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Reasons NOT to upgrade to Galaxy Note 3

Thought I'd stay this thread because of all the threads supporting reasons TO upgrade to the new Note. I'll start with my reasons not to upgrade:
1. Doesn't seem like much of an improvement from my current phone GN2. In all of the videos I've seen (and I've seen a lot) the phone appears to perform at the same level as my phone. There are a few software additions but none seem too advanced for my hardware. Perhaps the hardware is much improved but are all improvement really warranted? I mean, I'm holding in my hand a QUAD-CORE device with 2gb of ram and I almost feel like this is a little overkill. I rarely notice lag, can run any app or game I throw at it, and have never noticed any pixilation.
2. Not big on unwarranted consumerism. Much of the reviews I've seen are reminiscent of the iPhone craze; products are always marketed as being Must-have items. And if you don't have the newest and shiniest item, you considered light years behind the masses... I just don't buy it. My last phone, the nexus s, was just barely starting to show its age with the jellybean update and for a few years now, most devices have far surpassed my old Nexus S.
Here is one of the only reviews that didn't insist that I run out and buy the Note. It was kinda refreshing to read after being completely inundated by what seemed to be a very aggressive marketing ploy:
http://www.idigitaltimes.com/articles/19803/20130906/samsung-galaxy-note-3-vs-2-buy.htm
Your thoughts please

If I had the Note 2, I would agree with you. I think skipping a generation is wise. If you have a 2 year contract, it won't cost much to upgrade at that point and you will see a much greater improvement in performance and features.
I am upgrading from the Note to the Note 3, I skipped the 2 for most of the reasons you cite, however, I did ROM my Note to get ICS then JB so I didn't have to wait for Samsung and my carrier to upgrade the OS.
For those on the fence, consider changing the ROM before upgrading.

I don't have a Note 2 but I know it's a great device. If I did own one it would be a tough decision to upgrade. I'll be coming from a GS2 which has served me well. If you plan on keeping a device for quite awhile, the Snapdragon 800 supports LTE Advanced but who knows when we will see that in the US. I would guess it will be within 2 years though

Ask yourself this. Is your note 2 rooted and rommed? if so it might run pretty good and i had one for several months and one of if not my favorite device to date. Now compare a rooted/rommed note 2 to a stock note 3. about the same you may say. Now imagine a rooted/rommed note 3? Blazing fast. I dont "NEED" the note 3 but i felt the note 2 is lacking when compared to the note 3 now. And the screen you can so see pixelation on the note 2 if you cant i just dont believe that. Note 3 with 4.3 out of the box, s800, 3 gb of ram, bigger screen with better ppi and resolution, better s pen. I could go on all night but i dont see a negative to the note 3 except maybe the price but its the same price point as note 2 was so not much to say there

haemaker said:
If I had the Note 2, I would agree with you. I think skipping a generation is wise. If you have a 2 year contract, it won't cost much to upgrade at that point and you will see a much greater improvement in performance and features.
I am upgrading from the Note to the Note 3, I skipped the 2 for most of the reasons you cite, however, I did ROM my Note to get ICS then JB so I didn't have to wait for Samsung and my carrier to upgrade the OS.
For those on the fence, consider changing the ROM before upgrading.
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Skipping a generation does seem much more reasonable than going from one to the next. It just seems like hardware advancement may be outpacing the software. I remember being in complete awe over the first dual-core device. If it weren't for motherboard giving out in my core 2duo Thinkpad, I think I'd still be rocking that today. And now quad core....
DataHawg said:
I don't have a Note 2 but I know it's a great device. If I did own one it would be a tough decision to upgrade. I'll be coming from a GS2 which has served me well. If you plan on keeping a device for quite awhile, the Snapdragon 800 supports LTE Advanced but who knows when we will see that in the US. I would guess it will be within 2 years though
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In two years time we'll likely have a new Note on the market. I'm still waiting for the NFC chip in my ancient Nexus S to gain widespread appeal.
oneandroidnut said:
Ask yourself this. Is your note 2 rooted and rommed? if so it might run pretty good and i had one for several months and one of if not my favorite device to date. Now compare a rooted/rommed note 2 to a stock note 3. about the same you may say. Now imagine a rooted/rommed note 3? Blazing fast. I dont "NEED" the note 3 but i felt the note 2 is lacking when compared to the note 3 now. And the screen you can so see pixelation on the note 2 if you cant i just dont believe that. Note 3 with 4.3 out of the box, s800, 3 gb of ram, bigger screen with better ppi and resolution, better s pen. I could go on all night but i dont see a negative to the note 3 except maybe the price but its the same price point as note 2 was so not much to say there
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Yes, I'm rooted. "Blazing fast" you say? How much time can you shave off from .5 seconds? And how much money is each tenth of a second worth? There's no denying the hardware improvements. I'm simply not convinced that there's enough advancement in utility to justify spending the money Samsung is asking me to spend. And perhaps I don't notice pixilation because I'm looking at the screen from reading distance. If that's the case, I stand corrected.

While I do agree with your points, the main reason I am upgrading to the n3 from my n2 is the bigger storage defaulted at 32gb minimum (25gb actual usage) better resolution and better s-pen support. I understand not everyone has the money to spend on upgrades every year, but for those that do might as well have the latest n greatest!
Sent from my note 2 ya bish!

note 1 to note 2, vs note 1 to note 3
I have the Note1, when the 2 came out, I said that there wasn't much worth jumping, but the N1 to N3 jump
will be a better option. I agree, unless something "game changing" happens, it's usually better to skip a version.
Well, that is unless you are an iPhone drone...ANYTHING that comes out new, 3, 3S, 4, 4S, 5...heck it hasn't
changed, but the iSheep sure stand in line

Bruce lee roy said:
In all of the videos I've seen (and I've seen a lot) the phone appears to perform at the same level as my phone. There are a few software additions but none seem too advanced for my hardware.
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I have a N2 (which I love) but mine's surely different than yours if yours performs like the one in GSMArena's unboxing video. The amount of lag on the N2 pinch-zooming to display multiple home pages is obvious vs. what's shown on the N3. Same thing for using S Note and Action Memo (formerly Pop Up Note). Now if you're rooted and running a non-TW ROM that may be a different story. If you are, that’s great. But believe it or not people actually do buy the Note for its marketed productivity and creation features. And those features will perform significantly better on the N3 because of the advanced h/w and improved s/w.
Not big on unwarranted consumerism.
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That's a valid point. Replacing my N2 with a N3 is a want not a need. I could spout some random commentary about "increased productivity" but I'm getting a N3 because the differences are sufficient enough to me to warrant the investment; even though it's purely discretionary. You and others may feel differently and that’s perfectly fine. There’s nothing wrong with the N2.
Here is one of the only reviews that didn't insist that I run out and buy the Note.
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Doesn't that in and of itself say something? Or are all the positive reviews (actually "hands on") just part of the conspiracy?
It was kinda refreshing to read after being completely inundated by what seemed to be a very aggressive marketing ploy
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That's kind of funny. So you think Samsung should say in their marketing “the N3 is a meh upgrade from the N2 that only people who are irresponsible with their finances or easily influenced should buy?" I'm in marketing and spend every business day figuring out how to separate people from their money. If you're looking for honesty, integrity, and conscience you're not going to find it in sales and marketing. At least not at a for-profit company.
Here are links to two different threads that detail some of the differences between the N2 and N3. Whether they are worthwhile or not is subjective and I wouldn't fault either camp (keep N2/upgrade to N3) for their decision. And theads like this are swell and "pro" threads are too; as long as people provide their opinions followed by "for/to me." I'm very pro and you're pretty down on the N3. Neither of us is right or wrong.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2438466
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2445774

I have a galaxy S 2. I'm loving this upcoming upgrade for myself.

I don't know what everyone's layout/plan is, but I have 2 smartphones and 2 feature phones (both of which don't use upgrades). So I can get an upgrade every year at subsidy pricing. So every year I upgrade and sell the old to neutralize the cost of it (some cases making money). Waiting would cause the old phone to depreciate too much and make upgrading more expensive. So I don't really upgrade based on features, more to continue advancing with little to no cost (or rebate).

Fact of the matter is if History repeats itself like it always does
People will buy it or upgrade to N3 anyways even the ones here saying skip it.
Its not the ram cam... or CPU its the ir blaster that's a big selling point I believe.
I think the lg g2 is more appealing as crazy and that sounds .
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I have the note 2 and plan to get the N3 as long as the bootloader is not locked or if it is wait to see if it can be cracked.
Why would I buy it since I have the N2 (and an s3 & s4) you ask? Simple answer is because I can, and I dont say that in arrogant way..its just not a big deal to me to buy a few devices per year.i may pick up the nexus 5 as well..who knows lol.
The 2 things ( and they are minor) I dislike are cosmetic. The back cover is awful and I dont like how the spen just sticks out. On the note 2 its curved and blends in with the back...it looks sleek.
Other than that all good.
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force70 said:
I have the note 2 and plan to get the N3 as long as the bootloader is not locked or if it is wait to see if it can be cracked.
Why would I buy it since I have the N2 (and an s3 & s4) you ask? Simple answer is because I can, and I dont say that in arrogant way..its just not a big deal to me to buy a few devices per year.i may pick up the nexus 5 as well..who knows lol.
The 2 things ( and they are minor) I dislike are cosmetic. The back cover is awful and I dont like how the spen just sticks out. On the note 2 its curved and blends in with the back...it looks sleek.
Other than that all good.
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+1 to that.
I say that skipping a generation is a great and very economical idea, save your money plus really see the difference when you do upgrade.
However, If you have the money and do not need to justify the upgrade, then I'M right there with you. The Note series is just perfect for me, from music, movies, drawing, photoshoping, roms and games. There is no question that I will be getting the N3 and the N4 the N5....... and so on.
Thanks to the OP for posting. It is always nice to see both sides.

i also have a Gnote and i didn't get a Gnote2 because i reasoned the same as the OP ... not much of a difference.
now the Gnote to the Gnote3 will be a HUGE upgrade this phone looks sick :highfive:

Meh.. I have a 2 month old HTC one and will be selling it to get the note 3
Love my HTC one .. but
- i want the bigger screen
- I want the s pen
- I love the design of the note 3
- I get bored easily with phones
- I got my HTC one free cause I work for a carrier.
- Samsung phone hold there value better than HTC phones
- I fear support dropping off for HTC since they are struggling as a company
- I upgrade as often as possible so that my previous device hasn't depreciated much and it's cheaper to upgrade.
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I love my Note 2 but I upgrade every year. Before that I had a Verizon Nexus; 2 completely different devices so you really notice the improvement right away. But this year I don't feel as excited about going from a Note 2 to a Note 3 especially after buying a Note 10.1 a month ago. I picked up a LG G2 on Sunday and I find it very nice. Smaller but just as powerful as a Note 3. After carrying the Note 2 around since launch day going back to a smaller phone feels nice. And if you think about it there is only 0.1" difference between the 5.2" G2 vs the original Note 5.3" display. So your not giving up tons in screen size but it feels more comfortable. You do however give up the S-Pen.
I've only had 1 day with the G2 but there's not many options. Sure I can get the HTC One for $49 or the S4 for $100 but those phones are reaching their mid life crisis. The phone I really want is the Nexus 5 but not sure if I can give up my reliable service for prepaid.

Having owned several Exynos (fabbed by Samsung) based devices including the Note II I appreciate the stability where it's rare or non-existent to experience a random reboot, app suddenly exiting, etc. Can't say the same for my devices based on Qualcomm fabbed by TSMC. If Snapdragon is the only US option then I'll probably skip Note III, wait for Note IV and hope for return of Exynos. A fast unstable device is useless to me like the Snapdragon based Nexus 7 (2013) that I'm experiencing overheating instablity issues with.

clninja said:
Meh.. I have a 2 month old HTC one and will be selling it to get the note 3
Love my HTC one .. but
- i want the bigger screen
- I want the s pen
- I love the design of the note 3
- I get bored easily with phones
- I got my HTC one free cause I work for a carrier.
- Samsung phone hold there value better than HTC phones
- I fear support dropping off for HTC since they are struggling as a company
- I upgrade as often as possible so that my previous device hasn't depreciated much and it's cheaper to upgrade.
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Going from an HTC One or even a S4 is understandable. It's the people that already have Note 2. Especially since the Note 2 has a unlocked bootloader right now. There should be customs roms based on the Note 3 ported over to the Note 2 pretty soon I'd imagine.

I have the original Note and reasoned that I'd skip a generation so the Note 3 is on my shopping list, but I don't think I'll go for it, at least not initially. I never buy with a plan, use only prepaid because I actually don't call people, I complement it with a surfing plan, but they don't offer those for LTE yet. Besides, my Note I bought outside Japan so there was only Samsung bloatware on it, Japanese operators load their phones with so much crap it is laughable, hence if you can't root and install a standard Samsung ROM, I happen to be happy with Touchwiz, then I'd be happier with what I have.
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For me price could be one factor which will keep me away from note 3. I will buy it later on when price will drop.

Opinion: Samsung’s Galaxy Note is the iPhone of the Android world

http://www.sammobile.com/2014/03/27/opinion-samsungs-galaxy-note-is-the-iphone-of-the-android-world/
Great Article, worth reading.
Sent from Note 3 (The beauty & beast)

sohebq said:
http://www.sammobile.com/2014/03/27/opinion-samsungs-galaxy-note-is-the-iphone-of-the-android-world/
Great Article, worth reading.
Sent from Note 3 (The beauty & beast)
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Actually no, the Sx (last year S4, soon S5) is the iphone of the Android world, with around 30-40 million units sold for the yearly Sx vs about 3-5 for the corresponding Note. Vs around 50 million iphones.
The Note is like a super-iphone, which in 1-2 years Apple will probably also "invent" (read - steal the idea) in order to reverse the current trend in their sales.

^^
Actually the article compared the loyality of iphone with Samsung. Its true that note series users are more satisfied with samsung than S series users. I have hardly seen anyone going from note 2 or note 3 to small screens or even similar but I have seen a lot of users from S series moved to sony, htc and Lg.
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sohebq said:
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Actually the article compared the loyality of iphone with Samsung. Its true that note series users are more satisfied with samsung than S series users. I have hardly seen anyone going from note 2 or note 3 to small screens or even similar but I have seen a lot of users from S series moved to sony, htc and Lg.
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Former S user using Note 3 and more then happy, next phone will be a Note series, S series no more thanks.

xclub_101 said:
Actually no, the Sx (last year S4, soon S5) is the iphone of the Android world, with around 30-40 million units sold for the yearly Sx vs about 3-5 for the corresponding Note. Vs around 50 million iphones.
The Note is like a super-iphone, which in 1-2 years Apple will probably also "invent" (read - steal the idea) in order to reverse the current trend in their sales.
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What the article was really saying is people with the note series tend to be more faithfully then the s series just like Apple fanboys are with iPhones
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dakunclear said:
What the article was really saying is people with the note series tend to be more faithfully then the s series just like Apple fanboys are with iPhones
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A lot of that is not a matter of "being faithful to the brand" but instead a combination of a very minor part of that plus:
- no alternative to S-Pen
- no alternative phablets with microSD + replaceable battery + enough mass to have both a decent accessory market and a decent ROM prospect in the future (if you think that Samsung is not great with the updates consider that most of the Chinese stuff never gets any update and are never supported by something like CM).
That being said - the Note line is not the main cash-cow, 3-5 million units is very little compared to 50 million units; it is far from zero so it is a pretty lucrative niche, but still not in the first line, and the way I see the evolution of things with Samsung I would expect that S5 mini might get a lot more attention from a certain segment of the market (but that depends a lot on the specs and even more so on the price).

It's much easier to be faithful to a unique product that meets specific needs, than it is to a product designed to have as wide an appeal as possible.
The iPhone, like the Galaxy S4/S5, is designed for mass-market, to be a flagship, primarily bought on contract by technical and non-technical consumers and primarily from network operator stores. People walk in wanting 'an iPhone' or 'a Galaxy' and will be led to what is considered 'best' at the time.
The Note is not going to appeal to everyone due to its size - something some people hate it for - so when people buy one, they are doing so having researched and thought carefully about their needs. They buy that product specifically and tend to know their requirements technically and specifically.
Therefore loyalty will be higher, it has been a very deliberate and considered decision.

Robster83 said:
It's much easier to be faithful to a unique product that meets specific needs, than it is to a product designed to have as wide an appeal as possible.
The iPhone, like the Galaxy S4/S5, is designed for mass-market, to be a flagship, primarily bought on contract by technical and non-technical consumers and primarily from network operator stores. People walk in wanting 'an iPhone' or 'a Galaxy' and will be led to what is considered 'best' at the time.
The Note is not going to appeal to everyone due to its size - something some people hate it for - so when people buy one, they are doing so having researched and thought carefully about their needs. They buy that product specifically and tend to know their requirements technically and specifically.
Therefore loyalty will be higher, it has been a very deliberate and considered decision.
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Very true. I do miss the size of the smaller phones though. But when it comes to reading and watching media, note is brilliant
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How?
iPhones have hardware of 2 years ago, the Note is ahead of everyone.
People who use iPhones are blind to all their faults, we grumble and complain about KNOX on a daily basis.
iPhones are meant for users who want simple, our Note has more features than an iPhone user can handle.
iPhons are meant for the common cattle, our Note 3 is meant for a specific group of people.
I'm not seeing it. We love our Note 3 because there is, in terms of hardware, nothing out there of equal level. Even the newer devices are less. But we are not blind to its faults.

ShadowLea said:
How?
iPhones have hardware of 2 years ago, the Note is ahead of everyone.
People who use iPhones are blind to all their faults, we grumble and complain about KNOX on a daily basis.
iPhones are meant for users who want simple, our Note has more features than an iPhone user can handle.
iPhons are meant for the common cattle, our Note 3 is meant for a specific group of people.
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IPhone is not a phone, it's more like your buying IOS with the hardware you can afford.... and speaking my mind, the moment Nokia WP8 has a pen device( or enhanced screen tap precision), bye bye arrogant Google android& crappy Sammy...:good:

htc9420 said:
IPhone is not a phone, it's more like your buying IOS with the hardware you can afford.... and speaking my mind, the moment Nokia WP8 has a pen device( or enhanced screen tap precision), bye bye arrogant Google android& crappy Sammy...:good:
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I hate Windows phone metro style
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ShadowLea said:
How?
iPhones have hardware of 2 years ago, the Note is ahead of everyone.
People who use iPhones are blind to all their faults, we grumble and complain about KNOX on a daily basis.
iPhones are meant for users who want simple, our Note has more features than an iPhone user can handle.
iPhons are meant for the common cattle, our Note 3 is meant for a specific group of people.
I'm not seeing it. We love our Note 3 because there is, in terms of hardware, nothing out there of equal level. Even the newer devices are less. But we are not blind to its faults.
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I do agree with you, but not entirely. I am a huge Android fanboy and after switching from iOS I've never looked back. However Apple has made iOS very specific to it's hardware it's a marriage between software and hardware that works They do have some very cool features aswell. Sapphire glass, a faster response touch screen, 64bit processor, camera that does 120fps video.
I still recommend iPhone to certain people that aren't interested in custom Roms and want a phone with a very basic interface. iPhone does that really well. The phone itself is very pretty and has a really premium feel to it.
I personally cannot handle the restrictions especially iTunes! As well as not being able to simply bluetooth a simple file from one device to another.
Credit where credit is due though.
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LiMz said:
I do agree with you, but not entirely. I am a huge Android fanboy and after switching from iOS I've never looked back. However Apple has made iOS very specific to it's hardware it's a marriage between software and hardware that works They do have some very cool features aswell. Sapphire glass, a faster response touch screen, 64bit processor, camera that does 120fps video.
I still recommend iPhone to certain people that aren't interested in custom Roms and want a phone with a very basic interface. iPhone does that really well. The phone itself is very pretty and has a really premium feel to it.
I personally cannot handle the restrictions especially iTunes! As well as not being able to simply bluetooth a simple file from one device to another.
Credit where credit is due though.
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You do realize a 64bit CPU is entirely pointless with only 1GB RAM? Its main feature is to support more than 3GB... Another one of those typical "I have it. Can't use it, don't know what it's for, but I have it and you don't" gimmicks on an iPhone...
What I hate most about Apple is the ridiculous process of files communicating between itself and the system. Try editing a .mp3 and then setting it as a ringtone. Can't be done without a computer with itunes to transfer the file from the phone to the pc and back to the phone. What. The. Bleeding. Hell.
I've had iPhone users comment on how much faster my Note 3 is than their iPhone 5S... So... (Also, how they love the homescreen and its freedom.)
As for premium feel... So far I've seen maybe 6 iphones without a broken screen. (And I commute an average of 7 hours a day on the busy Berlin-Schiphol airport train.) There's not much premium about a shattered screen, nor is there anything premium about needing a hideous rubber case to prevent said screen from breaking when you drop it from more than 5cm...
I'll recommend iPhones too, to 92 year old grannies who have never used a phone, or the sad little people who think more than 1 button is too complicated. (Those are the same people I recommend they remove themselves from the gene pool to improve it.)
My dad has never owned a smartphone until last month (He never saw the point. He does now.) and the very first thing he said was "I'd rather have no phone at all than one of those dictator-iphones. I want to decide what it does, not the phone. If I wanted to be dictated in everything by someone else, I'd go live in North Korea." The man has a point... :highfive: (So he bought an LG L5-II, and this morning he shows up at the breakfast table with a "I've been thinking about getting the same phone as you." :victory: Success!)

ShadowLea said:
You do realize a 64bit CPU is entirely pointless with only 1GB RAM? Its main feature is to support more than 3GB... Another one of those typical "I have it. Can't use it, don't know what it's for, but I have it and you don't" gimmicks on an iPhone...
What I hate most about Apple is the ridiculous process of files communicating between itself and the system. Try editing a .mp3 and then setting it as a ringtone. Can't be done without a computer with itunes to transfer the file from the phone to the pc and back to the phone. What. The. Bleeding. Hell.
I've had iPhone users comment on how much faster my Note 3 is than their iPhone 5S... So... (Also, how they love the homescreen and its freedom.)
As for premium feel... So far I've seen maybe 6 iphones without a broken screen. (And I commute an average of 7 hours a day on the busy Berlin-Schiphol airport train.) There's not much premium about a shattered screen, nor is there anything premium about needing a hideous rubber case to prevent said screen from breaking when you drop it from more than 5cm...
I'll recommend iPhones too, to 92 year old grannies who have never used a phone, or the sad little people who think more than 1 button is too complicated. (Those are the same people I recommend they remove themselves from the gene pool to improve it.)
My dad has never owned a smartphone until last month (He never saw the point. He does now.) and the very first thing he said was "I'd rather have no phone at all than one of those dictator-iphones. I want to decide what it does, not the phone. If I wanted to be dictated in everything by someone else, I'd go live in North Korea." The man has a point... :highfive: (So he bought an LG L5-II, and this morning he shows up at the breakfast table with a "I've been thinking about getting the same phone as you." :victory: Success!)
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iTunes really is a killjoy.
And yup, widgets and home screens make your phone a whole lot more informative and pretty.
If you could change something about your note 3. What would it be?
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LiMz said:
iTunes really is a killjoy.
And yup, widgets and home screens make your phone a whole lot more informative and pretty.
If you could change something about your note 3. What would it be?
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Apart from KNOX?
I'd want the USB3 to work as USB3 and not as 2.1 , get rid of that bottleneck MTP (google's fault that) and a different, bigger sensor in the camera. The camera is rubbish, but I didn't buy the phone for that. (I own an EOS70D) It's still a flaw, though.
I haven't had the same issue with speaker quality as others mention so I can't comment on that.

ShadowLea said:
Apart from KNOX?
I'd want the USB3 to work as USB3 and not as 2.1 , get rid of that bottleneck MTP (google's fault that) and a different, bigger sensor in the camera. The camera is rubbish, but I didn't buy the phone for that. (I own an EOS70D) It's still a flaw, though.
I haven't had the same issue with speaker quality as others mention so I can't comment on that.
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Speaker sound is "muffled" that's for sure, and the volume a bit low... Even my previous S3 sounded better, especially when applying the volume increase MOD (Ahhhh... miss the root features, :crying... I know it's too much to ask for apart from all the premium features, but another speaker on the top would have given the sound a great stereo, surround feel

ShadowLea said:
Apart from KNOX?
I'd want the USB3 to work as USB3 and not as 2.1 , get rid of that bottleneck MTP (google's fault that) and a different, bigger sensor in the camera. The camera is rubbish, but I didn't buy the phone for that. (I own an EOS70D) It's still a flaw, though.
I haven't had the same issue with speaker quality as others mention so I can't comment on that.
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I enjoy the camera though. I have a Sony SLT-A57. Obviously can't mention the two in the same breath but For a tiny sensor it does quite well. What's your take on the HTC upx sensor? I'm contemplating an M8
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LiMz said:
I enjoy the camera though. I have a Sony SLT-A57. Obviously can't mention the two in the same breath but For a tiny sensor it does quite well. What's your take on the HTC upx sensor? I'm contemplating an M8
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Dual 4MP, not familiar with that system, but it's still a 1/3.0" sensor. The problem is they make smartphone CMOS from the rubbush left over from the plate they use to make the rest of the sensors. Middle bit of the plate is the best and goes in a Full-frame, next the APS-C, then the lower end DSLRs, then the high end compacts, then the low end compacts, and whatever is left over is used in smartphones.
So even with 100Map ,you'd still get the aquarel effect, blur, noise and colour issues. We're quintessentially dealing with rubbish.
Wait for a few of the serious picture tests, they might give a better indication.

imho the only android device that competes with an iPhone is the Google nexus series . Apple is a lot better than Samsung quality wise , also their warranty is a lot less a hassle , Sammy has lost its way and is actually writing its own version of the communist manifesto.

Despite KNOX and things like cheap plastic, I still like Samsung for many reasons. They will always create products that will fit users need and they will present it that way. For those who are not on note series considers it huge in size, not pocket friendly and so on. But those who have used it knows that this is true class of Samsung and this is to be kept. I have seen many S series users moving away from Samsung but hardly saw anyone from note series to move. This is Loyalty.

Anyone else disappointed in the S6? (List those reasons)

I am really disappointed @ ‪#‎Samsung‬ !!! what have they done to the S6!! No removable battery, no water resistance, and worst of all NO MICRO SD card!! ‪#‎thenextbigflop‬‪. Samsung is going down hill, what a shame. One step forward and 3 steps back....i was really looking forward to it, i owned the S1, S2, S3, S4 and skipped the S5 figuring ide wait for the S6...now after the wait i'm really disappointed, i'de figure they would add some improvements, not remove the previous improvements.... Anyone else feel the same way? List those reason, maybe Samsung will listen, although it may be too little to late, they will lose major market share in premium handsets because of this move.

yeahh i'm pretty sad too... no removable battery, no extended storage.... it quite annoys me that the jack-port is on the bottom, and oh, if we are at the bottom: my first thought was "oh look, an iphone 6!"

I actually loved what they did with the S6. I had the S3 and S4, completely ignored the S5, but now Samsung has my attention again. I've never needed a microSD card and if battery life can last me 24 hours, that's really all I need. I have to say, I am very impressed overall with the S6.

I don't like the fact that it is no longer waterproof.
I have an S5 and although I don't dunk it in water, I do like the fact that I don't have to worry if I'm out and about in wet weather. From a simple mechanical engineering perspective, I would have thought the S6 would be easier to make waterproof than the S5 - smaller (USB2) port, sealed back, etc.

Well, I am pretty disappointed in the new Samsung S6. With the changes from the S4 (which I have), to the S5, and now the S6, it is pretty obvious Samsung does not have a concrete strategy and are just trying a shotgun method and see what sticks. The fact that they took out the removable battery feature and also MicroSD card is a deal breaker for me and I won't be purchasing the phone or any similar models like it in the future. This is just me personally, but if I were going to buy the S6 like it is right now, I'd rather just get the new Nexus 6 instead.

Totally disappointed, what happens when the battery starts going, we all know that'll happen down the road. Also why the hell should I buy a more expensive model for more gigs when I have a 128g sd card. I waited so long for this like you all I skipped the 5. Guess I'll have to get a note 4 with my upgrade and if they continue what they're doing I'll have to switch company's in the future.

Here are the cons in my view, in decreasing order of importance:
Exynos instead of Qualcomm's 810, which means most likely no quality custom ROMs
not waterproof
no exchangeable battery
no SD card, hence be extra careful with them factory resets

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Here are the cons in my view, in decreasing order of importance:
Exynos instead of Qualcomm's 810, which means most likely no quality custom ROMs
not waterproof
no exchangeable battery
no SD card, hence be extra careful with them factory resets
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1. Not true at all....
2. The S5 isn't WATERPROOF either..
3. I seriously wonder how many times you've changed your battery?
Please get your facts straight before posting ignorant things like this

So far I had almost all Galaxy phones, even started with an Omnia. I had the Spica, S, S II, S3, and now I own Note 3. But the S4 was not much more than the S3, so I bought the Note 3, specially for the big screen. The S5 was good again, but smaller than my Note, and not much faster. The Note 4 didn't have any real improvements over the Note 3.
But this one? It probably means no custom roms, another KNOX flag, no SD card, and you can't rip the battery out if it boot loops. And it's just too expensive. I think, I'll try out an Asus Zenfone 2 with 4GB RAM and 64 bit x86 processor.

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I seriously wonder how many times you've changed your battery?
Please get your facts straight before posting ignorant things like this
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I permenantly carry a spare battery with me for my S4 and swap it out at least a couple of times every week. I also need to have 128GB space on top of my internal RAM. so I am not happy at all about this release.

I've posted in several threads already, my requirements for phone are pretty simple:
- AMOLED display
- Capacitive buttons below the actual display with hard home button
- Removable battery (for the inevitable time when it starts losing its charge)
- SD card because I do not want to keep everything in the cloud and because I do not want to pay megabucks for 64GB+ of onboard storage
- Cyanogenmod support
- Not too big (no phablets for me, even 5.1" is pushing it for me)
- Easy to repair if something breaks
Up until now Galaxy S line was perfect for me. Without removable battery or storage S6 has lost a lot of its appeal to me. The exynos processor is also hard to develop for, if you google, exynos processors have a very spotty Cyanogenmod support. Because of all this S6 is a non starter for me.
I've said it before, I think the new S6 look good if not downright gorgeous, but I cannot ignore the drawbacks. I'm sure Samsung will sell S6 in record numbers, I'm just sad that it's getting harder if not impossible to hit all the bulletpoints on my list. S4/S5 were the last phones where I didn't have to compromise on anything on my wish list. After S5 I'm going to have to give up one or the other feature if I ever want to get a new phone.

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I am really disappointed @ ‪#‎Samsung‬ !!! what have they done to the S6!! No removable battery, no water resistance, and worst of all NO MICRO SD card!! ‪#‎thenextbigflop‬‪. Samsung is going down hill, what a shame. One step forward and 3 steps back....i was really looking forward to it, i owned the S1, S2, S3, S4 and skipped the S5 figuring ide wait for the S6...now after the wait i'm really disappointed, i'de figure they would add some improvements, not remove the previous improvements.... Anyone else feel the same way? List those reason, maybe Samsung will listen, although it may be too little to late, they will lose major market share in premium handsets because of this move.
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Not much to add. I concur 100% with everything you said, and I mean everything!!! I also owned the S1, S2, S3, S4 and skipped th S5... Battery and Micro SD, super deal breaker for me!!! What they were thinking? Where did they do they mktg research??? Certainly not here! I'm so freaking upset....
What other premium Android phone has a removable battery and micro SD? I can't give up any of those 2. I have four (4) spare batteries for my S4. My S4 has rarely seen a wall plug in the last year...

I wonder if the new Note will have this set up as well ? I take a lot of pictures, so I use the MicroSD card extensively and that was one of the main reasons I got rid of my iPhone (among many) was because Apple was gouging just to have internal storage.
Like the other posters, I may look either at an older version or the Galaxy or another phone. The LG G3 actually created a removable battery from the G2 and has a microSD.
I believe the HTC M8 has a microSD but no removable battery. Of course the Nexus is just like the new Galaxy S6 except more custom ROM friendly.

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1. Not true at all....
2. The S5 isn't WATERPROOF either..
3. I seriously wonder how many times you've changed your battery?
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1. True. The Exynos platform is a dead end as far as AOSP custom roms are concerned. Modded stock roms are.....well....modded stock roms.
2. The S5 is IP67 rated. It has been tested by many reviewers and users independently and found to satisfy that IP67 rating.
3. I seriously wonder how many times one needs to change a battery before having the ability to change the battery becomes important...
Please get your facts straight... :angel:
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I am really disappointed @ ‪#‎Samsung‬ !!! what have they done to the S6!! No removable battery, no water resistance, and worst of all NO MICRO SD card!! ‪#‎thenextbigflop‬‪. Samsung is going down hill, what a shame. One step forward and 3 steps back....i was really looking forward to it, i owned the S1, S2, S3, S4 and skipped the S5 figuring ide wait for the S6...now after the wait i'm really disappointed, i'de figure they would add some improvements, not remove the previous improvements.... Anyone else feel the same way? List those reason, maybe Samsung will listen, although it may be too little to late, they will lose major market share in premium handsets because of this move.
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I actually loved what they did with the S6. I had the S3 and S4, completely ignored the S5, but now Samsung has my attention again. I've never needed a microSD card and if battery life can last me 24 hours, that's really all I need. I have to say, I am very impressed overall with the S6.
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Totally disappointed, what happens when the battery starts going, we all know that'll happen down the road. Also why the hell should I buy a more expensive model for more gigs when I have a 128g sd card. I waited so long for this like you all I skipped the 5. Guess I'll have to get a note 4 with my upgrade and if they continue what they're doing I'll have to switch company's in the future.
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Not much to add. I concur 100% with everything you said, and I mean everything!!! I also owned the S1, S2, S3, S4 and skipped th S5... Battery and Micro SD, super deal breaker for me!!! What they were thinking? Where did they do they mktg research??? Certainly not here! I'm so freaking upset....
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Why did you guys all skip the Galaxy S5 (given that it was the best of the Galaxy S series - if you ignore TouchWiz's attrocious performance issues)?
I ask because many have expressed the view that the poorer-than-expected sales figures for the S5 (presumably compared to the Galaxy Alphas) led to these design decisions for the S6.

Although I would FAR prefer it had a removable battery, if Samsung's efficiency claims are true, I could probably live with the S6 on that account. Water resistance would have been a nice addition, although not a deal breaker. No SD card is by far the biggest negative for me. I will not use any cloud service for a number of reasons, and being locked into even 128GB of non-expandable storage makes this phone a huge disappointment to me. If it just had an SD slot, I would almost certainly buy the 128GB, non-Edge version, although I still want to see what the G4 & Z4 have to offer. As of now, the S6 is no longer even a consideration for me. Maybe they'll come out with a Developer Edition/Active/Rugged version with an SD card, in which case I'd probably continue buying Samsung, because spec-wise, the S6 looks head and shoulders above every contender. They managed to include a SIM slot, they could have easily added an SD slot.

Goes to show that we can't have everything. Waterproof, removable battery, and added SD card means plastic casing. Metal casing means none of the above. People will always complain till they can put the 2 together.
I personally prefer to have the above even though it means plastic casing. It's what it is inside and what it can do that counts. Not what it look like or what it is made of. Just my 2 cents..
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Here are the cons in my view, in decreasing order of importance:
Exynos instead of Qualcomm's 810, which means most likely no quality custom ROMs
not waterproof
no exchangeable battery
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The same here.
S6 is a shame. Useless for sy who wants to use his/her knowledge and freedom in a tidy way.

XeoNoX said:
I am really disappointed @ ‪#‎Samsung‬ !!! what have they done to the S6!! No removable battery, no water resistance, and worst of all NO MICRO SD card!! ‪#‎thenextbigflop‬‪. Samsung is going down hill, what a shame. One step forward and 3 steps back....i was really looking forward to it, i owned the S1, S2, S3, S4 and skipped the S5 figuring ide wait for the S6...now after the wait i'm really disappointed, i'de figure they would add some improvements, not remove the previous improvements.... Anyone else feel the same way? List those reason, maybe Samsung will listen, although it may be too little to late, they will lose major market share in premium handsets because of this move.
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Where to begin?
No removable battery a glass back not to mention gorilla glass hype that i can not stand it is just tempered glass. Iphone 6 look right down to the horrid flattened capsule shape that is a very weak shape. If i want a iphone 6 ill get a iphone 6. Why the hell they made it look like a iphone i have no clue. And a glass back just means more glass to break. No sd card no removable battery all huge mistakes. Im a repair tech and i will not buy or recommend this phone unless it is very easy to get worked on. Even then ill likely steer people towards another companies flag ship device or the note 3 or 4 or if samsung done copy the s6 crap to the note 5 a note 5. This phone is just one big mistake.

the only thing im disappointed about is the release date, april 10???!?!?!?!

MiyagiSan said:
Why did you guys all skip the Galaxy S5 (given that it was the best of the Galaxy S series - if you ignore TouchWiz's attrocious performance issues)?
I ask because many have expressed the view that the poorer-than-expected sales figures for the S5 (presumably compared to the Galaxy Alphas) led to these design decisions for the S6.
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Mostly because I've already had my Note 3. And I bought the Note 3, because to me the S4 was only a refurbished S3. By the time the i9505 the LTE model with the Snapdragon chip came out the Note 3 was already hyped, and then I fell in love with the huge screen I can still carry in my pocket. And the S5 is almost the same specs, but with smaller screen, and less RAM, and only 16GB avalilable unless you want to dig around a lot.

I don't feel the need of getting the next samsung device, what are your opinions?

Its all the same, nevertheless. I find nexus 6P more elegant and unique, thus the reason buying it because theres so many people with samsung devices, even low class people which just filters out its uniqueness and its price tag making it look worthless outside. What are your opinions? If your on Samsung S6/Edge/+, would you have the need to upgrade to an device such as Samsung S7?
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I've posted an explanation as to what low class in this instance means. forgive me if it had you in any way, i was never trying to make any of you owners sad, its just that for so many, they have this phone and it just gets rid of its status 'elegant'. Elegant is ment to be beautiful, stylish. But when everyone has this 'elegant' phone, where does the definition exist of being stylish?
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I love the samsung edge because its invention of curve screen. I've even had friends give them to me to try for an hour or so. The thing is that, i don't like people having the same phone as me. I was about to get the nexus 5x but one of my friends got it, so i went ahead with nexus 6p. But that doesnt mean that i would get another new phone if someone else has the same phone as me because that would be regarded as wasting money.

I agree I'm in a bond my Samsung smartphone if I should get the new one must have something waw and cool and interesting

I got my Galaxy S phone to be different from everybody else.
Then I got my Galaxy S4/S5 because they were simply the best.
Samsung is neither unique or the best anymore so...

Nexus6p stands strong in Android market . I hope Samsung won't compete to beat n6P with bloatware and bla bla. Hail nexus6p

After living with the LG G4 for a couple weeks, I'll be sticking with Samsung, if for no other reason that I FAR prefer the Home/capacative buttons that Samsung offers compared to the on screen buttons that all the other major makers use. Plus, I like Samsung's screens the best, & they are always at or near the top in camera, performance, etc. Custom ROMs take care of the bloat. Now, Samsung isn't perfect, & I am very disappointed by their removal of SD & replaceable battery, which is why I'm still hanging in there with my S4, which I had planned to replace with the S6. It looks like the SD is coming back, which will be probably be enough for me to go with the S7. If the S7 had replaceable battery, it would be a slam dunk for me. Despite the G4 having those features, it's size & button arrangement (including the power & volume) made it an overall less preferable unit to me than my aging S4.

I agree with the OP, my next device will be a Nexus one.

Not going to upgrade/downgrade from the note 4. But it will interesting to see if Samsung has learned something and if they will put the removable battery and a micro sd card back into their phones.
But yeah real buttons will always beat out in screen ones

So no one have an issue with this person stating even "low class" people have a Samsung?...Obviously not.
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If you can afford it buy Galaxy S7 or just buy some chinese Android phone.
But I definitely like to have microSD card back on Galaxy S7

You sound pretentious and terrible. Just because a company sells their product successfully does not make them worse. They're still using top of the line, listening to consumers by reinstating the microSD slot. You're not special because you have money to buy better products. If you wanna be so "different" go buy an iPhone. You have the same mindset as an apple fanboy.

Like most phones, upgrading every year isn't very appealing because there's only so much that can be improved. I wouldn't upgrade from a Galaxy S6. But I certainly will from my S5 Sport!

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Really, low class? Well you are the Messiah so I guess everyone is low class to you.

I agree with some of you, I don't seen the point of upgrading every year, there isn't a big enough difference between each years models. I don't mind iPhone once they are jailbroken, I have an iPhone 4 that has been through hell and back with me and still kicking. I have been through a kyocera slide I got stuck in boot loop and bricked a HTC desire. Now have an LG G3 that I love and haven't had any problems. If your going from a device that that is a couple models older and is going obsolete then upgrade, but most of us don't have the money laying around to to by a new phone every year.
Have they even set a release date for the Galaxy D7 yet?

By low class, you have to understand that i am not defining those who have samsung as lower class. its your choice to have it or not. but the thing is that wherever i go, everywhere! people have got either samsung or apple in their hands and to me it feels like its just too many. it just destroys its elegancy and its price tag. i don't know how to explain but I hope i cleared some misconceptions

Not usually one to post, but you're not helping yourself any with your explanation. You still come off as elitist, shallow, and rather petty to be honest.
Who cares how many people have a phone? Are you going to tell me an iPhone isn't nice because millions of people have one? Or that the Galaxy series is suddenly not one of the best phones, simply because more people have it?
I dunno if this is going to be breaking news to you, but with contract subsidies and pricing offers and various discounts, even the most expensive of smartphones are a relatively cheap luxury item. With the modern reliance on cellphones, and mobile data, of course having a good phone is going to be something most people will spend a few extra dollars on. Is it really a newsflash that people want the best? Or did you not consider that most people are flocking to the Galaxy series, and the iPhone lineup, because they have a longstanding legacy of being two of the best, powerhouse smartphones available.
Furthermore.. elegance? Really? They're phones, not watches. They're consumption devices that have increasingly more and more uses.. not just little gadgets people get, to show off how rich or awesome they are. Only the geekiest of the geeks have a nerdgasm about how much more elegant their phone is than the average person. The rest of us standard model geeks would rather just enjoy our phones as the tools that they are, and try to find the one that works best for us.

Well done, ThePheonixChameleon. I totally agree, although what do I know, I'm an inelegant, low-class owner of a Galaxy S4, no less.

There is no need to get a Samsung devuce, because there is OnePlus out there...
I was a great fan of Samsung devices, and I'm still are. But now I have two OnePlus devices and I'm very satisfied with them. So I won't get any other device for now and the near future. :beer:

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Well done, ThePheonixChameleon. I totally agree, although what do I know, I'm an inelegant, low-class owner of a Galaxy S4, no less.
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Ehh, I just picked up my fourth rooted Galaxy S3 off Swappa. Still clinging to that antique, cliche phone.. with it's plastic case and inelegant awesomeness that made it the only phone anyone wanted of it's generation.

I currently own a Galaxy S5 Sport. Great phone, but the first thing I did was flash CM12.1, waiting for CM13. Touchwiz is a piece of ****. Samsung phones are so much better than one would think if you get rid of the garbage stock ROM. I'm not just speaking aesthetically, the performance is atrocious. It's so smooth and never hangs up now, also doesn't force close when trying to do something intensive and the RAM management is much better!

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'm not just speaking aesthetically, the performance is atrocious. It's so smooth and never hangs up now, also doesn't force close when trying to do something intensive and the RAM management is much better!
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Totally agree. I also had a SGS5 before I exchanged it with the OnePlus Two. I tried a lot of different Rom's. The very best I flashed on it was AICP. I was very satisfied with that Rom. Maybe you will try it out. :thumbup:

Exodus?

Just wondering, now that the Note 8 has been unveiled and we know for sure it's specs etc, are you inclined to jump ship from the S8+?
For me the differences are so minor. I wouldn't use the pen for instance, 0.1 inches bigger, big wow, 2 cameras, big deal, £100 dearer, not doing it for me.
My eyes are set on the LG V30, what about you?
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After all the above, I'm actually writing this on a N8.
Blame the wife, her Z5 gave up the ghost and she loved the S8+ so much. What's a dutiful husband to do? Didn't make sense having 2 S8+'s, the rest is history.

Between what we already have on the new S series and all the Note 8 leaks we've been pretty aware of what we'll be doing after release for some time now. Maybe yesterday's reveal might have changed some minds of those on the fence but for the most part if you've been a Note user for a while you'll likely want to go back which is what I'll be doing eventually. Just not within the next month.
I prefer to wait at least a month just to monitor how the release has been going and see if there's any hardware issues. This caution on my part served me well last year when that whole Note 7 fiasco occurred. I was getting ready to jump on the new Note back then because my Note 5 was getting long in the tooth and I was dearly missing Micro SD support and the prospect of having a Note with a strong IP was just too tempting to pass up on. Luckily I held my ground after launch and realized what was going on with the batteries. I actually was going to pull the trigger right before the second recall happened. It wasn't meant to be. Hoping everything will be fine this time around with the Note 8 and I can finally, finally have both Micro SD and IP rating on my Note device. Finally.
This S8 Plus is sick but it's difficult to be without that S-Pen. If the Note series was only an S device with an S-Pen that would do it for me. The extra bump in specs that the Note series usually brings along with is just the cherry on top for me. I could take it or leave it but give me the S-Pen.

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Between what we already have on the new S series and all the Note 8 leaks we've been pretty aware of what we'll be doing after release for some time now. Maybe yesterday's reveal might have changed some minds of those on the fence but for the most part if you've been a Note user for a while you'll likely want to go back which is what I'll be doing eventually. Just not within the next month.
I prefer to wait at least a month just to monitor how the release has been going and see if there's any hardware issues. This caution on my part served me well last year when that whole Note 7 fiasco occurred. I was getting ready to jump on the new Note back then because my Note 5 was getting long in the tooth and I was dearly missing Micro SD support and the prospect of having a Note with a strong IP was just too tempting to pass up on. Luckily I held my ground after launch and realized what was going on with the batteries. I actually was going to pull the trigger right before the second recall happened. It wasn't meant to be. Hoping everything will be fine this time around with the Note 8 and I can finally, finally have both Micro SD and IP rating on my Note device. Finally.
This S8 Plus is sick but it's difficult to be without that S-Pen. If the Note series was only an S device with an S-Pen that would do it for me. The extra bump in specs that the Note series usually brings along with is just the cherry on top for me. I could take it or leave it but give me the S-Pen.
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I get you, but bar some minor tweaking the Note 8 is just an S8+ with a £100 pencil stuck to the side, lol.

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I get you, but bar some minor tweaking the Note 8 is just an S8+ with a pencil stuck to the side, lol.
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Which is exactly why I want it. That pencil is a game-changer for me, lol!

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Which is exactly why I want it. That pencil is a game-changer for me, lol!
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Seriously, I'm just joking. I realise that for some folks productivity requirements, this is an essential piece of kit. Just that for me it's not an 'enterprise' or productivity tool, so I'd never use it. I just like messing with phones and the differences here would probably only satisfy my fix for a day or so.

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Seriously, I'm just joking. I realise that for some folks productivity requirements, this is an essential piece of kit. Just that for me it's not an 'enterprise' or productivity tool, so I'd never use it. I just like messing with phones and the differences here would probably only satisfy my fix for a day or so.
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I've actually never even used any of my Note devices as an enterprise or productivity tool like their ads would suggest. I just prefer to enjoy interacting with my phone's display using that S-Pen. The built-in digitizer performs much, much, much better than any third party stylus can and the added tools built into the S-Pen makes things that much more easier to do various stuff.

Had the Note 7 and realized the pencil is just useless for me. Will stick to my S8+ and see what the Pixel XL 2 will bring.

Note 8 looks awesome its a beefed up version of the S8+ I’m deffo jumping ship i haven’t even used my S8+ it still got the factory stickers on mine i should have waited but with the NOTE 7 Fiasco i thought SAMSUNG wouldn’t release a new note till next year. but 6 gig ram and dual camera and dual sim roll on 24 September.

I'm definitely not jumping ship for one. I had a note 4 and I had so many performance & battery issues it wasn't funny. Plus the upgrades between the s8+ and note are so minute, the ram and the spen were the only thing holding me back. I just can't justify paying an extra few hundred dollars for it. I do miss my spen though...

For me, yes probably in a couple of months. I think my S8+ looks better and most lightly is better in hand as well but the S pen is what will make the difference for me.

Looks good, but not a fan of tbe spen and the minor changes. Dual cams and 6gb of ram is not worth the extra money. How much faster is 6gb of ram when multitasking?

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Looks good, but not a fan of tbe spen and the minor changes. Dual cams and 6gb of ram is not worth the extra money. How much faster is 6gb of ram when multitasking?
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Almost imperceptible.... from what I read it will be most useful to post process photos because of the dual camera.
I'm bypass the note 8.
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