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Waterproof Phone with changeable Battery?

Hi. Using my Motorola Defy for 4 years now, but its just slow, often rebooting, several apps aren't working correct on it... So searching for a new one with this functions:
Waterproof
Changable Battery
4 - 4.5 inch Display, not bigger
Android
Root and custom roms available
I guess I can find this in the Sony Xpera ZR but as its not available in germany I have to bought it from abroad which wo would be ~280€ ~ $380. Thats a lot for a one year old phone, compared with the price I paid for the Defy. Are there any other phones which have all the things I need?

Nobody can help me with this?

v0ujiemq said:
Nobody can help me with this?
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I dont believe your going to find a wateproof phone. There are water resistant phones, but water proof cases may be another option. Pretty much the high end phones like the s5, s4, m8, and many others have that option. Check them out.

I think xperia v is the one you looking for
here's the specs and regards of water proof and removable battery I'm pretty sure about the feature
http://m.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_v-4958.php
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samsung galaxy s5 is waterproof and have an changeable battery

Galaxy S5 is to big, I dont want such a big phone. The Xperia V is more what Im looking for. CPU is slow, that a pitty but at least it will be a lot faster than my Defy. Will try that phone :good:

try Lenovo S750

[Q] Xperia Z3 or HTC one M8 (need opinion)

hi, as the title says, im currently looking for a new phone, but im still confused, which one is better, the sony Xperia Z3 or the HTC one M8. Maybe you guys can give your opinions here and help me decide which one is better
thanks

azirr said:
hi, as the title says, im currently looking for a new phone, but im still confused, which one is better, the sony Xperia Z3 or the HTC one M8. Maybe you guys can give your opinions here and help me decide which one is better
thanks
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Before this gets locked, i'd say, I preferred my M8. Speakers, build quality, camera and screen. Z3 is waterproof though, and a nice shape.

azirr said:
hi, as the title says, im currently looking for a new phone, but im still confused, which one is better, the sony Xperia Z3 or the HTC one M8. Maybe you guys can give your opinions here and help me decide which one is better
thanks
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I've used the m8 for about 3 months and the Z3 for maybe 3 weeks now and while they are close I'd have to say the Z3 is the better phone in many areas. The camera is no contest, the phone is just as snappy and the UI is great. The m8 has better speakers but the Z3 for most purposes is just as good. The battery life is much better on the Z3 and in my opinion the screen is a lot nicer and that extra real estate though not that much on paper is certainly noticeable. I love the camera shutter button and don't miss the IR from the m8 since I have no problem reaching for the remote control one foot away from me. The sound is louder through headphones on the m8 which is my only gripe really. Both feel very premium, I wouldn't rate one over the other, they're just two different types of premium (metal vs glass). The glass feels great, though the m8 is more comfortable to hold, but when the phones are past a certain threshold for size I think comfort in hand is all relatively the same anyways, aka I have no problems handling this phone and didn't think the m8 was significantly better other than mild comfort from the curve. That's about it, if I had to recommend to any friends I would hands down tell them they're getting better bang for the buck with the Z3 especially after the ps4 screen share update arrives. If you have any other comparison questions just ask away!

Jonathan-H said:
Before this gets locked, i'd say, I preferred my M8. Speakers, build quality, camera and screen. Z3 is waterproof though, and a nice shape.
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oh sorry, i just found out the device suggestion thread. thanks for your suggestion btw!

ladelfm said:
I've used the m8 for about 3 months and the Z3 for maybe 3 weeks now and while they are close I'd have to say the Z3 is the better phone in many areas. The camera is no contest, the phone is just as snappy and the UI is great. The m8 has better speakers but the Z3 for most purposes is just as good. The battery life is much better on the Z3 and in my opinion the screen is a lot nicer and that extra real estate though not that much on paper is certainly noticeable. I love the camera shutter button and don't miss the IR from the m8 since I have no problem reaching for the remote control one foot away from me. The sound is louder through headphones on the m8 which is my only gripe really. Both feel very premium, I wouldn't rate one over the other, they're just two different types of premium (metal vs glass). The glass feels great, though the m8 is more comfortable to hold, but when the phones are past a certain threshold for size I think comfort in hand is all relatively the same anyways, aka I have no problems handling this phone and didn't think the m8 was significantly better other than mild comfort from the curve. That's about it, if I had to recommend to any friends I would hands down tell them they're getting better bang for the buck with the Z3 especially after the ps4 screen share update arrives. If you have any other comparison questions just ask away!
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thank you for your very informative suggestion, im more leaning to z3 now after reading your sugestion! do you know what earphone around below 50$ that suits with the z3? since the bundled earphone is just sucks from what i heard.

While I don't own a m8 my cousin does but I do own a Z3 for a week now and apart from the louder/bassier stereo speakers (Z3 is still good enough) and the louder audio in headphones on the m8 (again Z3 is still good enough especially when using DSEE HX and the noise cancelling headphones and also has better Equalizer presets).
The Z3 is the better phone imo especially for camera/video, battery life, screen, look/feel/design is subjective but I much prefer the Z3 in this department and it is waterproof too and that has come handy in the last week alone.

I'd agree on getting the Z3 (although this is the Sony thread). Both are well built and have quality screens, but I prefer the larger battery and camera over the M8's. Although the speakers could be better, I believe there was a mod called DSEE HX that amplifies the speakers on the Z3. Overall, it relies on what your needs are. They both look good so you wouldn't lose either way. As this is based on opinions, I'd go for the Z3 because it is the newer model and its design is so sleek. Sense is pretty, but I'm all about Sony's stock look and feel. If those don't really matter to you, I guess you would decide whether or not you take more pictures or listen to more music.

RCJ89 said:
While I don't own a m8 my cousin does but I do own a Z3 for a week now and apart from the louder/bassier stereo speakers (Z3 is still good enough) and the louder audio in headphones on the m8 (again Z3 is still good enough especially when using DSEE HX and the noise cancelling headphones and also has better Equalizer presets).
The Z3 is the better phone imo especially for camera/video, battery life, screen, look/feel/design is subjective but I much prefer the Z3 in this department and it is waterproof too and that has come handy in the last week alone.
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Richie5767 said:
I'd agree on getting the Z3 (although this is the Sony thread). Both are well built and have quality screens, but I prefer the larger battery and camera over the M8's. Although the speakers could be better, I believe there was a mod called DSEE HX that amplifies the speakers on the Z3. Overall, it relies on what your needs are. They both look good so you wouldn't lose either way. As this is based on opinions, I'd go for the Z3 because it is the newer model and its design is so sleek. Sense is pretty, but I'm all about Sony's stock look and feel. If those don't really matter to you, I guess you would decide whether or not you take more pictures or listen to more music.
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thanks for your opinion guys! i think i have made up my decision now

What did you decide? I'm trying to decide if the z3 camera and battery life are enough of an improvement from my m8 to switch. I generally love the m8, but I HATE the camera. All my pictures are washed out with tons of glare from any light source.
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I just trade up my Htc m8 for the sony Z3 by using my T-mobile jump program.. I am really luving this phone man ?.I love how you really have alot of options..my biggest worry is dropping the phone and breaking the glass front or back...i really do not like covers on my phone..i think it take the beauty out of them..beside i pay
the extra $10 a month issuance ?
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This thread had helped me make my decision to grab a Z3 today. I was on the fence in using Jump! to switch from my M8. I'll be going to T-Mo during lunch. Thanks to everyone for the input here.

I had an m8, I switched it for the z3 and I did everything I could to get it back again. Android development for z3 hasn't even begin, speaker quality is bad, the ui feels outdated and less responsive, camera besides x reality treatment in viewing is slow and inconsistent, the price is too high. Get an m8 which is superior in almost every aspect (m8's camera is mediocre too) or a z2 which is much cheaper and offers almost the same.

morfini said:
I had an m8, I switched it for the z3 and I did everything I could to get it back again. Android development for z3 hasn't even begin, speaker quality is bad, the ui feels outdated and less responsive, camera besides x reality treatment in viewing is slow and inconsistent, the price is too high. Get an m8 which is superior in almost every aspect (m8's camera is mediocre too) or a z2 which is much cheaper and offers almost the same.
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You don't think the camera is much better? It seems like it wouldn't take much to beat the m8 there.
I wish I could try it out and get my m8 back if I didn't like it. Tmobile doesn't allow that though.
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Had M8 and now have Z3. Both are great phones. Camera isn't that bad on the M8. Especially if you just use it for social media.
Things I miss on the M8 are the IR Blaster and Blinkfeed.
Things I don't miss on the M8 are the power button on the top of the phone and the inability to swipe or double tap screen to unlock while sitting on a flat surface. You have to move the phone or it has to be in your hand on the M8. Z3 does not require that. Also, the curved back makes it rock if you wanna use the phone on a hard surface.
They both feel very comfortably to hold. Although the M8 was a bit slippery when it was brand new. Both have great speakers, and screen. Build quality is equal to me but the Z3 is a bit lighter so the M8 has little more of a solid feel in your hand.
Oh, and one of the most important thing. The battery life is a lot better on the Z3. After the first charge, I got over 6.5 hours of screen time. I expect it to get better after a few more charges. Most I could get out of the M8 was barely 5 hours.

There are tips in m8' s topic which make its camera decent even for printing photos.. It can even get better than z3's in some aspects in my opininion. Z3 has indeed better battery life, and x reality engine can make colours pop out from the screen, if you like such an effect. That's it for me, everything else is better on m8. And keep in mind that z2 is now much cheaper.

Erckul said:
This thread had helped me make my decision to grab a Z3 today. I was on the fence in using Jump! to switch from my M8. I'll be going to T-Mo during lunch. Thanks to everyone for the input here.
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If you go to buy, ask to test the device first, they will open the packaging for it.
Look for the following:
-Frame being bent outward or toward LCD <- Mine had that
-Light bleed between frame and LCD <- Mine had that
-Pink spots in camera <- Mine had that (barely noticeable but diffuse)
-Pressure test to ensure, water tightness
-Test speakers as some are getting major stereo mismatch in loudness.
I unfortunately, could not test, and since I preordered, I cannot exchange in store had to mail mine back.

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azirr said:
hi, as the title says, im currently looking for a new phone, but im still confused, which one is better, the sony Xperia Z3 or the HTC one M8. Maybe you guys can give your opinions here and help me decide which one is better
thanks
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when you ask about Z3 in z3 forum it means more will vote for z3
1 important thing i can say about Xperia devices is durability
beside this there is more ram and awesome camera and better design
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definitely z3 for me. the last time i had a htc one m7, it died on me after just barely after a year. i was also having a lot of software issues with it. purple tint, battery depleting fast and auto shut down. that was my last htc phone.
z3 got my attention with the battery life.

thanks for all of your opinions guys!! helped me alot. im going for the z3 but its not available yet in my country, so i have to wait for a couple more weeks to have it

I have both a Z3 D6603 and a HTC M8 Developer Edition. I really like the UI on the Sony a lot. Its a tough choice. The Copper color Z3 is awesome and a nice change from the gold devices by all the rest.
I do like the extra battery, more ram, and x-reality on the Z3, however; I can convert my m8 to a GPE and get Android L much quicker than we will get it on the Z3. By the time the Z3 gets Android L, then HTC will launch it as well (both promise within 90 days of release) and I can throw that on my m8.
I am more concerned with the lack of development on the Z3 and Sony's DRM Bootloader crap. I know the device was just released but so has a boat load of other devices and which ones with ultimately get the Dev Love ?

[Q] Reasons to not to buy this phone?

Hi guys!
I know this is great phone but im sure there must be some weakness, could you guys tell me why not to buy this phone?

I'm currently weighing it up, to me the device is ideal but my only worry is the cracking glass back. That's a concern I have at the moment. Also it's niggling that a new z4 is just around the corner or so we are told.
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No IR blaster
Glass front & back (more fragile)
No removable battery
Loss of functions if you root
It's a bit chunky
Lack of custom rom support
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To me the device is perfect !
The only weakness is the glass back. I Dropped it today and got a little crack on the back. Nothing serious though, it is just a small crack that is hardly visible.
An other feature that I don't like but I believe some will consider it as an advantage is that when you open the last picture you took from the camera app and swipe left and right it will show all the pictures on your album even the pictures you didn't took with the camera (like internet download for example).

Thanks! the info, if u guys could recommend a phone instead Z3 what would it be?
[This is just curious im gonna buy this phone since i cant buy htc for now i dont want samsung either i could chose g3 but ik dat z3 is way better]

Maybe a LG G3 or Iphone 6

The Z3 is a well rounded phone and does well in all aspects, only let down by the "auto" mode of the camera. If you can live with that minor flaw definately buy it, its what the M8 should have been.
The alternatives that I would pick are the:
M8 (Cleaner audio output via jack and speakers, and free one time glass replacement if it breaks)
LG G2/G3 I personally like my G2 better than the G3, the G3 takes great pics and has the best audio scores audio scores (hardware testing of the jack input) but let down by lower contrast, power hungry QHD screen when compared to the G2.
I would recommend the GS5/Note4 but I just hate TouchWiz too much.
My mom has an iPhone 6, its good but overrated, battery life definitely sucks compared to the Z3, and is too locked down to iTunes for my taste.
M8 or G2/G3.

G3 would be my choice. Cant get it, as I have company phone and therefore didn't get the choice. It was either Z3 or S5
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Well first and foremost you cant carry the phone nude why is that well because it sometimes moves on its own when I keep it on my computer table almost like magic and I had to replace the back glass because of a crack that I have no idea how it sustained the dam crack. There is a purplish spot in my camera pictures I have cleaned and cleaned the lens without any progress sony people say its a software issue and adjusted my camera settings but its still not gone. The front glass has a small scratch on it already I am still waiting for the screen guard but getting a scratch so early is just sad seems this glass is not all that tough. Compared to my M8 it is an upgrade but not by much the speakers of my M8 are still better (Bass), I had wrongly thought that the Z3 was louder based on the vibrations that I could feel compared to the M8.
That is about it all in all its a camera upgrade from the M8 not a thing more or less specially considering the Asian M8 had the 2.5Ghz 801.
Note: I also wanted to add low light shot performance of Z3 is just a bit shy of the M8, yes the higher ISO does add more noise but its a great trade off "Pixcilation vs Noise"

I'd go M8 or S5 if you don't mind Samsung skin.

One Plus One owner - Considering the Z3

Hi guys,
I am in much need of feedback...
Currently, I have the OnePlus One, and am liking it very much.
The endless customizations options and very good build quality especially.
However, I would like a change, and the smaller size of the Z3 is what I am after.
Anyone here came from OnePlus ??
Thanks in advance.
D.

I came from the OnePlus only because mine had gremlins :'( i prefer the Z3 though, better camera + camera modes, better battery life, only downside is no developers for it + no root with LB

I don't have an OnePlus One but I have compared my Z3 to a couple of my friend's. Let me tell you that it feels completely different. The Z3 fits in the hand a lot nicer than the OnePlus One. Also, there is no comparison between the aesthetics. If you are looking for a smaller size and prefer the stock feel of Sony's UI, then I would consider this phone. The battery is amazing on the Z3, but I've heard the same about the OnePlus One from my friends and through some reviews.
A couple disadvantages would be that the phone cannot be rooted and there aren't many developers because of this (without losing bootloader). Some say that their phone is not waterproof, but I have had no issues so that may be something you want to get checked out. There is also the glass back which is very slippery. Most of my drops have been through my phone sliding off tables if they are slanted just because of how smooth the glass back is. I'd definitely recommend a case or tempered glass for your phone if you do purchase.
What you get in the overall package is design, a beautiful screen, nicer camera, and slightly better battery (depends on usage). Although it is pricey, the phone is solid and worth it imo. I have dropped mine on four occasions with tempered glass on both sides and my phone did not dent or shatter (only my tempered glass did).
If there is no reason for you to switch, I would just keep the OnePlus One because phones are expensive X_X. Otherwise, there are other alternatives to a Z3 if you just want a smaller phone. For other options, I would recommend the Nexus 5 or HTC One M8. Only reason to go for a Z3 is if you prefer its design over the competitors. I do get a lot of comments about my phone's beauty and similarity to an iphone.:laugh:
I know this is long, but I hope it helps. Best of luck in your search!

I came from a OnePlus. But i kept it judt in case.
Overall tge Z3 is a great device. But there are a few things that you may want to consider when getting it, as i have learnt now.
1. No Root (Without comprimise) - This is number one for me. Coming from a line of nexus devices i was so suprised to see how difficult it would be to get this on the Z3 without comprimise. I unfortunately didnt do my research before hand.
2. Low dev support - Well compared to the One Plus and nexus 5 anyway which also suprised me. I thought considering the amount of support Sony gives the community this might be different, but alas.
3. Internal Memory - This is my biggest one. I personally thought i could get away with just 16gb and for the most part i am. But the difference is i have to consider it alot more than i did with the one plus one. I have a 64gb OnePlus and also a 64gb memory card in my Xperia which stores all of my music, but things like apps and such do not install on the memory card. So you just have to watch your internal memory more carefully.
4. The phone is slippery as hell - My advice would be to get a thin case and a tempered glass screen protector because this phone is very slippery. On flat surfaces it's a scare, especially when listening to music with a bit of bass, it has a mind of it's own.
But other than the three issues i have highlighted, as has been said before the phone is awesome. Screen, battery life, camera all top the OnePlus in My opinion. You won't be loosing out. But just consider the above and more to help yourself make an informative decision.
Hope this is helpful.

ryanraven said:
I came from the OnePlus only because mine had gremlins :'( i prefer the Z3 though, better camera + camera modes, better battery life, only downside is no developers for it + no root with LB
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Agreed! In my opinion the Z3 is way better than the OPO but for sw mood and root. I love AOSP and CM, but Sony customisation is very very stable and consistent.
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ryanraven said:
I came from the OnePlus only because mine had gremlins :'( i prefer the Z3 though, better camera + camera modes, better battery life, only downside is no developers for it + no root with LB
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Yeah, the no developers bit is what kills me, im really considering going back to the note with the jump I have available. The sound is amazing and the camera looks real good but its hard to go back to stock after being spoiled by xposed

Getting Z3 or go for the older Z2 is the question?

Thinking about getting my hands on either the Z3 or the older, bigger brother Z2..
Any suggetions?

Go for Z3.

You would get much better battery life with the Z3

Go for the Z3, better screen and battery life.

Destroyedbeauty said:
Thinking about getting my hands on either the Z3 or the older, bigger brother Z2..
Any suggetions?
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i'd definitely recommend Z3 over Z2. i had Z1 and i was planning to get Z2 after selling it, then i got Z3 black and its just WOW IN ALL:good:

Nidhal AKA the king said:
i'd definitely recommend Z3 over Z2. i had Z1 and i was planning to get Z2 after selling it, then i got Z3 black and its just WOW IN ALL:good:
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How is the overall feeling and build quality for you guys on the Z3?
@all
I did lay an order request on a white Z3 yesterday. Hopefully it arrives sometime next week!

I think the Z3 recommendations are somewhat gratuitous, in that a newer model will always be a step forward with longer software support. I'm now going to be a complete hypocrite and tell you to buy the Z3, simply because it's brilliant (moreso as root access is available for those with locked bootloaders). Build quality is beautiful to look at, although waterproofing could be more consistent, at least by reference to the forums, and thermal cracks are an issue for some. Anyway, if you can afford it by the handset, some quality tempered glass (front and back) and a reasonable case. I have the copper version, and it's stunning.....

deepershades said:
I think the Z3 recommendations are somewhat gratuitous, in that a newer model will always be a step forward with longer software support. I'm now going to be a complete hypocrite and tell you to buy the Z3, simply because it's brilliant (moreso as root access is available for those with locked bootloaders). Build quality is beautiful to look at, although waterproofing could be more consistent, at least by reference to the forums, and thermal cracks are an issue for some. Anyway, if you can afford it by the handset, some quality tempered glass (front and back) and a reasonable case. I have the copper version, and it's stunning.....
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Thanks for the input!
I did order the Z3 yesterday as stated - the white version, white phones and blacks tablets FTW(!!!) - and I am really prepared for a killer device specs wise

Enjoy it, sure you won't regret it.

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Enjoy it, sure you won't regret it.
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Anyone of you guys that wants to see a specific and dedicated ROM / kernel settings, set-up & tuning thread in the Z3 general section, once I get my hands on my new beast? Check my similar topic in the Z1 General section if it does interest you, guys? =)

Or you could wait for z4 ?

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Or you could wait for z4 ?
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I will buy the Z4 a few months after release, if the price tag is good enough and worth it. And hey.. If it get kickass development support, both original Android dev and regular one..

Considering it's already Feb you are probably better of waiting for the Z4 as it's a much bigger upgrade than the previous two models.

one of the biggest draws of the Z3 is the battery life, and it's unclear whether the enhanced spec of the Z4 will improve on this or not - given the release date may well be later rather than sooner, we could be looking towards the autumn for a rooted Z4 with a locked bootloader (it took nearly four months to crack the Z3 in this aspect).....

I dont get it,how is Battery life on z3 any way better than that in z2?? I mean,z2 has 3200mah battery while z3 has 3100mah

The Z3 screen is more power efficient, though it can reach a max of 800+ nits, also they seemed to have made some other tweaks, that is why the Z3 has better battery life.

See you guys tomorrow, I hope - because I will get my Z3 then!

Destroyedbeauty said:
See you guys tomorrow, I hope - because I will get my Z3 then!
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first impressions?

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first impressions?
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I am impressed. And this is even on stock and untouched ROM / kernel. I am going to unlock the bootloader today and install a pre-rooted ZIP based on latest firmware and play around with some FauxClock settings / init.d scripts and see how far I can push this device battery & performance wise!
What is your impressions of the Z3?

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I am impressed. And this is even on stock and untouched ROM / kernel. I am going to unlock the bootloader today and install a pre-rooted ZIP based on latest firmware and play around with some FauxClock settings / init.d scripts and see how far I can push this device battery & performance wise!
What is your impressions of the Z3?
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Great to hear that, I haven't upgraded from the z2 as the differences are minimal but yeah I love the design and I don't need to flash another room as the sony UI with nova launcher and root is perfect for me [emoji4]