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Hi I have an 8 gig moto g UK version on KitKat 4.42 I have noticed some days my battery life will be superb like today and others not as good I will post screenshots today's battery life is the second charge after running it down to 0%..
Battery life from the other day
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2614346&stc=1&d=1394014951
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2614347&stc=1&d=1394014951
Today's battery life so far
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2614348&stc=1&d=1394014951
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2614349&stc=1&d=1394014951
thanks.
1: Your cell coverage seems to be kind of bad sometimes, it cna cause battery drain
2: Your phone is awake most of the time even with screen off, you should check your wakelocks
3: There is a thread about a mysterious battery drain, which unfortunately I got as well http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50467389
miklosbard said:
1: Your cell coverage seems to be kind of bad sometimes, it cna cause battery drain
2: Your phone is awake most of the time even with screen off, you should check your wakelocks
3: There is a thread about a mysterious battery drain, which unfortunately I got as well http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50467389
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Hi thanks for the reply yeah my network is bad in this area never more than 2 bars of signal, I was running wakelock detector on 4.3 but obviously Google stopped the user from being able to read process data. I do have gsam battery monitor installed I will see if that turns anything up. I hope Motorola fixes the battery drain issue soon thanks for your help.
tje1991 said:
Hi thanks for the reply yeah my network is bad in this area never more than 2 bars of signal, I was running wakelock detector on 4.3 but obviously Google stopped the user from being able to read process data. I do have gsam battery monitor installed I will see if that turns anything up. I hope Motorola fixes the battery drain issue soon thanks for your help.
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Notice how your battery drain is bad after GPS is used. See the link posted above by the other poster. My posts in that thread refer to GPS as being the culprit. It seems it may be the same in your case.
When you notice the bad battery drain try a reboot. It should fix it until GPS is next used. BTW I have noticed GPS doesn't always cause the drain to start, but it does quite often.
Are you on non-gpe device or gpe.
scott_doyland said:
Notice how your battery drain is bad after GPS is used. See the link posted above by the other poster. My posts in that thread refer to GPS as being the culprit. It seems it may be the same in your case.
When you notice the bad battery drain try a reboot. It should fix it until GPS is next used. BTW I have noticed GPS doesn't always cause the drain to start, but it does quite often.
Are you on non-gpe device or gpe.
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Hi Scott thanks for the info I didn't notice that I will fully charge tonight and then use the GPS for a little while and then stop using it to see if that causes the drain by the way my phones a standard g non gpe.
A quick update this is today's total battery life with some GPS use and Bluetooth on from 5pm connects to my car stereo.
tje1991 said:
A quick update this is today's total battery life with some GPS use and Bluetooth on from 5pm connects to my car stereo.
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actually with that signal level I think this is the normal drain, you got quite some screen time as well.
Sent from my phone
miklosbard said:
actually with that signal level I think this is the normal drain, you got quite some screen time as well.
Sent from my phone
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Ah thanks I would have got more but the phone powered down at 10% seconds after i'd posted that, calibration issue I'm guessing.
scott_doyland said:
Notice how your battery drain is bad after GPS is used. See the link posted above by the other poster. My posts in that thread refer to GPS as being the culprit. It seems it may be the same in your case.
When you notice the bad battery drain try a reboot. It should fix it until GPS is next used. BTW I have noticed GPS doesn't always cause the drain to start, but it does quite often.
Are you on non-gpe device or gpe.
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Did a bit of a GPS test this morning Scott was used for 15 mins then maps was turned off along with data so I had no other battery drain.
tje1991 said:
Did a bit of a GPS test this morning Scott was used for 15 mins then maps was turned off along with data so I had no other battery drain.
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My personal experience is that I only get the drain when I have used GPS but I do not always get it when I have used GPS. Basically to me it seems like some intermittent GPS issue that causes the drain. I had it yesterday and rebooted. But today I have tested gps and all fine again - no drain.
Also have noticed after the latest KitKat update (the tiny 9MB update) that at times GPS can't get a lock.
Hi guys! I've created this as a thread to discuss the so far mysterious and specific to 5.0 battery issues many seem to have.
Here you can discuss it, test theories and try to track down causes.
I made this to keep the clutter out of the Battery Life Help Thread sticky. As this is muddying the waters there.
Same things apply... Screen shots are helpful, specifically app wakelock screens. (need root for that though)
Also, Chances are there will eventually be an update to fix this from Google. So when that happens, or the issues are solved by members, then this thread will be closed and info added to the Battery Life Help Thread.
Thanks!
I won't be active very much in this thread BTW. I'm very busy here on XDA. I've created it for community discussion. ?
By all means... If you are rooted, and have Gsam and Gsam root companion installed.... You can post your app wakelock screen shots here......
[Battery Life Help] Troubleshoot battery issues here!
Here we go. There's some proof about Wifi issue for ones who don't or want to believe and became angry to talking about this issue. As you can see No deep sleep wakelocks without Wifi. As clear as it should be.
And yes, everything is off. GNow, location, G+; any google services disabled. Also all notification or syncing options of 3rd party apps are closed. And it's a smartphone by the way.
kamajikaciya said:
Here we go. There's some proof about Wifi issue for ones who don't or want to believe and became angry to talking about this issue. As you can see No deep sleep wakelocks without Wifi. As clear as it should be.
And yes, everything is off. GNow, location, G+; any google services disabled. Also all notification or syncing options of 3rd party apps are closed. And it's a smartphone by the way.
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It would be a good idea to change your language to english before you take a screen shot. Many people that have no idea what the text in your screen shot means. Just an idea
SYRE123 said:
It would be a good idea to change your language to english before you take a screen shot. Many people that have no idea what the text in your screen shot means. Just an idea
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I don't think so. I saw too many french, spanish, german, portuegese screenshots and if you know the ordering you may tell which is which.
kamajikaciya said:
I don't think so. I saw too many french, spanish, german, portuegese screenshots and if you know the ordering you may tell which is which.
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It's up to you ofc. I'm still on KitKat and don't know by default which is which, therefor my question. Just think you'll be able to get more help when Everyone can understand your screenshots, but that's me
SYRE123 said:
It's up to you ofc. I'm still on KitKat and don't know by default which is which, therefor my question. Just think you'll be able to get more help when Everyone can understand your screenshots, but that's me
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Thanks but I'm not sure that I'll get some help though. Turkish or english, this issue will take much battery in these days.
For what it's worth, people who need to theorise / suggest / confirm 'issues' must do so LOGICALLY, and preferably with numbers and specific setup.
- The laws of physics apply in all cases, regardless of ROM / kernel. Work out WHAT is using your battery instead of just complaining of drain. This helps no one....similarly only quoting SOT is USELESS. It is how you use your device.....
- Any initial 'testing' needs to be done first on full stock factory images, with no additional apps installed. If there really is a WiFi bug....test standby drain with WiFi on / off over a long period of time. Only then can you actually compare logically. Any difference in your actual day-to-day setup can then be narrowed down to an app issue, with in 99% of cases is the real cause.
Well i narrowed it down tot google now. I did a clean install. I did my setup as i usually do. But first without google now. Because i don't use it. My SOT was then about 4 hrs. Then i was thinking. Hmmz lollipop is beter then KitKat. And maybe its fun tot use google now. So i setup google now. My SOT drops instantly to 2 hrs SOT. So i disabled google now. But my SOT stays at 2 hrs. I did again a clean install. Without touching google now and my SOT is beter then ever. 5 hrs. And i came tot understand that if you don't setup google now. The SOT became normal but if you setup google now SOT drops. And i think there a program from google now that keeps beeing active. Even with shutting google now off. Or google now keeps active even while you shut if off
Anyone know of an app that can control individual apps permissions, similar to the xposed module app settings? Fighting privacy/battery issues.
App ops? Can be found in the store
I have no 3rd party apps installed and also tested in safe mode. If wifi is on the battery drains with wakelocks. If wifi is off the battery drain goes away and wakelocks stop. That's not a theory or something. I'm testing this issue till I bought my Nexus 5. I'm lucky because I bought my Nexus 5 1 week ago and I flashed Lollipop images clearly. Also I relfashed 2 times more . There's a wifi issue in this version in Nexus 5 and it must be fixed immediately. That's the result. No need physics laws or something. There's to many person lives it and cannot use their smartphone properly. If I must close the wifi manually to save battery life and block wakelocks why I'm calling that thing a "smartphone"? By the way it's not the phone's fault. The OS is faulty for Nexus 5. The worst part is the fact that Google said this issue has been fixed. But it's not true. At least for most users. We saw some users doesn't have this issue but more of them has been rooted their phone or flashed custom ROMs and kernels etc... Personally I don't want to root my phone or use a custom ROM and kernel. I think it's my right as a Google Nexus 5 and Android final consumer. And also it's my right to sound off this issue. I cannot understand why some people are huffing to users like me?
kamajikaciya said:
I have no 3rd party apps installed and also tested in safe mode. If wifi is on the battery drains with wakelocks. If wifi is off the battery drain goes away and wakelocks stop. That's not a theory or something. I'm testing this issue till I bought my Nexus 5. I'm lucky because I bought my Nexus 5 1 week ago and I flashed Lollipop images clearly. Also I relfashed 2 times more . There's a wifi issue in this version in Nexus 5 and it must be fixed immediately. That's the result. No need physics laws or something. There's to many person lives it and cannot use their smartphone properly. If I must close the wifi manually to save battery life and block wakelocks why I'm calling that thing a "smartphone"? By the way it's not the phone's fault. The OS is faulty for Nexus 5. The worst part is the fact that Google said this issue has been fixed. But it's not true. At least for most users. We saw some users doesn't have this issue but more of them has been rooted their phone or flashed custom ROMs and kernels etc... Personally I don't want to root my phone or use a custom ROM and kernel. I think it's my right as a Google Nexus 5 and Android final consumer. And also it's my right to sound off this issue. I cannot understand why some people are huffing to users like me?
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Apologies my post wasn't actually directed at you, more at those who post without any detail and just conclude that it must be drain, I've seen many...
You have tested logically[emoji106], and you're absolutely right that full stock factory image should work without issue and without the need for root to fix anything.
Can you confirm also that the same drain happens on any Wi-Fi network? It shouldn't be a solution but with investigating. Can you determine which built in app is keeping your device awake?
eddiehk6 said:
Apologies my post wasn't actually directed at you, more at those who post without any detail and just conclude that it must be drain, I've seen many...
You have tested logically[emoji106], and you're absolutely right that full stock factory image should work without issue and without the need for root to fix anything.
Can you confirm also that the same drain happens on any Wi-Fi network? It shouldn't be a solution but with investigating. Can you determine which built in app is keeping your device awake?
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No need for apologies or something. We're all here to solve some issues and make things better.
By the way my wifi issue happens if the wifi is on. There's no need to be connected to any network. If the wifi is on there's massive wakelocks in sleep mode and battery drains quickly. I tried anything but root or customizing ROM or kernel. Even I flashed 4.4.2 radio image with 5.0 stock ROM. I'M using it that way now. Same results.
And my tests are not only logical but I also have some quantitative clues. When I open the wifi I can see the wakelocks in stock battery graphic when the screen is off. If ı close the wifi wakelocks decrease and incomprehensible battery drains stops.
I agree. I'm getting an extra hour SOT without WiFi.
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SOT is not a main parameter. Especially in this issue.
For this wifi battery drain issue our main parameter is wakelock intensity when wifi is on and screen is off (standby) therefore battery drain in deep sleep mode. So you must check your off screen battery drain.
Any idea why Google play services is keeping my phone awake almost continuously? My location is set to battery saver. I've left it exactly the way it was on KK, Play services used to be around 2% on KK. Now on L, it's always in the top of the charts at ~20%. It says that mobile radio is continuously on. Does it have anything to do with the radio version?
Location History: On
Location Tracking: On
Gmail sync: on
Contact sync: On
Everything else is always off.
kamajikaciya said:
SOT is not a main parameter. Especially in this issue.
For this wifi battery drain issue our main parameter is wakelock intensity when wifi is on and screen is off (standby) therefore battery drain in deep sleep mode. So you must check your off screen battery drain.
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Oh I see. Well I think Wi-Fi is just more of a drain overall. I got more SOT yesterday and idle time it seemed like.
blueren said:
Any idea why Google play services is keeping my phone awake almost continuously? My location is set to battery saver. I've left it exactly the way it was on KK, Play services used to be around 2% on KK. Now on L, it's always in the top of the charts at ~20%. It says that mobile radio is continuously on. Does it have anything to do with the radio version?
Location History: On
Location Tracking: On
Gmail sync: on
Contact sync: On
Everything else is always off.
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Tracking and history have always been drains. Maybe not as bad as on 5.0...but still.
Try with those off to compare. ?
Darth said:
Tracking and history have always been drains. Maybe not as bad as on 5.0...but still.
Try with those off to compare. ?
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That is true, but KK never had that big of a drain solely based on location and tracking.
Hello everyone!
I own a LG G3 D855 and from the moment I bought it, I've noticed problems regarding battery life. After some resets, the store changed my battery. Despite this, it remained more or less the same. I usually never pass 3 hours of screen-on-time (no gaming!) with a full charge. After that, I considered it was due to the 2K display and reports around the internet talk about 4 hours with this phone, so I became thinking it was quite normal to have this battery life (asking your opinion, guys). Notice I usually have wifi on; 3g, nfc and gps turned off.
However there's a second problem. Sometimes, at random days, like it happen today, I get android system using more battery than the screen (around 50-60%).
I'm avoiding sending it over to the warranty, because I'll be 30 days without the phone and not sure they're figure out the problem.
Any help?
PS: I'm running stock Lollipop, haven't rooted yet. Same behaviour when I had 4.4
XDA Visitor said:
Hello everyone!
I own a LG G3 D855 and from the moment I bought it, I've noticed problems regarding battery life. After some resets, the store changed my battery. Despite this, it remained more or less the same. I usually never pass 3 hours of screen-on-time (no gaming!) with a full charge. After that, I considered it was due to the 2K display and reports around the internet talk about 4 hours with this phone, so I became thinking it was quite normal to have this battery life (asking your opinion, guys). Notice I usually have wifi on; 3g, nfc and gps turned off.
However there's a second problem. Sometimes, at random days, like it happen today, I get android system using more battery than the screen (around 50-60%).
I'm avoiding sending it over to the warranty, because I'll be 30 days without the phone and not sure they're figure out the problem.
Any help?
PS: I'm running stock Lollipop, haven't rooted yet. Same behaviour when I had 4.4
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Battery life ... oh there are many different fators that influence the battery life.
For example: The battery (capacity and health), the firmware (many the kernel), the apps, the usage, the system/apps settings, the temperature, the (wifi and/or mobile) signal strength, etc.
So it's hard to say if your battery life is "normal" or not.
For detailed discussion about the battery life on your device, please post in the G3 General > Battery Life Discussion thread.
If you think your battery is fine and suspect an app draining your battery, I recommend to install and use Better Battery Stats (BBS) app.
For some stats you will need to root your phone though. But you can record all stats and post a dumpfile from the app to the app thread, and the "experts" will analyze it for you ... helping to identify the culprit.
Thread closed. Thank you!
First of all, hello to everyone on the team of XDA Assist and thank you for having this great forum. Okay, now to the big deal, so this issue starts since the first day I changed to Lollipop through the CM 12 Nightlies, the main problem is that my battery drains a lot in idle (like 20% in 4 hours while on 3G mode and 2-3% per hour on WiFi) and also, my battery gauge is wrong (e.g: I use my phone and it stays at 60% then it suddenly drops at 57%) and I dont know if this is a software issue or a hardware issue, here is a list of the things I have tried:
Wiping Cache/Dalvik/Factory reset/Data
Calibrating the battery with a "calibration" app on the PS
Changing the ROM, I have tried CM12, 12.1 and Im actually running BlissPop 5.1 (Same problem on all of the 3 ROMS)
Letting the battery fully discharge and charge from 0% (When I connect my phone to the wall charger while the phone is off, it will turn on by itself)
And I dont know what to do anymore, seriously this is getting me crazy and yes, I already posted on the Moto G subforum but no one answered... so I guess they dont know how to fix my issue? However, I know this is not a helpdesk so I would like to know what else can I do or where other subforum can I go to fix my problem already.
Thanks in advance.
-Alejo
Hi, thank you for using XDA Assist. The best I can tell you is to post in your device's forum. They are the experts on your device. But I'd go back to stock and see if you still have the same battery issues. If you don't then it's an issue with the Rom you flashed.
Thread closed.
My beloved red Nexus 5 starts acting up... the battery drains extremely fast. Some weeks ago, I could barely make it to 2pm without having to recharge after unplugging. So I got a new battery (directly from LG, so definitely a genuine part) which improved the situation, but didn't completely solve the problem. Additionally, I flashed a CM 13 CAF ROM (using myfluxi's kernel) onto the N5 - I enjoy it so far, but there was actually no further change converning battery life.
Right now, the phone is at 10% after being unplugged in the morning at 9am. Wifi, bluetooth, GPS and mobile data were constantly on, cell signal was mostly perfect, wifi was connected for about 3h, bluetooth was always connected to my Moto 360. Screen on-time is about 2h and I listened to music using GPM for about 2h. The battery settings do not indicate any app using up too much battery power - it shows the display at 15%, cell standby at 10% and then several apps.
What do you think - a Nexus 5 with a new battery should make it through a day, shouldn't it?
I remember my first Nexus 5, back in the days with a G watch, making it through a day without any problem with 15-20% left when I plugged it in before going to bed... because of that, I start to think if there might be a bad electronics part, like the display backlight or something on the mainboard, using up too much power without being noticed by the OS. Is that possible?
Thank you very much for your advice!
iYassin
Read and post in the battery life troubleshooting thread stickied to the top of this forum, it will help logically determine what is using your battery.
You have a lot running at once, so difficult at the moment to solve your issue. It's better to turn things on/off one by one to make logical conclusions whether it has any noticeable effect.
The best logical way to conclude if it is a hardware problem is to go fully sock no additional apps no root etc, see if it 'drains' by itself
If not hardware, then 99% of the time it is a bad app(s) keeping your phone awake
This is likely not the case, but have you checked the CPU settings? I've only encountered such a drain while using performance governor together with overclocking.
Same here
I have the same problem and I have been banging my head about it, I don't really use my phone for anything much else than a phone and I kept having at least 3 days of using it with no problems.
Now the phone barely lasts 2 days and even switches off in the middle of the night...
Stormspik3 said:
I have the same problem and I have been banging my head about it, I don't really use my phone for anything much else than a phone and I kept having at least 3 days of using it with no problems.
Now the phone barely lasts 2 days and even switches off in the middle of the night...
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In the OP's case, his drain is likely caused by having GPS on all the time. That will absolutely devour battery life, so he could save himself some grief by turning it off until he than your phone turns off occasionally. First guess would be the power button going bad; that is generally the reason for needs it.
For you, who knows? You've not given any information, otherthat type of behavior
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In the OP's case, his drain is likely caused by having GPS on all the time. That will absolutely devour battery life, so he could save himself some grief by turning it off until he than your phone turns off occasionally. First guess would be the power button going bad; that is generally the reason for needs it.
For you, who knows? You've not given any information, other that type of behaviour
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Yes, sorry about that I was a bit annoyed at the phone. I found and fixed the problem. Go to settings > apps > disable google fit > click yes when it gives you some notifications about how you'll lose data or stuff like that > and click force stop at the end for good measure.
I am in my second day now of battery life at 59% with a looooooooot of talking today , I mean more than usual so it is definitely a fix for me. Hope it helps
Take care gents
Regards
Nik
Again same problem
Hi all,
Unfortunately I have better battery life but I am again losing a lot of battery.
I have a screenshot but I am unable to upload it sorry about that.
I use my phone mainly for calls roughly about 15 mins per day at the most in total ( not a lot at all I know) and I also have my bluetooth on at all times cause I have LG G Watch.
thing is that I have never had problems with the battery before. When I say before back in the day I still had my LG G Watch ( I have it for about 6-7 months) . Problem with the battery started roughly around 1 month.
Location is off, wi-fi is on on very rare occasions throughout the day when I need to check my e-mail and mobile data is the same. Navigation is used only if needed.
The real problem is that before I knew what was draining my batter now I have 79% of battery usage and I have 5 apps listed that drained each 1%
Android System 1%
Phone Idle 1%
Screen 1%
Google play services 1%
Android OS 1%
Where are the other 15 % ??
It is weird I really took pride in that phone and his battery life, I know that it is mainly because I don't use it as a regular used do i.e. gaming, facebook etc, but I still want to charge less than 1 time per 2 days or less
Thanks in advance
Regards
Nik
Stormspik3 said:
Hi all,
Unfortunately I have better battery life but I am again losing a lot of battery.
I have a screenshot but I am unable to upload it sorry about that.
I use my phone mainly for calls roughly about 15 mins per day at the most in total ( not a lot at all I know) and I also have my bluetooth on at all times cause I have LG G Watch.
thing is that I have never had problems with the battery before. When I say before back in the day I still had my LG G Watch ( I have it for about 6-7 months) . Problem with the battery started roughly around 1 month.
Location is off, wi-fi is on on very rare occasions throughout the day when I need to check my e-mail and mobile data is the same. Navigation is used only if needed.
The real problem is that before I knew what was draining my batter now I have 79% of battery usage and I have 5 apps listed that drained each 1%
Android System 1%
Phone Idle 1%
Screen 1%
Google play services 1%
Android OS 1%
Where are the other 15 % ??
It is weird I really took pride in that phone and his battery life, I know that it is mainly because I don't use it as a regular used do i.e. gaming, facebook etc, but I still want to charge less than 1 time per 2 days or less
Thanks in advance
Regards
Nik
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As stated above, read and post in the battery life troubleshooting thread stickied to the top of Q&A.
They will help logically diagnose what is using your battery.