Ive experienced skipping and stuttering when listening to audio over A2DP (Bluetooth) on both the original GB leak adn the official 2.3.3 update from LG & T-Mobile. The skipping and stuttering has improved on the newest update, but it def is still a major issue when doing ANYTHING besides listening to music. This occurs on ALL LG .3.3 based ROMS such as EB107, the Stock OTA, and WeaponG2x.
My hunch: It seems any type of IO access causes a skip, as anything strenuous like listing apps (settings), cruising around the launcher, opening closing apps, etc causes stuttering, sometimes to the point that its literally impossible to listen to. Its less "skippy" when the screen is on, phone left alone with the music player open. It skips\stutters more if the music player is in the background.
Anyone else expericne this? Please try this on multiple sources (Pandora, music, AudioGalaxy, Youtube) before stating it works or doesn't, as Ive found certain types of playback (such as Youtube) are more likely to exhibit the issue.
Ive tried to diagnose this & have had very little luck. At the moment, I cant listen to music and do ANYTHING else on my phone w/o it skipping and stuttering, which shouldn't be the case for a dual-core android.
Anyone have anything to add? Possible solutions? Fixes?
Thanks!
Same issues here. I've learned to just not use the phone at all while listening.
Also using the camera while using Stereo BT shuts it off completely.
I've had issues with it on the MLB At-Bat app, and that's even when I'm not touching the phone at all...
Hello all,
I got My VZW branded M8 on launch day and have been getting used to it and checking 20 times a day to see if a perm root solution has been found or better yet an S-Off method. On to my issue in the past few days I've had some time to listen to some mp3s from an SD card on the M8's stock music app and I have found that there is an audible stutter randomly occurring 3-5 times per song. The same mp3 played in poweramp plays smooth. The same SD card played the same songs smoothly in my DNA. So I'm lead to believe there some issue with the stock music app. I tested with screen timeout disabled, motion gestures disabled and still got the same thing.
Did anyone notice the same issue or is it just my phone.
It sounds like song skipped a beat or someone bumping a CD player, not really a sound but just the timing got out of sync for an instant. The first time I just thought it was a error in mp3 then I picked up that it was happening continually but could not be reproduced by replaying the same section of music. I love poweramp but the stock music player should function correctly on a flagship phone and IMO. I like the HTC stock music app as it lets me stream music from my DLNA server on my network, so I like it to function properly.
Kind Regards,
mc
Maybe try a factory reset since its obviously not a hardware issue if a third party app is working perfectly. Only music player i use is the stock HTC Music app and never had any issues with it across the board. Works perfect here even streaming over BT in the car or BT stereo headsets.
No stuttering here, but i've had tracks reset to start after short inactivity. I listen to audiobooks and had to go use Google Play Music because my chapters kept starting over after pausing them.
mc_365 said:
Hello all,
I got My VZW branded M8 on launch day and have been getting used to it and checking 20 times a day to see if a perm root solution has been found or better yet an S-Off method. On to my issue in the past few days I've had some time to listen to some mp3s from an SD card on the M8's stock music app and I have found that there is an audible stutter randomly occurring 3-5 times per song. The same mp3 played in poweramp plays smooth. The same SD card played the same songs smoothly in my DNA. So I'm lead to believe there some issue with the stock music app. I tested with screen timeout disabled, motion gestures disabled and still got the same thing.
Did anyone notice the same issue or is it just my phone.
It sounds like song skipped a beat or someone bumping a CD player, not really a sound but just the timing got out of sync for an instant. The first time I just thought it was a error in mp3 then I picked up that it was happening continually but could not be reproduced by replaying the same section of music. I love poweramp but the stock music player should function correctly on a flagship phone and IMO. I like the HTC stock music app as it lets me stream music from my DLNA server on my network, so I like it to function properly.
Kind Regards,
mc
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I've actually been having this issue but over Bluetooth only but my audio never skips when I have a 3.5mm jack plugged in. I'm getting a new Bluetooth device and I'll report back on my findings.
Have not had this issue with my Verizon M8. I have all my music (about 20gb) on the sd card, and normally play through the 3.5mm jack.
The one thing I did notice is, with my old htc phone, when playing music and a notification came in, it would interrupt the music and play the notification. I liked this because I would know to look at my phone. With this one, there is NO interruption of the music. So I can be in my car for a half hour playing music, and not know of any texts or emails unless I look at the phone. Anyone know a solution?
UPDATE: I tried using another Bluetooth device and the same problem occurred. Also to note, I'm having this issue with the stock music app & PlayerPro. However, if I reboot my phone the problem does not occur and I'm able to play music through my Bluetooth device without stutters.
@mc_365: Trying to see if we have anything in common. When music stutters, are you connected via Bluetooth? By any chance are you rooted & did you freeze any apps? Do you have the problem while connected to a 3.5mm jack?
UPDATE (9:32a PT): I just tried a factory reset & I'm still having the problem. Anybody have any other suggestions?
compir99 said:
UPDATE: I tried using another Bluetooth device and the same problem occurred. Also to note, I'm having this issue with the stock music app & PlayerPro. However, if I reboot my phone the problem does not occur and I'm able to play music through my Bluetooth device without stutters. I have not tried a factory reset yet.
@mc_365: Trying to see if we have anything in common. When music stutters, are you connected via Bluetooth? By any chance are you rooted & did you freeze any apps? Do you have the problem while connected to a 3.5mm jack?
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I'm not rooted and trying to play music through my Camaro bluetooth from Play Music it just constantly skips. I am running on ART and will switch back to dalvik to see if that fixes it. If not, I'm going to exchange my phone or return it all together.
UPDATE:
I switched back to Dalvik and did a factory reset to make sure everything was done properly. Now Google Play Music doesn't skip when I play music through my car. Are any of you on ART runtime by chance?
I just came back from Verizon & exchanged my M8; I'll have to check to see if that helped.
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Hello all,
I got My VZW branded M8 on launch day and have been getting used to it and checking 20 times a day to see if a perm root solution has been found or better yet an S-Off method. On to my issue in the past few days I've had some time to listen to some mp3s from an SD card on the M8's stock music app and I have found that there is an audible stutter randomly occurring 3-5 times per song. The same mp3 played in poweramp plays smooth. The same SD card played the same songs smoothly in my DNA. So I'm lead to believe there some issue with the stock music app. I tested with screen timeout disabled, motion gestures disabled and still got the same thing.
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Trying to see if we have anything in common. When music stutters, are you connected via Bluetooth? By any chance are you rooted & did you freeze any apps? Do you have the problem while connected to a 3.5mm jack?
deeznuts said:
Maybe try a factory reset since its obviously not a hardware issue if a third party app is working perfectly. Only music player i use is the stock HTC Music app and never had any issues with it across the board. Works perfect here even streaming over BT in the car or BT stereo headsets.
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Are you playing music from your SD card or internal memory?
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I'm not rooted and trying to play music through my Camaro bluetooth from Play Music it just constantly skips. I am running on ART and will switch back to dalvik to see if that fixes it. If not, I'm going to exchange my phone or return it all together.
UPDATE:
I switched back to Dalvik and did a factory reset to make sure everything was done properly. Now Google Play Music doesn't skip when I play music through my car. Are any of you on ART runtime by chance?
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I never messed around with changing Dalvik/ART; I checked and I'm running Dalvik. Are you playing music off your SD card or internal memory over Bluetooth when you're having this problem?
I'm just playing mp3s from SD card on a regular pair of earphones. I think maybe my issue is the HTC decoder just doesn't like the CD rip I was playing, maybe the bitrate or the error handling within the app or something like that. I've played other mp3s now and can't say that this is something that is consistently happening.
I have all my songs on external sd card. I can try streaming Pandora in my car and see if any stuttering If that makes a difference? I did though download a few so to internal storage and played over Bluetooth in my car on the way home without stuttering. Played the same as the songs on my external sd card.
I have an obnoxious stutter on the Netflix app through speakers and headphone jack. Noticed it through play movies today also. Reset did nothing. Sadly it isn't noticeable for it to pass through the replacement check
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I get the occasional skip when streaming over bluetooth from my SD card. I'd suspect it has more to do with the I/O read ahead or scheduler than anything. It seems to happen whether or not the screen is on, so I don't think it's a processor hang or anything like that.
I hope this update helps anyone with the same issue. :fingers-crossed:
*knock on wood
I noticed that the skips were less and far between if I was playing music over Bluetooth using the internal memory. So what I did is take another SD card and played music on that. This resulted in no skips that I could tell. Perhaps it might be a defective SD card or bad format so I reformatted the SD card completely (full not quick) and so far I'm having less skips in music. I ordered up the 128 GB SanDisk card & hopefully I won't have any skips using that card.
I'm thinking once we get a permanent root & S-Off we can try putting AOSP on our M8s & see if that eliminates the issue completely. :fingers-crossed:
If anybody else can share any suggestions on what to try, that would be great!
sitlet said:
Have not had this issue with my Verizon M8. I have all my music (about 20gb) on the sd card, and normally play through the 3.5mm jack.
The one thing I did notice is, with my old htc phone, when playing music and a notification came in, it would interrupt the music and play the notification. I liked this because I would know to look at my phone. With this one, there is NO interruption of the music. So I can be in my car for a half hour playing music, and not know of any texts or emails unless I look at the phone. Anyone know a solution?
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This is the problem I'm experiencing that brought me to this thread. Did you ever find a solution? Both Google Play Music and Stock HTC Music play over the notification. My podcast app, Pocket Casts, appropriately gives focus to notification sounds every time.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2732264
same problem, fix seems to be something to do with viper rom.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2732264
same problem, fix seems to be something to do with viper rom.
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In sum, the potential fix is to change the read-ahead buffer from 512 to 1024, and the guy said it worked for several days with no further updates. He happened to be running Viper when he made the changes... apparently it uses the stock kernel. I am running CleanROM with stock kernel, so I just installed trickster and changed my read-ahead buffer to 1024. I'll report back if that makes a difference. There was one follow-up comment that it didn't make a difference in the stock ROM (edit - ahh... from broprah... any update to that?).
FWIW, I have been noticing this issue a lot BUT I only get it when streaming to my BT earbuds (with HTC Music, Google Play Music, and Pocket Casts). This stuttering does not happen when I use wired earbuds or playing over BT in my car. I understand the scenarios are different for everyone, but that's my own situation.
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In sum, the potential fix is to change the read-ahead buffer from 512 to 1024, and the guy said it worked for several days with no further updates. He happened to be running Viper when he made the changes... apparently it uses the stock kernel. I am running CleanROM with stock kernel, so I just installed trickster and changed my read-ahead buffer to 1024. I'll report back if that makes a difference. There was one follow-up comment that it didn't make a difference in the stock ROM (edit - ahh... from broprah... any update to that?).
FWIW, I have been noticing this issue a lot BUT I only get it when streaming to my BT earbuds (with HTC Music, Google Play Music, and Pocket Casts). This stuttering does not happen when I use wired earbuds or playing over BT in my car. I understand the scenarios are different for everyone, but that's my own situation.
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I ended up flashing Viper and I haven't experienced any stuttering since. In poking around, I see that changing the read ahead in the built in system tools only changes the internal read ahead. Further poking revealed that the external read ahead is preset to 4096kb, which could be the solution in the end.
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I ended up flashing Viper and I haven't experienced any stuttering since. In poking around, I see that changing the read ahead in the built in system tools only changes the internal read ahead. Further poking revealed that the external read ahead is preset to 4096kb, which could be the solution in the end.
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I don't see a differentiation in Trickster. Do you know if that's just a Viper setting?
I was using FauxTool to check and change settings, regardless of kernel.
No such luck with my read ahead change. :/
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I just recently installed CM12 nightly on my Oneplus and was listening to music using poweramp. once in awhile i would get some static noise so i switched to usuing the stock music player. when i use the audio FX equalizer with it, then songs would sound as if it were played by a robot. i was wondering if anyone have also had this issue and if there is a solution to this
known issue... there are many other threads for this problem.
For some people AK Kernel (087) fixed the problem. Just flashed new build and new kernel and can report tomorrow.
One of the quirks of our idol 3 is that when playing music from sd card it occasionally hiccups which can be very annoying. I'm told that Poweramp has the ability to "adjust audio priority" and get around this issue. I'd like to know if there are any free players that can also get around this issue? It's VERY annoying in the car both for music and audiobooks.
i listens to songs everyday to and back from work but yet to hear stuttering with default player. could it be sd card?
saw the other thread your on bluetooth. havent tried that yet.
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gavolo said:
i listens to songs everyday to and back from work but yet to hear stuttering with default player. could it be sd card?
saw the other thread your on bluetooth. havent tried that yet.
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Guess I need to plug some headphones in and listen for a while to nail down bluetooth as the contributing factor. Thanks for the reply!
Possibly Bluetooth issue
famewolf said:
Guess I need to plug some headphones in and listen for a while to nail down bluetooth as the contributing factor. Thanks for the reply!
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It may be a Bluetooth issue. I had the exact same issue with my OnePlus One when it was connected to Bluetooth on my Pioneer FH-X700BT stereo in my car. That is a good description of the audio playback "hiccuping". I actually have never tried using an Aux line from the audio jack to this same stereo, but I don't recall it skipping during playback on headphones, but I don't use headphones much either. I have an Aux cable at home. I'll try it later or maybe tomorrow and let you know what I find.
Just found this on Reddit about the same thing happening to others using Galaxy Note 4 and other phones when using Bluetooth as well.
https://www.reddit.com/r/galaxynote4/comments/364vo3/has_anyone_had_any_bluetooth_hiccups_especially/
I use MixZing for static MP3's and I like it. I use Pandora One for streaming audio and love it. Listen everyday. Speaking of Pandora, they just updated their app this weekend and they returned the lock screen widget! I think it was not included on the lockscreen within Lollipop? My KitKat phone had and still has it.
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It may be a Bluetooth issue. I had the exact same issue with my OnePlus One when it was connected to Bluetooth on my Pioneer FH-X700BT stereo in my car. That is a good description of the audio playback "hiccuping". I actually have never tried using an Aux line from the audio jack to this same stereo, but I don't recall it skipping during playback on headphones, but I don't use headphones much either. I have an Aux cable at home. I'll try it later or maybe tomorrow and let you know what I find.
Just found this on Reddit about the same thing happening to others using Galaxy Note 4 and other phones when using Bluetooth as well.
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Interesting.. I have the same unit in my car and have experienced this as well. I noticed it would do this with my LG Volt when streaming Spotify on BT. I haven't really tested it with this phone yet so I'm not sure if the issue will still be there. I'll have to check it out.
I read some articles indicating you can either 1) keep screen on or 2) keep wifi off to prevent the skip. Something about bluetooth priority dropping while in sleep mode.....now they may be on to something...the battery saver I use doesn't keep wifi on all the time but it does occasionally turn it on to look for familiar hotspots to connect to....it's possible my skips are occuring when wifi is coming on.....another user reported calls had issues as well on bluetooth when wifi was on.
I listen to media on my sd card through headphones and speakers and I'm still noticing the stuttering when WiFi is off. I have noticed that it's a lot less frequent after the update though.
I use n7player, and what I found out about it amazes me.. The actual sound is better with this app than any other on stock rom, and I tried over 20 players including poweramp,shuttle (similar sound q with no folder search in free ver), equalizer+, google music, jbl music app and all the apps you can find in google play store from 0 to 100 in top section..
The menu is intuitive with name chose method, and also looks nice.. Features like equaliser, play on when headphones plugged in, etc are also here..
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Nikola Jovanovic said:
I use n7player, and what I found out about it amazes me.. The actual sound is better with this app than any other on stock rom, and I tried over 20 players including poweramp,shuttle (similar sound q with no folder search in free ver), equalizer+, google music, jbl music app and all the apps you can find in google play store from 0 to 100 in top section..
The menu is intuitive with name chose method, and also looks nice.. Features like equaliser, play on when headphones plugged in, etc are also here..
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Interesting. I'll have to experiment with this a little. I used N7Player for awhile a couple of years ago, but I didn't like the excess of it and all the files it left strewn in every audio directory I had. Mostly, I use Music Folder Player Full and have most of the time over the last few years. It's clean, simple, to the point. What it doesn't offer, I don't want, anyway. But I don't think I've compared audio quality between different apps.
I may install Viper 4 Android on a different phone and see what that does. That's not a player, of course.
This phone + viper4 + music app in your choice is a win combo.. Just wondering if we ever get viper4
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This phone + viper4 + music app in your choice is a win combo.. Just wondering if we ever get viper4
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What's stopping you?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191223
I'm waiting for custom rom for now
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I'm waiting for custom rom for now
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I've flashed installable zip's of viper4android on some of my other devices....as long as you take a backup first there shouldn't be any issues.
Viper 4 A works on idol3, before that you have to change build.prop lines, selinux to permissive and istall busybox.
EDIT : Now can used without selinux set to permissive, just flash the zip trough recovery
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-tmobile/general/viper4android-stock-kernel-easy-steps-t3130806
famewolf said:
One of the quirks of our idol 3 is that when playing music from sd card it occasionally hiccups which can be very annoying. I'm told that Poweramp has the ability to "adjust audio priority" and get around this issue. I'd like to know if there are any free players that can also get around this issue? It's VERY annoying in the car both for music and audiobooks.
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I had this problem with my OnePlus One device and the only thing that completely fixed the "hiccuping" was to go to Bluetooth and disable "Phone", only having "Media" selected. It's like it was receiving interference from the phone via bluetooth.