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[Q] Bad battery life :(

I have done the following already
Location services disabled
Google Now disabled
Location reporting disabled
Wifi Scanning disabled
wiped cache
G is still getting drained quick. Screen on time doesnt cross 2.5-3.5 hours . I keep wifi and 3g both on

Install an app like BetterBatteryStats or Wakelock Detector. They will show more information but require root.

Dexxon said:
Install an app like BetterBatteryStats or Wakelock Detector. They will show more information but require root.
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I am unrooted unrooted G's in the other xda moto g battery screenshot thread are getting a screen on time of 5-6 hours.. cant seem to be able to match their numbers even remotely

Do you have the brightness set to auto?

Dexxon said:
Do you have the brightness set to auto?
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actually yes, but could that be such a major drain factor??

Actually i don't really know but who knows? Since when are you facing this issue?

Dexxon said:
Actually i don't really know but who knows? Since when are you facing this issue?
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the device itself is about 10 day old. so can't pinpoint exactly

Seems to be a strange issue. Maybe you should give it some time. If it is not getting any better you should consider rooting and install a better battery app

You could try a factory reset
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Battery drain app might give you some ideas, I'm averaging 0.85% hour with location and google now on
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.WazaBe.android.BatteryDrain

There are threads and a bug report with Motorola regarding this. It seems sometimes once GPS is used the battery continues to drain at 1-3% per hour until you reboot.
It may not be the issue in your case but it looks likely as the drain you see when the phone is not awake looks very similar to the problem.
If it drains in airplane mode and the phone shows as never awake then its the same problem.
For now don't use GPS or if you do then reboot directly after.

eemgee said:
Battery drain app might give you some ideas, I'm averaging 0.85% hour with location and google now on
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.WazaBe.android.BatteryDrain
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ok, installed it, will keep posting results

scott_doyland said:
There are threads and a bug report with Motorola regarding this. It seems sometimes once GPS is used the battery continues to drain at 1-3% per hour until you reboot.
It may not be the issue in your case but it looks likely as the drain you see when the phone is not awake looks very similar to the problem.
If it drains in airplane mode and the phone shows as never awake then its the same problem.
For now don't use GPS or if you do then reboot directly after.
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I have disabled location completely and haven't used GPS at all. But other phones in XDA seem to be getting awesome battery life despite GPS on

xgt001 said:
I have disabled location completely and haven't used GPS at all. But other phones in XDA seem to be getting awesome battery life despite GPS on
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If you use your camera, then that might be the problem. Google itself noted a bug in Kit Kat that may run down the battery if you use the camera. Do a search on Google for more details...

btw I found this article stating skype sucks battery, how true is it?? will keep posting any changes after uninstall

@emgee It's showing a drain of 2.8%/hr with wifi on
Prior to this early morning I had turned off data and wifi and I got a battery drop from 100% to 91% in about 7 hrs, is that Ok?

xgt001 said:
I have disabled location completely and haven't used GPS at all. But other phones in XDA seem to be getting awesome battery life despite GPS on
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OK, it was just that he first screenshot showed GPS was used right at the start of the battery graph. I assume you have rebooted since then.

scott_doyland said:
OK, it was just that he first screenshot showed GPS was used right at the start of the battery graph. I assume you have rebooted since then.
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yeah have done.
So you suggest that battery saving option in Location is the best to use?? I have been following that thread

xgt001 said:
yeah have done.
So you suggest that battery saving option in Location is the best to use?? I have been following that thread
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If you are getting the weird drain issue that seems to be related to GPS then maybe best to use battery saving. Depends his bad you need GPS though. So up to you really.

battery drain around 2.5 % /hr . Basically havent been using phone after 82%

battery draining fast

I noticed battery draining fast since I installed gravity box. Without even touching the phone in the morning it will go down to 99%
I attached the screenshot of wakelock detector from this morning. an hour commute with just listening to music dropped 15%

You need to be a bit clearer with your reports about 'drain'
Are you reporting 1% battery drop as a 'drain' definitely due to gravitybox?
Are you using a custom rom with a feature conflicting with gravitybox?
Can you uninstall gravitybox and immediately confirm the drain goes away?
Your 15% drop, were you streaming via 3G on your hour commute? If so that sounds reasonable as it works harder to keep the signal
Try betterbatterystats as well to look at other wakelocks

eddiehk6 said:
You need to be a bit clearer with your reports about 'drain'
Are you reporting 1% battery drop as a 'drain' definitely due to gravitybox?
Are you using a custom rom with a feature conflicting with gravitybox?
Can you uninstall gravitybox and immediately confirm the drain goes away?
Your 15% drop, were you streaming via 3G on your hour commute? If so that sounds reasonable as it works harder to keep the signal
Try betterbatterystats as well to look at other wakelocks
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I am stock but rooted.
I am on lte but half of my commute i have no signal from being on a train. but usually my phone lasts a day or at least 12 hours now i am only getting 6 hours.
I will try better battery stats and then post a screenshot before uninstall gravity body

I have the same problem. I Ajay lost 3%in one minute after using this for 4 minutes. Something not right with that gravity box. I'll be lucky to get 2.5 hours of screen time compared to my 3.5 I used to get.
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here is the better battery stats
not sure if accurate reading since it was installed with 80% battery left.
I will have to try again when it is fully charged

Gravity box won't drain your battery.
Not having a signal on the train will tho....big time. Unless you switched to airplane mode? Anytime the phone has to look for a signal, the battery takes a real beating.
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kj2112 said:
Gravity box won't drain your battery.
Not having a signal on the train will tho....big time. Unless you switched to airplane mode? Anytime the phone has to look for a signal, the battery takes a real beating.
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The weird thing is even with traveling on the train i used to get at least 12. Even on the weekends when I am home it is draining fast unless I don't touch the phone at all

jj71787 said:
I am stock but rooted.
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rooting does not necessarily mean you will have better or wore battery. Try changing the kernel, stock kernel gives you 3-3.5 hrs SOT normal usage.(unless you use it to read books)
I had 0% drain overnight when i first bough the phone, but after a while 1-3% drain overnight is normal.

gamer.11 said:
rooting does not necessarily mean you will have better or wore battery. Try changing the kernel, stock kernel gives you 3-3.5 hrs SOT normal usage.(unless you use it to read books)
I had 0% drain overnight when i first bough the phone, but after a while 1-3% drain overnight is normal.
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I understand that. I was just stating that I was not on a custom rom.
I heard that franco kernal is the same battery stats as stock.
any suggestions?
Thanks

There was some problem with old version of KitKat. Google Now constantly was accessing location services and draining the battery like hell. I don't know if it got fixed or not.
Try turning off location and use phone normally.
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cooolforce said:
There was some problem with old version of KitKat. Google Now constantly was accessing location services and draining the battery like hell. I don't know if it got fixed or not.
Try turning off location and use phone normally.
Sent from my GT-N7100 using Tapatalk
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I was thinking of that. I never had the problem with keeping it in battery saving mode. I will have to try turning it off

jj71787 said:
I was thinking of that. I never had the problem with keeping it in battery saving mode. I will have to try turning it off
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Great! So let us know the results
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jj71787 said:
here is the better battery stats
not sure if accurate reading since it was installed with 80% battery left.
I will have to try again when it is fully charged
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jj71787 said:
I understand that. I was just stating that I was not on a custom rom.
I heard that franco kernal is the same battery stats as stock.
any suggestions?
Thanks
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Different kernels behave differently for everyone's device and usage. You need to experiment yourself.
But before you do, work out what is using your battery first, electricity doesn't just disappear, tends to obey the laws of physics...
Then determine if it's definitely gravity box, or if you're experiencing phone 'usage' as opposed to battery 'drain'
Leave wakelock detector and betterbatterystats for collecting data for much longer. Put your phone down for a while...

eddiehk6 said:
Different kernels behave differently for everyone's device and usage. You need to experiment yourself.
But before you do, work out what is using your battery first, electricity doesn't just disappear, tends to obey the laws of physics...
Then determine if it's definitely gravity box, or if you're experiencing phone 'usage' as opposed to battery 'drain'
Leave wakelock detector and betterbatterystats for collecting data for much longer. Put your phone down for a while...
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I turned location off to see if it is that. I am going to try better battery stats tomorrow after i gets a full charge

jj71787 said:
I turned location off to see if it is that. I am going to try better battery stats tomorrow after i gets a full charge
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So man, did turning off location services help ?
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Are you performing soft restarts? If so, that's probably the reason. For some reason, Android doesn't take well to soft restarts, so when you soft reset it never initializes properly and you end up with strange things like excessive battery drainage.

BirchBarlow said:
Are you performing soft restarts? If so, that's probably the reason. For some reason, Android doesn't take well to soft restarts, so when you soft reset it never initializes properly and you end up with strange things like excessive battery drainage.
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Interesting...I've been having erratic drain patterns lately with no visible culprits. I've noticed it happens sometimes after updating gravity box and I always do a soft reboot, so that might explain it. Do you have any more information about it?
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I only did 1 softboot.
I think the culprit is google music it drains the battery like crazy. I tried not listening to music on my commute and got to work with 98% battery. With google music I will get to work with 90%

BirchBarlow said:
Are you performing soft restarts? If so, that's probably the reason. For some reason, Android doesn't take well to soft restarts, so when you soft reset it never initializes properly and you end up with strange things like excessive battery drainage.
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soft reboots do fine on android. your "never initializes properly" is inaccurate and just plain wrong.

jj71787 said:
I only did 1 softboot.
I think the culprit is google music it drains the battery like crazy. I tried not listening to music on my commute and got to work with 98% battery. With google music I will get to work with 90%
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To be honest this looks like phone usage, rather than particularly bad battery 'drain'. Are you expecting that your battery should be 98% if you listen to music while on the move for an hour? Or what would a reasonable expected level be?
Your first post said that an hour commute dropped 15%, now it's dropping 10%? Sounds like an improvement to me.

Idle Battery Drain

Hi,
I'm experiencing quite big idle battery drain, but not always. Sometimes by battery lasts for 3-4 days with minimal usage, but some days it goes down by up to 4% per hour with no usage. I'm sure it's not a rogue app keeping my phone awake and I've done the Google Play Services "fix" in App Ops. I'm running stable crDroid KitKat with stock kernel, and a lot of people don't seem to be having issues.
I've attached some screenshots from Wakelock Detector. It looks to me there is an insane number of wakeups for some reason. Has anyone had anything like this and managed to fix it?
Thanks.

Connectivity service is probably your culprit. It's a very bad battery draining wakelock that happens when you lose network signal and It keeps your phone awake until it finds another signal. Your best option would be to try out a different modem
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abhi08638 said:
Connectivity service is probably your culprit. It's a very bad battery draining wakelock that happens when you lose network signal and It keeps your phone awake until it finds another signal. Your best option would be to try out a different modem
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Thanks for the reply.
I think you're right. I was looking at the stats today and I saw a lot of wake-ups by 'RILJ' under phone, which also suggest my issue might be modem-related. I've attached a screenshot for reference.
On a side note, it seems a bit weird how WLD shows a lot of wake-ups by SwiftKey with 'AudioMix'. I've never fully trusted that these apps show accurate stats, especially when it comes to system processes.
But anyway, I'll give a newer modem a try when I have the time and report back.
Thanks again :good:

Huge battery drain problem after Lilipop update

After updating my Z3's firmware to Lilipop, I'm facing huge battery drain. In kitkat, when returning home battery remained 55%. After update, I found it 30-35%. Note that my usage pattern didn't change.
How can I get rid of it?

sameee781 said:
After updating my Z3's firmware to Lilipop, I'm facing huge battery drain. In kitkat, when returning home battery remained 55%. After update, I found it 30-35%. Note that my usage pattern didn't change.
How can I get rid of it?
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There is another thread for this issue.

Does there have the solution? Please share the link.

Many users reported that a factory reset fixed their problems. Only downside is that you have to reconfigure your phone

done factory reset manytimes but the drain remains..
seems like radio being active by apps is the problem
i'd love to post screenshots but since i am new here you know i am unable

Have you tried using BBS (better battery stats) to isolate the drain? And also try setting "keep wifi in sleepmode" to never or only when connected. Have heard of that working wonders for some.
And the screenshot thing can be overcome by uploading it to a different site and posting only the links

Preper yourself for NO notifications, if you put WI-FI to sleep.

I have wifi asleep and still get notifications. Maybe a little less frequent, but that's because stamina mode is working better (in my opinion) and only checks once in a while for new notifications

crazymister said:
I have wifi asleep and still get notifications. Maybe a little less frequent, but that's because stamina mode is working better (in my opinion) and only checks once in a while for new notifications
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That' s the Queue background data option that is doing that.

So there ARE notifications Vs what you said that there would be none. I rest my case here

MOD EDIT @gregbradley
@ OP, I also ticked the option that other apps may not use wifi for location even when wifi is off. I believe that may also cost you some juice

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crazymister said:
Have you tried using BBS (better battery stats) to isolate the drain? And also try setting "keep wifi in sleepmode" to never or only when connected. Have heard of that working wonders for some.
And the screenshot thing can be overcome by uploading it to a different site and posting only the links
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thanks for suggestions ..

It's funny how my phone ran normal for the first week now the phone is being drained by Facebook and feedly, I have made no changes in any settings and its happening now. Haven't looked into the problem yet but don't even know is it third party issues lol.
One thing I found out is that the battery tend to drain at a lesser rate if you leave the phone charged for an extra 20 mins or more after hitting 100%. Just a speculation

LitoNi said:
It's funny how my phone ran normal for the first week now the phone is being drained by Facebook and feedly, I have made no changes in any settings and its happening now. Haven't looked into the problem yet but don't even know is it third party issues lol.
One thing I found out is that the battery tend to drain at a lesser rate if you leave the phone charged for an extra 20 mins or more after hitting 100%. Just a speculation
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So, blame facebook for the battery drain.
There is an option where you can make the phone play a sound when is fully charged.

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Just clean flash stock ftf.. Ota just sucks. I did it and my battery returned to prime life again.

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I doubt that the reason we have the same problem is the same, but since I know how to post a screen cap, here's mine:

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Why is my idle battery drain so bad if all my wakelocks look fine? (Pie stable)

Getting fine screen on time, but bad standby time. I left my phone idle for more than 10 hours, and everything looks fine...but I'm draining more than 2% per hour doing nothing! When I use the phone normally, idle drain is closer to 3%, with still not specific problem that can be seen. On Oreo stable, it was around 1.5%, which is still bad compared to my iPhone, but not unbearable. I had no SIM installed because it was in my iPhone, but with or without makes no noticeable difference.
Advanced optimization, sleep standby optimization AND adaptive battery also make no noticeable difference in ANY combination on and off.
Anyone have any ideas? Thanks in advance.
Edit: You might also notice the VPN icon, it's not a normal VPN (with active, keep-alive connection), but a proxy for those of us living in China. Again, I've tested on or off, no difference, and you can't see it in wakelocks or processes.

and kernel wakelocks?

whizeguy said:
and kernel wakelocks?
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My bad.

Did you try turning off the WiFi scanning?

hasan4791 said:
Did you try turning off the WiFi scanning?
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Off by default I believe. It's off for me.

I need those pictures after let's say 6 hours of standby. I need to see standby usage only. So make a custom mark when you go to bed and then take the SS

whizeguy said:
I need those pictures after let's say 6 hours of standby. I need to see standby usage only. So make a custom mark when you go to bed and then take the SS
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That is standby. SoT is like 2 minutes.

deedaleet said:
That is standby. SoT is like 2 minutes.
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Get another over night stats for better understanding...

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Get another over night stats for better understanding...
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I don't understand. This is 11 hours of stats idle, on my table at home, with no one touching it. This is no different from ide overnight on my bedside table except total time. I have gathered overnight stats many times with exactly the same results as what's shown here trying to figure out what's wrong.

Could also be a bad WIFI, seen this before for some 5ghz networks.
Is bbs being optimized in battery settings?
try 2.4ghz wifi if you can (where you have good connection, OR just turn wifi off, so we can rule that out the equation.)
make sure better battery stats is NOT being optimized
and try one more time.

whizeguy said:
Could also be a bad WIFI, seen this before for some 5ghz networks.
Is bbs being optimized in battery settings?
try 2.4ghz wifi if you can (where you have good connection, OR just turn wifi off, so we can rule that out the equation.)
make sure better battery stats is NOT being optimized
and try one more time.
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Thanks for those suggestions. I hadn't tried switching to 2.4ghz or un-optimizing better battery stats. Unfortunately, there is no noticeable difference yet again. Turning Wifi off totally used to help a bit in Oreo, but hasn't made any difference at all in Pie.

Having the same issue too. Idle drain is fairly high on pie. Wakelocks are pretty clean too. I'm convinced it's something Google related or it's just the system isn't all that optimized as they want us to believe

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Having the same issue too. Idle drain is fairly high on pie. Wakelocks are pretty clean too. I'm convinced it's something Google related or it's just the system isn't all that optimized as they want us to believe
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Thanks for the reply. That makes me feel a little better. Most people on the internet complaining about Pie drain of course has no idea how to actually check anything beyond Android stock battery stats, so there's no way to corroborate.
I noticed that beta 4 has " * Optimized standby power consumption " listed as a system fix. But I don't want to clean flash in and then clean flash out of beta yet again because all of them have had such horrible touch latency that dozens of users are complaining about. But I'm almost tempted to try it.
Can anyone on beta 4 chime in?

deedaleet said:
Thanks for the reply. That makes me feel a little better. Most people on the internet complaining about Pie drain of course has no idea how to actually check anything beyond Android stock battery stats, so there's no way to corroborate.
I noticed that beta 4 has " * Optimized standby power consumption " listed as a system fix. But I don't want to clean flash in and then clean flash out of beta yet again because all of them have had such horrible touch latency that dozens of users are complaining about. But I'm almost tempted to try it.
Can anyone on beta 4 chime in?
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I'm on beta 4, first dirty flash and I had 0.3%/hour
I cleanflashed few days back,no root,locked bootloader. I loose 4% in 7hrs 30 minutes. So it's ok.. with GPS,wifi bluetooth on.
Touch latency is like stable pie.

i flashed the ob4 and wait to see battery consumption how it goes! i did'nt lose any files or settings

whizeguy said:
I'm on beta 4, first dirty flash and I had 0.3%/hour
I cleanflashed few days back,no root,locked bootloader. I loose 4% in 7hrs 30 minutes. So it's ok.. with GPS,wifi bluetooth on.
Touch latency is like stable pie.
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Thanks for the feedback! But 0.3% / hour? I'm skeptical. I'm not sure that any Android phone has ever been that low draining, ever. Certainly not in my years of experience. I don't think that's possible even with no apps installed. You can't post any wakelock details because you're not rooted... Maybe post a screenshot of your battery usage graph, please?

deedaleet said:
Thanks for the feedback! But 0.3% / hour? I'm skeptical. I'm not sure that any Android phone has ever been that low draining, ever. Certainly not in my years of experience. I don't think that's possible even with no apps installed. You can't post any wakelock details because you're not rooted... Maybe post a screenshot of your battery usage graph, please?
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I have posts in the battery thread with BBS.
I had the same with my S7 edge.. so you can doubt all you want,I really don't care. Will post picture with an edit when I find it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77606592&postcount=211

whizeguy said:
I have posts in the battery thread with BBS.
I had the same with my S7 edge.. so you can doubt all you want,I really don't care. Will post picture with an edit when I find it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77606592&postcount=211
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Well, I stand corrected. I have no idea what perfect storm of perfect conditions is represented here to get standby drain to near-iOS levels of amazingness, but that's impressive.

deedaleet said:
Well, I stand corrected. I have no idea what perfect storm of perfect conditions is represented here to get standby drain to near-iOS levels of amazingness, but that's impressive.
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Thanks. I feel like I'm being really lucky with this device tho.
I will get my root on today, clean flash again and I will just set it up and see where it lands. But I thought no what saves my battery the most is really good reception. The antenna is around 100meters (300 feet) from my house, WiFi is on point aswell (best on 2.4ghz)

So, like I said the bootloader got unlocked, root is on again so everything is fresh.
The smart battery didn't even have time to read apps that's draining battery this is standby usage with stock settings from OnePlus,without any optimizations. Im counting on adaptive battery that it will do its thing after a day or two.
I have around 20 apps installed but the ones that matter for battery is Telegram, instagram, steam.