Hey everyone let me start off by saying if this has been reposed I did a search but could not get a "how-to" on the process
So i recently got a new phone and i have my old HTC one m8, my best friend is stuck in the stone age with a very old smart phone so i said "lets make his day". Before i do though i have some questions he uses straight talk as a carrier and since the VZW htc one m8's are primary CDMA but also have a SIM card and can run off of GSM towers (yes they can only use 3g). Is it possible to run this phone off of straight talks network if so where would i start?
I guess my main questions are:
Do i need to flash a AT&T rom?
even though its a vzw phone do i need to flash new radios?
do i need to alter my CID?
The phone is S-offed and rooted!
My bad if this is a poorly constructed thread, just needed to ask!
It is possible to run through straight-talk (i did a lot of dev work on st earliest androids) you need to have unlocked devices and get the byop SIM card for att. Not sure what size SIM these phones take.
Also... St has no network they just lease tower usage.
Not sure about the Rom though... Never done a Verizon to att switch.
Last edit... Your data cap is far from unlimited and they're not cool with tethering. They claim unlimited but at 2gb I believe they start throttling bad and are known to cut data and service for habitual offenders *I've read but not seen*(iirc)
I've been off st/net10 for a long time so their practices could have changed. I would advise you not to go st but that's just my opinion.
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TheGameDNA said:
Hey everyone let me start off by saying if this has been reposed I did a search but could not get a "how-to" on the process
So i recently got a new phone and i have my old HTC one m8, my best friend is stuck in the stone age with a very old smart phone so i said "lets make his day". Before i do though i have some questions he uses straight talk as a carrier and since the VZW htc one m8's are primary CDMA but also have a SIM card and can run off of GSM towers (yes they can only use 3g). Is it possible to run this phone off of straight talks network if so where would i start?
I guess my main questions are:
Do i need to flash a AT&T rom?
even though its a vzw phone do i need to flash new radios?
do i need to alter my CID?
The phone is S-offed and rooted!
My bad if this is a poorly constructed thread, just needed to ask!
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You can get the straight talk verizon sim kit and pop it in your verizon m8 and your up and running, it will use verizon towers everything the same just you will have a 5mb cap on your data speed but you will get verizon LTE data and with st verizon you will get 3 full gb's of LTE data for $45 a month unl talk & text.
If you try to use at&t you will not get LTE data only hspa which hspa can go from I believe 4mb's to 12 mb's download speed. Your better off getting the st verizon sim kit and run verizon through st.
M9guy said:
You can get the straight talk verizon sim kit and pop it in your verizon m8 and your up and running, it will use verizon towers everything the same just you will have a 5mb cap on your data speed but you will get verizon LTE data and with st verizon you will get 3 full gb's of LTE data for $45 a month unl talk & text.
If you try to use at&t you will not get LTE data only hspa which hspa can go from I believe 4mb's to 12 mb's download speed. Your better off getting the st verizon sim kit and run verizon through st.
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He wants to run on at&t. He was talking about the boosted att service at his work.
Edit: or maybe I've lost my mind
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Thanks for everyone who answered, i bought the sim card pack. i put in the verizon sim card i did get signal but no data and couldnt make a call. anyone know why that might be?
jcole20 said:
He wants to run on at&t. He was talking about the boosted att service at his work.
Edit: or maybe I've lost my mind
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He mentioned that yes but I also mentioned that he would not get at&t LTE data on his verizon m8 that he would most likely only get hspa data speeds using at&t. People have worked hard getting a verizon m8 to get LTE data on tmobile some with success but most say they have to keep toggling air plane mode to keep the tmobile LTE data working, and there are very little far fewer success stories of people even getting that far with at&t LTE data on a verizon m8.
Basically the best thing is either run the straight talk verizon LTE sim card in the verizon m8 or sell off the verizon m8 and get an at&t one or a tmobile one and even then you can convert it to a dev edition and get updates faster directly from htc.
No one has figured out a way to convert a verizon m8 to a dev edition even though the verizon m8 is a world phone with cdma and gsm both, for some reason you cant because of the cdma side.
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TheGameDNA said:
Thanks for everyone who answered, i bought the sim card pack. i put in the verizon sim card i did get signal but no data and couldnt make a call. anyone know why that might be?
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I"am running my verizon m8 on straight talk verizon service and mine works great. Does your verizon m8's imei show clean for activation with verizon ? Because if your imei is blacklisted with verizon it wont work or may for a while until their system picks it up and locks out your sim card because of it.
Its really just as simple as popping the st verizon sim in and run with it, unless your not fully activated with straight talk ? If you ported your number in it can take a day or so even and if the port has issues it may not finish until you call straight talk about it.
Any questions just ask as I have experience with straight talk and my m8 works great on it.
The whole 1-7 days on a port is a claim by them they generally stick to. Though 95% of carriers do it in 24-48hrs tops.. twice with net10 I had to finally just get a new number to get service (which included buying another unlimited card). I'm not against st/net10/AmericanMovil I just have had too many experiences like the above trying to work with their customer service.
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well the full story is i got a nexus 6 still had my htc one m8 thought i would give it to my friend, i popped the verizon sim card in and tried to register it but on straight talks website it informs me that it is not a compatible device, so before my friend proceeds in adding minutes to this new sim card he wants to make sure it will work.
jcole20 said:
The whole 1-7 days on a port is a claim by them they generally stick to. Though 95% of carriers do it in 24-48hrs tops.. twice with net10 I had to finally just get a new number to get service (which included buying another unlimited card). I'm not against st/net10/AmericanMovil I just have had too many experiences like the above trying to work with their customer service.
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Oh they tried that crap with me and I didnt take no for an answer I got through to a supervisor and I explained either they restore my 30 days of unlimited service or I file a charge back with my credit card company and they changed their tune and credited my account.
They get away with doing that too many times you can also tell them you will file a complaint with the better business bureau, or even talk about turning them in for internet fraud because it is a pure case of fraud when they wont give you the service that you paid for pure and simple.
I have ported numbers to straight talk 4 or 5 times over the years and it usually took mine less than a day to go through. Many times the problem can be the wrong account number as most people think their phone number is their account number when porting to another carrier and 98% of the time its not your account number you always have to call your cell provider and ask for your account number they like it that way because when you ask for your account number they know why your asking for it and they can try to talk you out of switching to another carrier.
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TheGameDNA said:
well the full story is i got a nexus 6 still had my htc one m8 thought i would give it to my friend, i popped the verizon sim card in and tried to register it but on straight talks website it informs me that it is not a compatible device, so before my friend proceeds in adding minutes to this new sim card he wants to make sure it will work.
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Did you put the imei number in on the straight talk web site ? Because their web site will tell you if its ready for activation or if its elgible for activation. You can also check your imei on one of the free imei checker web sites and it will show the status of your imei number as far as being ready for activation.
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Oh they tried that crap with me and I didnt take no for an answer I got through to a supervisor and I explained either they restore my 30 days of unlimited service or I file a charge back with my credit card company and they changed their tune and credited my account.
They get away with doing that too many times you can also tell them you will file a complaint with the better business bureau, or even talk about turning them in for internet fraud because it is a pure case of fraud when they wont give you the service that you paid for pure and simple.
I have ported numbers to straight talk 4 or 5 times over the years and it usually took mine less than a day to go through. Many times the problem can be the wrong account number as most people think their phone number is their account number when porting to another carrier and 98% of the time its not your account number you always have to call your cell provider and ask for your account number they like it that way because when you ask for your account number they know why your asking for it and they can try to talk you out of switching to another carrier.
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Did you put the imei number in on the straight talk web site ? Because their web site will tell you if its ready for activation or if its elgible for activation. You can also check your imei on one of the free imei checker web sites and it will show the status of your imei number as far as being ready for activation.
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Yeah... I spent 9 days and probably 30 phone calls talking to everyone I could get to including supervisors before I finally gave up out of frustration and just bought a new card (2 different occasions 9 days total). What I've found is their biggest issue is with Sprint numbers. At&t and tmobile seem to port easier. I've never worked with Verizon through st/net10.
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Did you put the imei number in on the straight talk web site ? Because their web site will tell you if its ready for activation or if its elgible for activation. You can also check your imei on one of the free imei checker web sites and it will show the status of your imei number as far as being ready for activation.[/QUOTE]
I did and my IMEI is clean and not blacklsited, when i go to straight talks website it says "Unfortunately, your phone is not eligible for the Bring Your Own Phone program. The good news is that Straight Talk has a large selection of phones from leading manufacturers. Find a phone in-store or online that best fits your needs." the steps i went though is. 1: clicked check your phones compatibility 2: picked the red other carrier option 3: when a pop up says " is your phone a unlocked GSM phone" i picked no, and thus got this message.
Thanks everyone for helping me out again =D
jcole20 said:
Yeah... I spent 9 days and probably 30 phone calls talking to everyone I could get to including supervisors before I finally gave up out of frustration and just bought a new card (2 different occasions 9 days total). What I've found is their biggest issue is with Sprint numbers. At&t and tmobile seem to port easier. I've never worked with Verizon through st/net10.
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You can also activate your sim in another verizon phone then put it in the m8 or just use another clean verizon imei to order the service with. Actually straight talk is easy to port to, now porting out of them now that is a real pain and takes longer. Straight talk is not a lot of fun to deal with but if you get it set up your free and clear and shouldnt have any further issues.
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TheGameDNA said:
Did you put the imei number in on the straight talk web site ? Because their web site will tell you if its ready for activation or if its elgible for activation. You can also check your imei on one of the free imei checker web sites and it will show the status of your imei number as far as being ready for activation.
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I did and my IMEI is clean and not blacklsited, when i go to straight talks website it says "Unfortunately, your phone is not eligible for the Bring Your Own Phone program. The good news is that Straight Talk has a large selection of phones from leading manufacturers. Find a phone in-store or online that best fits your needs." the steps i went though is. 1: clicked check your phones compatibility 2: picked the red other carrier option 3: when a pop up says " is your phone a unlocked GSM phone" i picked no, and thus got this message.
Thanks everyone for helping me out again =D[/QUOTE]
Do you have a friend that has a verizon phone that takes a nano sim ? If so just use their imei number to order the sim kit from straight talk it wont matter because that is just a verification to make sure your phone will work but I assure you the verizon m8 will work with the straight talk verizon sim cards.
Another thing you could do is just buy the st verizon sim card kit off ebay or amazon then just open the account on the st web site and activate your sim card number adding it to your new st account.
I appreciate the response but I wasnt the one having issues I was simply explaining my experience and putting the SIM in a different device won't help port a number. St May have gotten better but ime over two years of their android service it's best to just change your number. Outside of porting I've never had issues with them.
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Hey guys wondering if someone else is in the Pacific Northwest area that is on Simple Mobile with the Inspire. What I would like to know is there any better radios for the inspire that youve noticed any change in signal reception or anything than the stock radio.
Army_Spec_Ops said:
Hey guys wondering if someone else is in the Pacific Northwest area that is on Simple Mobile with the Inspire. What I would like to know is there any better radios for the inspire that youve noticed any change in signal reception or anything than the stock radio.
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search around a bit. radio is subjective, two people with the same phone and same service in the same room will get different results with radios. best thing is try a few out and see if any are better for you.
Simple mobile uses tmobile bands therefore you only will get edge speeds, try the Att go phone sim from Walmart you'll get great speeds and maybe straight talk
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The one issue with GoPhone is that if the SIM has been activated in a different phone, and less than 6 months have passed since it was activated, you will likely get an IMEI locked message. This doesn't mean there is any issue with the Inspire, simply that the GoPhone SIM is locked to the IMEI of the phone it was activated in.
I use red pocket mobile. In northern cali. Runs on ATT hspa plus. Not bad no issues. T mobile doesn't offer a 3g plan. Red pocket is 50-60. Might want to look into it.
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vwood2121 said:
Simple mobile uses tmobile bands therefore you only will get edge speeds, try the Att go phone sim from Walmart you'll get great speeds and maybe straight talk
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From what I've heard straight talk is 45 a month and it unlimited
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bhigham said:
The one issue with GoPhone is that if the SIM has been activated in a different phone, and less than 6 months have passed since it was activated, you will likely get an IMEI locked message. This doesn't mean there is any issue with the Inspire, simply that the GoPhone SIM is locked to the IMEI of the phone it was activated in.
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The six month policy is for unlocking the phone to other carriers. you have it backwards, my friend. If you call them and tell them that you are changing phones because the one it was activated on was damaged or non functional anymore, they will send a code to the phone to unlock the SIM. I think they can only do that for a SIM that is locked to an Android. If it was activated on a non-smart phone, you can go to any AT&T store and tell them you want to change phones and they will do it.
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The six month policy is for unlocking the phone to other carriers. you have it backwards, my friend. If you call them and tell them that you are changing phones because the one it was activated on was damaged or non functional anymore, they will send a code to the phone to unlock the SIM. I think they can only do that for a SIM that is locked to an Android. If it was activated on a non-smart phone, you can go to any AT&T store and tell them you want to change phones and they will do it.
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Not sure what you found to be incorrect in my statement. I never claimed the gophone sim couldn't be unlocked to be used in the inspire, just that it is locked by default to the phone that it is activated in. Also, though what you say is true about being able to get it changed, by default AT&T personnel don't seem to be able to diagnose the problem, when you give them the error message. A friend of mine had this issue when he tried to use a gophone sim in a nokia smartphone, and after going to the AT&T store, calling them up, etc, he asked me and I told him his SIM was probably locked to the phone it was activated in. Once he knew this, he called, and they unlocked it. However, neither the store nor customer service was able to help him, until he told them what the problem was. I also picked up the inspire I am using now for cheap, because the seller tried putting a gophone sim in it, and it came up with an "IMEI Locked" message. He assumed there was a problem with the phone, and AT&T customer service was unable to help him. Knowing the issue with GoPhone sims, I bought the phone, and have had no issues with it. So, though what you say is true, you have to know about the gophone simlock issue, in order to get it resolved.
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Hello,
I'm coming from a Nexus 4, and have never had an LTE phone on my AT&T account before. I've read that since AT&T doesn't have Nexus 5 in their system, that it will be a hassle for them to activate LTE through the phone. I can't really find any concrete answers or info, so I figured I'd stop by here and see if anyone has any ideas?
Does AT&T have to activate LTE on their end for it to work? Or can I just adjust my APN once I get the phone?
Has anyone had any issues with this at all? How did you get around it?
Thanks in advance!
I would like to know too... Im thinking about switching over my corporate account from VZW to ATT and I ordered a Nexus 5 to try out ATT coverage in my area first. I was going to head into the ATT store tomorrow, now Im worried I won't be able to get it setup (Im not familiar with how ATT works). Do I need to get a IMEI from a phone in the store and give to them? I don't get my N5 until tomorrow night and I was planning on going the store tomorrow morning and getting either Gophone or shared plan SIM setup so I can pop it in when the phone arrives. Will they need an IMEI to even get me an account activated?
If they need an IMEI at activation, would it matter if I didn't have the device in front of me, like if I tell them I ordered a S4 and gave them a IMEI from one? Do I need to find someone on ATT to give me their IMEI and tell them at the store I have it ordered? Sorry if these request are way off based on how it actually works, but I want to be able to test out my N5 tomorrow night! Thanks for any help you can give me..
EDIT: In the ATT world, would It be considered shady for me to tell them all this info? For instance if I told the salesmen this problem and asked if they could use an IMEI off one of their phones?
maniamania said:
Hello,
I'm coming from a Nexus 4, and have never had an LTE phone on my AT&T account before. I've read that since AT&T doesn't have Nexus 5 in their system, that it will be a hassle for them to activate LTE through the phone. I can't really find any concrete answers or info, so I figured I'd stop by here and see if anyone has any ideas?
Does AT&T have to activate LTE on their end for it to work? Or can I just adjust my APN once I get the phone?
Has anyone had any issues with this at all? How did you get around it?
Thanks in advance!
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I'm assuming that this will work similar to how it worked for the N4 and enabling HSPA+ on AT&T.
You will need an LTE plan added to your account. It won't cost more, but the account needs to enable the LTE service. In order to do this, I believe AT&T will need an IMEI. Since the IMEI will not be recognized, then you need to get another AT&T LTE device's IMEI code. Maybe a friend? I know some people would copy it off a demo device in the store.
Good luck.
FWIW: I put my LTE sim in the phone and everything was autoenabled correctly. This was better than with the N4 where it autoenabled wrong, and I had to change the settings.
I'll clarify this, AT&T has different data plans. They have all their data plans for 3g phone (3g data unlimited), and all their 4g data plans. You can not get 4g unless your data plan has been switched to the 4g version. You can keep your unlimited plans with this. Just call and ask them to switch your data plan to the lte version.
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A.VOID said:
I'm assuming that this will work similar to how it worked for the N4 and enabling HSPA+ on AT&T.
You will need an LTE plan added to your account. It won't cost more, but the account needs to enable the LTE service. In order to do this, I believe AT&T will need an IMEI. Since the IMEI will not be recognized, then you need to get another AT&T LTE device's IMEI code. Maybe a friend? I know some people would copy it off a demo device in the store.
Good luck.
FWIW: I put my LTE sim in the phone and everything was autoenabled correctly. This was better than with the N4 where it autoenabled wrong, and I had to change the settings.
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So, to clarify, did you just activate LTE with an N5 coming from an N4 and it went smoothly?
maniamania said:
Hello,
I'm coming from a Nexus 4, and have never had an LTE phone on my AT&T account before. I've read that since AT&T doesn't have Nexus 5 in their system, that it will be a hassle for them to activate LTE through the phone. I can't really find any concrete answers or info, so I figured I'd stop by here and see if anyone has any ideas?
Does AT&T have to activate LTE on their end for it to work? Or can I just adjust my APN once I get the phone?
Has anyone had any issues with this at all? How did you get around it?
Thanks in advance!
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i'm in the same boat, i'll know for sure when i get the n5 tomorrow but from what i've seen AT&T does have to provision your SIM for LTE. My plan is to goto an AT&T store and ask them if they can get my sim sorted; if they screw around or say they "can't" help me then i'll either grab an imei from one of the demo phones or from a buddy and call them and give them that.
youareme7 said:
i'm in the same boat, i'll know for sure when i get the n5 tomorrow but from what i've seen AT&T does have to provision your SIM for LTE. My plan is to goto an AT&T store and ask them if they can get my sim sorted; if they screw around or say they "can't" help me then i'll either grab an imei from one of the demo phones or from a buddy and call them and give them that.
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This looks to be the thing to do. I just had someone inform me that they brought the phone into AT&T, and the guy punched in the numbers off the sticker on the back, gave him a sim and he was good to go. I'll make sure to come back here and report my own findings first hand since this question seems to be floating around a bit.
maniamania said:
This looks to be the thing to do. I just had someone inform me that they brought the phone into AT&T, and the guy punched in the numbers off the sticker on the back, gave him a sim and he was good to go. I'll make sure to come back here and report my own findings first hand since this question seems to be floating around a bit.
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Do identical IMEI numbers conflict if its already on the network? Can I use the same identical IMEI from a friends ATT phone or do I need to change some numbers?
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Do identical IMEI numbers conflict if its already on the network? Can I use the same identical IMEI from a friends ATT phone or do I need to change some numbers?
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I've read imei's are never checked
I already had an LTE Sim. I just used the LTE Sim in my n4.
check out the thread I made for a very simple solution! It'll get LTE working on the N5 through AT&T guaranteed
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2512566
College Station, November 4, 2013 Verified - LTE addon
I can verify coming from a "Nexus S" BYOD.
I went to an AT&T Store in College Station, TX to get a new microSIM because the Nexus 5 only takes microSIM form factor.
I then got an LTE signal, but no IP address.
Chatted online and they told me to wait 1 hour then reboot the phone. Did so.. same response, gets on the LTE network fast, but nevers gets an IP address.
So I then called 611 on the Nexus 5 and talked to Tech Support, told them:
1. I have never had an LTE phone before and thought I needed LTE service added to my Account Profile.
2. I wanted "No changed to my legacy Unlimited plan"
They told me
1. My "legacy Unlimited plan had just been removed by 'mistake' and would have to be restored by the (backoffice)"
2. They were updating my account to enable LTE service
I then had to reboot the phone, did so and the Internet service came right up.
Now I have to wait up to 72 hours for AT&T backoffice to confirm they have restored my Unlimited plan.
I put a pass-code on my Account, and strenuously stress every time.. DO NOT TOUCH MY UNLIMITED PLAN !!!! -- And they do it any way.
.. exasperated ...
They also do not know what a "Nexus 5" phone is yet.. so I think only the call in Tech Support can interpolate what to do. I think the kee was to keep calling it an "LTE enabled Nexus 4" and then things just "worked".
spitefulcheerio said:
check out the thread I made for a very simple solution! It'll get LTE working on the N5 through AT&T guaranteed
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2512566
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This thread's a great resource. Thanks!
IF YOU HAVE ACCESS TO LTE ON AN AT&T PHONE, YOU DONT HAVE TO DO ANYTHING!!!!!!!!
IF YOU ALREADY HAVE A SIM CARD THAT WILL FIT IN THE N5, YOUR SIM IS LTE CAPABLE AND ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS GET THE RIGHT DATA PROVISION. YOU DO NOT NEED TO GET A NEW SIM!!!!!!!
This happened when the N4 came out and I came to the rescue far too many times to count...and I've already started to read threads about it so here we go!
You just bought an N5 and are either worried about getting LTE or can't get LTE connectivity on your N5. It's a really big issue with a really simple solution. You need to make sure of a few things.
1. You have a SIM that can receive LTE frequency
2. Your data plan is a LTE provisioned plan
3. Your APNs include an LTE ANP
1 & 2 can be solved at the same time and 3 should solve itself in most cases.
Here's the big issue: AT&T doesn't have a data provision for the N5 (or the N4). Your customer service rep will take the IMEI number from your phone when you ask for a new SIM and it will come back with their basic GSM plan by default. This caused awful data speeds on the N4 and will disallow LTE on the N5 so you need to inform them that this will happen before they go through the process. A nice rep will understand. An unknowledgeable rep will claim there is nothing they can do. Ask to speak to the manager. If none of them can help, take your new LTE capable SIM and walk away.
Now after you leave the store call up customer service and tell them you just got a new *insert LTE capable AT&T device here* and you can't find the IMEI number. Tell them you tried to go into the store and they were unhelpful so you're calling. The person will immediately become helpful and generate an IMEI number. They will provision your data using said serial number and you'll be good to go.
BEFORE inserting your SIM, start up your N5. Go through the setup process that you have to go through and then turn it back off. Plug in your SIM and reboot.
Go to Settings > Wireless & Networks > more > Mobile Networks > Access point Names. In there you should see an AT&T LTE APN and it should be already selected. If not, select it. This should be all you need to do. It really is that simple.
NOTES:
- All SIMs that fit in the N4 and N5 are LTE capable
- Here is what your AT&T APN should look like
- If you have any issues, post and I'll do my best to help
As always, Thanks are appreciated.
So even if the rep in store "can't help" I'll still walk out with the SIM card I need? Also, If I don't have my N5/IMEI in hand when I go in can I still setup a plan and get a SIM card? Thanks for the post!
EDIT: Going in with no phone I don't know rather to tell them I have a N5 coming or try to find a friends that will give me their IMEI that I can give them...
You'll get a SIM card no matter what because those are free...it just won't be provisioned properly unless you get a knowledgeable rep.
Having an IMEI in hand makes life easier; having your N5 will make it way easier. The SIM needs to be activated in the store and they will need an IMEI to activate. Just wait till you get your N5 to go through all this. It won't do anything to help you until you get it.
The IMEI will be on the SIM tray!
spitefulcheerio said:
You'll get a SIM card no matter what because those are free...it just won't be provisioned properly unless you get a knowledgeable rep.
Having an IMEI in hand makes life easier; having your N5 will make it way easier. The SIM needs to be activated in the store and they will need an IMEI to activate. Just wait till you get your N5 to go through all this. It won't do anything to help you until you get it.
The IMEI will be on the SIM tray!
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Ok, I will wait until Wednesday to go in then...one last thing, if it gets to the point I have to call ATT, when I say I can't find the IMEI won't they just tell me to flip the phone over or look in the settings, etc.. instead of generating one?
No.
They will ask you if there is a barcode / serial thing on the back of your device. You say no. Boom, done.
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So just going in and asking to exchange your sim for a micro sim isn't enough?
I have a note 3 right now with 4g. I was going to use the same Sim card in the note and put in the N5. Should it work out of the box or do I still have to take it in the store? How will I know that I have a an imei card?
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GldRush98 said:
So just going in and asking to exchange your sim for a micro sim isn't enough?
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No. The SIM must be activated and an IMEI is required to activate.
marcusva79 said:
I have a note 3 right now with 4g. I was going to use the same Sim card in the note and put in the N5. Should it work out of the box or do I still have to take it in the store? How will I know that I have a an imei card?
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I'll make this even easier!
Do you have a SIM that will fit in the N5? If not, follow my steps. If so, skip ahead to calling AT&T customer support because ALL MICRO SIMS ARE LTE CAPABLE.
What do you mean by an IMEI card? All phones come with an IMEI.
great. AT&T why are you so terrible.
Im sim is in the note 3 rught now. Sending it back to att. Getting the n5 tomorrow. New to the Sim card thing. Coming from sprint. Just had to ask.
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Hey guys I'm going to switching to straight talk att am I ordered the lte micro sim from them and plan to activate tomorrow should I expect to jump through hoops to get lte or expect the same issues as att users...not sure this is my first try at prepaid
same things will happen. You'll need to get an LTE data provision but will be unable to using your N5 IMEI
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I have a note 3 right now with 4g. I was going to use the same Sim card in the note and put in the N5. Should it work out of the box or do I still have to take it in the store? How will I know that I have a an imei card?
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If you have 4g on your note 3 it means you already have a LTE data plan. All you need to do is take the sim out of your note 3 and pop it into your n5, no need to call anyone or make an unnecessary trip to the store.
4g =/= LTE in AT&Ts case. 4g can mean HSPA+ 4g!
If you have access to LTE currently YOU DO NOT NEED TO DO ANYTHING.
spitefulcheerio said:
Now after you leave the store call up customer service and tell them you just got a new *insert LTE capable AT&T device here* and you can't find the IMEI number.
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If you have a device and you can't find the IMEI, just go to the settings and about device to view it.. Wouldn't they ask you to do that?
Look, I know you want to dumb down stuff and give advise but some of it is just incorrect, not dumbed down.
Dial *#06# on any Android smartphone and it'll display the IMEI.
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Here's the big issue: AT&T doesn't have a data provision for the N5 (or the N4). Your customer service rep will take the IMEI number from your phone when you ask for a new SIM and it will come back with their basic GSM plan by default. This caused awful data speeds on the N4 and will disallow LTE on the N5 so you need to inform them that this will happen before they go through the process. A nice rep will understand. An unknowledgeable rep will claim there is nothing they can do. Ask to speak to the manager. If none of them can help, take your new LTE capable SIM and walk away.
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It's possible that the reps @ the AT&T Stores in different areas aren't properly keying the IMEI in properly. If at all possible have them SCAN the IMEI barcode on the back of the phone.
I went down to the AT&T store here locally (Bay Area, CA) and the only problem I had in the process was a 30 minute wait to see one of the reps.
I was previously on an unlimited data plan that I've had setup since I got my original iPhone 3G - 5 years ago. NOT an LTE plan by any stretch.
He went in the back and grabbed the sim and started the process of adding it to the account.
He scanned the sim and then scanned my phone -- It CORRECTLY recognized the device as a D820 **AND** automatically updated my data plan to the LTE Unlimited.
The only thing the rep had to do was press confirm a number of times. Not once did he have to manually adjust anything.
We waited about 5 minutes for the sim to activate, slipped it into my N5 and powered it up - Instant LTE service.
So AT&T *does* have the IMEI Registered for the N5 with a corresponding LTE Plan. If someone is trying to key it in and getting an error.. they're likely not typing something correctly.
I'm already using a note 3 on at&t with LTE already enabled on my plan. Also,my note 3 already uses a micro-SIM. I should be good to just swap my SIM into the n5 right? I have written down the default AT&T APN just in case it gets list on the n5.
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It's possible that the reps @ the AT&T Stores in different areas aren't properly keying the IMEI in properly. If at all possible have them SCAN the IMEI barcode on the back of the phone.
I went down to the AT&T store here locally (Bay Area, CA) and the only problem I had in the process was a 30 minute wait to see one of the reps.
I was previously on an unlimited data plan that I've had setup since I got my original iPhone 3G - 5 years ago. NOT an LTE plan by any stretch.
He went in the back and grabbed the sim and started the process of adding it to the account.
He scanned the sim and then scanned my phone -- It CORRECTLY recognized the device as a D820 **AND** automatically updated my data plan to the LTE Unlimited.
The only thing the rep had to do was press confirm a number of times. Not once did he have to manually adjust anything.
We waited about 5 minutes for the sim to activate, slipped it into my N5 and powered it up - Instant LTE service.
So AT&T *does* have the IMEI Registered for the N5 with a corresponding LTE Plan. If someone is trying to key it in and getting an error.. they're likely not typing something correctly.
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This is good to know, I am going to do this today as my nexus 5 should be arriving sometime today. So have the rep scan and should be good to go, at least I have a game plan if I run into some problems.
Thanks
Great thread. Could you please take a look at my issue with LTE being slower than 3G here? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2513844
I've tried adding a new APN but the phone keeps deleting it!
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So I am looking to buy a new phone. I am looking on ebay and there are TONS of bad imei phones for at&t! I want to buy one since they are cheaper. Only issue is that I want to be sure that they will work on straight talk, since that is my current carrier. I have read lots of people's pinions about if they will work or not because of blacklists, and I don't know if there is any one steady answer. I am hoping to get someone with some real knowledge to shed some light on this because I am stumped on if I should take the risk and buy one.
I did call straight talk today and ask if I can bring a phone with a bad IMEI number over and the response I got was strange... They said that all I have to do is buy a BYOP package and give them my sim card number and it will work. I said I know that it will work because i am on a BYOP already, but I wanted to know if my sim would get kicked off for using a blacklisted phone on the at&t network even though it was through straight talk. She said, that they only need the digits from the straight talk sim and it would work. So I tried one more time and explained everything fully... I again received the same response that they needed the sim card numbers only. So I said, does that mean that the IMEI doesn't matter for your service at all and I can have a blacklisted phone on it? and again the response was, (besically) yes, you just need a straight talk sim.
So all in all I understand that to mean that AT&T has nothing to do with straight talk when it comes to blacklisting phones! That's a wonderful thing since there are so many blacklist phones out there right now, but I was hoping someone else could drop a little knowledge on me if they knew something about it, or if they knew that straight talk was lying, so I don't waste my time/money on this phone.
I haven't looked into this since last year, but the FCC was advising on a shared blacklist to be implemented in the future back then.
Also beware that the phone might be stolen, which could lead to more problems in the future.
I've never used Straight Talk, but if they use AT&T towers maybe call AT&T. Honestly, it might be hard to get a real answer from them because most of the reps (true for all companies) don't have a clue how their own blacklists even work - heck, some don't even seem to know they *exist*.
They might not be "lying", it just might not be part of their training is information base.
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So I am looking to buy a new phone. I am looking on ebay and there are TONS of bad imei phones for at&t! I want to buy one since they are cheaper. Only issue is that I want to be sure that they will work on straight talk, since that is my current carrier. I have read lots of people's pinions about if they will work or not because of blacklists, and I don't know if there is any one steady answer. I am hoping to get someone with some real knowledge to shed some light on this because I am stumped on if I should take the risk and buy one.
I did call straight talk today and ask if I can bring a phone with a bad IMEI number over and the response I got was strange... They said that all I have to do is buy a BYOP package and give them my sim card number and it will work. I said I know that it will work because i am on a BYOP already, but I wanted to know if my sim would get kicked off for using a blacklisted phone on the at&t network even though it was through straight talk. She said, that they only need the digits from the straight talk sim and it would work. So I tried one more time and explained everything fully... I again received the same response that they needed the sim card numbers only. So I said, does that mean that the IMEI doesn't matter for your service at all and I can have a blacklisted phone on it? and again the response was, (besically) yes, you just need a straight talk sim.
So all in all I understand that to mean that AT&T has nothing to do with straight talk when it comes to blacklisting phones! That's a wonderful thing since there are so many blacklist phones out there right now, but I was hoping someone else could drop a little knowledge on me if they knew something about it, or if they knew that straight talk was lying, so I don't waste my time/money on this phone.
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StraightTalk SIM cards can either use AT&T or T-mobile (Tracfone {parent company for StraghtTalk} leases several carrier's networks). If you buy and AT&T phone with a bad ESN and put a StraghtTalk AT&T SIM into it, the likelihood of it working is low. The reason for this is the you would still be using AT&T's network, and the ESN has a high chance of being picked up by AT&T's black-list.
If I were you, I'd get a factory unlocked phone, or a newer Verizon 4G LTE phone that has a bad (or clean) ESN. The reason I say the later is that most Verizon 4G LTE phones are also world phones and work with GSM. Now, you'll have to remove the radio band block, but that's very easy, and I know XDA has several tutorials for this. I removed the block on my RAZR M and it works just fine with an AT&T SIM inserted.
Hikikomori-Otaku said:
StraightTalk SIM cards can either use AT&T or T-mobile (Tracfone {parent company for StraghtTalk} leases several carrier's networks). If you buy and AT&T phone with a bad ESN and put a StraghtTalk AT&T SIM into it, the likelihood of it working is low. The reason for this is the you would still be using AT&T's network, and the ESN has a high chance of being picked up by AT&T's black-list.
If I were you, I'd get a factory unlocked phone, or a newer Verizon 4G LTE phone that has a bad (or clean) ESN. The reason I say the later is that most Verizon 4G LTE phones are also world phones and work with GSM. Now, you'll have to remove the radio band block, but that's very easy, and I know XDA has several tutorials for this. I removed the block on my RAZR M and it works just fine with an AT&T SIM inserted.
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I think the reason i might believe them is because they dont even know my imei number for the phone i have right now! And if my number is not tied to my imei number then it would be impossible for them to find it out. Or at least i would think it is. Every other service that is tied to an esn or imei number, you have to tell them the number and let them register it. With straight talk you register the sim and can use that sim in any unlocked phone.
I am currently running a note 2 from verizon on straight talk. It is a world phone but i cant seem to get 4g on it. Is this because i have to unlock the bands? If so, how do i do that? I thought it was just because of the apn i was using. I tried a bunch but only got one to work on h+/h/3g (it flickers).
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I think the reason i might believe them is because they dont even know my imei number for the phone i have right now! And if my number is not tied to my imei number then it would be impossible for them to find it out. Or at least i would think it is. Every other service that is tied to an esn or imei number, you have to tell them the number and let them register it. With straight talk you register the sim and can use that sim in any unlocked phone.
I am currently running a note 2 from verizon on straight talk. It is a world phone but i cant seem to get 4g on it. Is this because i have to unlock the bands? If so, how do i do that? I thought it was just because of the apn i was using. I tried a bunch but only got one to work on h+/h/3g (it flickers).
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You're half-right. You don't have to give StrraightTalk you ESN (MEID/IMEI). The problem comes when you connect to the network. When you connect, your device will be identified by it's ICCID (SIM #) and it's ESN (so it knows what type of device it is and what service it needs). Because it would be an old AT&T phone, reconnecting to AT&T, there's a high chance it will be matched on the black-list.
As for your Note II, if it's already working, the radio it has may not support the higher GSM 4G/LTE bands. You may be able to unlock them, but I wouldn't know how with a Samsung device. The APN may help, but I'd first check the radio.
Ok I have a question so I have a T-Mobile contract and iPhone 7 Plus for a little over a. Year now but I haven’t paid it off in full and my bill got out of hand so I can’t afford to pay the balance so is there anyway I can use this for any prepaid plans of any company
Thinking of buying a sprint v50. Will unlocked sprint version work on tmobile?
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Thinking of buying a sprint v50. Will unlocked sprint version work on tmobile?
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I suggest you to go for the Korean model if it's not working. Just make sure to check lte bands for compatibility.
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I suggest you to go for the Korean model if it's not working. Just make sure to check lte bands for compatibility.
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Have a chance to get a good deal on a unlocked sprint version.
Then go for it. But be sure to be Sim unlocked and lte bands accepted. The Korean sells for 800$ on eBay. Also can be flashed with European firmware and supports secondary screen. Imo has better quality also software aside. Noticed with LG G7... If you got better deal then go for it.
Are you sure it's unlocked and if so, how was it unlocked? I have a Sprint model and I'm having to wait ‘til my 50 service days are up to get Sprint to unlock it. I've contacted some pretty good unlocking services and hearing the same thing from all; As of now only Sprint can unlock it.
As we all know Sprint 5G service area (like all others) is very small but they're still charging everyone who activates this phone on their service for a 5G service plan regardless of whether they have 5G service in your area or not. I got a great deal on a 3rd party phone but it was locked which I knew going in. As soon as it's unlocked, I'm going to try GFI. BTW, it's a great phone.
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Then go for it. But be sure to be Sim unlocked and lte bands accepted. The Korean sells for 800$ on eBay. Also can be flashed with European firmware and supports secondary screen. Imo has better quality also software aside. Noticed with LG G7... If you got better deal then go for it.
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Sadly lg value goes down extremely fast. I personally wouldnt spend anywhere close to retail with lg phones.
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Are you sure it's unlocked and if so, how was it unlocked? I have a Sprint model and I'm having to wait ‘til my 50 service days are up to get Sprint to unlock it. I've contacted some pretty good unlocking services and hearing the same thing from all; As of now only Sprint can unlock it.
As we all know Sprint 5G service area (like all others) is very small but they're still charging everyone who activates this phone on their service for a 5G service plan regardless of whether they have 5G service in your area or not. I got a great deal on a 3rd party phone but it was locked which I knew going in. As soon as it's unlocked, I'm going to try GFI. BTW, it's a great phone.
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Wont be sure until I put my sim card in but it owner says sim unlocked. No interest in 5g anytime soon. If possible will disable/limit to lte.
One thing's for sure.... LG phones drop like a rock! I couldn't wait but I’m thinking in two months this phone's (sprint model) probably going to be selling for $400. Imo the only thing holding the price up for now is there just aren't very many out in the wild. Kind of strange really, since according to the Ifixit breakdown, it has the same Qualcomm 5G X50 modem as both the Galaxy S10 5G phone and the new Note 5G. Otherwise the specs are very similar. I guess it’s all perceived value.
Just in from Sprint tech support;
Hello,
Letting you know your LG V450PM BLK XCVR SGL on line 954-xxx-xxxx
cannot be unlocked because it hasn't been active for more than 50 days.
Go to sprint.com/chat or call *2 for help.
Sincerely,
Shaun K.
Sprint
t-mobile
hooutoo said:
Just in from Sprint tech support;
Hello,
Letting you know your LG V450PM BLK XCVR SGL on line 954-xxx-xxxx
cannot be unlocked because it hasn't been active for more than 50 days.
Go to sprint.com/chat or call *2 for help.
Sincerely,
Shaun K.
Sprint
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so has anyone activated on t-mobile?
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so has anyone activated on t-mobile?
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My 50 days on Sprint are up in about a week. I'm moving back to Google Fi as soon as I unlock. Of course, Fi uses both Tmob & Sprint networks so I'm fairly sure is will work on one or the other.
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so has anyone activated on t-mobile?
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Im active on metropcs by tmobile.
Everything working fine but i keep getting an activate now popup that is really really annoying
LM-V450PM
Yeah, LG phones drop like a rock.
Some vendor on eBay was selling the Korean V50 with dual screen for $529......yeah.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-V50-Thi...972866&hash=item1f015f8485:g:k9wAAOSw4kZdX2mi
I am just waiting for these to drop even more if that. Doubt the 5G works in other markets.
were you able to use wifi calling ? were you able to eliminate the 'activate' message. Thanks
Finally Sim unlocked and ported over to Simple Mobile, a Tmob Mvno. It was relatively painless and took less than an hour for the actual port. No reason to be on Sprint right now if you don't have 5G service in your area. I was on the phone with Sprint yesterday for at least an hour and a half and gave them every chance to do something about my bill. I asked them point blank why anyone would pay for 5G service when it's not even in their area? Their response was just lame. I'm guessing it will be at least one if not two years before 5G is working in a wide spread fashion in a lot of cities in the US.
Now, as for the service on Tmob's network, it's only been about a hour since I switched but have made couple of phone calls and run a couple of speed tests. Phone call quality seems same same and speed test speeds seemed the same as if I were on Tmob., 15 down and about 7-10 on the upload. Now the freaking really good news. Simple mobile is running a special for 3GBs data and unlimited talk, unlimited text. at $25 per month. If you do auto pay after taxes it's $22 and change.
are all t mobile bands available? Does it work with t mobile 5G?
As of right now, there seems to be a problem with the APN record on the sprint model. Sprint, the scumbag company that it is, has locked the APN. They'll unlock the phone to except other sim cards, no problem. But when your new provider tries to register your phone on their network it doesn't fully complete the process. In other words, part of the process is that a new APN record is pushed down to the phone identifying the new MMS DNS server for that network. I use Simple Mobile which is a MVNO of Tmob but Sprint has locked the APN on my V50. I;m still able to get data but can't send/receive pictures via text messages.
So be ware.
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Im active on metropcs by tmobile.
Everything working fine but i keep getting an activate now popup that is really really annoying
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does wifi calling work? how are updates handled . thank you
We have a pair of sprint unlocked V50 and just got an update over the metropcs service.
In the service menu it says voice over wifi is provisioned but in the settings network voice over wifi is off and the switch wont stay to on position when i toggle to on.
I still see my cellular connection in the notification area disappear then reappear.
Is this normal behavior or is it trying to activate in background? Maybe it checking for 5G?
I think it using more batt then usual possibly
Now....... finally, some good news and this took a bit of doing. To start off with I originally tried an old Fi sim card I had to port out of Sprint after those scumbags unlocked my V50. I kept getting a T077 error during the Google Fi activation process and Fi support just kept telling me that the V50 wasn't a supported device and they couldn’t help. I told them I thought it was a bad sim card so they suggest I pick up a new one at Best Buy. So, after a trip down to Best Buy I found out that they rarely have Fi cards in stock so I picked up a Simple Mobile (tmob mvno) sim for a buck and the port/activation sort of worked in that I successfully ported my number from Sprint and I was able to make calls and get data but couldn't receive/send pictures (MMS) in text. So, I said screw it and order another Fi Sim card thru the Google site and waited a week. I got it yesterday late and tried it this morning and crap it didn't work with the same activation error, T077. I have been scouring the internet for days for any info the error code and somewhere along the way I remember seeing something about taking the mvno card out and then putting the Fi card in and trying to activate without rebooting the phone. Now remember this is really all about not being able to edit the APN record with the correct DNS info so you can receive MMS picture by text. Anyway, after slipping in the FI sim card to my V50 the activation process suddenly squeaked on thru and low and behold I'm now running on Google Fi with MMS working and APN record is correctly updated the Fi info. I think the reason it worked was that the activation process thought I was a Tmob customer. When it asked me for account info to port my existing number to GFI the dialog screen show things like.... Enter your T-Mobile account number and asked what was the name on my T-Mobile account. But for whatever reason it worked and now I'm finally free of Sprint.
It worked for me but your mileage may very.
hooutoo said:
Now....... finally, some good news and this took a bit of doing. To start off with I originally tried an old Fi sim card I had to port out of Sprint after those scumbags unlocked my V50. I kept getting a T077 error during the Google Fi activation process and Fi support just kept telling me that the V50 wasn't a supported device and they couldn’t help. I told them I thought it was a bad sim card so they suggest I pick up a new one at Best Buy. So, after a trip down to Best Buy I found out that they rarely have Fi cards in stock so I picked up a Simple Mobile (tmob mvno) sim for a buck and the port/activation sort of worked in that I successfully ported my number from Sprint and I was able to make calls and get data but couldn't receive/send pictures (MMS) in text. So, I said screw it and order another Fi Sim card thru the Google site and waited a week. I got it yesterday late and tried it this morning and crap it didn't work with the same activation error, T077. I have been scouring the internet for days for any info the error code and somewhere along the way I remember seeing something about taking the mvno card out and then putting the Fi card in and trying to activate without rebooting the phone. Now remember this is really all about not being able to edit the APN record with the correct DNS info so you can receive MMS picture by text. Anyway, after slipping in the FI sim card to my V50 the activation process suddenly squeaked on thru and low and behold I'm now running on Google Fi with MMS working and APN record is correctly updated the Fi info. I think the reason it worked was that the activation process thought I was a Tmob customer. When it asked me for account info to port my existing number to GFI the dialog screen show things like.... Enter your T-Mobile account number and asked what was the name on my T-Mobile account. But for whatever reason it worked and now I'm finally free of Sprint.
It worked for me but your mileage may very.
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What sms app do you use? Lg or Google? Cuz with Google messaging I have fully enabled RCS. Sending pics and videos over data and wifi. Why bother with mms when RCS technology is way better?