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new Droid Sans for dev phone and other dev apks

First, the new Droid Sans for the dev phone works great! If you haven't seen it, check the market!
That program, and some of the other apks, such as the one for flash seem to get a ton of really stupid comments in the market. Also, the market now seems to be too big, with not enough sub-categories to find things easily.
IMO, there should at least be a category for advanced users and developers only. (Maybe even one which you would have to sign in to visit, with a big disclaimer saying something like "These programs will not run on most G1s. They are programs for rooted or (don't know if Google will like the rooted part), developer's phones. Many of them are apk's for developers to make it easier for them to write better apps for you, rather than stand-alone-apps. If you are a developer, or an advanced user, please sign up to download the apps."
Is there a place to suggest improvements to the market to Google?
(Maybe I just am feeling nasty after looking at all those grade school comments in the market).

kathi17 said:
First, the new Droid Sans for the dev phone works great! If you haven't seen it, check the market!
That program, and some of the other apks, such as the one for flash seem to get a ton of really stupid comments in the market. Also, the market now seems to be too big, with not enough sub-categories to find things easily.
IMO, there should at least be a category for advanced users and developers only. (Maybe even one which you would have to sign in to visit, with a big disclaimer saying something like "These programs will not run on most G1s. They are programs for rooted or (don't know if Google will like the rooted part), developer's phones. Many of them are apk's for developers to make it easier for them to write better apps for you, rather than stand-alone-apps. If you are a developer, or an advanced user, please sign up to download the apps."
Is there a place to suggest improvements to the market to Google?
(Maybe I just am feeling nasty after looking at all those grade school comments in the market).
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tbh i think that if you had a moderator (obviously not just the one ) who
monitored the market and removed stupid comments and who could even issue 24 hour bans or something it would improve things tenfold.
and about the rooted section, google wouldn't like it but what can they do? no matter what they release people will find a way to get root access again google might as well just release cupcake with root access already enabled.

If Google released cupcake with root access, there would be an awful lot of happy G1 users!
I see you have RC30, do you have auto rotate with your pictures? Now that I've got the new Droid Sans, everything except pictures seems to auto rotate. (although I've only tried one photo so far, I need to check others).

which app is for flash?

would u send me code for how to use different font in android

installed this app- this rocks.

debro012 said:
which app is for flash?
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Action Script Reference. It doesn't do Flash, it's a help for Flash and Flex developers. (I added that in case there are any non developers reading this who think they are going to have Flash by downloading it).

[ROM] AOSP w/o Google apps (readd-able) FIRST HALFLEGAL ROM

Here I provide a half legal (I included the HTC drivers for the hardware...) stock AOSP (android-1.5_r3) ROM!
You can add Google Apps legally if you have bought a Google experienced phone by running this script on a linux-machine:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=564744
Features:
-No special features
-Just stock w/o Google apps
Download for G1:
http://www.4shared.com/file/135524283/e812c64f/dream.html
Instructions:
Unzip the file, then:
fastboot erase userdata
fastboot flash system system.img
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot reboot
To Do:
I'm a lazy guy.
Next release will be cyanogenmod w/o googleapps.

Well does the rom working without all googles stuffs ?
Can we add them easily ?
Thanks for the new build, hope this googles' issue will be fine

It does work, but it's nearly useless.
I work on a windows version of my script which adds google apps legally.
I also will create a script for recovery.
I'll work on this ROM when I'm done with these, as soon as the scripts are ready, this ROM will get some goodies from Cyan.

Nice work Maxisma!
Its a good start

awesome bro

keep it up it's a start!

maxisma said:
It does work, but it's nearly useless.
I work on a windows version of my script which adds google apps legally.
I also will create a script for recovery.
I'll work on this ROM when I'm done with these, as soon as the scripts are ready, this ROM will get some goodies from Cyan.
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Excellent.
With all this doom and gloom.
Surely this is the problem solved?
But what do you mean by google experience?
I know I got all the apps with my phone... T-Mobile G1...

Google Experience are all phones with Google Apps preinstalled.
Just some indian and russian HTC devices don't have it.

Out of interest would this boot fine without running the script?
I am presuming not, but i am just curious?
I would try it out, but at the moment I am not at home and only have 2g coverage on my phone so its a bit slow to download
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Could i (in theroy) install, boot and then use wget to download sam3 from slideme.org and then download a third party dialer / K9 etc... etc..
So use all third party apps

vixsandlee said:
Out of interest would this boot fine without running the script?
I am presuming not, but i am just curious?
I would try it out, but at the moment I am not at home and only have 2g coverage on my phone so its a bit slow to download
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It boot's fine w/o the script ;-)

Not to rain on your parade, but ....
Hi Maxisma,
Not to rain on the parade, but ...
Per Google, this ROM is no more "legal" than any other ...
The following is taken from http://source.android.com/documentation/building-for-dream
* The Dream device software contains some proprietary binaries. For contractual reasons, these cannot be redistributed separately from the shipping hardware, but the provided script may be used to extract these binaries from your development device so that they can be correctly included in your build. These libraries include the openGL|ES library, the Qualcomm camera library, the HTC Radio Interface Library, etc. You need adb to be in your path, and you need your device to be configured for adb access. If you don't have adb already, do a generic build first, which will put it in your path.
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Just my understanding of things.
~enom~

Interesting, i am going to have to have a look and a play later.
Cheers for the work (forgot to say that in my first post)

if you're interested on maybe trying to do this on your own:
http://www.johandekoning.nl/index.php/2009/06/07/building-android-15-build-environment/
Contrary to what you might think, a room w/o google apps is not entirely useless. Probably the major setbacks are the lack of market access, the lack of a YouTube player (we need to work on a port of Totem's Youtube implementation but for android), and a way to manage contacts (irrenhaus is looking at the posibility of setting up a Google Contacts sync), plus we'd probably need to write an utility to actually read/write contacts to and from SIM.
G-mail, you can acess from the browser (which, AFAIK, is still free and open source under the Apache Licence), Maps can be downloaded once we get Market access.
Other than that, a bone-stock android build will keep you connected to the internet, allow you to tether, allow you to run scripts, deliver your mms, give you camera and music player, have theme support, and ofcourse, make phone calls just like any other build will. You'll just have to go a bit off of your way to get apps, but again, that's the main drive here, either get acess to market of create a new one and invite app developers to submit their apps there too

enomther said:
Hi Maxisma,
Not to rain on the parade, but ...
Per Google, this ROM is no more "legal" than any other ...
The following is taken from http://source.android.com/documentation/building-for-dream
Just my understanding of things.
~enom~
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That's dead on too, and I forgot about it. The issue would not be with google anymore though, but with HTC and it's hardware partners. This is what cyanogen realized, now that the spotlight is on rom development, companies will have watchdogs for re-distribution of binary code. If you own an ADP device, you can legally download the binaries from the HTC website and MAKE YOUR OWN BUILD (so redistribution targeting dream is out, unless we can talk to HTC about it), either that, or, as I've said before, move onto an open hardware platform so we can write our own drivers.
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By the way, I still don't agree with the whole feeling of gloom floating around here. This is only a change to the way we're doing things right now, but it doesn't hinder development in any way. If you're the kind of dev that's here for the praise, then yeah, you wont like it that now people will have to actually know what they're doing, so your fanbase will be reduced. I for one welcome the change. This rom, for example, can still be distributed without the HTC binaries and maybe have instructions for the user to download them, install them in their OTA package, and the actually flash the rom. But then that requires that people actually know what they're doing, since we can't legally provide them the finished product.
Also, it doesn't hinder improvement of the platform. None, I repeat, NONE of cyanogen's or other dev's work ever even touched the proprietary parts of the build, as this is nearly impossible without the source (I know, baksmali, but really, I'm trying to make a point here!...) and most of what made his work awesome was the behind-the-userland work; kernel's bfs patches, scripting, cpu time management, modifications to available source, for example, the settings package.
We can still improve the platform, we can contribute, and maybe this time around the way Google wanted people to, by submitting code for their consideration to have it maybe implemented in android's next build.
I'll be glad to see all the "OMG, MY PHONE WONT START" threads diminish as people realize that this will no longer be the place where you get it all dumbed down and easy to use.

hey just by simple curiosity, how do you then log into the phone, if this rom is google less? I presume you still need a google account to set up your machine right????

kmassada said:
hey just by simple curiosity, how do you then log into the phone, if this rom is google less? I presume you still need a google account to set up your machine right????
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You don't need to login as there is no setupwizard.

jubeh said:
That's dead on too, and I forgot about it. The issue would not be with google anymore though, but with HTC and it's hardware partners. This is what cyanogen realized, now that the spotlight is on rom development, companies will have watchdogs for re-distribution of binary code. If you own an ADP device, you can legally download the binaries from the HTC website and MAKE YOUR OWN BUILD (so redistribution targeting dream is out, unless we can talk to HTC about it), either that, or, as I've said before, move onto an open hardware platform so we can write our own drivers.
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By the way, I still don't agree with the whole feeling of gloom floating around here. This is only a change to the way we're doing things right now, but it doesn't hinder development in any way. If you're the kind of dev that's here for the praise, then yeah, you wont like it that now people will have to actually know what they're doing, so your fanbase will be reduced. I for one welcome the change. This rom, for example, can still be distributed without the HTC binaries and maybe have instructions for the user to download them, install them in their OTA package, and the actually flash the rom. But then that requires that people actually know what they're doing, since we can't legally provide them the finished product.
Also, it doesn't hinder improvement of the platform. None, I repeat, NONE of cyanogen's or other dev's work ever even touched the proprietary parts of the build, as this is nearly impossible without the source (I know, baksmali, but really, I'm trying to make a point here!...) and most of what made his work awesome was the behind-the-userland work; kernel's bfs patches, scripting, cpu time management, modifications to available source, for example, the settings package.
We can still improve the platform, we can contribute, and maybe this time around the way Google wanted people to, by submitting code for their consideration to have it maybe implemented in android's next build.
I'll be glad to see all the "OMG, MY PHONE WONT START" threads diminish as people realize that this will no longer be the place where you get it all dumbed down and easy to use.
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I could probably write a Java application that would allow the user to:
1) hook their google phone up over USB and grab the existing google apps off of it
2) point to the location of their proprietary drivers on a manufacturers website for download
3) point to a central location of legal ROMS for download
4) click an ASSEMBLE button to put it all together. The resulting update file would be like they have always been, but no illegal redistribution has taken place.

One little problem ...
Ohsaka said:
I could probably write a Java application that would allow the user to:
1) hook their google phone up over USB and grab the existing google apps off of it
2) point to the location of their proprietary drivers on a manufacturers website for download
3) point to a central location of legal ROMS for download
4) click an ASSEMBLE button to put it all together. The resulting update file would be like they have always been, but no illegal redistribution has taken place.
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Hi Ohsaka,
One little problem with that is ... the manufacturers do not post the drivers (standalone) on their websites for download, they only redist with the hardware. Also, there are other library files as well, it's not only drivers.
~enom~

Simple fix.. just don't include it. People will have to "magically" find the drivers on their own.

If it boots, why is it nearly useless?

Quick install maybe?

I know its still kinda soon and all but do you think that there will be something along the lines of this quick install for the pre for the evo soon?? I used to have it for my pre and I liked it a lot. I just think its an easier way to out themes and tweaks on your phone. Lets get some devs on this

AS far as I know, It does not exist, but it would be awesome.
I mean, I understand the ROM approach, and all is good, but is a little bit too much.... For instance, right now I have OMJ's rom that gives me anything I need, but, let's say, I want to add something.. like to edit the hosts file to avoid ads, I only have 2 options, either load another rom (and again wipe everything, restore from a backup, and manually tweak the data that was not backed up, like some edits inside contacts, quick dial, etc), or manually tweak the hosts file, but there is no software to help automate any tweaks like Quick Install.... (or patches or anything like that)

dchamero said:
AS far as I know, It does not exist, but it would be awesome.
I mean, I understand the ROM approach, and all is good, but is a little bit too much.... For instance, right now I have OMJ's rom that gives me anything I need, but, let's say, I want to add something.. like to edit the hosts file to avoid ads, I only have 2 options, either load another rom (and again wipe everything, restore from a backup, and manually tweak the data that was not backed up, like some edits inside contacts, quick dial, etc), or manually tweak the hosts file, but there is no software to help automate any tweaks like Quick Install.... (or patches or anything like that)
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This is why we should make this a sticky and get people to make this happen. It would be so convenient and easy for the people that dont know what to do when it comes to the ROMs.

agreeeed! quickinstall and preware...aww man bring back the memories....

Can someone explain to me what this quick install thing is? Maybe I or one of my co devs can help make it happen

im quoting from the pre wiki:
Preware is a package management application for the Palm Pre and the Palm Pixi. Preware allows the user to install any package from any of the open standard package repositories on preware.org (or any other location that hosts an open standard package repository). Preware relies on a custom written service developed from community research which allows the mojo app to talk to the built-in ipkg tool.
This application was the result of extensive community-based design in IPKG Service and Preware Design.
For application management, Preware can access more applications, and has more features, than any other on-device package installer.
And since it is open source, and has a completely open development process supported by a team of world-class WebOS Internals developers, it will continue to get better much faster than any other package management application.
Preware is the open application installer that has been written specifically to support a homebrew ecosystem where any developer can upload any application to any submission site, and that application can then be installed by any user. Developers no longer need to upload their applications to multiple submission sites, and users are no longer excluded from accessing applications from any open standard package repository.
quickinstall is essentially the same thing but all actions done via your computer

the homebrew community for the pre was INCREDIBLE, im hoping with the growing number of users here that hopefully it will be just a good here!

Well first, the dev community here is much better. Trust me. It takes a little to get off our feet because WebOS and Android are completely different and HTC tries to block us at every move. The Evo community is moving faster than any other XDA Android community has. Don't doubt our devs
I knew what Preware was. I didn't realize quick install was the same thing. Ok so basically you want a repository consisting of what? Roms?

roms, patches,tweaks, themes, hell even some apps on the low low haha
haha i still have my pre and follow the updates on preware using wifi.
i think if devs use rom manager that would be great...and i am sure all devs will get on that soon enough
haha yea i have noticed work on the EVO moved alot faster than any of the other android phones...
thanks for your responses chuck, ill be getting more involved here and always let me know if there is anything i can do to help.

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Well first, the dev community here is much better. Trust me. It takes a little to get off our feet because WebOS and Android are completely different and HTC tries to block us at every move. The Evo community is moving faster than any other XDA Android community has. Don't doubt our devs
I knew what Preware was. I didn't realize quick install was the same thing. Ok so basically you want a repository consisting of what? Roms?
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why is that? i only ask because with the pre, palm was a really big supporter of the dev community...it just seems counter productive for htc to try and block users efforts to make the phones even more desirable and customizable...i know thats what drew so many people to the pre...also one of the reasons i loved it

Are you referring to something like metamorph maybe used it on my hero a lot
Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk

ahh yea i guess in a way rom manager and meta pretty much do what preware does
i guess maybe we were trying to see if it could all be consolidated to one place [make it evo specific] and have a few more features and options??
for example: there is not flash for the camcorder...perhaps a patch to change that? or like when the light senor detects a face the phone is in earpiece, when you move your face away it automatically goes to speakerphone [i use these two examples because they are somewhat recent developments on the pre] but now that I have an idea of what kinda tweaks are possible i think we could probably move really quickly
havent played with metamorph yet but i will def check it out tonight]
EDIT #1: upon future researching metamorph it seems even more like preware than i thought, BUT the OP was talking about quickinstall...i am cool with either haha thanks for the replies
EDIT #2: i just tried to install and i guess its not ready for us yet...ill be patiently waiting i guess hah

[GUIDE]Installing market on Entourage eDGe

DISCLAIMER: I am in no way responsible if any of this information destroys or has any negative effects whatsoever.
UNFORTUNATELY, I HAVE FOUND THAT THIS DOES NOT IN FACT ENABLE MARKET USE, HOWEVER, IT DOES STILL WORK WITH GMAIL, CALENDER, ETC. AND I'M LEAVING IT UP IN CASE ANYONE WANTS TO GIVE IT A SHOT.
That said, this has worked for a few people so far without any problems, if you run into any I'll do what I can to help.
HUGE THANKS TO: brianb5010(this guide is almost word for word the same as his), kennyminot(helped in much the same way as brianb5010), and Keslynn. Without them this project would be nowhere right now.
Now, on to the guide:
Step one: Download the backup of the gapps from my site: link(please note, the link has been updated to go through adfly, 5 seconds of your time will help my continued development on this device, if you really don't want to use it, PM me and I can send you a direct link. If adfly leads you to a survey, back out and don't do anything there, these kinds of things are against the adfly TOS and they are working to remove them, thanks!)
Step two: root your edge, the easiest way is to download the z4root app from the Amazon marketplace, NOTE: this only works if using 2.2/ermine, if you are running an older version you will have to figure out how to root on your own(there are a few methods, and various guides for this out there).
Step three: Download Titanium Backup(the free version should work fine for this, but I recommend buying anyway, its a great app!) from the developers site onto your edge and install: link.
Step four: Extract the archive somewhere on your computer or eDGe, then copy all of the files found in the release folder(extracted from the archive) to your /sdcard/TitaniumBackup folder
Step five: Open Titanium Backup and wait for it to gain root, etc.(make sure to give it root privileges), then tap on backup/restore, scroll to the bottom of this list and you should see several (9) apps crossed out, tap on each and tap restore app + data. THIS IS IMPORTANT, you MUST restore the DATA!
Step six: You should be DONE!!! reboot and try out market, you'll need to sign in with your google account.
If you get an error go to step seven:
Step seven: At this point you may be able to access the market, but you might also need to do the "market fix", to do this you will need to edit the /system/build.prop file. Instructions can be found here, but if you want to do it the free way(a little harder), read on:
a. Download AndRootFile and use it to remount the /system folder as read/write, then open up a terminal
b. type "su"(without quotes) then type "vi /system/build.prop"(again without quotes)
c. use ijkl or the trackpad to navigate down to the line starting with: "ro.build.fingerprint"
d. change(use the i button on the keyboard to start editing in vi) that line to read: "ro.build.fingerprint=google/passion/passion/mahimahi:2.2/FRF91/43546:user/release-keys"​
FAQ:
Q: I'm not seeing many apps in the market.
A: see this: youtube video
Q: I'm getting a download error on every app I try to download, and a google talk connection error.
A: Please PM me and/or post here and I can try and figure it out, I had this error as well, and it may just be due to a faulty gmail account, but there may be another problem, either way I can likely fix it.
Question not answered? Post below or PM me! Also let me know of any spelling errors or things I missed, I know there must be some!

post 2 reserved just in case

Does this get gtalk working? Sounds like it based on your "had this problem" but just wanted to check.

pocketedgejr said:
Does this get gtalk working? Sounds like it based on your "had this problem" but just wanted to check.
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Yes, the program works.
The problem I ran into had something to do with my normal gmail account, it wouldn't allow me to download anything from market or access google talk(gmail and youtube worked fine). So I reinstalled them and used the fake/throwaway gmail account I made just for these backups, unfortunately, I have not yet done enough testing to know whether or not the programs will work with any other google account. If this is the case I will release the username and password of the fake account so that others may use it to access the market(you can then add another account to sync with gmail, etc.) Unfortunately, the talk app does not yet let you switch which account you use it with, so you would have to seek out another IM app.
Of course until someone else tests this I don't know anything for certain.
EDIT: if anyone has been successful in this please let me know. One user is having problems with it on another board and I want to know if it is an isolated incident.
COPYPASTA FROM OTHER THREADS:
yes, I know what the problem is(I really should have tested more, I just got a little giddy and wanted to release lol), I'll hopefully have a new set of back-ups out tonight or early tomorrow(EST), until then you can still have fun with gmail, etc. and if you want you can try to get it working with market using the current set of backups.
If anyone REALLY wants to get on market before I release the newer backups PM me and I'll give you the username and password of the account that will work with the market, you will have to restore all the apps again(maybe not all but it can't hurt...) and then sign in with this user FIRST, then whatever other users second. Also, this will just fix market, talk will only work with this throwaway account, and you could add people but know that everyone using it will see them. Also know that this account will be public and should anyone start screwing with it I will delete it!
I'd rather no one make any purchases with this account anyway, as that could reveal your credit card and other details, but for free apps it should be fine.

AAAARRRGGHGHHHH!
lol. Seriously, I can't thank you enough for this, but I about died when I saw "LINK REMOVED, WAS A BAD SET OF BACKUPS, WILL BE UPDATED IN THE NEXT 24 HRS. WITH AN UPDATED VERSION."
I'll keep an eye on the page, and I'm REALLY looking forward to trying this out as soon as the backups return.

VeeDubb65 said:
AAAARRRGGHGHHHH!
lol. Seriously, I can't thank you enough for this, but I about died when I saw "LINK REMOVED, WAS A BAD SET OF BACKUPS, WILL BE UPDATED IN THE NEXT 24 HRS. WITH AN UPDATED VERSION."
I'll keep an eye on the page, and I'm REALLY looking forward to trying this out as soon as the backups return.
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If you want you can still download the backups from here: link, note that it will only work with gmail, calender, etc. and not talk or market, unless you PM me in which case I can give you the account that will activate market but only use it for free stuff because it will be a public account(talk will be similar in that everyone will see anyone you add). If your still interested PM me.

emusan said:
If you want you can still download the backups from here: link, note that it will only work with gmail, calender, etc. and not talk or market, unless you PM me in which case I can give you the account that will activate market but only use it for free stuff because it will be a public account(talk will be similar in that everyone will see anyone you add). If your still interested PM me.
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Thank you, but I think I'll wait. No sense in risk unnecessary work later. Talk and Market are the only things that I couldn't get working without the backups, so it's probably best to wait for backups that will work nicely with them.
I'll just keep an eye on the site, and thank you VERY much.

VeeDubb65 said:
Thank you, but I think I'll wait. No sense in risk unnecessary work later. Talk and Market are the only things that I couldn't get working without the backups, so it's probably best to wait for backups that will work nicely with them.
I'll just keep an eye on the site, and thank you VERY much.
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Yeah, unfortunately it looks like it might be tomorrow when they come out, the way I have to do this requires internet access, and my backing up of the official forums is taking up a lot of my bandwidth, not to mention I'm getting quite tired myself.

Sorry everyone, but I've got to be heading off to bed now, I'll release the newer backups ASAP tomorrow, until then I hope you all enjoy gmail, etc.
Again, sorry for the inconvenience, hopefully I can have this all sorted by tomorrow.
Oh and really sorry if you missed the PM time, I wish I could have kept it open longer, but I really do need some sleep right now

Thanks a lot emusan - been toying with the backups from earlier today and kept getting the market download/talk error as well (tried a new account, reset data, etc.) - looking forward to the new backups!

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... the threats towards my property and insults against my character.
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illegitimi non carborundum

I'm sorry to have to say this, but it seems as though the newer backups are not going to work(in fact they seem to work less well). I hate to say it but I can't really promise that I can get market working anytime in the near future(or possibly even at all). I'll put back up the older backups so that you can at least use gmail, calender, etc. but unfortunately talk and market will not work for the foreseeable future.
I'm still going to keep trying(though I really can't spend as much time as I have been on this, sadly), but at this point anything I try short of writing a custom ROM will just be a shot in the dark. I'm currently in talks with a few developers who have managed to get market working on other devices, though it seems to require a custom ROM. I might try making one in the near future, but I've never really made an android one before, and given some of the quirks of the eDGe I'm not even sure its possible(at least not without losing reader capabilities ).
If anyone else wants to try and get market working themselves I'll try and help in any way I can.
Thanks to every member of the community for their support over the last few days, again I'm sorry to disappoint.
On the bright side, the newer official forum backup seems to be grabbing a lot more pages than last time(unfortunately this time it is MUCH larger, I'll make it viewable online without needing to download, but this means I'll have to wait for an upgrade of the storage on my server), and should hopefully be done within the next 24 hours.
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illegitimi non carborundum
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lol had to look that up, thanks.

Well, that's a disappointment to hear, but I can't say I'm shocked. The phone my fiance really wants got released as an ATT exclusive and we don't do business with ATT, so we may end up with an android phone in the house before too long anyway.
Of course, if you have a eureka moment, I'd love to know.
In any case, I appreciate the effort.

Were these apps acquired from a phone? When I tried them from my friend's android, gtalk just wants to use 3g

mime64 said:
Were these apps acquired from a phone? When I tried them from my friend's android, gtalk just wants to use 3g
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yes, though others have done similar with no problems like that... The main problem arises from the need to use the same google account with the backups and restored applications...

Thank you emusan! I just installed the gapps with your instructions and everything works, except for marketplace.
All I really wanted was to get calendar and my contacts sync'ed. This in itself makes the PE worth alot more to me than $125 I paid for the PE.
I tried the marketplace and I got "No android phones associated with this account. Please sign in with a different account."
Will the trick with the build.prop fix this or are we stuck?
Anyways, will the sync'ing of the calendar appear in the PE calendar? I was looking for google calendar app, but I don't see one.
Anyways, thank you emusan and everyone else that contributed to make the PE worth more than I could have imagined.
Gary

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Thank you emusan! I just installed the gapps with your instructions and everything works, except for marketplace.
All I really wanted was to get calendar and my contacts sync'ed. This in itself makes the PE worth alot more to me than $125 I paid for the PE.
I tried the marketplace and I got "No android phones associated with this account. Please sign in with a different account."
Will the trick with the build.prop fix this or are we stuck?
Anyways, will the sync'ing of the calendar appear in the PE calendar? I was looking for google calendar app, but I don't see one.
Anyways, thank you emusan and everyone else that contributed to make the PE worth more than I could have imagined.
Gary
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Unfortunately, it would seem as though we are stuck in terms of market and talk access for the time being. The PE calender app is just a modified version of the normal google one I think, I haven't tested it to see how well it works with this method of installing the google apps, but we will see...

I love the new market app on my dx

Thanks
Wow, this is great ill really like to make to make it work at least to download free apps

I was able to get Market and Gmail to work with a different method:
1) Copy Google Services Framework (2.2.1) and Gmail (2.3.5) from my phone (HTC Aria running FR008). Just the .apks, not the data! I used Astro or ES File explorer to back them up.
2) Install Framework, then Gmail.
3) Install new Market (version 3.0.27) from a friend.
4) Use Titanium Backup (paid version) to convert the Market app to a system app.
5) Open up Gmail, login with my account. Then everything works!
I had to edit my build.prop(as described in emusan's OP), THEN use the hack described by the video. Now I can see all my purchased apps as well as the rest of the ones I want.
Thanks for this!

Questions about hiring a developer?

I tried doing a search and couldn't find a relevant thread, but I have a few questions...
OK first, the issue that brings me here is the only web browser that I like (Boat) has long been dead and out of development, it's long not been on the play store but I've had the APK for a long time and just transfered it to every new phone I got so I could keep using it. I have tried finding a different browser, but I hate them all, none of them have any of the features I want. My last phone was running Android 9.0 and Boat was still working on it. Well, I got a new phone now (Pixel 4a 5g) that has Android 11 and boat still mostly works... except it crashes if I click the bar at the top to type in a URL and a few other bugs... but otherwise still works flawlessly.
1. So, I'm wondering first is it even OK for someone to look to hire a developer to basically update a dead app? Any website and contact information for the original developer no longer exists, but I don't know if it's OK for someone to take over a dead app like that, if it would be considered stealing or something.
2. Second, well if it's OK... I have the last APKs of the browser and I had used a guide to deconstruct the APK into a project thinking maybe I can figure it out and how to update it so that it still works but... yeah that's not happening. So I have the APK files and the already deconstructed into a project and was wondering where I can ask about hiring a developer just to basically update the app so that it still works (bug fixes only, not really making any changes to the look/feel/etc, just fix any bugs or code that's old and deprecated and doesn't work anymore)? And when I say hire, I mean like actually hire, with real money.

sardonicus87 said:
I tried doing a search and couldn't find a relevant thread, but I have a few questions...
OK first, the issue that brings me here is the only web browser that I like (Boat) has long been dead and out of development, it's long not been on the play store but I've had the APK for a long time and just transfered it to every new phone I got so I could keep using it. I have tried finding a different browser, but I hate them all, none of them have any of the features I want. My last phone was running Android 9.0 and Boat was still working on it. Well, I got a new phone now (Pixel 4a 5g) that has Android 11 and boat still mostly works... except it crashes if I click the bar at the top to type in a URL and a few other bugs... but otherwise still works flawlessly.
1. So, I'm wondering first is it even OK for someone to look to hire a developer to basically update a dead app? Any website and contact information for the original developer no longer exists, but I don't know if it's OK for someone to take over a dead app like that, if it would be considered stealing or something.
2. Second, well if it's OK... I have the last APKs of the browser and I had used a guide to deconstruct the APK into a project thinking maybe I can figure it out and how to update it so that it still works but... yeah that's not happening. So I have the APK files and the already deconstructed into a project and was wondering where I can ask about hiring a developer just to basically update the app so that it still works (bug fixes only, not really making any changes to the look/feel/etc, just fix any bugs or code that's old and deprecated and doesn't work anymore)? And when I say hire, I mean like actually hire, with real money.
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First topic is about licence agreement and legal stuff. It is owned by "Boatmob, Inc." / "Digital Life International Limited" / "Crunchbase Inc.". Although the app was for free, it does not seem to be a free licences. But I am not an expert in this area.
About the browser app itself, I have seen that you were already active here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/boat-browser.3821682/
You either need a permission of the owning company and then maintain the app yourself (or via a hired dev), or you have to switch to another and still actively supported browser app.