact, we use the same ROM.
Also, I think I found somewhere another xposed mod that "unlocks" the S5's theme engine because it's baked in the Note 3's recent NG1 build. It's limited, icons and wallpapers only, but it's still a start.
AOSP is the prettiest thing that has graced my screen, but yes, I like the fully functioning camera and the S-Pen's functions intact.
We are sure to get official L on the Nope 3, but it will be in March at the earliest, or January with CM.

sirobelec said:
...fun fact, we use the same ROM.
Also, I think I found somewhere another xposed mod that "unlocks" the S5's theme engine because it's baked in the Note 3's recent NG1 build. It's limited, icons and wallpapers only, but it's still a start.
AOSP is the prettiest thing that has graced my screen, but yes, I like the fully functioning camera and the S-Pen's functions intact.
We are sure to get official L on the Nope 3, but it will be in March at the earliest, or January with CM.
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Where did you get this information? Google doesn't bring anything about this, neither the hidden ui in ng1 and neither the new s5 xposed module, only the old one.

First of all, Note 3 was among the most powerful phones with the most advanced hardware, at the time of introduction. For example, as far as I know it was the first phone in the world with 3GB RAM and probably no other phone has more even now. CPU is still very competitive, albeit little slower, probably until 64bit CPU/OS is introduced (that's when RAM will probably go past 3GB to support RAM hungry 64 bit system), GPU is also very competitive, especially when you consider newer faster GPU's need to support higher screen resolution. Personally I have nothing against plastic and the way N3 looks, especially that I wouldn't dare to use it without protective case and if somebody can't find case he likes, build or 3D print one yourself. Frankly I think using metal casing is a mistake as it may affect signal reception, especially in marginal cases.
But the fact is, if one, like me for example, wants and uses pen often, there is no other choice, except for Note series. Now, Note 4 is even faster and better than Note3, having pretty much top of the line hardware ATM, but probably not enough to make me upgrade. One thing I wish my Note3 had and would make me upgrade to Note4 was waterproofing, but otherwise I'm very happy with my Note3.
Funny thing is I just run Antutu benchmark today after updating to NF9, the only phone ranking faster than mine was HTC One M8t, yep I don't get it either, since it's pretty much stock rooted, not even overclocked.

lvnatic said:
Where did you get this information? Google doesn't bring anything about this, neither the hidden ui in ng1 and neither the new s5 xposed module, only the old one.
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Here's the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2722650

The Note 3 is the worst device (ironie )
See this
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THE BEST OF THE BEST !!!

I completely agree with this thread. I just made the switch from ios, and the note blows everything I've used out the water.

New Images Leaked.

here are some of the leaked images. looks good to me
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Not enough to tell any features.

if there isn't a 5.5+in screen thats not curved I'll wait for the note 6 to see if that's worth it.

Looks exactly like the S6.
Going to be a huge waste of money, in fact I regret spending $700 on my S6, since there is absolutely 0 dev support and the updates include 0 improvement.
My loyalty to Samsung will most probably end here with the S6, my next device is the next Nexus that will come out.
Samsung has still not released 6.0.1 for the international S6 yet.
A ton of HTC and Motorola devices have received the 6.0 update and us Samsung users are here with this 5.1.1 TouchWiz bullsh*t.

No Source from Samsung = No Love from Devs
murtaza02 said:
Looks exactly like the S6.
Going to be a huge waste of money, in fact I regret spending $700 on my S6, since there is absolutely 0 dev support and the updates include 0 improvement.
My loyalty to Samsung will most probably end here with the S6, my next device is the next Nexus that will come out.
Samsung has still not released 6.0.1 for the international S6 yet.
A ton of HTC and Motorola devices have received the 6.0 update and us Samsung users are here with this 5.1.1 TouchWiz bullsh*t.
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I think the lack of dev attention to the s6 was because they used the exynos processor and we know how bad Samsung is at releasing source so those phones had little support from the devs. I imagine since in the US at least they are going back to the snapdragon processor support will be good once again.

naruto.ninjakid said:
I think the lack of dev attention to the s6 was because they used the exynos processor and we know how bad Samsung is at releasing source so those phones had little support from the devs. I imagine since in the US at least they are going back to the snapdragon processor support will be good once again.
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Again, only to certain markets. So, US and a few other countries will get the SD820.
Pakistan usually gets the Exynos garbage while the rest of the world enjoys Snapdragon hardware.
Samsung creates an epic piece of hardware like the Exynos 7420 and restricts anyone from actually using it to it's full potential.
Like I said, last Samsung device hopefully. Not wasting any more money.
Tacky glass body and gimmicky camera won't fool me this time.
Nexus device it is.

murtaza02 said:
Again, only to certain markets. So, US and a few other countries will get the SD820.
Pakistan usually gets the Exynos garbage while the rest of the world enjoys Snapdragon hardware.
Samsung creates an epic piece of hardware like the Exynos 7420 and restricts anyone from actually using it to it's full potential.
Like I said, last Samsung device hopefully. Not wasting any more money.
Tacky glass body and gimmicky camera won't fool me this time.
Nexus device it is.
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Yeah, I feel you. Especially with other countries since they would rather go with exynos. Power to you. We need devices we can all be happy with and we know nexus devices always have good development.

From the limited information I've seen, the exynos s7 is scoring higher on performance than the sd820, don't have a link for you, it's out there.
But I agree about the lack of dev for exynos, I had a moto x 2, so I know how painful it is not to have lots of good ROMs.
I would consider 6p, but the screen is so big, I like 5.1
S7 with sd820 might be great for dev scene.

less dev support again.. samsung is really making this hard for developers

I am also looking forward for Samsung Galaxy S7, but it looks exactly same as S6 which I don't like. They could have changed it a little bit. Although specifications of this smartphones are really great.

justforgot said:
here are some of the leaked images. looks good to me
Source: Evleaks
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It seems designed fantastic

I stopped buying S series after S4 because the upgrades are incremental. I just bought two brand new S4 last month because they are now cheap and are better than the new mid range phones today.

any bug?
Ramondel said:
Not enough to tell any features.
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how ary you?
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Here is the latest clearest pic we have

murtaza02 said:
Again, only to certain markets. So, US and a few other countries will get the SD820.
Pakistan usually gets the Exynos garbage while the rest of the world enjoys Snapdragon hardware.
Samsung creates an epic piece of hardware like the Exynos 7420 and restricts anyone from actually using it to it's full potential.
Like I said, last Samsung device hopefully. Not wasting any more money.
Tacky glass body and gimmicky camera won't fool me this time.
Nexus device it is.
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Lollipop was rolled out in jan 2015 for moto G2.. and for my Note 3 neo lollipop was rooled in 2016 22 jan..
I took one complete year.. when marshmallow was rolling.. i got lollipop.. plus N3N dont have dev support dur to exynos too.. samsung is piece of ****.. hopefully i'll go for nexus or Moto next time

Got a chance to hold the S7 black this weekend. Very good solid feel. The curve on the back is like the Note 5 making it easier to hold. The home button has a better look and feel. Less of the chrome around the home button. You can easily see the 2.5D glass on the display. SD card slot for sure in the SIM slot (200GB support). IP68 water resistant, micro USB charging, 12MP 1.7f camera. Has the iPhone esq live motion picture taking, also front facing flash by making the display very bright white. Didn't see about the pressure sensitive screen. Don't think that's there. Anyway that's the S7. Would I buy it? For sure. Looked great.
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@saywhat4118 thanks for sharing your opinion! Could you tell how does it feel in hand, in terms of size? How easy it's to operate with one hand in compare to your A9? Additionaly, are there visible black bars on top and bottom when screen is off?

I was hoping for USB 3.0 or 3.1 via USB-C, but microUSB is better if it's 2.0. Would have been a nice bonus. Otherwise the S7 is shaping up to finally be a unit worthy of replacing my S4. S5 was too little of improvement; water resistance was nice, but increase in physical size for .1" bigger screen was pitiful. S6 losing both SD & removable battery was just too compromised. I'll never be happy about a sealed battery in any device. The G5 looks like it'll be the only flagship with removable battery, but for me it's too large & I can't stand the button arrangement. I will, however, not buy the S7 until I see how the curved glass back stands up to impacts. I can't stand using a case & the S4 polycarbonate body has proven very tough over almost 3 years.

Mefa2 said:
@saywhat4118 thanks for sharing your opinion! Could you tell how does it feel in hand, in terms of size? How easy it's to operate with one hand in compare to your A9? Additionaly, are there visible black bars on top and bottom when screen is off?
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Didn't see any black bars you speak of. I did see the always on display. It tells time and notifications count on an all black screen.
In terms of in hand feel, I thought it felt great. Definitely one hand operable.
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Thanks for reply! I'm glad it's one hand operable, because it's so important for me. I was using "always on display" on OG Moto X and I have great memories about it, so it is so good we will see that feature in Samsung flagship.

Upgrade from Galaxy S6 to S7 worth it?

I'm considering upgrading from my current 64 GB Galaxy S6, which I love, to the S7 or perhaps even the S7 edge (although I'm not quite sure the curved screen is worth the extra money to me). Has anyone already gone that route? How are you liking your S7 compared to your S6? How does the S7 camera hold up compared to the S6 camera? (I know that the reviews are generally favorable, but it would be good to hear from someone who's used them both as their everyday phone.)
Will the slower SD card in the S7 affect the user experience compared to the faster internal storage of my current S6?
I can upgrade to S7 using a new two-year plan from work, so I'd be paying only $199, and I can easily sell my current S6 to come out ahead, even with a case and SD card.
Should I make the jump?
Thanks for your feedback!
--Ron

dutch_in_seattle said:
I'm considering upgrading from my current 64 GB Galaxy S6, which I love, to the S7 or perhaps even the S7 edge (although I'm not quite sure the curved screen is worth the extra money to me). Has anyone already gone that route? How are you liking your S7 compared to your S6? How does the S7 camera hold up compared to the S6 camera? (I know that the reviews are generally favorable, but it would be good to hear from someone who's used them both as their everyday phone.)
Will the slower SD card in the S7 affect the user experience compared to the faster internal storage of my current S6?
I can upgrade to S7 using a new two-year plan from work, so I'd be paying only $199, and I can easily sell my current S6 to come out ahead, even with a case and SD card.
Should I make the jump?
Thanks for your feedback!
--Ron
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Hi. Since nobody answered yet i'm going to share my thoughts. I'm coming from an s6e and got a s7e. The screen is a bit better (a bit brighter for my eyes) and bigger. Even if it's bigger as a phone it doesn't feel that large....fits great in the hand.
Camera is better overall. The s6 has 16mpx so you'll have a bit more detail in good light but everywhere else the s7 is better. (Dynamic range and colour accuracy)
See the photos. The one 4:3 is the s7edge.
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The left is s6e and the right s7e
I'm not using an sd card yet but plannig to so i don't have anything on that. Did i mention the battery? 8.5 - 9 hours of SOT + 20h standby.... my s6 was barely doing 4.5h of sot and 16h of stby.
The only thing i'm missing is the infrared blaster.
I would make the jump without hesitation. The s7e is a great phone.
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I had the S6 for about a month and then switched to the S7. The S6 is a nice phone with good specs, but the S7 is even better. It has a better feel in the hand (rounded back), the camera is flat to the back, the home button has way better feeling and quality (no chatter). MicroSD is a good thing, I use a 32GB card for pictures, videos and music. And finally a phone that I can use while in the bathtub without worries. No complains about the cameras of both devices, I think the S7 is better on most situations. With the battery of the S6 I reached barely 2 days of standby with moderate use, with the S7 these 2 days are no problem, I reached 3 full days at best. So this is an improvement too. My advice: If you can switch with, do it.

I came from the s6. The s7 is by far a better phone. Battery life if better, its alot smoother and responsive. I would totally make the jump if I were you.

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Totally worth it. Battery is great and SD Slot and water resistance is awesome.
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dutch_in_seattle said:
I'm considering upgrading from my current 64 GB Galaxy S6, which I love, to the S7 or perhaps even the S7 edge (although I'm not quite sure the curved screen is worth the extra money to me). Has anyone already gone that route? How are you liking your S7 compared to your S6? How does the S7 camera hold up compared to the S6 camera? (I know that the reviews are generally favorable, but it would be good to hear from someone who's used them both as their everyday phone.)
Will the slower SD card in the S7 affect the user experience compared to the faster internal storage of my current S6?
I can upgrade to S7 using a new two-year plan from work, so I'd be paying only $199, and I can easily sell my current S6 to come out ahead, even with a case and SD card.
Should I make the jump?
Thanks for your feedback!
--Ron
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it all comes down to cost. If you can get it I don't see any reason to wait any longer. I sold my s6 edge plus for 700 dollars and got the s7 edge on contract for 200. Was well worth the upgrade

Never going back to 6. I'm not sure about the edge as well and for the price I didn't want to risk being unhappy with a very expensive device.
Pros and improvements
Battery, performance, home button, fingerprint reader, camera, feel/grip, external storage, water proof
Cons
Finding a good glass screen protector
Loss of IR blaster

I came from a Note 5 and I think the S7 is far superior, and the Note 5 beats the S6.
My geekbench 3 scores for my 820 S7 are 2343 single and 5470 multi, those are laptop numbers and crush last years ~1400 single core for the S6.
I would upgrade for the battery alone.
As much as I like to buy things that last, it seems with flagship phones that keep 70% of their resale value for 12 months, the economics are still pretty favorable for yearly upgrades.

Well, I made the jump and upgraded from my S6 to the S7. I sold the S6 on Craig's List, which easily paid for the upgrade plus a nice case and a 128 GB SD card.
I'm really glad I upgraded. I loved my S6, but the S7 is better in every way: zippy performance with absolutely no lag, an amazing camera (much better than the S6 camera, which was already great), great battery life, water resistance---overall a great, great upgrade. I'm loving my S7.
If you're contemplating the same thing, upgrade to the S7. You won't regret it for a second!
--Ron

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Thank You, Moto XDA Community!

This is my stop. I've gone back to the Note 5. It was an interesting ride on this MXPE boat and I learned a lot about how devices not named "Samsung" require different tools and methods to enjoy the root/ROM life. I just really underestimated how dependent I was on that S-Pen, AMOLED and the general Samsung ecosystem. Turns out I could only stay away from it for only a month before I started to get the shakes, LOL!.
Anyway, my thanks to everyone here for their amazing contributions to this community and their friendliness. You folks are steady. My personal gratitude to @acejavelin who was particularly helpful during my time on this device.
See y'all on the other side!
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Sailor Gerry said:
This is my stop. I've gone back to the Note 5. It was an interesting ride on this MXPE boat and I learned a lot about how devices not named "Samsung" require different tools and methods to enjoy the root/ROM life. I just really underestimated how dependent I was on that S-Pen, AMOLED and the general Samsung ecosystem. Turns out I could only stay away from it for only a month before I started to get the shakes, LOL!.
Anyway, my thanks to everyone here for their amazing contributions to this community and their friendliness. You folks are steady. My personal gratitude to @acejavelin who was particularly helpful during my time on this device.
See y'all on the other side!
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@acejavelin
He has helped everyone...

Thank you... Come back anytime.

Good luck over there as I will not likely join you. I think Samsung delivers products with some "nifty" features and I don't fault anyone who likes it. For me, with more competition in the hardware markets (Huawei, OnePlus, etc have come into the fold) there are more flagships at lower costs. True that you lose S-Pen and the Samsung tweaks, but I am not enamoured with either. Just can't justify paying more for software tweaks when I can root and get what I want through Xposed. I want a functional phone that can handle my demands and still let me play around a little bit.

aybarrap1 said:
True that you lose S-Pen and the Samsung tweaks, but I am not enamoured with either. Just can't justify paying more for software tweaks when I can root and get what I want through Xposed. I want a functional phone that can handle my demands and still let me play around a little bit.
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I can appreciate that but personally I'm paying for the combo of the hardware and software (because it's so easy to root and mod). The hardware being a good solid base to tweak the software to my liking. So between the Note hardware (build, AMOLED, S-Pen, Camera, physical home button, capacitive buttons, LED indicator), Nova Launcher Prime, root, xposed I'm happy again. All that wrapped up together is what I pay for.
The other newcomers in the mid-range to high end devices are certainly amazing choices and I can appreciate their features but with them it's getting something and losing something across the board instead of getting everything I want on one platform (personal taste) so that's why I'm going to remain on the Note series until the planet is dead. I was curious about other platforms and played around with them only to realize for me the grass was certainly not greener.
Thanks for the feedback and your well wishes! You guys are awesome!

Sailor Gerry said:
I can appreciate that but personally I'm paying for the combo of the hardware and software (because it's so easy to root and mod). The hardware being a good solid base to tweak the software to my liking. So between the Note hardware (build, AMOLED, S-Pen, Camera, physical home button, capacitive buttons, LED indicator), Nova Launcher Prime, root, xposed I'm happy again. All that wrapped up together is what I pay for.
The other newcomers in the mid-range to high end devices are certainly amazing choices and I can appreciate their features but with them it's getting something and losing something across the board instead of getting everything I want on one platform (personal taste) so that's why I'm going to remain on the Note series until the planet is dead. I was curious about other platforms and played around with them only to realize for me the grass was certainly not greener.
Thanks for the feedback and your well wishes! You guys are awesome!
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Very true. I'm just not a fan of TouchWiz nor some of Samsung's implementations. My wife loves those tweaks however so to each their own. I personally like the vanilla look and keeping things simple

aybarrap1 said:
Very true. I'm just not a fan of TouchWiz nor some of Samsung's implementations. My wife loves those tweaks however so to each their own. I personally like the vanilla look and keeping things simple
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There really is something to be said for vanilla Android, and I'm periodically reminded of that every time I start to sour on the MXPE. You can get this phone for $200-250 retail nowadays, and yet it still - in my experience - outperforms most skinned 2016 flagships (I'm looking at you, Samsung) in real-world day-to-day usage. Swiping through homescreens and the app drawer, switching between recent apps, that kind of thing - MXPE is still flawless and snappy, where high-dollar flagships like the S7 Edge can choke at times.
Not only that, but I've had zero software issues or bugs of note in my entire 14 months owning MXPEs as my daily driver. My previous two phones - Samsung and HTC - were buggy messes after their first OTA updates, to the point that CM became preferable even from a reliability standpoint.
I value hardware and specs a lot, but I will never own another phone that doesn't run vanilla Android out of the box, period. The 6P and Pixel XL are the *only* upgrade paths I'll consider, and since neither are enough of an upgrade relative to the price jump, I'll just wait til next year.

ominousnimbus said:
There really is something to be said for vanilla Android, and I'm periodically reminded of that every time I start to sour on the MXPE. You can get this phone for $200-250 retail nowadays, and yet it still - in my experience - outperforms most skinned 2016 flagships (I'm looking at you, Samsung) in real-world day-to-day usage. Swiping through homescreens and the app drawer, switching between recent apps, that kind of thing - MXPE is still flawless and snappy, where high-dollar flagships like the S7 Edge can choke at times.
Not only that, but I've had zero software issues or bugs of note in my entire 14 months owning MXPEs as my daily driver. My previous two phones - Samsung and HTC - were buggy messes after their first OTA updates, to the point that CM became preferable even from a reliability standpoint.
I value hardware and specs a lot, but I will never own another phone that doesn't run vanilla Android out of the box, period. The 6P and Pixel XL are the *only* upgrade paths I'll consider, and since neither are enough of an upgrade relative to the price jump, I'll just wait til next year.
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I guess between the launchers and the stock modified ROMs I've used on all my Note phones I've been lucky never to experience that kind of thing. Honestly, this Note 5 is snappy for me and gives me no lag issues whatsoever. Like they say, to each their own. Horses for courses and all that.