Hi I would like to get back to stock so that i can install the OTA's when they come through. I have a TWRP backup of my original rom i want to restore. But when ive done that how would I get the stock recovery back (latest OTA)?
Ollie_17 said:
Hi I would like to get back to stock so that i can install the OTA's when they come through. I have a TWRP backup of my original rom i want to restore. But when ive done that how would I get the stock recovery back (latest OTA)?
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You don't need the 'Stock' recovery to get OTAs - you just need a 'Stock' ROM.
SimonTS said:
You don't need the 'Stock' recovery to get OTAs - you just need a 'Stock' ROM.
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But would the OTA flash?
Ollie_17 said:
But would the OTA flash?
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Yes - make sure you untick "Update CM Recovery" under Developer Options and you'll just have to reflash root after any update.
Right thanks wasnt sure if an ota would flash with twrp
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I want to root my 2.3.6 i9023 but I am not 100% sure of what the repercussions of this will be, can someone please confirm:
-As per the tutorial for i9023, I must unlock the bootloader which will wipe all my apps and SD card data?
-Is there a way to root without installing CWM? I really just want root access on the stock ROM and at this moment in time, don't need CWM.
--EG: Can I unlock the bootloader and then reboot into the stock ROM and install Superuser from the Market?
-When I unlock the bootloader, does that wipe the stock ROM off the phone as well or is it just the data?
-Once rooted, I will no longer get OTA notifications of updates, but I can install manually the official update package?
--Once the stock ROM is rooted, can I still use the Nexus stock recovery to flash official ROM updates or will I need CWM?
I have rooted a phone before and I know what I'm doing with custom ROMs but the Nexus S seems to have different procedures.
Cheers!
Yes. You have to unroot so that OTA update can be installed.
Go to "Nexus S General" and find section "All OTA ROMs".
TheManicGibbon said:
-As per the tutorial for i9023, I must unlock the bootloader which will wipe all my apps and SD card data?
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Yep.
TheManicGibbon said:
-Is there a way to root without installing CWM? I really just want root access on the stock ROM and at this moment in time, don't need CWM.
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Yes, you can root without actually installing CWM. You can use the command fastboot boot recovery.img to temporarily boot into CWM instead of fastboot flash recovery recovery.img that will replace the stock recovery with CWM.
TheManicGibbon said:
--EG: Can I unlock the bootloader and then reboot into the stock ROM and install Superuser from the Market?
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No, the su binary needs to be installed as system app. So it's easiest to flash it via CWM.
TheManicGibbon said:
-When I unlock the bootloader, does that wipe the stock ROM off the phone as well or is it just the data?
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Just the data.
TheManicGibbon said:
-Once rooted, I will no longer get OTA notifications of updates, but I can install manually the official update package?
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I believe you will still get the notification. However, the update process won't work if you don't have stock recovery.
TheManicGibbon said:
--Once the stock ROM is rooted, can I still use the Nexus stock recovery to flash official ROM updates or will I need CWM?
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The official full OTA can be flashed via either stock or CWM recovery.
Thanks for that comprehensive reply
While researching, I have since found this which is confirmed working with the i9023 on 2.3.6. What I'm wondering is, how does it root without wiping all your data (it doesn't appear to unlock the bootloader)
Finally, if I have rooted stock 2.3.6 with the stock recovery, I will have to unroot (using this method I presume) and then I can flash the OTA ICS update whenever it comes through the stock recovery, correct?
TheManicGibbon said:
While researching, I have since found this which is confirmed working with the i9023 on 2.3.6. What I'm wondering is, how does it root without wiping all your data (it doesn't appear to unlock the bootloader)
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I guess the script uses an exploit in the firmware to temporarily gain root access and copy the necessary files into the system partition.
TheManicGibbon said:
Finally, if I have rooted stock 2.3.6 with the stock recovery, I will have to unroot (using this method I presume) and then I can flash the OTA ICS update whenever it comes through the stock recovery, correct?
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You can just flash the full OTA. The phone will be unrooted and recovery will be reverted back to stock.
Thanks again, brilliant info!
I am rooted and unlocked running Cleanrom ULE 1.2
I know I will not get any more OTA updates so what will the procedure be in the future for updating, should Asus bring out a OTA update?
maxal said:
I am rooted and unlocked running Cleanrom ULE 1.2
I know I will not get any more OTA updates so what will the procedure be in the future for updating, should Asus bring out a OTA update?
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Once you unlocked, you can't use OTA anymore. You just have to use custom recovery to flash. The question is are you going to flash custom rom or factory update? Also since you're on custom rom, you probably going to flash another cleanrom?
buhohitr said:
Once you unlocked, you can't use OTA anymore. You just have to use custom recovery to flash. The question is are you going to flash custom rom or factory update? Also since you're on custom rom, you probably going to flash another cleanrom?
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I would still like to flash any future factory updates just to see what they are like before making a backup and then reverting back to a custom rom.
maxal said:
I would still like to flash any future factory updates just to see what they are like before making a backup and then reverting back to a custom rom.
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OK, then you will have to flash it manually and you need a full version of the update (download from Asus site, usually 2-3 days later after the OTA release). You can't flash the OTA version on top of your custom rom.
buhohitr said:
OK, then you will have to flash it manually and you need a full version of the update (download from Asus site, usually 2-3 days later after the OTA release). You can't flash the OTA version on top of your custom rom.
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So would I flash it over the top of my backup of stockrom+root.
maxal said:
So would I flash it over the top of my backup of stockrom+root.
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yes, as long as you have pure stock with root, you could flash right over it, but remember, if you flash the full version from Asus site, everything is gone, all your download apps, root etc...(just like a factory reset).
buhohitr said:
yes, as long as you have pure stock with root, you could flash right over it, but remember, if you flash the full version from Asus site, everything is gone, all your download apps, root etc...(just like a factory reset).
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Ok thanks.
Hi guys still a neewbi here I have a Motorola Photon Q 4g lte it has boot loader unlock and rooted Im trying to do a update to software 77.8.14 xt897 it keeps failing ........I dont have any custom roms install .......I also seem that I cant boot back to recovery mod ....help.thanks
Did you have a custom recovery installed...? Or were you stock completely?
You said you had the bootloader unlocked and it rooted, so I'm going to assume you were on CWM or TWRP... so did you put stock recovery back on before updating? You can't take system updates if you're on custom recovery.. you have to put the stock recovery back on, then update, then re-do recovery & root.
no stock
arrrghhh said:
Did you have a custom recovery installed...? Or were you stock completely?
You said you had the bootloader unlocked and it rooted, so I'm going to assume you were on CWM or TWRP... so did you put stock recovery back on before updating? You can't take system updates if you're on custom recovery.. you have to put the stock recovery back on, then update, then re-do recovery & root.
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ok thanks for the reply...............no i'm on cwm so I need stock recovery is there a site or link...........thanks
gtuck1002 said:
ok thanks for the reply...............no i'm on cwm so I need stock recovery is there a site or link...........thanks
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Well, here's a good guide from the last update. Probably still applies for this update.
This thread might help as well.
Haven't seen anyone post about this (even after doing a Google search), but Verizon has started sending out the OTA today. My question is this: since my bootloader in unlocked, and I'm rooted, can I restore back to my stock ROM and take the update? Is there a possibility that I'd completely lose root? Obviously I'd lose superuser and such, but would it replace my bootloader and custom recovery?
Thanks in advance for any helpful replies. I've been around android for a while now, but I'm new to Samsung phones, and how the bootloaders work. (I'm used to HTC where you S-OFF and you're good to go)
tylerlawhon said:
Haven't seen anyone post about this (even after doing a Google search), but Verizon has started sending out the OTA today. My question is this: since my bootloader in unlocked, and I'm rooted, can I restore back to my stock ROM and take the update?
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Yup, you can restore back to stock (via nandroid or Odin) and take the update. You should switch back your recovery if you restore a stock nandroid though.
Is there a possibility that I'd completely lose root? Obviously I'd lose superuser and such, but would it replace my bootloader and custom recovery?
Thanks in advance for any helpful replies. I've been around android for a while now, but I'm new to Samsung phones, and how the bootloaders work. (I'm used to HTC where you S-OFF and you're good to go)
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You answered your question, if you lose SU, you lose root. Verizon OTA's will replace your bootloader and custom recovery if you force the install to take through your custom recovery. It should fail initially but I've read around that folks installed the OTA in recovery.
I'll check my wife's phone tonight. If she gets the ota I will pull it from the cache and extract the boot loader and recovery and rezip it and see if it will flash via twrp
SlimSnoopOS said:
Yup, you can restore back to stock (via nandroid or Odin) and take the update. You should switch back your recovery if you restore a stock nandroid though.
You answered your question, if you lose SU, you lose root. Verizon OTA's will replace your bootloader and custom recovery if you force the install to take through your custom recovery. It should fail initially but I've read around that folks installed the OTA in recovery.
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Ok thanks for the reply. What do you mean by switch back my recovery? I'm currently on TWRP which is what I rooted with, and I've been using it since. I just want a completely untampered stock OTA of the latest OTA.
tylerlawhon said:
Ok thanks for the reply. What do you mean by switch back my recovery? I'm currently on TWRP which is what I rooted with, and I've been using it since. I just want a completely untampered stock OTA of the latest OTA.
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I mean, the OTA will fail if you just try to accept it right now. It would also fail if you switched back to your stock nandroid because you still have TWRP installed too. That's how its always been. Switching to the stock recovery, you could use EZ Recovery to do so, would resolve that.
I've read that you can still have a custom recovery installed and successfully take the OTA with a custom recovery installed but idk the exact steps to take to make this happen. Since I have no need for accepting OTA's I try to learn from what people post here.
Edit: Seems my OTA/custom recovery inquiry has been answered pretty thoroughly here (post #10). You could try those steps if you desire too.
SlimSnoopOS said:
I mean, the OTA will fail if you just try to accept it right now. It would also fail if you switched back to your stock nandroid because you still have TWRP installed too. That's how its always been. Switching to the stock recovery, you could use EZ Recovery to do so, would resolve that.
I've read that you can still have a custom recovery installed and successfully take the OTA with a custom recovery installed but idk the exact steps to take to make this happen. Since I have no need for accepting OTA's I try to learn from what people post here.
Edit: Seems my OTA/custom recovery inquiry has been answered pretty thoroughly here (post #10). You could try those steps if you desire too.
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Hmmm sounds interesting. I doubt I'd be able to use EZ unlock like I did on ICS... I guess I'll wait for a recovery flashable file.
What OTA?
cammykool said:
What OTA?
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4.1.2 ota being pushed starting today. According to Google+
Is this basically the same thing as the VRBMA2 leak?
pettigrew95 said:
Is this basically the same thing as the VRBMA2 leak?
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Yes, it's a final version of VRBMA2 leak which is VRBMB1
Damn.... on the day i root... oh well glad i did!
vzw probably blocked our current methods.
The OTA de-odexed is already posted courtesy of beanstown over here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2177798
I'm rooted, unlocked and custom recovery w/stock ROM (odex).
How do I get this update installed and keep root/unlocked/custom recovery in place?
Also want to keep Google Wallet working correctly.
lexluthor said:
I'm rooted, unlocked and custom recovery w/stock ROM (odex).
How do I get this update installed and keep root/unlocked/custom recovery in place?
Also want to keep Google Wallet working correctly.
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Download this and flash it through recovery once beanstown posts the links:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2177798
pettigrew95 said:
Download this and flash it through recovery once beanstown posts the links:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2177798
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I'd rather have the odex version though. You think someone will post that?
OK I took it from cache. Does anyone remember what all I need to delete after I extract it so it doesn't update boot loader. Recovery for sure...here's where I am before i rezip
So yea basically what the main question was, I am on 4.2.2 and successfully flashed a rom via safestrap. I am not a dev edition but was wondering if I try to flash this to the stock rom will I have to RSD back to stock or will it work? Thanks <3333
H411UCIN093NIC said:
So yea basically what the main question was, I am on 4.2.2 and successfully flashed a rom via safestrap. I am not a dev edition but was wondering if I try to flash this to the stock rom will I have to RSD back to stock or will it work? Thanks <3333
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Make a backup, restore your backup if you want back on stock.
akellar said:
Make a backup, restore your backup if you want back on stock.
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try it, if anything happens just flash back to 4.2.2