[Q] Issues with USB wireless keyboard via OTG - Galaxy Tab S Accessories

I purchased a Rapoo E9070 wireless keyboard with high hopes that it would work great as a full size typing companion for my Tab S 8.4 LTE. At first it wouldn't work with just the OTG cable, but I finally got it to register key presses after installing External Keyboard Helper Pro. There's just one problem: it gets disconnected the moment I hit the CapsLock key or the Numpad Enter key. The second I hit one of those keys, i get a keyboard connected-keyboard disconnected infinite loop in my notification bar, until I pull out the OTG. Plugging it back i fixes everything, but it's really annoying, especially in the middle of a meeting where I use my unorthodox combo of tablet + full size wireless keyboard the most.
Anyone have similar experiences or know of a workaround for this?
TIA!

My Logitech wireless keyboard works fine with the unifying receiver plugged into an OTG cable even without any app. Have you tried setting up the wireless keyboard on a computer first?

snapper.fishes said:
My Logitech wireless keyboard works fine with the unifying receiver plugged into an OTG cable even without any app. Have you tried setting up the wireless keyboard on a computer first?
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Yes I'm typing with it right now. First time I plugged it in to my PC, it just downloaded a driver and is working perfectly with no need for any tweaking or other installs. I don't know much about how hardware communicates, but I'm thinking it might have something to do with Samsung devices not having a dedicated caps lock key on it's on-screen keyboards (you press the shift button twice to lock caps, and once more to release). Maybe the Tab S simply doesn't recognize the code the caps lock key throws at it, so it goes haywire and kicks the keyboard off or something.

pawces said:
Yes I'm typing with it right now. First time I plugged it in to my PC, it just downloaded a driver and is working perfectly with no need for any tweaking or other installs. I don't know much about how hardware communicates, but I'm thinking it might have something to do with Samsung devices not having a dedicated caps lock key on it's on-screen keyboards (you press the shift button twice to lock caps, and once more to release). Maybe the Tab S simply doesn't recognize the code the caps lock key throws at it, so it goes haywire and kicks the keyboard off or something.
Does your keyboard have a caps lock or numpad enter key? do they work?
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There's no num pad, but there's a cap lock. I can bring the keyboard back home tonight test it. (I normally keep the keyboard in office)
edit: So I took the keyboard home but forgot to bring the receiver
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I am going to bring the tablet into work tmr.

Alright I did the test. I used a Logitech K360 keyboard, and in contrary to my memory it DOES have a numpad. Both the cap lock and the num lock worked as they should. The Enter key also works.
You said that you had to download a driver in order to use your keyboard on the PC. Do you know if your keyboard can be used with the generic keyboard driver that comes with Windows?

i uninstalled the rapoo driver from my PC and it still seems to work fine. Anyway, I guess not all wireless keyboards are equal, so I'm just going to take this as a learning experience and test accessories thoroughly before buying. The rapoo will just be relegated as my desktop keyboard, and I'm now in search of a folding BT keyboard for the tab along the lines of this thing -> http://www.amazon.com/iLepo-Foldable-High-touch-Bluetooth-Microsoft/dp/B00S7W41P8/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1426581018&sr=1-3&keywords=flyshark

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[Q] Bluetooth Keyboard

Hi
I have CM6 Stable and want to get a small bluetooth keyboard. Would this one work?
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Mini-Bluetoo...PC-PDA-/280544067728?pt=AU_Laptop_Accessories
I have seen CM has HID support.
Thanks
Yes, I have exactly the same keyboard and use it with CM6.
Works like a charm.
How does this work? it looks cool.
Exactly the same question I was thinking about of the the same keyboard.
And yeah, IIRC there's some terminal stuff needed to pair. Would like to have a set of steps how to though...
Oh and also, these cheap mini keyboards aren't able to register more than 1 press at the one time. So useless for gaming, and may make typing a little harder l.
Forge94 said:
Oh and also, these cheap mini keyboards aren't able to register more than 1 press at the one time. So useless for gaming, and may make typing a little harder l.
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Well that sucks... Might keep looking then. I got a friends apple wireless keyboard to work today. Was good. But expencive
Technomancer said:
Yes, I have exactly the same keyboard and use it with CM6.
Works like a charm.
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Can you please test as to whether it can recognize 2 or more key presses at a time with an emulator.
Please
Forge94 said:
Can you please test as to whether it can recognize 2 or more key presses at a time with an emulator.
Please
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Which emulator?
Anything free in the market? or post a link to APK plz.
Sorry for the delayed response.Can you download "nesoid", lite free version is on the market.
Then would you be able to download this super Mario ROM (only 40kb, don't worry)
http://db.tt/eUv49on
Open up Nesoid and locate the ROM wherever it's saved on your SD.
Make sure you check "enable input method" in the settings, then map the keys.
To test, could you try running and jumping at the same time, or anything that uses 2 or 3 buttons at a time.
thanks so much. If it works I will buy one straight away.
Can't thank you enough
that would be a very useful information, i would like to buy one of those keyboards too if they support multiple buttons pressed....
All, right done.
I have mapped up q, down a, left o, right p, button A backspace, button B space
i can run left and right and jump at the same time.
So it can register at least two keypresses at the same time, which is not a suprise, all HID keyboards I have seen so far can do it.
It is rather uncomfortable to play on this keyboard though, because the keys are made of rubber so it takes little effort to press the key and there is no definite feeling when it connects. For hardcore gaming i would recommend something bigger and possibly with harder keys.
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Oh wow thanks for that.
Didn't expect you to give a detailed explanation and pictures.
If you're right about all HID keyboards supporting multiple presses, then I may get the other mini one which has a d.pad.
I expected this particular one to be awkward for gaming. Can I just ask, is it still ok for typing or are the rubber keys really that Bad?
Thanks so much again!
Edit: This keyboard looks better for gaming.
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.37676
Typing isn't bad but I make some mistakes because I don't feel it if the key made contact or not.
For gaming I would choose some keyboard with hard plastic key caps, the one from DX is soft rubber too so it is going to feel mushy too.
Ahh ok.
I can't work out whether the keys on this keyboard are plastic or rubber. If they're plastic I will buy one, and it should be good to dock my N1 on that cover?
Care to help?
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Palm-sized-B...AU_MobilePhoneAccessories&hash=item4aa4b9640b

(now with pictures!) Just bought Thumb Keyboard...

I have just recently bought Thumb keyboard when trying to find a good split keyboard for the Tab Plus and I do have say say it is VERY nice.
The keyboard split is much easier on the thumbs for typing in Landscape mode. In between the two keypads are more keys and you also hold down a key and a numeric pad comes on top of the keyboard and goes away when you let it go. If some people have hands that are on the smaller side (like me) I highly recommend this keyboard it's so much more comfortable than the ones that come stock.
I will also note I did try SwiftKey Tablet X and I didn't like it as much. The landscape keys were slightly smaller and the portrait mode for had REALLY small keys and it only had 3 themes to play with.
Thumb Keyboard comes with 29 themes and the ability to adjust the size of the keyboard all on it's own (default being 100% and can go all the way to 100%) along with different layouts and optimized layouts for different tablet sizes (eg 7 inch, another 7 inch, 10.1 inch) and you can customize it to your liking.
My only gripe is the portrait mode keyboard is a little odd but not enough for me to completely dislike if anything it's easier to use.
In the end it is $2.29, but to me it was well worth it and should be given a try.
And I would put pictures of it up but I can't seem to screen cap the keyboard... :'(
Edit:
Go to the 4th post to see pictures! or click here
Screenshot ER for screen shots of the keyboard.
Sent from my ICS powered Galaxy S2
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Ah thank you! Now I can put up some pictures!
1. This is the landscape keyboard:
2. This is the landscape while holding the numeric button (which still can just be pressed) to bring up other functions and quick numeric pad:
3. This is the portrait mode. The pads are a little odd but it works for me. I could probably change it just haven't messed with it enough yet:
You can actually get a different portait layout so it doesn't look like that. I use this for my soft keyboard on my tablet as well and it's my favorite. It would get even better if they were to put a see-thru/transparency control. My peeve with soft keyboards is they usually take up so much screen space you can't see what you're typing. Making the keys transparent to a degree solves that.
I agree about being able to see through the keyboard. That would be an interesting feature to have and decently useful too.
And thanks for letting me know that I can change the portrait mode keyboard layout, but I might even end up change it back since I'm getting used to it.
tnx for sharing this out , well thumb keyboard has been out for like one year ! everybody knows its the best keyboard on the market specially for tabs , i have been using it with my Gtab7,Gtab7+ and the Gtab10.1, works the best for me from all.
Well still, I'm completely new to Android so this was a good find to me and needed to tell the world about it... Or at least people who actually care about Android...
Well I am trying it out as we speak. So far so good. Gonna take some getting used to though. Just have to play with the settings and what not. Nice on my 7+....

Sticky for Bluetooth keyboards

Could we have a sticky listing bluetooth keyboards that people have found work with the Sensation?
Maybe just start by everyone who has had a keyboard working posting the make and model in this thread?
mrcharly said:
Could we have a sticky listing bluetooth keyboards that people have found work with the Sensation?
Maybe just start by everyone who has had a keyboard working posting the make and model in this thread?
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i-Tech virtual kb. Oldie but goodie. I had to buy the drivers from a site (I forget where lol) Works like 80% of the time, but cool looking! LOL
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My rom is Android revolution HD 6.4.0
My bluetooth keyboard is a dell Y-RAQ-DEL2
Seems to work ok. Wish I had a bluetooth mouse to go with it. Pairing is simple. Just go to the bluetooth screen on android. Now turn the keyboard on and hold down the pairing bluetooth button on the back til the dell keyboard is detected on the android side. A key will be listed so just type it in and the pairing is finished.
Rom: VI 4.0
Bluetooth keyboard: Apple bluetooth keyboard
I did pair the mouse but it didn't seam to do anything
I've had luck using the keyboard for the Motorola Xoom/Atrix. You just need to put the keyboard into computer pair mode by turning it on while holding keys V+A+R, and you can pair it to admitting else with Bluetooth. I've used it with my sensation, Xoom and touchpad.
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Hi,
I just bought this one:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B004EFZ2FA/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&seller=
So far it's okay. The keypad is fairly squashed and is a bit awkward to use because it's laid out in a 'chocolate box style' rather than staggered, but at the same time it's not quite small enough to hold in your hands and reach all of the keys with your hands. The keys feel pretty cheap, but for £20, what do you expect, especially as it has a mouse too : )
However, having said that, now that ICS is here the mouse function works everywhere, not just in certain apps. This gives almost full control of the phone. The only thing missing initially (that I've noticed) was the ability to press 'Menu'. I've solved this by altering the keyboard layout file as per the instrustions here: http://chris.boyle.name/2010/08/android-keymaps. I chose to re-map the 'Alt Gr' to menu.
By trial and error I'm finding all sorts of Ctrl key combinations to do various things, such as open bookmarks in the web browser (Ctrl B), history (Ctrl H) and so on.
On the plus side it will be small enough to go in a suitcase to take on holiday along with my MHL cable so I can plug it into tvs in the hotel room. Yeah baby!!!

[Q] Bluetooth Question

I have bought a cheap wireless keyboard and mouse which has one of those tiny usb bluetooth receivers. I have tested it on my pc on my galaxy note 2 and on my girlfriends nexus 7 and both the keyboard and mouse work great when i use an otg and plug in the tiny usb receiver.
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My question is, is there anyway of using my keyboard and mouse without the tiny usb receiver. Ive tryed scanning for the keyboard and mouse with the inbuilt bluetooth but nothing is found. I thought someone might know of an app or another way of connecting wireless accesories through the inbuilt bluetooth without needing the otg and the micro receiver.
Cheers
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b4d5h0t said:
I have bought a cheap wireless keyboard and mouse which has one of those tiny usb bluetooth receivers. I have tested it on my pc on my galaxy note 2 and on my girlfriends nexus 7 and both the keyboard and mouse work great when i use an otg and plug in the tiny usb receiver.
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My question is, is there anyway of using my keyboard and mouse without the tiny usb receiver. Ive tryed scanning for the keyboard and mouse with the inbuilt bluetooth but nothing is found. I thought someone might know of an app or another way of connecting wireless accesories through the inbuilt bluetooth without needing the otg and the micro receiver.
Cheers
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To give a serious answer I need to know what type of mouse and keyboard you use. Problem is that often it is not bluetooth but some special "wireless" frequency used, especially when sold in combination with a dongle.
Said it is a bluetooth keyboard, you may pair it with the Note by pushing and holding the power-on-button of the keyboard until the LED indicates pairing mode (maybe it flashes or changes colour). Then let the Note search for bt-devices, and it should work. Maybe you are asked to enter a code, just tap it on the keyboard and hit the enter-key.
The mouse should work just the same, but without a code (or it is 0000 to be entered on the Note).
Try, and if I could help, don't forget the thnx-button.
b4d5h0t said:
I have bought a cheap wireless keyboard and mouse which has one of those tiny usb bluetooth receivers. I have tested it on my pc on my galaxy note 2 and on my girlfriends nexus 7 and both the keyboard and mouse work great when i use an otg and plug in the tiny usb receiver.
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My question is, is there anyway of using my keyboard and mouse without the tiny usb receiver. Ive tryed scanning for the keyboard and mouse with the inbuilt bluetooth but nothing is found. I thought someone might know of an app or another way of connecting wireless accesories through the inbuilt bluetooth without needing the otg and the micro receiver.
Cheers
Sent from my GT-N8010 using xda app-developers app
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You have to ensure that you really have a Bluetooth keyboard..if the keyboard is visible to your pc without the special adapter than it is OK.. but as long you need the adapter .. than it is not a pure Bluetooth device!
I'm using a cheap ($12) Bluetooth keyboard/mouse combination from amazon and it works fine without the use OTG but directly over BT
Thanks for your replies. I have my suspicion that they are not working on a standard bluetooth level as the keyboard and mouse seem to be completely invisable to any inbuilt bluetooth scanning and only work with the micro usb receiver plugged in. Its not a big problem as ill only use them when its docked.
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[Q] Bluetooth Keyboard Mouse

When I connect the Microsoft Bluetooth mouse as a Bluetooth input device and browse Google chrome the keyboard disappears and I have no way to input text. If I disconnect mouse the keyboard returns. Is there anyway to use a Bluetooth mouse without having to use a mouse and keyboard both.
wmulle said:
When I connect the Microsoft Bluetooth mouse as a Bluetooth input device and browse Google chrome the keyboard disappears and I have no way to input text. If I disconnect mouse the keyboard returns. Is there anyway to use a Bluetooth mouse without having to use a mouse and keyboard both.
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At the top, when input method is available (circled in yellow, above link) you want to drag down and choose Select input method (circled in yellow below link)
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You will then have a screen like below, with a toggle. This toggle forces the on-screen keyboard to be always available, as far as I have seen.
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The only issue I have with this method is that if I connect a bluetooth keyboard, I have to switch the toggle back, or lose half my screen to the on-screen keyboard when I have a physical keyboard. Also, unless the Select input methods is available in the drop down menu, I haven't been able to locate this setting by another means. I welcome someone to find another method.
I had the same problem as wmulle using a bluetooth HID gamepad.
Also I apologize, apparently I am still 'too new' and can't post images, so you'll have to cut/paste yourself, or someone is welcome to use those links and pretty it up for others.
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At the top, when input method is available (circled in yellow, above link) you want to drag down and choose Select input method (circled in yellow below link)
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You will then have a screen like below, with a toggle. This toggle forces the on-screen keyboard to be always available, as far as I have seen.
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The only issue I have with this method is that if I connect a bluetooth keyboard, I have to switch the toggle back, or lose half my screen to the on-screen keyboard when I have a physical keyboard. Also, unless the Select input methods is available in the drop down menu, I haven't been able to locate this setting by another means. I welcome someone to find another method.
I had the same problem as wmulle using a bluetooth HID gamepad.
Also I apologize, apparently I am still 'too new' and can't post images, so you'll have to cut/paste yourself, or someone is welcome to use those links and pretty it up for others.
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(Pics added, as requested above) At the top, when input method is available (circled in yellow, above link) you want to drag down and choose Select input method (circled in yellow below)
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You will then have a screen like below, with a toggle. This toggle forces the on-screen keyboard to be always available, as far as I have seen.
The only issue I have with this method is that if I connect a bluetooth keyboard, I have to switch the toggle back, or lose half my screen to the on-screen keyboard when I have a physical keyboard. Also, unless the Select input methods is available in the drop down menu, I haven't been able to locate this setting by another means. I welcome someone to find another method.
I had the same problem as wmulle using a bluetooth HID gamepad.
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Found a solution! Use Secure Settings Hardware Keyboard Action.

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