I recently installed truecaller. I was satisfied with it but then a question raised in my mind: from where does the app collect the caller IDs. I installed the app on one of my friend's mobile & tried to search the numbers of my relatives which are present on my phonebook. I was surprised to see that he is getting my relative's nick names (As I saved their numbers on my phonebook) as search result. After searching on google I am preety sure that this app uploads the users caller ID as well as his phonebook to its server. Am I right?
sources: http://articles.economictimes.india...2337276_1_popular-app-phone-numbers-user-base
http://www.gshrey.in/blog/?p=510
@arpanbag1996 sure it does. But it doesnt shows this to unknown people so no need to worry about.
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@arpanbag1996 sure it does. But it doesnt shows this to unknown people so no need to worry about.
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Unknown people means? It shows it to all the people searching for the number.
It will show the details to the one who enters the numbers. Thats what tc is for.
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It will show the details to the one who enters the numbers. Thats what tc is for.
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It means that if anyone searches with the numbers of my relatives their names will be shown. Isn't it a great privacy concern?
arpanbag1996 said:
It means that if anyone searches with the numbers of my relatives their names will be shown. Isn't it a great privacy concern?
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Just think, who will search with the number? The one who already has the number will only search it to see who it belongs to yeah:? This is what truecaller works for, when someone calls you and you don't know their name, truecaller will show it to you.
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Just think, who will search with the number? The one who already has the number will only search it to see who it belongs to yeah:? This is what truecaller works for, when someone calls you and you don't know their name, truecaller will show it to you.
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But sometimes, it is better to be anonymous.
arpanbag1996 said:
But sometimes, it is better to be anonymous.
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You are not actually getting the concept of TC, bro this app is meant for this purpose.
Call receiving party has all rights to know who is calling them. or can search the number later to know who was it.
arpanbag1996 said:
I recently installed truecaller. I was satisfied with it but then a question raised in my mind: from where does the app collect the caller IDs. I installed the app on one of my friend's mobile & tried to search the numbers of my relatives which are present on my phonebook. I was surprised to see that he is getting my relative's nick names (As I saved their numbers on my phonebook) as search result. After searching on google I am preety sure that this app uploads the users caller ID as well as his phonebook to its server. Am I right?
sources: http://articles.economictimes.india...2337276_1_popular-app-phone-numbers-user-base
http://www.gshrey.in/blog/?p=510
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If you are calling someone or someone is calling you them its just a matter of picking the call. Then both of you will know each other's name. So true caller is just giving you that information few seconds earlier. And if its that big of privacy concern then uninstall it. Check truecaller settings. You can disable phone book upload from there. And its not that big of privacy issue. If you want to know other's details then be ready to give up yours. It works both ways. You can't just have everyone's info and not give yours.
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You are not actually getting the concept of TC, bro this app is meant for this purpose.
Call receiving party has all rights to know who is calling them. or can search the number later to know who was it.
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Then tell me why service providers don't tell us who called me? Even if I give them the number they says "Sir, I can't tell you the caller's name due to security reasons"
Kapiljhajhria said:
If you are calling someone or someone is calling you them its just a matter of picking the call. Then both of you will know each other's name. So true caller is just giving you that information few seconds earlier. And if its that big of privacy concern then uninstall it. Check truecaller settings. You can disable phone book upload from there. And its not that big of privacy issue. If you want to know other's details then be ready to give up yours. It works both ways. You can't just have everyone's info and not give yours.
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I'm ready to give my details. But I don't want to give details of my phonebook contacts.
arpanbag1996 said:
I'm ready to give my details. But I don't want to give details of my phonebook contacts.
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root your phone
install xposed and xprivacy
don't give permission of contacts to true caller
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ggs2 said:
root your phone
install xposed and xprivacy
don't give permission of contacts to true caller
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That seems a good solution. I'm using CM11 & I have built in privacy guard.
arpanbag1996 said:
Then tell me why service providers don't tell us who called me? Even if I give them the number they says "Sir, I can't tell you the caller's name due to security reasons"
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That number must not be in their data base.
ggs2 said:
root your phone
install xposed and xprivacy
don't give permission of contacts to true caller
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built-in privacy guard is good in general. However, it just cuts off so some app crashes plus it is not as fine grained as xprivacy. But if it does your purpose, its good enoguh
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That number must not be in their data base.
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No. They have those numbers in their database. they just don't want to tell us.
arpanbag1996 said:
I'm ready to give my details. But I don't want to give details of my phonebook contacts.
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use privacy app to block contacts access or uninstall the app. but thats how this app works.
let me again explain you why its not such a big deal.
suppose you have my number in your phonebook. truecaller picks up my details from your phonebook. now it useless to htem at thye moment.
but when i will call someone who has truecaller (i am calling him/her that means chances are they already know my name and if they don't then they will know after they answer the call and i introduce myself. ) they will be able to see my name before they answer the call.
but if they stop using your, mine and everyone's phonebook then it will be useless app. it will have no purpose or use.
Kapiljhajhria said:
use privacy app to block contacts access or uninstall the app. but thats how this app works.
let me again explain you why its not such a big deal.
suppose you have my number in your phonebook. truecaller picks up my details from your phonebook. now it useless to htem at thye moment.
but when i will call someone who has truecaller (i am calling him/her that means chances are they already know my name and if they don't then they will know after they answer the call and i introduce myself. ) they will be able to see my name before they answer the call.
but if they stop using your, mine and everyone's phonebook then it will be useless app. it will have no purpose or use.
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I understand bro. But sometimes, it is necessary to keep my number secret...
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Just think, who will search with the number? The one who already has the number will only search it to see who it belongs to yeah:? This is what truecaller works for, when someone calls you and you don't know their name, truecaller will show it to you.
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Except if this database is leaked
dserodio said:
Except if this database is leaked
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Related
is there anything similar to an xbox live app for the android system?
http://1337pwn.gameriot.com/blogs/1...Live-Friends-for-Android-v11-is-now-available
That what you are after?
deprecate said:
http://1337pwn.gameriot.com/blogs/1...Live-Friends-for-Android-v11-is-now-available
That what you are after?
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yeah thanks! exactly what i was looking for.
with that app you have to add your friends manually. It can't read your XBL account and pull your friends from the list.
search for gsDroid in the Market. i use that. Sign in with your windows ID so no need to add all your friends
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search for gsDroid in the Market. i use that. Sign in with your windows ID so no need to add all your friends
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can you send messages through that one?
deprecate said:
http://1337pwn.gameriot.com/blogs/1...Live-Friends-for-Android-v11-is-now-available
That what you are after?
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This is a great app, but does not work if your friends have privacy settings enabled.
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can you send messages through that one?
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No, you can't send messages through it. It does still work if your friends have privacy settings enabled. gsDroid is by far the best Xbox live app imo.
don't get gsDroid
I have to say gsDroid may work really well and all but I wouldn't get it! You have to give them your Microsoft sign in information which violates x box rules for a good reason. That person would have access to your account and possible credit card info. No matter how much you may like the app we really don't know the developer and this could be an opportunity for that person to get your info and scam people.
What are the Caller ID Apps?
I am compiling a list of the best apps of each category, so leave your opinion and a quick reason to help out the community.
If the app costs $, be sure to say so!
I'll start off--pay app: Super Caller ID
can input phone number to get the name and address of that phone number (kinda scary actually!)
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What are the Caller ID Apps?
I am compiling a list of the best apps of each category, so leave your opinion and a quick reason to help out the community.
If the app costs $, be sure to say so!
I'll start off--pay app: Super Caller ID
can input phone number to get the name and address of that phone number (kinda scary actually!)
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You already broke your own rule about noting the price. Super Caller ID looks to be $3.90
I've been using City Caller ID. I think they were C&D'd out of business, but here's the .apk. If I'm not allowed to post it, feel free to delete and sorry.
It does work great on my Droid X though.
If there's something similar (change position of indicator, change font, etc) and it's free and still gets updated, I'd certainly consider changing.
EDIT: I guess nothing wrong with posting that .apk in this thread since it's still here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=638318
Also, referencing that thread just so you don't worry about getting the .apk from an unknown source, now you have 2 unknown sources
the rule is just to label the pay apps and nonpay apps, so if the vote is for a payapp and readers go look for it, they wont be disappointed not knowing it was not free
i read about the city caller id, they are being sued. i take it they are no longer being updated?
drcrappants said:
i read about the city caller id, they are being sued. i take it they are no longer being updated?
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No, no updates, but works just fine on my Droid X, 2.2, rooted.
FREE INCOMING AND OUTGOING FOR YOUR TF-101
hello everyone. just posting this little tut to help you get your tf setup to have phone funtionality. just one more way i use my tf. works great as a secondary phone when you are on tab and phone is elsewhere if you dont care to that is fine but please dont bother posting unless you are interested or care to help improve this process. THANKS!
Materials:
GoogleVoice setup and #
csipsimple or sipdroid
android device with data connection/wifis
ipkall number for free calling
Instructions:
Step 1:
Download SIPDroid from the Market Place
Step 2:
Obtain a google voice account
Step 3:
Launch SIPDroid and instruct it to create a PBXes.com account for you with your google voice account information
(attn:sipdroid cannot auto config pbx atm due to shortages so you will have to config your pbx yourself until the issue is resolved )
Step 4:
Go to IPKall
Step 5:
Go to the settings of SIPDroid and write down the first account information (should be [email protected])
Step 6:
On IPKall, put in the XXXX-200 for the sip # and pbxes.com for the sip proxy
Step 7:
Register your IPKall number with Google Voice (if gives an error ask it to Verify the information. It will then dial your SIPDroid software and ask for a 2 digit number. It might take a couple of times before it recognizes it.)
Step 8:
You are now ready to make calls and receive calls.
I will be posting some vids as soon as i have some time...
REFERENCE MATERIALS
if you are having issues or need more help, pm me or check some of my most useful Reference Materials on this topic below:
Reference 0
(my first thread on this topic with vids for cdma galaxy tab many resources)
Reference 1
(gurnted blog about sipdroid/sipgate/ipkall/sipsourcery setups)
Reference 2
(big part of setup procedure)
Reference 3
(public stun servers list)
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Hey Skype is $2 a month for unlimited nationwide calling. But thanks for all the instructions though. I'm interested in sip, how's the quality compared to Skype?
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Or buy the groove IP app...
Tenny said:
Or buy the groove IP app...
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True, and it works well, but it isnt free. Thanks for the walkthrough magnus.
I just bought GrooveIP and it work perfectly .... thanks to whom suggesting it
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minhgi said:
I just bought GrooveIP and it work perfectly .... thanks to whom suggesting it
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the delay is close to 2 secs.
I can't seem to get the IPKall number verified through google voice. I keep pressing the 2 digit code google tells you to use but she keeps saying "sorry, I didn't get that" then eventually saying "sorry that you're having trouble, please call back later"
Am I doing something wrong?
Shame it's only US
Should edit title to say [US-Only]
Even if you manage to activate outside of US using a US #, anyone calling that number will be charged international fees (since its a number in the US) and you can't forward Google Voice calls to your own phone outside of US.
try this...
david279 said:
Hey Skype is $2 a month for unlimited nationwide calling. But thanks for all the instructions though. I'm interested in sip, how's the quality compared to Skype?
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great. however you must setup your delay settings and use a diff stun server if delay or feedback is present. refer to my references under stun servers if this is the case for you. i notice after extensive testing that when im testing while both devices are in the same room, you will have feedback sometimes; however when i call my friends,fam,fiance, they dont hear it.
Tenny said:
Or buy the groove IP app...
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hmmm...
dcmtnbkr said:
True, and it works well, but it isnt free. Thanks for the walkthrough magnus.
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np ^_^
deymayor said:
the delay is close to 2 secs.
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i have made adjustments. delay for me is minimal. otherwise i would not use this as a secondary phone. it would be useless.
minhgi said:
I just bought GrooveIP and it work perfectly .... thanks to whom suggesting it
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installing....
chodemickey said:
I can't seem to get the IPKall number verified through google voice. I keep pressing the 2 digit code google tells you to use but she keeps saying "sorry, I didn't get that" then eventually saying "sorry that you're having trouble, please call back later"
Am I doing something wrong?
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this is a known issue. refer to 2nd page of my 1st reference material.
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Shame it's only US
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frosty5689 said:
Should edit title to say [US-Only]
Even if you manage to activate outside of US using a US #, anyone calling that number will be charged international fees (since its a number in the US) and you can't forward Google Voice calls to your own phone outside of US.
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where else would i be? lol. sorry about that. ive lived in N.america my whole life. will add to op. thanks for suggestion.sorry it wont work for you.
I keep getting this error when trying to register it with GV
+xxxxxxxxx : This number is already being used on two other Google Voice accounts. Forwarding numbers cannot be shared across more than two accounts.
Any way around it?
droidkevlar said:
I keep getting this error when trying to register it with GV
+xxxxxxxxx : This number is already being used on two other Google Voice accounts. Forwarding numbers cannot be shared across more than two accounts.
Any way around it?
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Not to hijack this thread but, where does it say you can forward to the same phone # from 2 Google voice accounts?
I have 2 gv #s and I have wanted to forward them to my one cell # but it tells me I can only have one gv forward to one #.
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hmmm...
droidkevlar said:
I keep getting this error when trying to register it with GV
+xxxxxxxxx : This number is already being used on two other Google Voice accounts. Forwarding numbers cannot be shared across more than two accounts.
Any way around it?
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Not to hijack this thread but, where does it say you can forward to the same phone # from 2 Google voice accounts?
I have 2 gv #s and I have wanted to forward them to my one cell # but it tells me I can only have one gv forward to one #.
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the way i use my gv account in this is to forward my sprint calls to my two tabs should i miss my primary. they can also be rang directly via my gv #.
MagnusRagnarok said:
the way i use my gv account in this is to forward my sprint calls to my two tabs should i miss my primary. they can also be rang directly via my gv #.
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Im pretty tech savy but this got me beat, lol. I guess Ill wait until you post a video like you said or I have more time to just focus 100% on it. Or am I just really that dumb?? lol
Gonna try this out on my unactivated droid
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jadden said:
Gonna try this out on my unactivated droid
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This is similar to what I am running on my Droid Incredible. I use Sipdroid, with a Soho Pbxes account and GV. In this config I can go internationally, and as long as I have a wifi connection the calls will be free, including inbound.
Guys, I'm moving this to Apps and themes as it isn' strictly ROM DEV
Great work though, I'm hoping that we can get some sort of call / MMS support on the 3G model when released
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Or buy the groove IP app...
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I LOVE YOU!...So much more simple than the others. Thanks!
can you post more info on step #3 on how to do this? i'm lost at this point. dont understand sorry.....tyvm for any info
I have been using a similar setup for a while now, but minus the ipkall. If you have pbxes.org hooked into google voice, why do you need the intermediary number? And if you don't, how are you doing outgoing calls? Last I checked, ipkall was incoming only.
Hey to all members here,
We have just released Call+ https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.call.plus
The app uses data to place calls anywhere in the world. It comes with a full free day.
To get additional days simply complete an action and get 24hours of worldwide calling on mobiles or landlines.
We created this app to fill a gap between Google Voice and WiFi calling.
I've been on XDA for 10 years (yeah!!) and would love your feedback on the app. We will make it perfect for you guys.
Feel free to post your feedback on this thread. I will randomly give away 1 month of free calling to interesting feedbacks or comments.
Of course, I would LOVE if you could leave a rating on the Play Store.
Thank you XDA and members.
@cizake kindly include Pakistan in call list.
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Its called sickness !!!!!??
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Can you please add Cameroon in the coverage list ?
thahim said:
@cizake kindly include Pakistan in call list.
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Ok, we have added Pakistan to our coverage.
Feel free to leave a review on the Play Store.
Unexist6969 said:
Its called sickness !!!!!??
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Sorry I didn't get that.
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Ok, we have added Pakistan to our coverage.
Feel free to leave a review on the Play Store.
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Do I have to update the app to call Pakistani Numbers?when I call any mobile number in my country I get an announcement saying I will b3 charged.
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halifage said:
Can you please add Cameroon in the coverage list ?
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Unfortunately Cameroon is one of those countries where termination is super expensive
Once prices will go down we will add it.
But the app is working from Cameroon. So your relatives can call you for free.
thahim said:
Do I have to update the app to call Pakistani Numbers?
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Nope it's already working. We update routes on the server side.
cizake said:
Unfortunately Cameroon is one of those countries where termination is super expensive
Once prices will go down we will add it.
But the app is working from Cameroon. So your relatives can call you for free.
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Thanks mate
I'll inform them. Great app. Will rate after the first call
halifage said:
Thanks mate
I'll inform them. Great app. Will rate after the first call
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My pleasure.
You can also hit the thanks meter
Suggestions
Decent first version release.Very good call clarity.Impressed
Few things
Call log / recent is a must to quickly access the dialed numbers
Under contact, editing a contact would be great (just to add the country codes if the saved contact doesnt have)
T9 spped dial would be great as a feature
Favorites must be capable of adding a contact from the address book rather than having to type
Contact pics would help find contact easily.
Serbia and Montenegro
Please add Serbia and Montenegro to the coverage list :fingers-crossed:
Does it work with cellular data as well or only with wifi ?
Maybe this is a good substitute to zeroapp. Going to try it, thank you!
sathya said:
Decent first version release.Very good call clarity.Impressed
Few things
Call log / recent is a must to quickly access the dialed numbers
Under contact, editing a contact would be great (just to add the country codes if the saved contact doesnt have)
T9 spped dial would be great as a feature
Favorites must be capable of adding a contact from the address book rather than having to type
Contact pics would help find contact easily.
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Call logs are available through settings-->call logs
Editing a contact is something we need to work on. You are right.
T9 speed dial in the works
Yes you can add a favorite directly from your contact list. Go to Call+-->contacts-->select a contact-->upon tap you have the option to call or add to favorite.
Contact pics not on the docket as we want to keep the app very light.
Thank you for your feedback. PM me your phone # you used for registration I'd like to give you a perk.
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Does it work with cellular data as well or only with wifi ?
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Both. We worked hard to make the audio workable on slow-bandwidth connection. E or 3g.
jug68 said:
Please add Serbia and Montenegro to the coverage list :fingers-crossed:
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Too expensive for now BUT Call+ works from Serbia and Montenegro. So you can call the world
cizake said:
Too expensive for now BUT Call+ works from Serbia and Montenegro. So you can call the world
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Thank you!
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Yeah..Call logs are available but i meant to just click on it and i can call again so that i dont have to edit the country code if its not appended in my contact and also is there a way to clear the call log?
EDIT : I tried to add a contact to favorite as per your say but its not appearing under favorites section.A small bug probably?
And one more feature request would be to make the screen go off during taking and stay on the same screen instead of unlocking the screen and cutting the call post completion
There is anyway to show in the receiving calls more details from one contact (ex. company name)?
i Have the stock rom with the last update from oneplus
I don't know if this is ok with you but please try editing the label of your contact to whatever you want to display.
Please see attached.
Thank you for the advice, but doesnt work...
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Thank you for the advice, but doesnt work...
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i dont know if you have root? But you can install the google dialer app and framework and this is just the best dialer when it comes to showing information.
O dont have root.
To install that app i need rooted phone?