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All i want in this thread is only if you are interested in developing/themeing/ect. for our Open Android Alliance Project. Post requiring info needed.
Open-Android-Alliance Create a fully open source Android OS
The new site is officially up: Home of Open Android Alliance register now everyone
As you all are probably aware Cyanogen has been sent a Cease and Desist order.
The purpose here comes from an idea of Sr. member Doooshty where we should
use this opportunity to get everyone come together and create alternatives to Google'
apps we are calling on anyone with experience who is up to the challenge to set this
straight and out "Android" Google.
People we are rebuilding android as we see fit if you want to Frankenstein it to hell open another
thread... OPEN SOURCE ALL THE WAY if i can not get the source one way or another it is not being used
This however is not about Getting back at google or who was in the wrong in the C&D
This is solely a project about distributing a *Flavor* of android that is fully customizeable
and does not rely on google or other copyrights...
As of now the goal is a Rom (No google at all) that we can make calls from and text
I would like all apps to be developed in house so it is easy to get in contact with the developer if we
want to make any changes or get intouch with the origional developer to make sure they approve.
All apps to be open source not just free and require writtin permission from origional developer giving permission to edit (mainly visually)
THIS IS ALL EXPERIMENTAL AT THIS TIME
We are going to need several things from devs such as:
1. New app store
slideme.org
anddevstore (cant find exact link)
various other new open source projects in process of being developed
Obsidiandesire is looking into the android store
2. New email system
Dev needed
3. New Navigation
Dev needed
4. New IM client
Dev needed
5. YouTube
Dev needed
Talk of porting a .flv player but unclear about content copyright
6. Setup Wizard
(App developers is it possible to create a simple app that is basicly
a drop down with all major carriers APN settings that will
automaticly set at first boot?)
irrenhaus discovered it is a only database change. Any app developers
want to look into this with him?
7. Sync Alternative
Dev needed
8. Browser
(steel, default, opera)
Dev needed
I would like to get permission before using them if possible.
9. Making apps talk to each other.
Dev needed
10. Space for development files.
Anyone?
we Should open one of them google project pages jk
11. We need a centeral "stock" theme perhaps we can get some prototypes drawn up. this is so the visual
designers have something they can go against so every app has a sort of "flow" to it and color schemes are
not changing drastically through every app. (this can be changed later)
90% of useful apps come from this website in some way so i believe along with Doooshty and Cyanogen
that this can be accomplished...
CALLING ALL DEVS!!!! If you are interested in taking android away from the chains
of the man post here or send me a private message.
Can anyone create a Rom with no google what so ever to start with so we can see where
we need to go from there?
This is coming along nicely (other then the occasional "This is dumb blah blah blah") I want to thank everyone for taking an interest in this.
Now while other ways may work like loop holes and loading close source apps on the user end at this point it will require one of 2 things either 1. Each developer does it thier own way (which is perfectly fine). or 2 automatically import the closed source apps in via script (which im sure could be painless in itself) while this is easy the visual customization would be alot less user friendly AFAIK such as theming. Say you got that nice new manup theme everything just flows together but u open up a stock browser/email/whatever it really throws off the experiance I may be completely wrong but this is what I think.
Dont get me wrong i love google but id rather not have them stopping development right as we got something new rolling.
Stop Talk. Do Work.
Just to save you some time, Google Maps is already freely available from the Android Market:
http://www.cyrket.com/package/com.google.android.apps.maps
I don't know about the other apps though...
Alright
Alright that's good but if there is no market it wont be easily updated i would think without other software.
jjcd51590 said:
Alright that's good but if there is no market it wont be easily updated i would think without other software.
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Well, as far as I understand (and this is TommyPickles' theory) Google was pissed off because Cyanogen included a pre-release version of the new Android Market from Donut.
If that's the case, there would be nothing to prevent him from including the current Cupcake Market (or so I would hope).
F*** it who need those crappy Apps anyways. Just replace them with some that actually work better!
Yea but...
cacahahacaca said:
Well, as far as I understand (and this is TommyPickles' theory) Google was pissed off because Cyanogen included a pre-release version of the new Android Market from Donut.
If that's the case, there would be nothing to prevent him from including the current Cupcake Market (or so I would hope).
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That could be the case, however what is stopping them from doing it again we need to break the chains here.
i dont know if you need it or not but i working on a music player as a project for my projects class in school, maybe this can help in some way?
Freedomcaller said:
i dont know if you need it or not but i working on a music player as a project for my projects class in school, maybe this can help in some way?
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Hey Every little bit helps im sure we can run it through some test and if we get an alternative store released we can put your project in there
Meebo IM is free and is much better then the google im app. It has Gtalk, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Facebook Chat, MySpace chat and more
http://slideme.org/ looks like the best replacement for Market.
My concern is with the sync code. You can build the providers from AOSP, but you can't actually sync without doing the registration process, which requires the closed-source SetupWizard and Checkin applications.
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Hey Every little bit helps im sure we can run it through some test and if we get an alternative store released we can put your project in there
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edit: **** my distypesia kicked in...
cool it probably wont be done for a bunch of months tho, as its not due till the end of the simester and the android API has me totaly confused. but it has to get done otherwise i fail the class :-O
lol
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cool it probably wont be dont for a bunch on months tho, as its not due till the end of the siemster and the android API has me totaly confused. but it has to get done otherwise i fail the class :-O
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Well keep us updated no telling how long this is going to take :/
Well any ideas on the Setup or Check in apps what are thier purpose cant we just ditch them and use other methods of syncing?
nephron said:
Meebo IM is free and is much better then the google im app. It has Gtalk, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Facebook Chat, MySpace chat and more
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eBuddy is supposed to be very good as well.
What would *really* suck is if they force him to remove the Calendar, Gmail, and the Browser...
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What would *really* suck is if they force him to remove the Calendar, Gmail, and the Browser...
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Gmail is easy enough to replace, and the other two you mentioned are both open source, so their safe.
testing567 said:
Gmail is easy enough to replace, and the other two you mentioned are both open source, so their safe.
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Alright that's good to hear but the main one now is going to be the set up... think we could implement the hero one? I am not sure if that's htc property or Google property any info on this?
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eBuddy is supposed to be very good as well.
What would *really* suck is if they force him to remove the Calendar, Gmail, and the Browser...
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the browser sucked compared to steel browser anyway
jjcd51590 said:
Alright that's good to hear but the main one now is going to be the set up... think we could implement the hero one? I am not sure if that's htc property or Google property any info on this?
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We should try to not rely on the Hero roms for anything because the entire thing is considered closed source. The only difference is HTC hasn't complained yet. I'm guessing it will hit the fan with HTC the second a hero rom is ported to a non HTC device.
I vote for replacing the browser with steel
and email app with k9-mail.
We need also to patch the installer to be able to install apps to system.
True True
testing567 said:
We should try to not rely on the Hero roms for anything because the entire thing is considered closed source. The only difference is HTC hasn't complained yet. I'm guessing it will hit the fan with HTC the second a hero rom is ported to a non HTC device.
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Yeah your right about that how would a non-Google experience android phone work then anyone know? and i was just throwing ideas around lol thanks for clearing that up
i went to the google site http://productideas.appspot.com/ and left the idea leave him the hell alone or hire him
Hello everyone.
I'm assuming you have root with recovery, so with ZIP update, you can install dozen of apps in seconds, instead installing one by one.
Choose if you want to install to /system or /data, but you can also download only the APKs (only option for non-rooted phones).
The website is not only a upload/download site, it has some features like pic preview, downloads counter, links to market/others, and other things. Also it has other and cool features for managing your favorite apps
Take a look at apkitchen.pt.vu.
And by the way, please share apps. There a lot of apps that are not in market, and are those kind of apps that makes the difference and the major sense of the apKitchen
You can also find an Android App HERE.
If you like it please hit the thanks button!
Peace.
UPDATE!
Main differences are:
- Edit app information / upload new versions.
- Private apps option.
- Favorite/manage apps option.
- Recover password.
- Contact form and blog place.
- Renewed design, sharing options.
- Others.
this is real cool, i see great potential for it, hope it stays supported
New version is completely online, feel free to visit
Your website is Overlimit?
i can download your app since the host is blocked due overlimit?
how about changing to another mirror?
Pmakaasrul said:
i can download your app since the host is blocked due overlimit?
how about changing to another mirror?
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It is hosted on a private server, not mine unfortunately.
Also unfortunately, in order to store all those files/apps, I need to pay for VPS (virtual private server), which means a couple of hundred euros by year.
http://apkitchen.pt.vu/
looks dead to me.
may be gone forever :crying:
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http://apkitchen.pt.vu/
looks dead to me.
may be gone forever :crying:
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^^I noticed that too
Unfortunately the xda user who provided me a private server in order to host the apps, is not around anymore, so he canceled my access.
The solution is not pay for a VPS. Unfortunately that means some dozens of dolares per month, and I'm afraid I cannot afford it...
Not been on the forums or even had time to flash any ROM's for a few weeks but tonight I've got a couple of hours free, so just been looking through ROM Manager and came across Cerberus, I thought it was a new ROM at first so I took a look. Only to find out it's an APP not a ROM (weird really).
I was just wondering if anyone had tried it or know anything about it and does it really deserve a place in ROM Manager when its not even a ROM, even if it the best thing since sliced bread I'd still expect it to be in extras anyway.
Sorry If this has been discussed but like I've said Ive had no time so am a little out of touch
Thanks
Never heard of it before but I found out about it just like you did. From what I can tell it's the same as the marketplace app - https://market.android.com/details?id=com.lsdroid.cerberus&hl=en
I will admit I haven't tried either version (ROM manager version or marketplace), but it seems to have decent reviews. I agree though, it seems weird in ROM manager under the normal ROM listing... I expected it to be under Extras too.
UPDATE***
Flashed it through CWM although it can be downloaded from the market as pointed out.
What an amazing piece of kit. you get a weeks free trial but I paid 2.60 or there about.
I can't explain how good it is, if you have ever been concerned about loosing misplacing or having your Nexus slolen, then this most definately for you.
If you buy the full version you can add up to 5 phones.
It enables you to track, wipe take a picture, request call or sms log display a message sound an alarm even record live for up to 5 mins at a time, ether by loging on to there ste online or by sending a text message to your phone.
By far the best security app I've ever seen.
Check it out, its free for a week and if you don't buy it there must be something wrong with you.
And honestly I'm not assosiated with the app or its developers, just know a great app when I see one
https://www.cerberusapp.com/
Hi, I'm Cerberus main developer.
First of all, if you have any questions on Cerberus feel free to ask!
Then, regarding the inclusion in ROM Manager, I'd like to explain how and why it happened.
Cerberus has additional features if you integrate it into the rom. It cannot be uninstalled (I mean, it can only be deleted by flashing a new rom or using adb/terminal emulator, but I don't think a lot of thieves know how to do that), and GPS is automatically enabled when you send a "Start tracking" command. So on the website there is a flashable zip for easy installation in /system/app.
A user, who also maintains the ROM Manager repository, told me if I wanted to publish it there too, so integration into the rom would be even easier. Of course I said "Sure, that'd be great"
Now I don't know if there's a specific category into ROM Manager that is fit for Cerberus or whatever, if someone more expert than me wants to write his opinion I'd like to read it.
P.S. If you installed version 1.9beta, there are some nice new features that you can't see yet in the "official" dashboard. More info here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jmPnjs07y7rs9tdsMEzwUTQtV2ncjsYcVsPUbBtZAXM/edit?hl=en_US
It is the best app i have ever downloaded.
EDIT: Wow I just read all the comments in ROM Manager and I want to punch so many people.
So to expand on what ajejee said above:
Previously, Cerberus could only be installed either as a regular app with the "Device Administrator" permissions like any other security app, and the associated flaws (like not being able to turn on GPS on 2.3.3+), or by downloading a separate APK off the website and running it on your phone, which would copy the APK to the system partition.
Long story short, putting Cerberus in ROM Manager is a way to make it easier for users to install Cerberus to /system, since most competent root users have ClockworkMod Recovery and at least know of ROM Manager. While yes, it is "odd" for an app to be in the ROM listing, it's not the only non-ROM in there. I also have radio images for the HTC EVO 4G listed as well.
In regards to placing it in "Extras": Yes, that's a nice idea, but with the way RM's manifests work, it's not really feasible. The "Extras" isn't a separate category, but just another manifest that was hosted on Koush's GitHub, and was only being used by Superuser. This means that any time Superuser had an update, or Cerberus would have an update, the developers would have to send a pull request to Koush, and someone would have to merge it in.
I say was, because Superuser and Cerberus both now have their own separate manifests (meaning no more Extras link), and show up as "ROMs" in the Download ROM menu. I've talked to Koush about making a separate "Download App" menu, but the problem with that is that the Market's ToS prevent having an app that just downloads other apps.
tl;dr, this is so Cerberus can be protected against factory resets, apps can kinda-sorta go in the Download ROM menu, and ROM Manager can't have a separate Download App menu.
Pretty cool app!!!!!!!!
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using xda premium
Awesome app and there are even way to get it for free !
Well, you translated the app into Bosnian/Croatian/Serbian so you earned a couple free licenses
There are not many languages left to localize Cerberus into: Korean, Finnish, Arabic, Farsi, Indonesian and Thai.
So if anyone wants to help with some of these translations please let us know!
rijads said:
Awesome app and there are even way to get it for free !
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Thanks "ajejee" for this nice application.
I can localize Cerberus into Arabic language if you want !
That would be great! Can you please contact me at [email protected] ?
Thanks a lot!
I rooted my LG G2 and I want to install Cerberus in the system, but im new to this, i didnt understand the instructions at their website. Can anybody help me with this?:good:
Thanks
This app is awesome,
my girlfriend's phone (nexus 5) has been stolen twice and i have found it twice! The first time i found it with the front camera photo feature when you fail your password and that person did herself a nice selfie. 10 minuts later y found her and got the phone back. The second time the thief turned it off when she just found it, this time i only could wait her to put her sim in the phone...and it happened, the phone send me her phone number and i found a lot of information (photos,adresses, student,career,year....) called her and again got it back.
But i don't understand one thing, i had bootloader locked and adb not enabled. Even with password for the phone the girl managed to install a different factory image (killing cerberus forever) and i don't know how she did it, i though the phone was completely locked. Anyway i was lucky because she put his card in to the phone before doing that but i'm still confused about that. I'll try to fix that security hole somehow.
Finally i want to thank the developer for make this app, with 3€ my girlfriend saved 700 and who nows in the future maybe more.
cant help you
Cerberus on rom
NexusCrazy said:
Not been on the forums or even had time to flash any ROM's for a few weeks but tonight I've got a couple of hours free, so just been looking through ROM Manager and came across Cerberus, I thought it was a new ROM at first so I took a look. Only to find out it's an APP not a ROM (weird really).
I was just wondering if anyone had tried it or know anything about it and does it really deserve a place in ROM Manager when its not even a ROM, even if it the best thing since sliced bread I'd still expect it to be in extras anyway.
Sorry If this has been discussed but like I've said Ive had no time so am a little out of touch
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Hello, I got this email from Cerbus asking the question would Cerberus survive a hard rest?
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Only if you integrate Cerberus into the ROM of the device.
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Chiara
Cerberus support
Hi! A few of my modding friends made a new app, and gave me permission to share this with the XDA community. I hope you enjoy it!
Their words:
Picat is a Kik mod based on Kik/Pikek version 8.10. Made by Spirit, Jess, Nem, Bran, Dorcus, Kilo, and mint. We started this project to give people something fun to use and also to get some good learning experience out of it. If you have used Pikek in the past then you'll already know what features it has, however it's more than just another boring retheme of Pikek unlike most mods it contains never before seen features and commands which you will love and find very useful. Some of which include
- !back (auto invites people back to the group)
- Auto forward (great for bypassing that annoying 24 hour pic ban)
- Anti timestamp (to auto ban annoying people)
- New games such as !guess and !hang
- OS/mod detection (let's you view what operating system another user is using and/or their modded kik)
- Real time lurk detection (much better than @whoslurking as it doesn't timeout)
- Empty profile pic ban (to auto ban users who join without a profile pic. Great for keeping out spammers as they usually don't have a profile pic)
- Version switcher/Enable @bots (let's you switch between version.8.10 or 10.7 to choose between joining hashtags or using kik bots)
- Invisible mode (doesn't let others detect you're using a modded Kik)
- Built in bypass no save and forward (having a toggle for it is dumb)
- !demote (jid)
Let us know if you have questions, concerns, or ideas for new features in #catikhelp group or #picet. We hope you enjoy this mod!
Screenshots:
https://imgur.com/a/qnoMU
Downloads:
Dark version - https://www.dropbox.com/s/g5gqx8jktlnv7qz/picatOBB_dark.apk?dl=1
Light version - https://www.dropbox.com/s/lzod9so0stsxdsj/picatOBB_light.apk?dl=1
App is crashing
I have tried both the light and dark versions of Picat and both crash as soon as I open them before logging in. I uninstalled all other Kik apps to try to fix it and it is still crashing. I had another version of Picat and out of nowhere it started to crash whenever I opened it and I have no idea how to fix it. I restarted my phone twice cleared app data, nothing works. Help?
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I have tried both the light and dark versions of Picat and both crash as soon as I open them before logging in. I uninstalled all other Kik apps to try to fix it and it is still crashing. I had another version of Picat and out of nowhere it started to crash whenever I opened it and I have no idea how to fix it. I restarted my phone twice cleared app data, nothing works. Help?
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I'm afraid I'm not aware of any issues since I'm not involved with the app, but if you still want my help, a good start would be to pull out a computer and look into "adb logcat." Running that when it crashes will provide us with valuable info about why the crash occurs.
Added for test it out later. Thanks for sharing it.
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Added for test it out later. Thanks for sharing it.
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Thanks, I don't know how to debug.
I found that it only crashes and refuses to run when there is something funky with my internet connection like things being blocked on restricted Wi-Fi.
Can't login. Returns to initial setup screen after solving the CAPTCHA.
Does this (or any other mod) remove that silly chat history limit btw? And how about an export feature?
That's basically all I'd want a mod for...
Can't download?
Hello, I apologize if this post is stupid, but I cant seem to download the app. I press the Dropbox link but the link page closes right after loading,and doesn't start a download,anyone able to assist?
That's pretty odd! Try changing the '1' at the end of the link to a '0' and see what happens
Clean ?
Join #Testing_Kik_Mods #moddedkiktestings#Testingmoddedkiks #modtestgroup for links
Is there a way to retrieve videos that have been sent to you but got lost due to relogin with picat?
I tried doing a search and couldn't find a relevant thread, but I have a few questions...
OK first, the issue that brings me here is the only web browser that I like (Boat) has long been dead and out of development, it's long not been on the play store but I've had the APK for a long time and just transfered it to every new phone I got so I could keep using it. I have tried finding a different browser, but I hate them all, none of them have any of the features I want. My last phone was running Android 9.0 and Boat was still working on it. Well, I got a new phone now (Pixel 4a 5g) that has Android 11 and boat still mostly works... except it crashes if I click the bar at the top to type in a URL and a few other bugs... but otherwise still works flawlessly.
1. So, I'm wondering first is it even OK for someone to look to hire a developer to basically update a dead app? Any website and contact information for the original developer no longer exists, but I don't know if it's OK for someone to take over a dead app like that, if it would be considered stealing or something.
2. Second, well if it's OK... I have the last APKs of the browser and I had used a guide to deconstruct the APK into a project thinking maybe I can figure it out and how to update it so that it still works but... yeah that's not happening. So I have the APK files and the already deconstructed into a project and was wondering where I can ask about hiring a developer just to basically update the app so that it still works (bug fixes only, not really making any changes to the look/feel/etc, just fix any bugs or code that's old and deprecated and doesn't work anymore)? And when I say hire, I mean like actually hire, with real money.
sardonicus87 said:
I tried doing a search and couldn't find a relevant thread, but I have a few questions...
OK first, the issue that brings me here is the only web browser that I like (Boat) has long been dead and out of development, it's long not been on the play store but I've had the APK for a long time and just transfered it to every new phone I got so I could keep using it. I have tried finding a different browser, but I hate them all, none of them have any of the features I want. My last phone was running Android 9.0 and Boat was still working on it. Well, I got a new phone now (Pixel 4a 5g) that has Android 11 and boat still mostly works... except it crashes if I click the bar at the top to type in a URL and a few other bugs... but otherwise still works flawlessly.
1. So, I'm wondering first is it even OK for someone to look to hire a developer to basically update a dead app? Any website and contact information for the original developer no longer exists, but I don't know if it's OK for someone to take over a dead app like that, if it would be considered stealing or something.
2. Second, well if it's OK... I have the last APKs of the browser and I had used a guide to deconstruct the APK into a project thinking maybe I can figure it out and how to update it so that it still works but... yeah that's not happening. So I have the APK files and the already deconstructed into a project and was wondering where I can ask about hiring a developer just to basically update the app so that it still works (bug fixes only, not really making any changes to the look/feel/etc, just fix any bugs or code that's old and deprecated and doesn't work anymore)? And when I say hire, I mean like actually hire, with real money.
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First topic is about licence agreement and legal stuff. It is owned by "Boatmob, Inc." / "Digital Life International Limited" / "Crunchbase Inc.". Although the app was for free, it does not seem to be a free licences. But I am not an expert in this area.
About the browser app itself, I have seen that you were already active here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/boat-browser.3821682/
You either need a permission of the owning company and then maintain the app yourself (or via a hired dev), or you have to switch to another and still actively supported browser app.