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Hey guys, I would really appreciate some help with this. My phone is often extremely laggy, to the point that when it's asleep and I get a phone call, it wouldn't wake up for me to be able to answer it (even though I can hear it ringing) until the person calling hangs up. I know TW is famous for being slow but this is just ridiculous. The only thing I have running in the background with the exception of normal TW stuff is the DS Battery Saver module (only set to control wifi/Data, not killing apps) and yet often I can see that the phone is using more than 2.2GB of RAM (after I've killed everything in the task manager). How can this be? Surely the system itself doesn't need THAT much RAM? I shudder to think what phones with a smaller RAM are like.
I'm running the Thunderbolt ROM (basically just deodexed stock 5.0.1) with Xposed and the "Fix Lollipop Memory Leak" module. Is there anything else I can do? I love the design of this phone but I am close to getting rid of it and going back to Sony which was always smooth as silk. I would prefer to stick to the Note though since I love the design and extra functionalities but what use are them if I have enough time to make a cup of coffee every time I try to do something?
It must be your Rom. I used to love to installed custom rom on my S1 and S2. But at the end of the day, custom roms are all buggy.
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I would agree with you but if anything, it was worse when I was on stock which is why I decided to try a custom rom (and I tried many buggy ones before settling on this). I'm not someone who spend my time flashing various roms just to experiment, it's usually because I find the performance or features lacking.
Have you tried to wipe everything and odin back to stock? Im on stock, unroot, and I dont have any issues yet.
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Have you tried to wipe everything and odin back to stock? Im on stock, unroot, and I dont have any issues yet.
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Same. I just don't even bother with Custom ROMs except if it gives more battery life. KNowing how hard Samsung has worked to make customization harder, I haven't bothered with custom ROMs for my edge.
Also I too have high RAM usage always but it doesn't make my phone any slower or laggier than past Bloatwiz phones. I am on 4.4.4 stock with a bunch of T Mobile stuff disabled.
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Same. I just don't even bother with Custom ROMs except if it gives more battery life. KNowing how hard Samsung has worked to make customization harder, I haven't bothered with custom ROMs for my edge.
Also I too have high RAM usage always but it doesn't make my phone any slower or laggier than past Bloatwiz phones. I am on 4.4.4 stock with a bunch of T Mobile stuff disabled.
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Yeah I wonder if I should revert back to KitKat. My phone was great when I first got it, even when I had a whole heap of stuff installed. But maybe I'll wait for 5.1.1 first and see if that helps (the 915G still hadn't received 5.1.1 yet).
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Yeah I wonder if I should revert back to KitKat. My phone was great when I first got it, even when I had a whole heap of stuff installed. But maybe I'll wait for 5.1.1 first and see if that helps (the 915G still hadn't received 5.1.1 yet).
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From what I have seen, you can no longer downgrade Android once you update to 5.1.1
Suffice it to say I will see if there is a way to stop my phone from auto updating itself. Kit Kat is working well for me and it retains all the native Edge features that made the Edge different.
I was able to get 6.5 hours screen time with my phone with location turned off and a full day of note taking, facebook, and music
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From what I have seen, you can no longer downgrade Android once you update to 5.1.1
Suffice it to say I will see if there is a way to stop my phone from auto updating itself. Kit Kat is working well for me and it retains all the native Edge features that made the Edge different.
I was able to get 6.5 hours screen time with my phone with location turned off and a full day of note taking, facebook, and music
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6.5 hours?!? Holy crap, did you play any games at all? I usually last only around 3 hours but that's because I do play quite a lot of games. Anyway, I'm downgrading to 4.4.4 now, hopefully it'll stop acting up.
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6.5 hours?!? Holy crap, did you play any games at all? I usually last only around 3 hours but that's because I do play quite a lot of games. Anyway, I'm downgrading to 4.4.4 now, hopefully it'll stop acting up.
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No. Not really. Like I said, I One Noted all day with my S pen, music, facebook alot and Chrome. I managed battery by using power saving mode, turning off location and turning off sync and turning it on every hour for about 5 minutes to get my emails in.
Today I did gaming and art on my Edge and got about 4 hours
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No. Not really. Like I said, I One Noted all day with my S pen, music, facebook alot and Chrome. I managed battery by using power saving mode, turning off location and turning off sync and turning it on every hour for about 5 minutes to get my emails in.
Today I did gaming and art on my Edge and got about 4 hours
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So I've been back on stock 4.4.4 for a few days now. It is simply fantastic! The difference is huge! No problems what so ever now. I would like to stay on this for the life of my phone but I am a little concerned about the lack of security updates (such as Stagefright). What are your thoughts on this?
BTW, I noticed that Android system and kernel often takes up the majority of my battery percentage. Each by between 9-16%. Do you get this as well?
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So I've been back on stock 4.4.4 for a few days now. It is simply fantastic! The difference is huge! No problems what so ever now. I would like to stay on this for the life of my phone but I am a little concerned about the lack of security updates (such as Stagefright). What are your thoughts on this?
BTW, I noticed that Android system and kernel often takes up the majority of my battery percentage. Each by between 9-16%. Do you get this as well?
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Yep, thats normal
And don't worry, i got the stagefright update on 4.4.4 and I was on MetroPCS lol. MetroPCS rides on T Mobile, but its just goes to illustrate that you have nothing to worry about. Glad you are enjoying your Note Edge again. Its a shame Samsung forgot they released this beast of a phone. Imagine this thing with the Note 5's but Edged version of the new TW. Nah, makes too much sense for consumers. Doesn't make sense if you are trying to get people to buy new phones.
Anyways just make sure you never upgrade to 5.1.1 That thing is a point of no return
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Yep, thats normal
And don't worry, i got the stagefright update on 4.4.4 and I was on MetroPCS lol. MetroPCS rides on T Mobile, but its just goes to illustrate that you have nothing to worry about. Glad you are enjoying your Note Edge again. Its a shame Samsung forgot they released this beast of a phone. Imagine this thing with the Note 5's but Edged version of the new TW. Nah, makes too much sense for consumers. Doesn't make sense if you are trying to get people to buy new phones.
Anyways just make sure you never upgrade to 5.1.1 That thing is a point of no return
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I can't even begin to describe how happy I am with my phone right now. I remember a couple of months after I first got it, a friend of mine was watching me use it and commented on how snappy it was. Then more recently, not only did the sluggishness drive me crazy, I was watching others with envy, especially my girlfriend who is rocking my old Z1 Compact which still performs like a little rocket. Anyway, I am now back to loving the Note Edge again. I even prefer it over the new Notes, looks and all.
I just want to ask though, how did you manage to get the Stagefright update without updating the firmware? Software Update in the Settings won't allow me to update at all because "the operating system on my device has been modified in an unauthorised way" (I guess they're talking about the root) and Kies 3 tells me there's a new firmware available which I guess is 5.0.1 again (the N915G still doesn't have 5.1.1 as far as I know).
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I can't even begin to describe how happy I am with my phone right now. I remember a couple of months after I first got it, a friend of mine was watching me use it and commented on how snappy it was. Then more recently, not only did the sluggishness drive me crazy, I was watching others with envy, especially my girlfriend who is rocking my old Z1 Compact which still performs like a little rocket. Anyway, I am now back to loving the Note Edge again. I even prefer it over the new Notes, looks and all.
I just want to ask though, how did you manage to get the Stagefright update without updating the firmware? Software Update in the Settings won't allow me to update at all because "the operating system on my device has been modified in an unauthorised way" (I guess they're talking about the root) and Kies 3 tells me there's a new firmware available which I guess is 5.0.1 again (the N915G still doesn't have 5.1.1 as far as I know).
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Um not sure how it works on Sprint or whoever you are on. On MetroPCS/TMobile,it just showed up as an update and updated itself automatically. I didn't actually know what it was till I googled it and people said it was stage fright
I'm in Europe but I bought my phone in Australia unlocked. Maybe I'll just get a virus scanner, that should solve any current and future security issues right?
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I'm in Europe but I bought my phone in Australia unlocked. Maybe I'll just get a virus scanner, that should solve any current and future security issues right?
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Should. I really don't even know why you're scared. Do you get apps from anywhere besides Google Play Store?
Nah, I mean, some Amazon and Humble bundle apps but that's it. I'm not really that worried, just would prefer to be safe than sorry.
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Should be fine. Not sure how things work with US carier based phones overseas but what I do know is KitKat got the update. I know I did and google says Kit Kat did
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Should be fine. Not sure how things work with US carier based phones overseas but what I do know is KitKat got the update. I know I did and google says Kit Kat did
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Okay, if I can be bothered, I might unroot my phone and see if I can get the update then, then root it again afterwards. Can't be bothered to do it any time soon though
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Okay, if I can be bothered, I might unroot my phone and see if I can get the update then, then root it again afterwards. Can't be bothered to do it any time soon though
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Lol, exactly. I wouldn't be worried about your phone at all. Unless you do shady online stuff
With upcoming availability of 6.0 , has anyone tried it yet ?
I wouldn't mind trying it but with Knox and such , I figure why temp the hand of fate after my present run in with 5.1.
It looks like they can root 6.0 .
I don't know if it's available for our phones yet .
Have any of you people done the update yet and if you have , what do you think of it ?
I guess no one has played with it yet?
I believe its not available for our phones yet. As far as I've heard, as of a couple weeks ago, the beta is for Nexus devices only.
I have shamed myself !
I was reading online somewhere that it was out.
I guess that explains it.
I think I read where they already have root for it.
Oh well,this 5.1.1 dog is getting old with all the restarts.
It was good in the beginning though.
Too bad the damned thing fell flat on it's face.
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I have shamed myself !
I was reading online somewhere that it was out.
I guess that explains it.
I think I read where they already have root for it.
Oh well,this 5.1.1 dog is getting old with all the restarts.
It was good in the beginning though.
Too bad the damned thing fell flat on it's face.
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It definitely sucks that Samsung has forgotten how special this phone is. That being said, I am contempt with 4.4.4. I don't think the Marshmellow update will be that good for the Edge but I could be wrong. I am hoping I am. Marshmellow with the Edge features integrated like it is in 4.4.4 with the same or better battery life is all I want
I can only see 6.0 being worse with all security crap built into this 5.1.1 over 4.4.4.
I've come to refer to this phone as the "restart retard".
5.1.1 was great when it first was installed on my phone and when it works right,it's fast.
The problem is:
How often does it work right?
I'm good.
Two weeks ago my edge was acting retarded. I sent it back and got a refurbished one (because I refuse to get the new note 5 iPhone clone). My new edge shipped with 5.1.1 installed. Surprisingly I have no issues at all. No restarts or headaches. Fingers crossed. If T-Mobile gives us a crappy marshmallow version - if Samsung even remembers they made the phone - I will have no issues going back to kit Kat because i miss the camera button not being on the edge any longer.
I don't know if you can go back from 5.1.1 to 4.4.4 in your case ?
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e i miss the camera button not being on the edge any longer.
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Yep, was the best place for it, felt more like a camera there and was easy to access.. On screen is just a ***** of a place to put it...
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Two weeks ago my edge was acting retarded. I sent it back and got a refurbished one (because I refuse to get the new note 5 iPhone clone). My new edge shipped with 5.1.1 installed. Surprisingly I have no issues at all. No restarts or headaches. Fingers crossed. If T-Mobile gives us a crappy marshmallow version - if Samsung even remembers they made the phone - I will have no issues going back to kit Kat because i miss the camera button not being on the edge any longer.
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That was ultimately what made me go back to Kit Kat. I coulda dealt with my notifications popping up on screen every now and then but removing the shutter button from the Edge screen was too much. or someeone with moderate hands, the edge shutter made taking pics and selfies soo fricking easy
Do let us know if you are able to go down to 4.4.4. I would like to play around with some Note 5 Custom ROMs and be able to go back to 4.4.4 stock. Seems to be the best thing this phone ever got from Samsung.
Any word on how long your screen time is on 5.1.1? I only get about 5 hours on 4.4.4 stock. And yeah I also have a TMobile phone running on MetroPCS so basically TMobile
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That was ultimately what made me go back to Kit Kat. I coulda dealt with my notifications popping up on screen every now and then but removing the shutter button from the Edge screen was too much. or someeone with moderate hands, the edge shutter made taking pics and selfies soo fricking easy
Do let us know if you are able to go down to 4.4.4. I would like to play around with some Note 5 Custom ROMs and be able to go back to 4.4.4 stock. Seems to be the best thing this phone ever got from Samsung.
Any word on how long your screen time is on 5.1.1? I only get about 5 hours on 4.4.4 stock. And yeah I also have a TMobile phone running on MetroPCS so basically TMobile
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I am getting around four to four and a half hours of screen time at the moment. It does go down to about 4 on most occasions because I do a lot of YouTube. However I really don't care because I carry an extra battery - which I can't do with the note 5. With regards to going back to the KitKat version… below is a message that I got from one of the helpful subscribers on this board who help me out with this a while ago. Actually went back to KitKat about 7 months ago and I had it on my phone that I recently returned. I just have not put KitKat back on the new phone that I got last week I did not feel the need to do it at this point since I'm having no problems right now with the lollipop version that I have. If anything should happen in the next few months where I have to start all over again then I may do this process and go back to KitKat. It is very simple to do and I had no problems with the installation hopefully it works for you as well.
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Hello Steve,
To downgrade back to KitKat without tripping Knox, you will need to download an official Samsung firmware. I found official firmware at*www.sammobile.com/firmwares. Type in model number SM-915T and download the most recent version of KitKat. The most recent version of KitKat for the Note Edge on T-Mobile was dated 12-2-2014. Before you are allowed to download files from sammobile, you will need to create a free user account.
When you click on the firmware version you want, there will be instructions that tell you how to install the firmware. When I downgraded, I was told to download ODIN v3.09. I checked sammobile today and it looks like they updated the instructions to include a newer version of ODIN. Sammobile doesn't have ODIN available for download on their website, but I'm sure you can easily find it using Google or asking on XDA.
Here are some tips that is not listed in the instructions on Sammobile. If you follow their instructions and your phone is taking more than 5 minutes to fully turn on (stuck on the T-Mobile logo/screen), you will need to wipe/factory reset your Note Edge. To do this, I pulled out my battery and started my phone in recovery mode (Hold volume up and the home button while turning on the phone). Wipe the cache/factory reset your device and your Note Edge should be up and running again. To make sure that I don't receive OTA updates from T-Mobile, I disabled the software update app.
Remember, when you go through this process, you will lose all pictures/docs/downloads/etc. on your phone. Backup what you need before downgrading.
Good luck with the downgrade. If all goes well, you will definitely enjoy everything that made the Note Edge unique.
Getting really pissed about this broken software. I went to the dark side...
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Getting really pissed about this broken software. I went to the dark side...
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The Dark Side?
The Radius Kid said:
The Dark Side?
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I presume… CrApple?
Yeah, I really hated doing that, but the consistency of performance and firmware updates just can't be beat. Apple Pay is a pleasure to use. The fingerprint scanner is ultra fast. Very good battery life. Yada yada yada... the list goes on. I do miss the Edge's screen color and resolution. I also miss the wonderful alarm clock of the Edge. Perhaps when Marshmallow comes out for it, the new firmware, I hope, will fix all the issues that this past update broke.
What cpu does the note edge have?
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I don't know if you can go back from 5.1.1 to 4.4.4 in your case ?
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I did not take a look at your comment until today. I was able to go back yo kit kay with the 5.0.1 version of lollipop. Today I tried to dod the same procedure as before and odin gave me a fail notice. I thought it was a debugging issue bit I cut it on and it still did not take. Sis you know why and if so is there a way around it? I should not have opened my big mouth about how smooth things were going. Now after the new update to 5.1.1 I get unsent texts and YouTube can't find a stream half the time. Ou want kit Kat back. FML.
Things are getting interesting.
It seems over at Yellow Bullet forums there's a gentleman who has been forced an upgrade to Marshmallow from Lollipop and it's killing his battery
He says he had auto updates turned off and it was still forced on him.
I understand he's a Verizon customer as well.
http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1661969
This doesn't sound good.
Any Verizon users on here experience the same thing?
Any experiences to tell?
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That was ultimately what made me go back to Kit Kat. I coulda dealt with my notifications popping up on screen every now and then but removing the shutter button from the Edge screen was too much. or someeone with moderate hands, the edge shutter made taking pics and selfies soo fricking easy
Do let us know if you are able to go down to 4.4.4. I would like to play around with some Note 5 Custom ROMs and be able to go back to 4.4.4 stock. Seems to be the best thing this phone ever got from Samsung.
Any word on how long your screen time is on 5.1.1? I only get about 5 hours on 4.4.4 stock. And yeah I also have a TMobile phone running on MetroPCS so basically TMobile
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I'm getting about 2 hours average screen on time on 5.1.1. HORRIBLE. Im on Sprint
Used to get 4 hours on 5.0.1
I am debating now if I shouldkeep the root or move to mmarshmallow. How smooth is marshmallow? Battery life? Does Hotspot still work?
I'd keep root.
My usb port started acting really wonky and after attempting everything I could think of, I decided to try the verizon repair assistant hoping that the 1% chance it would be a software issue. Unrooted, ran the repair assistant and next thing I know, my phone is on marshmallow, the software doesn't repair sh*t, just wipes everything, installs latest rom and then puts files back. Does not return your app data.
Anyway, long story short, my battery seems to drain quicker now, I can't deal with all the ads and I lost years of app data. Stick with root, nothing special with marshmallow.
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I'd keep root.
My usb port started acting really wonky and after attempting everything I could think of, I decided to try the verizon repair assistant hoping that the 1% chance it would be a software issue. Unrooted, ran the repair assistant and next thing I know, my phone is on marshmallow, the software doesn't repair sh*t, just wipes everything, installs latest rom and then puts files back. Does not return your app data.
Anyway, long story short, my battery seems to drain quicker now, I can't deal with all the ads and I lost years of app data. Stick with root, nothing special with marshmallow.
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Shoot, wish that would have been a software issue for you. Still tempted to see how marshmallow runs. My phone seems to be running slow.
I've had root on my phone's since the original Motorola droid days. Now that we haven't been able to unlock bootloader root is almost pointless that we can't install custom kernels, or true Roms. I've had more options being on marshmallow than 0C3 or 0E2. I don't use hotspot so I'm not sure if it still works but I was reading that people have been able to get it going without root. Android and Samsung pay works now that I'm not rooted. Samsung's themes work very well and canake the whole touch whiz experience bearable. All the addware that comes along with not being rooted is easily hidden. People complain about that it's still installed and using space on our phones but for me I haven't noticed them.
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I've had root on my phone's since the original Motorola droid days. Now that we haven't been able to unlock bootloader root is almost pointless that we can't install custom kernels, or true Roms. I've had more options being on marshmallow than 0C3 or 0E2. I don't use hotspot so I'm not sure if it still works but I was reading that people have been able to get it going without root. Android and Samsung pay works now that I'm not rooted. Samsung's themes work very well and canake the whole touch whiz experience bearable. All the addware that comes along with not being rooted is easily hidden. People complain about that it's still installed and using space on our phones but for me I haven't noticed them.
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Do you know the best way to go back to stock? I've been on 5.0.2 OE2 rooted since the beginning but I'm wanting to move over to Marshmallow stock and get some of those apps back that don't support rooted phones.
So my big question is foxfi working on marshmallow foe the unlimited plan?
So my big question is foxfi working on marshmallow foe the unlimited plan?
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Do you know the best way to go back to stock? I've been on 5.0.2 OE2 rooted since the beginning but I'm wanting to move over to Marshmallow stock and get some of those apps back that don't support rooted phones.
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All I did was uninstall the apps which required root, then I unrooted through SU and then connected to the verizon upgrade assistant. You can also use the Samsung smart switch. Before I connected to the upgrade assistant and smart switch, but after I unrooted through SU, I rebooted my phone a few times and the custom unlock boot screen also changed to normal.
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I've had root on my phone's since the original Motorola droid days. Now that we haven't been able to unlock bootloader root is almost pointless that we can't install custom kernels, or true Roms. I've had more options being on marshmallow than 0C3 or 0E2. I don't use hotspot so I'm not sure if it still works but I was reading that people have been able to get it going without root. Android and Samsung pay works now that I'm not rooted. Samsung's themes work very well and canake the whole touch whiz experience bearable. All the addware that comes along with not being rooted is easily hidden. People complain about that it's still installed and using space on our phones but for me I haven't noticed them.
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I've been rooting since the HTC Hero days and I disagree. Although we have lost a lot with the locked bootloader, it's not pointless, root still lets you keep all of your old app data with titanium backup which I personally had stored for years. It's also great for blocking ads, being on day 4 of no root, all these ads are really annoying.
I'd love to be back on OE2!
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Works perfectly. I switched from OE2 to MM with no regrets. Get package disabler pro and get rid of all the bloat and it's super smooth with great battery life. The only thing I miss about not having root is I can't use better battery stats anymore. The locked bootloader and complete lack of updated ROMs was a much bigger deal to me.
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Do you know the best way to go back to stock? I've been on 5.0.2 OE2 rooted since the beginning but I'm wanting to move over to Marshmallow stock and get some of those apps back that don't support rooted phones.
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Download stock firmware from Sammobile and flash with Odin.
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Do you know the best way to go back to stock? I've been on 5.0.2 OE2 rooted since the beginning but I'm wanting to move over to Marshmallow stock and get some of those apps back that don't support rooted phones.
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The Marshmallow Odin Tar was linked in another thread. You should be able to just flash this and factory reset through the stock recovery and be set. I haven't done this but that's the route I'll be taking when I do decide to upgrade
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Shoot, wish that would have been a software issue for you. Still tempted to see how marshmallow runs. My phone seems to be running slow.
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So did you ever make the move?
Yes, best decision I have made marshmallow is faster and smoother, foxfi works, and you can you samsung pay.
marshmallow good, lock screen bad
Yea, marshmallow works very good on the S6.. smooth, good battery life, looks good...but that freaking swipe screen! Having to swipe the screen just to get to your lock screen is useless and irritating and people have been asking Google to change it since lollipop. I was hoping marshmallow would be different but no
Looks like no ability to root now either
I made the jump. Best decision ever. Very polished and no more force close like 5.0.2. Can still tether with foxfi which is what I pretty much only used root for.
How is the latest update? I'm still rooted and thinking about going back to stock.
So I'll try to keep this as short as I can. Basically, this is my gf's phone that she gave to me. Ever since it updated to 6.0.1, she's had nothing but problems with it. Constant freezing, lagging, restarts, SMS trouble, poor battery life, you name it. Recently AT&T rolled out an update and her phone upgraded automatically. After that it pretty much bricked. The update failed for some reason and the phone got stuck in Download Mode. And then it didn't turn on for almost a week. Since her phone is a couple months out of warranty, she was forced to upgrade to an S8, and she gave me this Note Edge.
Yesterday I spent a few hours trying to fix it. I finally managed to get it to power back on and flash a PIT file to it, then flashed a fresh install of 6.0.1 to it. It worked okay for maybe 10 minutes, but then it would reboot every time you tried to lock or unlock the screen, and was still super laggy. So I decided to to give it another try and I managed to downgrade it to 5.1.1. It seems to be working great at the moment (fingers crossed).
So after reading here in the forums, it seems that you can't root AT&T Note Edge's. Bummer. I was hoping I'd be able to disable updates on this phone, unlock it, and use it on a new carrier (I think Verizon is trying to kill my Note 4 now).
So my question is, is there any way that I can keep this phone on 5.1.1? I know this sounds stupid, but I'm not sure how AT&T updates work, if they're forced or you just get annoying pop-ups. Right now I'm reluctant to connect the phone to WiFi, and there's no SIM card in it. Either way I'd just like to disable updates.
I haven't messed with rooting since my S4, which was about 3.5 years ago, but if there's something I can do to keep this phone on 5.1.1, I want to try it. Thanks.
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So I'll try to keep this as short as I can. Basically, this is my gf's phone that she gave to me. Ever since it updated to 6.0.1, she's had nothing but problems with it. Constant freezing, lagging, restarts, SMS trouble, poor battery life, you name it. Recently AT&T rolled out an update and her phone upgraded automatically. After that it pretty much bricked. The update failed for some reason and the phone got stuck in Download Mode. And then it didn't turn on for almost a week. Since her phone is a couple months out of warranty, she was forced to upgrade to an S8, and she gave me this Note Edge.
Yesterday I spent a few hours trying to fix it. I finally managed to get it to power back on and flash a PIT file to it, then flashed a fresh install of 6.0.1 to it. It worked okay for maybe 10 minutes, but then it would reboot every time you tried to lock or unlock the screen, and was still super laggy. So I decided to to give it another try and I managed to downgrade it to 5.1.1. It seems to be working great at the moment (fingers crossed).
So after reading here in the forums, it seems that you can't root AT&T Note Edge's. Bummer. I was hoping I'd be able to disable updates on this phone, unlock it, and use it on a new carrier (I think Verizon is trying to kill my Note 4 now).
So my question is, is there any way that I can keep this phone on 5.1.1? I know this sounds stupid, but I'm not sure how AT&T updates work, if they're forced or you just get annoying pop-ups. Right now I'm reluctant to connect the phone to WiFi, and there's no SIM card in it. Either way I'd just like to disable updates.
I haven't messed with rooting since my S4, which was about 3.5 years ago, but if there's something I can do to keep this phone on 5.1.1, I want to try it. Thanks.
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You should be able to turn off auto updates in the about phone area of the settings menu.
You might want to turn off the picture sync'ing in the settings area of gallery....three dots,top right corner.
I originally used the Dirty Santa routine on my Verizon VS995, so it remained on VS99513A for a couple of years. Had all manner of issues over time - apps "failing to respond", YouTube not displaying video but rather black screens, green-screen crashes, etc. Finally had enough and used the LGUP process to return to stock and unroot, of course. I probably (assuming, anyway) could have gone right to the latest Oreo firmware with LGUP, but decided to go to the stock version of VS99513A and then just do the many system updates to get current.
It's now happily sitting on Oreo, and knock on wood it's like having a new phone! It's so much smoother, YouTube is working, lol, battery life is an order of magnitude better and it's working like a phone should work. No one knows the future, of course, but today, I'm happy.
Just passing this along, but I've gone from being ready to trash this thing to being able to enjoy it again without worrying about having to dump some $$$ into something else.
I had originally rooted to get around the Verizon mobile-hotspot check, but I have an unlimited plan that includes it anyway, now, so that's no longer an issue.
Possible placebo effect...
A clean stock unrooted firmware may run smoother than a few custom roms, but not smoother than a rooted version of the exact same rom.
I wouldn't give up on root, even if the best ever unrootable phone was given to me for free (Ad-blocking being the primary reason)
Prowler_gr said:
Possible placebo effect...
A clean stock unrooted firmware may run smoother than a few custom roms, but not smoother than a rooted version of the exact same rom.
I wouldn't give up on root, even if the best ever unrootable phone was given to me for free (Ad-blocking being the primary reason)
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Blokada DNS changer. Also working without root. All problems gone. :good: for me the main reason for root is to prevent screen retention. The sucked soooo hart. If there would be an option without root I would also go with an unrooted stock fw.
Prowler_gr said:
Possible placebo effect...
A clean stock unrooted firmware may run smoother than a few custom roms, but not smoother than a rooted version of the exact same rom.
I wouldn't give up on root, even if the best ever unrootable phone was given to me for free (Ad-blocking being the primary reason)
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It's not even a close comparison in my case. Admittedly I'm on Oreo now and not the original Nougat the phone came with (and was rooted with), but it's literally a night and day difference. It wasn't just performance - it was extreme instability, apps that wouldn't work or would constantly go into "not responding" mode, green screens, battery life that was awful to the point where it nearly always needed to be connected to a charger, etc. I'd tap on an app or a function in an app before, and I'd literally have to wait and wait for something to happen at times.
Now? Lightning fast and smooth operation, stability where there was none before, etc. And, as stated, for what I really needed root before (bypassing vendor check for mobile hotspot), it's no longer an issue due to the phone plan I'm on.
I'm not knocking rooting, so don't misunderstand. But for my experience with this phone, going back to stock where I could actually update the version of the OS, as well, has made all the difference in the world for my user experience. YMMV.
Interesting... I haven't tried stock Oreo yet but in every time I flash a new stock rom the phone runs great for 6 months then starts lagging.
oooh meee TOOO! me! meeeee!
Heyitsrick said:
I originally used the Dirty Santa routine on my Verizon VS995, so it remained on VS99513A for a couple of years. Had all manner of issues over time - apps "failing to respond", YouTube not displaying video but rather black screens, green-screen crashes, etc. Finally had enough and used the LGUP process to return to stock and unroot, of course. I probably (assuming, anyway) could have gone right to the latest Oreo firmware with LGUP, but decided to go to the stock version of VS99513A and then just do the many system updates to get current.
It's now happily sitting on Oreo, and knock on wood it's like having a new phone! It's so much smoother, YouTube is working, lol, battery life is an order of magnitude better and it's working like a phone should work. No one knows the future, of course, but today, I'm happy.
Just passing this along, but I've gone from being ready to trash this thing to being able to enjoy it again without worrying about having to dump some $$$ into something else.
I had originally rooted to get around the Verizon mobile-hotspot check, but I have an unlimited plan that includes it anyway, now, so that's no longer an issue.
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Between the GIGANTIC pain in the ass that it was to root this phone (I have a VS995 rooted and on 13a ever since) and all the problems that rooting has caused I'd be ready to undo it all anyway. But due to some problem with internal storage* that started a couple weeks ago, I was fed-up and factory reset the phone. When it boots normally, a check in "about" shows the software status as "modified" but root checker says its not rooted, superSU can't find root (I installed it from play store).. Tried to update via the "system updates" in settings (could not get it to show developer options either).
* The storage issue: I have 50 gigs internal (or something similar) and I get a message that the storage is full and some apps may not work. Not possible, but I humored it and uninstalled everything, cleared cache, downloads cleared, etc ... still showing +/-1 gb free space avail. Factory reset, appears stock, but free space STILL less than 1 GB.
Regretted rooting this phone almost immediately since I still couldn't get rid of certain apps, I had to deal with the camera issues, etc... The only thing positive about it was that my work was unable to install their MDM crap (Mobile Iron shielding Gsuite etc). But anyway, it doesn't look like I'll be able to update the system - I tried it and now it boots to twrp, or boots regularly and then loops around to twrp again. I'm looking for the easiest way to get the phone working (with the persistent problem of internalstorage being full for no reason fixed) and at least reasonably updated. Don't care if it's rooted or not really.
Do you or does anyone have a link to a "play by play" for whatever might work? Its been too long since I rooted it for me to remember the nuances of the procedure so its safe to say that I don't really understand how Android works all that well, so instructions like, "flash xxx 3.2 then flash back to 2 then fastboot and load yer ROM but don't forget the dalvik blah blah" won't work... I'm looking for the idiot's version with hand-holding and everything.
Interesting analysis................ I mainly rooted my older phones due to the need for the mobile hotspot without paying VZ extra charges. However, now that I have the VS995, I was able to download and use the Foxfi app (I paid for the Pro upgrade license) so this left me thinking, do I really need to root my V20 at all? In the past, you couldn't run apps that ran many WIFI tools and other tech'y things, but it seems much of that has changed. I don't run custom ROMs so maybe I don't need to root. Would be glad to hear rebuttals on the subject
I received a new VS995 last week and I flash h910 to get FM radio. I could not be happier as I'm on OREO and the device is working perfectly without any issue whatsoever and with latest mk2000 kernel (2.2 beta) general interface performance is working very well - as it should. Hotspot needed a little workaround bit it wasn't too difficult. I wouldn't dream of going back to stock!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79939652&postcount=269
I know it's not straight to bootloader unlock and root this phone but it's worth the trouble. I hope my new fone will last and last untill manufactures change mind about removable batter and horrible new aspect ratio! No thanks V30 !
You're right.
There's no good reason to root the v20. Even rooted you can't do things that other phones can do, like enabling monitor mode on the Wi-Fi. Nor have I been able to get an external Wi-Fi adapter to work on it.
0per said:
There's no good reason to root the v20. Even rooted you can't do things that other phones can do, like enabling monitor mode on the Wi-Fi. Nor have I been able to get an external Wi-Fi adapter to work on it.
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YOU ARE WRONG.
AD BLOCK Yeah they have rootless ad block but they work like ****
screen burn fixes. hows the ghosting?
titanium backup still best option for absolutely all apps getting backed up.
Sorry i have run root too long i cant live without it anymore.
is this happening to just verizon version of LG V20? anyone?
is this happening to just verizon version of LG V20? anyone?