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So I gave into the emails and texts and finally called AT&T and upgraded to the 4GB Data Pro. When I had my Captivate running Serendipity I tethered all the time and nothing was ever said. I got my Infuse running Infused ROM and almost imediately got texts from AT&T.
Anyhow, I use a ton of data and got tired of fighting the issue. Just another $20 out of my pocket and no more drama. Does anyone actually know what they are looking at to notice that the phone is being tethered even rooted, no bloatware, and custom ROM?
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Here's something I posted in another thread about my experience with a tethering SMS from AT&T and the subsequent call to them...
I just got a text message from AT&T letting me know I'd automatically been switched over to a tethering plan since I was still tethering. The rub here is I have not tethered my phone a single time in the last 3 months! I actually have a 2GB plan on my old Captivate that I've been using. I called into AT&T and the lady I got was really cool. She said there must be something triggering the tethering alert on their side and she filed an extension for me so I wouldn't get switched over automatically.
So, I don't know what AT&T is really using to detect tethering, but it's indeed throwing out false positives. I've also only used 809MB since the beginning of my billing cycle (November 21), so I doubt very much that it's excessive data usage. I use some interesting things like wifi connected file managers and remote web desktop, but surely those don't trigger it (?).
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At one point in the call she asked me if I was running the latest software update. I told her I don't run AT&T software on my phone, and I replaced it with a custom image. Oddly enough, she didn't say anything about that.
Clearly you do tether your phone, and it was probably right that they detected you doing so. I just wonder what's got them incorrectly flagging accounts...

I tried a few shots with wifi tether 3.1 on DlevROM or Bionix (should be one of them) to open several web pages on my laptop. As I am on the 200M plan, so I didn't use it heavily. So far I haven't got message form AT&T yet. Hopefully that helps.

From what I've read, they've been detecting tethering by user agents in browsers, and you could give a false positive by selecting to show desktop in a browser that supports different user agents. There's a thread somewhere named "AT&T Wised Up" that explains all this
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jesi.james said:
From what I've read, they've been detecting tethering by user agents in browsers, and you could give a false positive by selecting to show desktop in a browser that supports different user agents. There's a thread somewhere named "AT&T Wised Up" that explains all this
Froggys go ribbet
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Yeah, that'd do it. I've got my VPN in full effect, and now I actually am going to tether over it. At least if they try to change me next time, they'll have a little more valid reason for it!

ccandjy said:
I tried a few shots with wifi tether 3.1 on DlevROM or Bionix (should be one of them) to open several web pages on my laptop. As I am on the 200M plan, so I didn't use it heavily. So far I haven't got message form AT&T yet. Hopefully that helps.
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On the 200m plan, please don't scream outrage when they catch you or you go over your limit.

That's wierd. I've been on infused up to a week ago, and never got a warning about tethering. I used my phone as a mobile hotspot as well. I was averaging 1500 mb a cycle.
I wonder what they use to detect it?

Okay. For example. If I use my mobile ap for tethering on my infuse phone with a custom rom , I goto my mac and connect to it and download approx 900mb file. Should that be okay?
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I have 2gb plan and it resets on the 11 every month.
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download the myatt app and watch your usage. if you are on an unlimited plan and go above 2.5gb, they may accuse you of tethering. just call em and tell em off. if you are on froyo, you can easily be ratted out by tether manager, so delete that. i dont know if any gingerbread leaks have a more native carrier entitlement check, but i know that cm7 and miui are safe to tether. if you get harassed by att without evidence, atleast pretend to be outraged.
browser useragent strings are not evidence of tethering. android makes it easy to change the useragent to desktop, or ipad, or many other options to increase website compatibility. i have yet to see anybody being accused based on that but i believe that viewing usage this close is a violation of privacy. not only that, but in any case where encryption is used, such as https, this is considered an expressed request of privacy on the part of the user.

I just had my infuse for less then a month. I rooted and deleted the tethering files. I haven't got any text from att for tethering. I tether with my laptop around 1 gb almost end of the month

I use this "beta" tethering app and do about 300-400 mb downloads at times. idk if you guys wouldl ike to try it out ill share it. couldnt find anything good in the market.
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thephoneguy206 said:
I use this "beta" tethering app and do about 300-400 mb downloads at times. idk if you guys wouldl ike to try it out ill share it. couldnt find anything good in the market.
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Wifi tether is an awesome app. Just keep in mind it uses adhoc to tether, and that doesn't work [natively] with all devices you might try to connect to it.
For those that don't know, here's the link to the Google Code site for the app attached in the previous post. http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/

I take it that WIFI Tether is not supported on MIUI/CM7?
Downloaded & installed this version: (3.1-beta 8) http://code.google.com/p/android-wi...tail?name=wifi_tether_v3_1-beta8.apk&can=2&q=

Bjray said:
I take it that WIFI Tether is not supported on MIUI/CM7?
Downloaded & installed this version: (3.1-beta 8) http://code.google.com/p/android-wi...tail?name=wifi_tether_v3_1-beta8.apk&can=2&q=
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I use 3.1 beta 6 and have for quite a while and it works just fine. I use it on CM7 on both my Captivate and my Infuse. Haven't tried beta 8. Maybe it's got a problem.

[Q] tethering and my htc and att?

Hello, can someone help me with something. I rooted my htc inspire a few months back. I did not change the room just left it as is. I am now trying to tethering my accer a500 to my htc inspire. I have tried the hot spot and also tried to hook cable to tablet from phone. when i try hot spot it turns on then turns off says i need to call att.
I am wondering do i have to flash phone with a differnet rom inorder to use those functions. or is their a way around the issue. Sorry for my lack of knowing lol. i am looking but I have not found a newbie guid covering this. I am asuming i do need to flash phone with custom rom but wanted to make sure.

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I guess should of added more info. I have rooted my phone a long while back. I did not flash a custom Rom to my phone. I am running the Rom the phone came with just rooted. Thanks again for any help someone will be able to give. I am still reading the fourms just guess not understanding. From what I am getting if I want hot spot to work or tethering to work I need to flash my phone with a custom Rom.

a 30second search of putting 'free tether htc inspire' into google would have given you the answer you need. This has been asked over and over and over. You are technically breaching your agreement and if you get caught that is on you. Here is a link in the market for a simple to use app. Next time please search before making threads.
https://market.android.com/details?...EwOSwiY29tLm1zdHJlYW0uZWFzeXRldGhlcl9iZXRhIl0.

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Lol sorry but you really think I didn't do that like a month ago. Really I have read and re-read every topic even close to covering this topic. One topic saying yes you can the next saying it didn't work. Figured would find someone nice enough to say yes you can do it, and here is the topic area to look. Thank you for the link
Update, followed your link and it went no were. Google free tethering again and came up with the same thing. Someone saying they have a way to make it work. Then a bunch of posts after that with people saying it worked for a bit but not now. I'm just looking to see if it can be done, what has and has not worked and if I am right and I need a custom Rom.

I use EasyTether Pro, don't know if its safe, but I have been using it for almost 2 years on 2 different phones, and haven't been stuck with a higher bill yet
Sent from my Inspire 4G

I tether my HP Touchpad about an hour a day and have never got hit with the email from AT&T.
Sent from my HTC Inspire using Tapatalk

thanks for the info
Was wondering do you guys use the cable, or set up a WiFi way. I don't plan on doing any downloading I use a program that looks up info for me on the net. Maybe some Facebook on the night ****. Once again thanks for the help with this very cool.

I dont have to DD an app to use hotspot because my dev built it in, which most roms do... but if you must stick with your stock rom... (thumbs down)
I used "open garden" wifi tether on a few different phones requiring that functionality. Its one of the best out there IMHO
P.S. If you like the stock feel and stability? of your stock rom, but are ready to open your phone up to a brand new life...
My suggestion for a jump off point(ROM) is 'COREDROID'! I dont rock it anymore, but it was imo the best, next very close runner up would be 'AndroidRevolution'...
Both of those have built in hotspot, plus a WAYYY faster UI than stock. Just My Opinion. good luck!

I have never tried to tether using stock rom, however almost all custom roms I have used have the ability to tether. Maybe try a custom rom, I like IceColdSandwich v 4.2. Good luck!

Thank u very much that was what I was really looking for. I will start looking for custom Rom that might work for me. I really need to learn how to back up the Rom I have so I can save it so I can flash it back to phone if need be. Thanks again all for all the help with this.

Start by looking for a recovery like "cwm recovery"... within the Inspire forums. Follow the directions exactly and read them ALL first, then reread them before flashing. Once youve achieved a recovery, you'll have opened yourself up to try ROMS i.e.Try coredroid for a few days then perform a backup of coredroid, then flash AR and run that for a few days.
As it seems in your OP, youre kinda used to a stock ROM and both of those are based on stock, with enhancements, and bloatware removed... MUCH FASTER and responsive.
So just start with one thing at a time - Recovery Time!!!
p.s. once youve installed your recovery, you should backup your current config before going to the next step - ROM!!! Practice good backup skills, and you'll limit your headaches considerably.

hello, thank you all for your replies. I am really wanting to move up to custom roms. Prob is I do not know how to back up my current rom, and how to check it to make sure its good. I am looking for the info and what app to use to get the best back up file. i want to be sure I know how to back up and also how to go back to the back up if need be before I move forward. If someone knows of a guide to do that stuff or has any good information could you pm me please. thanks a bunch for the help.

gage0727 said:
hello, thank you all for your replies. I am really wanting to move up to custom roms. Prob is I do not know how to back up my current rom, and how to check it to make sure its good. I am looking for the info and what app to use to get the best back up file. i want to be sure I know how to back up and also how to go back to the back up if need be before I move forward. If someone knows of a guide to do that stuff or has any good information could you pm me please. thanks a bunch for the help.
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as for backup between ROMs the two major ones are Titanium Backup and MyBackup

Darunion said:
a 30second search of putting 'free tether htc inspire' into google would have given you the answer you need. This has been asked over and over and over. You are technically breaching your agreement and if you get caught that is on you. Here is a link in the market for a simple to use app. Next time please search before making threads.
https://market.android.com/details?...EwOSwiY29tLm1zdHJlYW0uZWFzeXRldGhlcl9iZXRhIl0.
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I used the EasyTether app a few times around last Christmas. Today I got the email from AT&T about tethering. So I guess now we can't use EasyTether?

I went to my local store yesterday and had a rep examine my phone to be sure there was no way I could tether. She noted it in my account. Today I got a txt msg saying I was tethering. So I called the 866 number in the msg and the phone rep told me they can now tell any time a computer or any other device is plugged into the phone and any time a tethering app is used. So according to her logic, we can't even use our computers to charge our phones.

struff said:
I went to my local store yesterday and had a rep examine my phone to be sure there was no way I could tether. She noted it in my account. Today I got a txt msg saying I was tethering. So I called the 866 number in the msg and the phone rep told me they can now tell any time a computer or any other device is plugged into the phone and any time a tethering app is used. So according to her logic, we can't even use our computers to charge our phones.
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no, she means they can detect the tethering. not the connection itself. u can still charge and xfer files and sync lol

Darunion said:
no, she means they can detect the tethering. not the connection itself. u can still charge and xfer files and sync lol
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*I* know that. But she apparently doesn't. She told me that ANY time ANYTHING is plugged into the phone now counts as tethering. Even if NO apps are being used. I know better than to believe that lol.
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Sucks for EasyTether and PDANet users

This seems a good place to ask. Of course, the ref with whom I spoke claims that their system is flawless, but is there anyone here who kows AT&Ts systems that can speak as to the reliability of their inspection system?
The reason I ask, I was informed that "the data connection from your phone was opened to another device several times within the past 2 months." I used it once, I'm afraid that something looks like tethering to their system, and I'll end up with a more expensive capped plan rather than my unlimited plan (truth is that I've only gone over 3 GB once of which I'm aware, I just don't like the concept of caps.... or more cost).

I finaly put a custom rom on my phone and was able to hotspot and tether my phone to my laptop. Only used it to load one page of xda just to see if it worked or not. I never got a text meassage or phone call or anything. I also use a bunch of bandwidth on a daily bases. e-mail, web games and such. I had to re-lock my phone sending it to htc to get repaired, when i get it back it will be re rooted and custom rom and tethered again. Will let you know what happens then. lol

They will constantly improve the system. the more people that find ways around it the more they will invest in closing the holes. they didnt used to have the ability to see but more and more is pointing to packet inspection and TTL's on them to see if theres another device behind the phone. it's not just an apn setting anymore. it's best either to not tether and breach contract or just pay the $15 a month and use it. Getting around it now, could change next week or a month or tomorrow. companies will do what they can to protect their services from being taken advantage of, and with the number of users that are stealing tethering data, that is a considerable cost. do i think its fair that i need to pay $15 to connect my pc to phone for just a picture here and there, no, but the consumer always wants everything for free.

[Q] Got violation of terms warning text on Simple Mobile?

So Im running Simple Mobile Unlimited $60 plan. And I've recieved this text:
Your Simple Mobile Data service is at risk of being suspended due to violation of terms and conditions. Call ***-***-**** for additional information.
Lately I've tethered a couple of times because I used my ps3 to connect to the phone to play COD Zombies, so I'm assuming thats why. Has anyone else experienced this?
So far they havent suspended anything but i was under the impression that it was unlimited data if in fact this is the reason why i got this text in the first place.
Any way around this if i choose to continue doing it? I dont see what the big deal is. If or when they suspend you, do you lose your number? I had this number for years. Can you get hooked back up? Not sure what thia is all about, thanks guys.

You should probably read this:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1651672-Simple-Mobile-Tethering
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You aren't allowed to tether.

jamadio said:
You should probably read this:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1651672-Simple-Mobile-Tethering
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You aren't allowed to tether.
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Ok, so does anyone now what happens if they suspend you? Can you get hooked back up? I remember on here somewhere that there is a way to tether without being seen by your service provider. Can anyone help with that?

TheKid1 said:
Ok, so does anyone now what happens if they suspend you? Can you get hooked back up? I remember on here somewhere that there is a way to tether without being seen by your service provider. Can anyone help with that?
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They catch you by reading the user agent in the packets of data.. You have to change the user agent in the computer browser...I think a vpn is the only way for your ps3 to not get detected
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DJLamontagneIII said:
They catch you by reading the user agent in the packets of data.. You have to change the user agent in the computer browser...I think a vpn is the only way for your ps3 to not get detected
Sent from my LG-G2x using Tapatalk 2
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How do I change the user agent? What is a vpn?

If you were using a computer, changing the user agent would be telling the server that your not using Chrome (like I am right now), but on an Android phone.
But since this is your PS3, you would need a VPN set up. For that, you need to do some research because you're no longer on the right website for troubleshooting that.

Ok well besides for all this, i have absolutely no service at this point. I called simple mobile and explained the problem and the whore agent said please hold and gave me the tos recording and it hung up after. I called back and explained the situation again and they said my service is still active and they dont know why it is saying no service. I did research that they only turn off data, but i have nothing. They said usually you get 3 text message warnings and then they only turn off data. But again they said nothing is suspended at this point, so wtf?
My plan expires july 9th. So im wondering if i reup, would everything go back to normal? If not, what are my options? I dont want to lose my number that i had for years and i dont want to lose $60 to reup if it is still this same issue. Im pissed and stumped at this point.

TheKid1 said:
Ok well besides for all this, i have absolutely no service at this point. I called simple mobile and explained the problem and the whore agent said please hold and gave me the tos recording and it hung up after. I called back and explained the situation again and they said my service is still active and they dont know why it is saying no service. I did research that they only turn off data, but i have nothing. They said usually you get 3 text message warnings and then they only turn off data. But again they said nothing is suspended at this point, so wtf?
My plan expires july 9th. So im wondering if i reup, would everything go back to normal? If not, what are my options? I dont want to lose my number that i had for years and i dont want to lose $60 to reup if it is still this same issue. Im pissed and stumped at this point.
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Well if they gonna keep giving you issues you can always port your number to a different carrier. I know it won't be as cheap or w.e but at least you will have everything working
Sent from my LG-P999

Isn't Straight Talk cheaper than Simple?

I tether to my laptop everyday. Sometimes all day. So them telling you you can't...phfft I do. Have been since I got it on release day.
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I need tetheringmanager.apk please!

I bought my wife a Nexus 7 knowing it was a wifi only device. She wants to use her phone as a mobile hotspot. Come to find out I have to pay an extra $20 per month for the 5GB plan in order to get the mobile hotspot. BS! I saw that I could freeze tetheringmanager.apk and that would unlock the grayed out tethering option on the phone. TB unpaid version doesnt allow freeaing so I just decided to delete it. Only problem is.....now when I try to turn on the mobile hotspot on her phone the phone freezes and I have to reboot it. I know I can use foxfi, but that just keeps saying obtaining IP address and never really connects, even with pdanet tablet installed and running on the N7. Can someone please pull the tetheringmanager.apk from their phone and post it here so I can fix it the correct way, maybe, if it actually works. Doubt it will cause nothing comes easy! Please and thank you!

First off, you should really have the TB Property version. Just buy it, it's not very expensive. Next, whether or not freezing the APK will work depends on your version of Android. If you're on 2.3.5, it'll work. If you're on 4.0+ then it won't. For ICS/JB there is a slightly more complicated procedure (which you can find by searching the threads) or you can just flash a ROM with Secure Tethering already enabled (this is what I recommend).
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I bought my wife a Nexus 7 knowing it was a wifi only device. She wants to use her phone as a mobile hotspot. Come to find out I have to pay an extra $20 per month for the 5GB plan in order to get the mobile hotspot. BS! I saw that I could freeze tetheringmanager.apk and that would unlock the grayed out tethering option on the phone. TB unpaid version doesnt allow freeaing so I just decided to delete it. Only problem is.....now when I try to turn on the mobile hotspot on her phone the phone freezes and I have to reboot it. I know I can use foxfi, but that just keeps saying obtaining IP address and never really connects, even with pdanet tablet installed and running on the N7. Can someone please pull the tetheringmanager.apk from their phone and post it here so I can fix it the correct way, maybe, if it actually works. Doubt it will cause nothing comes easy! Please and thank you!
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TetheringManager.apk is attached.

aycockonxion said:
First off, you should really have the TB Property version. Just buy it, it's not very expensive. Next, whether or not freezing the APK will work depends on your version of Android. If you're on 2.3.5, it'll work. If you're on 4.0+ then it won't. For ICS/JB there is a slightly more complicated procedure (which you can find by searching the threads) or you can just flash a ROM with Secure Tethering already enabled (this is what I recommend).
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Thanks for the info, I have searched the web for endless hours looking for ways to do this. The method I am trying to use is the most common and most recommended. My wife wont let me ROM her phone, took me forever to get her to let me root it. My phone has the tethering ability and I love it!

Ruined mobile hotspot (Urgent help needed)

So I am running a HTC phone and have made some mistakes. I have been trying to change my NAT type on x bone in order to play Rainbow six online with open NAT.
I tried tether to laptop then to box using a cross over cable and forwarding ports over Internet connection sharing. I also tried installing multiple port forwarder applications onto my phone and tethering directly to the XB. One app was meant for a rooted phone (port forward ultimate), which mine isn't and it would let me stop the process before uninstalling.
Unfortunately for me it didn't work and now the tethering speed is INSANELY slow. It tells me there is an MTU error (1340) and the games which used to work fine are now completely unplayable. I wish I had never done all of it just to play one game as the others worked fine.
I am really upset, because the bit of internet I get to play video game is barely keeping my alive at the moment and now its gone.
If you have any advice you would be helping a very ill man get a little bit of joy.
Thanks

Does anyone know anywhere in the UK where I can speak to a professional about my issue. I never get responses on this forum. Any other forums where professionals dwell and give advice/help?

Nobody has the knowledge to help at all?

Can't bring myself to believe that no one has any knowledge of what to do in this situation.

I will pay for someone to help me if that's what it takes to get someone to respond here.

So...If your Phone isn't rooted, you can try (if you have one) to recover all the information. If the Phone has a Guarantee, go to the shop where you buyed it. Since it isn't rooted the Guarantee is still on it. If all of that isn't an Option, the easiest way is to root the Phone (totally worth it anyway) and try an equal App. Not the same just onenwith the same function. Write back if none of these helps, and give some more Information about your mobile (S/N number Android Version...)

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So...If your Phone isn't rooted, you can try (if you have one) to recover all the information. If the Phone has a Guarantee, go to the shop where you buyed it. Since it isn't rooted the Guarantee is still on it. If all of that isn't an Option, the easiest way is to root the Phone (totally worth it anyway) and try an equal App. Not the same just onenwith the same function. Write back if none of these helps, and give some more Information about your mobile (S/N number Android Version...)
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Its nothing to do with being rooted or not, my ISP is throttling my tethering somehow and I don't know how or why they are doing it. It worked fine for months, but I tried opening my NAT. It think they are doing something with my IP, subnet mask or MTU, but I don't know how to get around it. Other than rooting and applying tether dun 0, which I would prefer not to do, I am at a loss

Correction, I do know why they are doing it, it's because I tried opening my NAT, which is not allowed. The latency in games has quadrupled. 4g was perfect before, now its barely playable. I want to know why this is happening. Can mobile providers throttle tethering? It still works just very badly.

So, you live in the UK. So you think it's a problem with the provider. Wich provider is it?

It's either my mobile provider or the only other thing I can think of is that I dropped my phone a few weeks back.
Could dropping your phone cause the wifihotspot to work incorrectly? Surely if it was broken it would just work or not work.
I get very decent speeds on my phone but when so tether my speeds are awful, which never used to happen.
I am trying to rule out various possiblities and although I am alright at tech, I don't know much about mobiles and though there were a few knowledgeable people on this forum.
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I am going to see a professional. I didn't realise it was all amateurs here, my mistake.