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Confused about getting INSPIRE 4G? help

Hellow i hope if can help me!
I have actually a Samsung Captivate in T-Mobile i know Only edge.. the only thing i have about the phone is the camera I want a good phone camera with flash also the Inspire have one.. My phone's rooted with Pinnacle 1.3 looking like SAMSUNG GALAXY S2... my doubts are? the phone is better ? better than a AMOLED screen? pro and cons? about getting a Inspire? Also the battery is better than the CAPTIVATE? it's so important to me? i read alot but i don't decide :/ help me please! ... thanks

*cough* I certainly wouldn't call the Inspire's camera "good." Instead, I would use terms such as: lackluster, mediocre, disappointing, meh.

zuriken said:
*cough* I certainly wouldn't call the Inspire's camera "good." Instead, I would use terms such as: lackluster, mediocre, disappointing, meh.
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Agreed, it is "acceptable" at best. Wait for the Amaze 4G, which will give you up to 42Mbps down on T-Mo anyway.

zuriken said:
*cough* I certainly wouldn't call the Inspire's camera "good." Instead, I would use terms such as: lackluster, mediocre, disappointing, meh.
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oh so it's btter to keep my captivate because take btter pictures? than inspire haha

liowdanger said:
oh so it's btter to keep my captivate because take btter pictures? than inspire haha
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That's exactly why my sister has kept her older HTC phone with a 5MP camera, because the Inspire's camera is absolute crap in comparison.
I've gone back to film-based cameras because of the crap 8MP camera isn't worth the hassle of trying to "fix" the pictures it takes.

zuriken said:
That's exactly why my sister has kept her HTC phone with a 5MP camera, because the Inspire's camera is absolute crap in comparison.
I've gone back to film-based cameras because of the crap 8MP camera isn't worth the hassle of trying to "fix" the pictures it takes.
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Interesting - my Inspire's camera takes the best pictures of any phone I've ever had. I know we regularly use mine over my wife's iphone because it takes MUCH better pictures

homeslice976 said:
Interesting - my Inspire's camera takes the best pictures of any phone I've ever had. I know we regularly use mine over my wife's iphone because it takes MUCH better pictures
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There was no consistency in the photo quality. Some came out crystal clear and sharp, while others looked like frame-grabs from television.
Oddly enough, while the photo quality was lousy, the VIDEO quality was excellent.

homeslice976 said:
Interesting - my Inspire's camera takes the best pictures of any phone I've ever had. I know we regularly use mine over my wife's iphone because it takes MUCH better pictures
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I can't think of a single redeeming quality of the Captivate VS the Inspire.
Camera works great for me, GPS works, battery life could be better but still acceptable
PLUS I didn't have to put up with Samsung's idiocy of using RFS file system.
I have been EXTREMELY happy with the Inspire. It's the only phone I've held on to for more than 6 months. I bought it on release day.

gunnyman said:
I have been EXTREMELY happy with the Inspire. It's the only phone I've held on to for more than 6 months. I bought it on release day.
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With the exception of the camera (and the 1-size battery design), I'm also very happy with the Inspire.

I don't know how she does it, but my wife can take some absolutely gorgeous pictures with her Inspire. Me, well I'm not so great with mine.
Sent from my Inspire 4G using Tapatalk

You only need to change a few settings to make the camera take better pictures...first thing you should always do is take off anything that automatically sets itself...
I love my inspire, had it since may I think...best phone on art right next to gs2
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My inspire takes amazing pics for a damn phone.
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Samsung Galaxy S IV - Phone of the Year 2013

It doesn't take a genius to see that this phone offers way beyond what other manufacturers are capable of. Any company can put together a body and screen and call it a phone, but Samsung not only puts the best hardware, they have the best software. What a beautiful phone. Just like the S3, and S2 before that, the S4 is easily going to win the award. It bascially made all other phones obsolete. (sans spen). Good job Sammy.

Matter of opinion but I agree with you
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Don't wanna be a part pooper (I too would like to give Sammy a post on the back) but what's the purpose of this thread
S4 INFO

TingTingin said:
Don't wanna be a part pooper (I too would like to give Sammy a post on the back) but what's the purpose of this thread
S4 INFO
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good question
OP, you're delusional if you can't admit that the HTC One is an incredible piece of hardware and software in its own right.
it'll be a close call for the phone of the year - if its to be one of these 2, i am sure that opinion will be just as divided as it is now.

djbenny1 said:
good question
OP, you're delusional if you can't admit that the HTC One is an incredible piece of hardware and software in its own right.
it'll be a close call for the phone of the year - if its to be one of these 2, i am sure that opinion will be just as divided as it is now.
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I have to agree although i sense you being a little bias towards the HTC One. But yeah, in my opinion there are 2 2013 Flagship phones that matter, S IV and HTC One. The rest IS obsolete so far and that is including the XZ and the optimus G pro ( not that its a bad phone but it wont compete).

barondebxl said:
I have to agree although i sense you being a little bias towards the HTC One. But yeah, in my opinion there are 2 2013 Flagship phones that matter, S IV and HTC One. The rest IS obsolete so far and that is including the XZ and the optimus G pro ( not that its a bad phone but it wont compete).
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HTC One is my choice - no doubt - I waited until GS4 was announced before i decided though so i was still hoping samsung could pull something out of the bag.
you're right, theres nothing else out now that comes close to either of them but it will be interesting to see next Nexus phone though.

In my view HTC Sense is quite smoother, excellent and amazing over touchwiz.
It is my opinion only. But beware of HTC One. It's gonna be a tug of war.

And what about the Note2(or coming Note3)? Doesn't it deserve a nomination?

djbenny1 said:
HTC One is my choice - no doubt - I waited until GS4 was announced before i decided though so i was still hoping samsung could pull something out of the bag.
you're right, theres nothing else out now that comes close to either of them but it will be interesting to see next Nexus phone though.
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Oh yeah definitely. Nexus(es) are always relevant regardless. I also waited for the S IV announcement to make up my mind between the 2 and chose S 4. But i will at some point get the HTC One and carry both

djbenny1 said:
good question
OP, you're delusional if you can't admit that the HTC One is an incredible piece of hardware and software in its own right.
it'll be a close call for the phone of the year - if its to be one of these 2, i am sure that opinion will be just as divided as it is now.
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What's so special about the One other than the nice animations and battery consuming Blink?
I had an HTC before with Sense 4, and the software didn't impress me at all.

Kremata said:
And what about the Note2(or coming Note3)? Doesn't it deserve a nomination?
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Note 3 isn't out yet and note 2, while being one of the best phone ever isn't a flagship for this year. We are just comparing the new devices. But yeah note 2 is a beast no doubt.

SamerBerjawi said:
What's so special about the One other than the nice animations and battery consuming Blink?
I had an HTC before with Sense 4, and the software didn't impress me at all.
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looking at software only, sense 5 is MUCH closer to stock android than any other version previously.
they've also removed much of the bloat that was in other versions.
(for the record, i didnt care much for previous versions of sense either, usually preferred stock android)
this is off topic though.
on topic, yea i was going to mention the note 3 - i dunno though, im not entirely happy with it being called a phone, for me its TOO big as i believe its 5.5"?
5" is really pushing it IMO.

I'm a Galaxy S fan and I think that unfortunately the S4 is being released too early.
now every manufacturer who comes out with a flagship phone will try to top it and probably succeed :/
I wonder if Apple will be able to with the new iPhone

SamerBerjawi said:
What's so special about the One other than the nice animations and battery consuming Blink?
I had an HTC before with Sense 4, and the software didn't impress me at all.
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Samsung S4's Super OLED screen has a stunning 441ppi, which is more than the iPhone 5 but less than the HTC One (468).
S4 - Plastic build.
ONE- Premium built.
The ultra pixel camera of ONE beats up 13MP camera.
In terms of speed S4 is the winner but this doesn't mean that ONE is not a good phone.
Am not contradicting with you, am saying "what's so special about One"

shashivydyula said:
Samsung S4's Super OLED screen has a stunning 441ppi, which is more than the iPhone 5 but less than the HTC One (468).
S4 - Plastic build.
ONE- Premium built.
The ultra pixel camera of ONE beats up 13MP camera.
In terms of speed S4 is the winner but this doesn't mean that ONE is not a good phone.
Am not contradicting with you, am saying "what's so special about One"
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Some people love super amoled, while some don't care for it. The way I see it, samsung and htc make the best screens on the market today. I prefer my Note 2's super amoled over the HTC One X's Super LCD 2, so I am thinking I am going to prefer the S4 screen over the One.
However the camera on the One has been getting some mixed reviews. It's being seen that it does take great pictures in low light settings due to the better absorption from the lesser pixels, but pictures are as sharp as those seen on other 8 MP camera, especially when zooming in on the pictures. For most people it doesn't matter, but to say that the One's camera "beats up" the camera on the S4 is a bit over sighted especially since we haven't seen any comparable shots taken between the two cameras.

oneinfour said:
Some people love super amoled, while some don't care for it. The way I see it, samsung and htc make the best screens on the market today. I prefer my Note 2's super amoled over the HTC One X's Super LCD 2, so I am thinking I am going to prefer the S4 screen over the One.
However the camera on the One has been getting some mixed reviews. It's being seen that it does take great pictures in low light settings due to the better absorption from the lesser pixels, but pictures are as sharp as those seen on other 8 MP camera, especially when zooming in on the pictures. For most people it doesn't matter, but to say that the One's camera "beats up" the camera on the S4 is a bit over sighted especially since we haven't seen any comparable shots taken between the two cameras.
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there is one comparison that ive seen which was done at the samsung event, its over on the one forum if you're interested.
in that case the One is clearly better - but then again it was fairly low light, and one had final software - im sure gs4 did not.

djbenny1 said:
there is one comparison that ive seen which was done at the samsung event, its over on the one forum if you're interested.
in that case the One is clearly better - but then again it was fairly low light, and one had final software - im sure gs4 did not.
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There are few images of HTC ONE's camera captures on techradar site.
They said that in a low light and darker places HTC One has an incredible performance where iphone5 and S3 failed to capture details of the image in those conditions.
Am sure the cam of One is superb and excellent.

shashivydyula said:
There are few images of HTC ONE's camera captures on techradar site.
They said that in a low light and darker places HTC One has an incredible performance where iphone5 and S3 failed to capture details of the image in those conditions.
Am sure the cam of One is superb and excellent.
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Its good in low light conditions.. but not good when u view in your laptop or zoom in on your phone or good for outside shots or bright conditions..
I m sorry..your surety doesnt mean that its good enough...
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Chillz88 said:
Its good in low light conditions.. but not good when u view in your laptop or zoom in on your phone or good for outside shots or bright conditions..
I m sorry..your surety doesnt mean that its good enough...
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it's really not complicated.
the HTC One has a good camera - i dont think you will find a review that doesnt say that.
on the other hand, the same people all agree that it's lacking in detail - no big surprise. that's the price you pay for low light performance.
those who know enough about camera variables to tinker with the settings will be able to get very similar results on both phones regarding colour etc.
if you don't care about low light performance, then almost certainly gs4 camera wins for you (if you are only considering those 2 phones), if you do care about low light and also image stabilisation, then HTC wins.
easy.

If u read what I said instead of jumping on me because of your fanboyism, you wil read that I said they take good low light photos.. and pics good for facebook.. but I have a life outside facebook.. only max 5 percent of the photos I take get on it.. some people dont use fb.... so I dont need a 4mp..sorry.. and if u check verge, pocketnow and even watch their shows on youtube, you will easily hear them saying that htc is a fail in camera..
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Tell my why I shouldn't return my One M9 for an S6

I've had my HTC One M9 for 2 days now, and I'm starting to see things that are disappointing to me. Especially for such a high end, pricey device. Battery life is not very good at all compared to my old LG G2. And it takes forever to charge. The camera is, for lack of a better word, horrible.
I'm trying to decide if I should return it to T-Mobile in exchange for a Galaxy S6. All the reviews I've read and watched lean toward the S6.
Tell me why or why not?

...You came to the S6 forum to ask fans of the device to talk you into NOT getting it?
Seriously? -_-
Nah, this is definitely an April Fool's post.

I was torn between the m9 and s6..after watching the keynote and seeing hands on videos, I quickly decided on the s6. I'm glad I did. Pictures look better than my g2 (the phone I came from). The screen crispness, colors and brightness is superb! Didn't mind not having micro SD or removable battery since I didn't have it before.
The only thing I find weird to adjust is that whites seem to have a yellow tint, where as on my g2 they were more blue or white (in my opinion).
The front facing camera is really nice quality too.
S6,higher res screen in a slightly bigger screen size. The size of s6 is smaller and lighter than the m9.

Poetique said:
...You came to the S6 forum to ask fans of the device to talk you into NOT getting it?
Seriously? -_-
Nah, this is definitely an April Fool's post.
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Sure, why not? There's folks here that can tell me real life pros and cons.

ledvedder said:
Sure, why not? There's folks here that can tell me real life pros and cons.
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Well... the only cons are the same cons that every review mentions. Lack of SD card slot and price. Also the speaker quality is obviously lesser on the S6 if that matters to you.
The only other consideration is how much you care about rooting/unlocking/custom ROM support, which will certainly be stronger on the M9 just because it's a Snapdragon device. At least that's how it'll be initially.
Other than those, the M9 loses in every other measurable area.
So really the M9 Vs. S6 issue comes down to how much the price difference matters, how much you care about "3rd party" support, and whether or not you need a SD card slot.
Edit: Suppose the M9 warranty program is worth considering as well.

tlxxxsracer said:
I was torn between the m9 and s6..after watching the keynote and seeing hands on videos, I quickly decided on the s6. I'm glad I did. Pictures look better than my g2 (the phone I came from). The screen crispness, colors and brightness is superb! Didn't mind not having micro SD or removable battery since I didn't have it before.
The only thing I find weird to adjust is that whites seem to have a yellow tint, where as on my g2 they were more blue or white (in my opinion).
The front facing camera is really nice quality too.
S6,higher res screen in a slightly bigger screen size. The size of s6 is smaller and lighter than the m9.
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How's battery life compared to the G2? My M9 doesn't come close to my previous G2.

ledvedder said:
How's battery life compared to the G2? My M9 doesn't come close to my previous G2.
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We'll, my G2 was running aicp 5.0.2 with custom rom which I could easily go 24hrs and be fine.
So far my s6 has slightly less battery life. But i can quickly go from 15% to 100% in an hour. Balances out. I'm using the s6 a lot to get things setup and such, so not quite a fair comparison. Letting the battery settle in for a week.
I do see a speed difference between my g2 and the s6 though
I'm even kinda been on the fence to keep my G2 and hold out what's to come in the fall, but that is very unlikely for me to do.

tlxxxsracer said:
We'll, my G2 was running aicp 5.0.2 with custom rom which I could easily go 24hrs and be fine.
So far my s6 has slightly less battery life. But i can quickly go from 15% to 100% in an hour. Balances out. I'm using the s6 a lot to get things setup and such, so not quite a fair comparison. Letting the battery settle in for a week.
I do see a speed difference between my g2 and the s6 though
I'm even kinda been on the fence to keep my G2 and hold out what's to come in the fall, but that is very unlikely for me to do.
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The s6 is faster, or the g2? Same here with waiting. I wanted to wait for the g4, but with T-Mobile's jump, I'm able to upgrade every 6 months. So, no biggie if I wanna go back to LG at the end of the year.

ledvedder said:
The s6 is faster, or the g2? Same here with waiting. I wanted to wait for the g4, but with T-Mobile's jump, I'm able to upgrade every 6 months. So, no biggie if I wanna go back to LG at the end of the year.
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Here's my thoughts on the s6, instead of me writing a long post.http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/general/impression-unprofessional-review-t3068089

tenxo said:
Here's my thoughts on the s6, instead of me writing a long post.http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/general/impression-unprofessional-review-t3068089
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Thanks, I've read it already [emoji106]

ledvedder said:
The s6 is faster, or the g2? Same here with waiting. I wanted to wait for the g4, but with T-Mobile's jump, I'm able to upgrade every 6 months. So, no biggie if I wanna go back to LG at the end of the year.
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I haven't gotten the S6 yet since I'll have to wait until April 10th, and I'm also coming from a G2.
The S6 will definitely be faster- even though I really do enjoy my G2.

All the Bestbuy locations have the S6/Edge on display. I suggest you check them out in person.

If you are coming here to ask you have already made your decision. To be honest if you are interested in a G4 id wait until its announced and compare that to the S6 then get a device.

I'll tell you why you SHOULD return your One M9. The S6 is by far the biggest leap I've ever seen in a phone, and I've had every major LG/HTC/Samsung phone from the past 3 years lol.
It truly is a home run.

Keep m9 for a bit longer to see if anything changes in terms of camera and battery performance. I think a person should keep a phone for a least two weeks to get a good impression. Also go on HTC thread to see camera tricks. I'm getting m9 tomorrow and I will see if it will meet my great expectations as I'm coming from a phone that's three years old.
I would only buy s6 if camera was the main thing but for me it isn't and the negatives of the s6 outweigh my liking for the device. The soc difference isn't big in reality and I think they both have inconsistent battery reviews from people, so they are similarly disappointing. Design and ui are a personal opinion but I think m9 is better.
Go with whatever you like tbh and I hope whichever phone you choose you have a great experience
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This thread is unnecessary. The M9 is a major fail

ingenious247 said:
This thread is unnecessary. The M9 is a major fail
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I think that's a bit harsh. My only gripe with the phone is the camera.

ledvedder said:
I think that's a bit harsh. My only gripe with the phone is the camera.
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Only Gripe? Having a camera THAT bad is a HUGE fail on HTC's part, when the biggest weakness they've had since the M7 fiasco was their camera
All they had to do to save their company was fix their camera and put a 2K screen in their new flagship.
Instead, they did neither. I predict either a buyout from Samsung to grab patents or HTC simply going out of business in a year.

ingenious247 said:
Only Gripe? Having a camera THAT bad is a HUGE fail on HTC's part, when the biggest weakness they've had since the M7 fiasco was their camera
All they had to do to save their company was fix their camera and put a 2K screen in their new flagship.
Instead, they did neither. I predict either a buyout from Samsung to grab patents or HTC simply going out of business in a year.
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Screen is a moot point no real difference with 1080p its just a numbers game tbh. iPhone 6 has a lower resolution screen and funnily enough it also looks fine.

Thank god they didn't put a 2k display and the camera isn't an epic fail. They haven't pushed the sensor to what it is capable of. Also manual control says a different story. I doubt they are going bust this year and I think they would rather die then sell themselves to Samsung. I do hope they do get bought by another respectable company so they can be in a better position. They just need more money in R&D and marketing.
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Personal Note to Andy Android...

Sir - you have 15 days from the date of receipt of my phone (business days) to make that much-touted camera work like it should. Otherwise, I, like the rest of my early-adopter brethren, will be RMA'ing these phones in record numbers. You have been warned.
UPDATE: I have asked for and received an RMA box (headed my way). The only reason wasn't the camera, but it was the major one. The B&W camera alone is pretty awesome. If I felt I could trust Essential to make fixing the camera a top priority, I'd probably keep it and wait, but after careful consideration, I can always get 100% of my dough back now, and if I see they have made the camera function to the flagship level, I will re-buy at a later time. I want to love it just like everyone else... but $749 out of pocket sitting in a box waiting... not my style.

rootdude said:
Sir - you have 15 days from the date of receipt of my phone (business days) to make that much-touted camera work like it should. Otherwise, I, like the rest of my early-adopter brethren, will be RMA'ing these phones in record numbers. You have been warned.
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Meh, camera isn't a deal breaker for me and I imagine it's the same for some others.
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rootdude said:
Sir - you have 15 days from the date of receipt of my phone (business days) to make that much-touted camera work like it should. Otherwise, I, like the rest of my early-adopter brethren, will be RMA'ing these phones in record numbers. You have been warned.
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Wow.. Dont put words in my mouth. He doesnt speak for me Andy.
Just return it day 1 and go get something else.
Side note; am wondering if they might be pretty dialed in on user feedback for updates. Not counting on it, but since they're small and it runs stock, it might be pretty quick to get fixes.
Full disclosure : I have not orfered a device yet, and am looking closely at this one and the Nokia 8.

I hope they release an awesome update for the camera. On day 16.

skw5115 said:
Meh, camera isn't a deal breaker for me and I imagine it's the same for some others.
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Yep same here. Camera is down on my list of priorities.

charlatan01 said:
Wow.. Dont put words in my mouth. He doesnt speak for me Andy.
Just return it day 1 and go get something else.
Side note; am wondering if they might be pretty dialed in on user feedback for updates. Not counting on it, but since they're small and it runs stock, it might be pretty quick to get fixes.
Full disclosure : I have not orfered a device yet, and am looking closely at this one and the Nokia 8.
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I want the Nokia 8 more than the ph-1 but don't know when or if it will come to the US. So I ordered the ph-1
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ack154 said:
I hope they release an awesome update for the camera. On day 16.
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This!
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bricky23 said:
I want the Nokia 8 more than the ph-1 but don't know when or if it will come to the US. So I ordered the ph-1
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Thats what clove is for ?. Im not interested in waiting for the 9, or whatever the US version might be. The nicest feature of the essential is the screen to form factor ratio.

I can't believe people make their phone purchase decisions solely on camera performance and shipping time. It's a daily use device that you'll own for at least a year. You should look at the bigger picture. Case in point is the phone camera. Its not like people are post-processing RAW images at home. They just want a colorful, saturated image that "pops".

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This!
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He can always buy the phone again if that's the case [emoji16]
It's not like some update comes after he returns the phone which makes it the best camera and he can't buy the phone again.

Kay1000RR said:
I can't believe people make their phone purchase decisions solely on camera performance and shipping time. It's a daily use device that you'll own for at least a year. You should look at the bigger picture. Case in point is the phone camera. Its not like people are post-processing RAW images at home. They just want a colorful, saturated image that "pops".
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Exactly. Some are cancelling because they didn't get the FedEx tracking today. LOL!
I have the Sony XA that uses the same sensor as the PH-1 so the photo quality to me is good enough for quick shots. Having the monochrome to improve the photo is a bonus. For anything else, I use my pocketable Sony RX-100 M4 anyway or DSLR for more serious photography.

LastQuark said:
Exactly. Some are cancelling because they didn't get the FedEx tracking today. LOL!
I have the Sony XA that uses the same sensor as the PH-1 so the photo quality to me is good enough for quick shots. Having the monochrome to improve the photo is a bonus. For anything else, I use my pocketable Sony RX-100 M4 anyway or DSLR for more serious photography.
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My problem is not the shipping delay, but the pure lack of any communication.
Now, the camera is not and has never been a deal breaker for me.
I have a Samsung NX300 as my throw around. I keep it in the backpack or in the car.
For serious stuff I have a Canon 7D and a 7D MkII.
The camera on a phone is a last resort and mostly for product pics for things I don't want to forget.

Kay1000RR said:
I can't believe people make their phone purchase decisions solely on camera performance and shipping time. It's a daily use device that you'll own for at least a year. You should look at the bigger picture. Case in point is the phone camera. Its not like people are post-processing RAW images at home. They just want a colorful, saturated image that "pops".
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I passed on the phone specifically for this reason. I have a great camera on my Pixel. But we recently had a baby and there's no way I'm getting a kinda crappy camera on my phone while she's growing up. Sure, a good DSLR will outperform even my Pixel but as the old photographer's saying goes, "The best camera is the one you have on you." And that means my phone the far majority of the time.
Before our little one, I didn't care at all about camera quality. But now it's incredibly important, if not one of the most important things.
I'm not trying to change your mind or convince you of anything. Just giving you some perspective on why some, or at least I, will be passing on this phone. I can either get another great phone with a great camera (or keep my Pixel) so I can photograph more precious moments with my daughter, or I can get a phone with a mediocre camera and miss some of those precious moments. That's worth passing on this phone to me. None of the other issues with this phone are a problem for me, but the camera is a deal breaker.

Looks to me like Andy Android has been paying attention. According to Android Central, Essential has dropped THREE updates focused on camera refinements and the pictures they posted today look a damn shot better than they did at first. Clearly. there is a ton of work they can do to improve the post processing through software, so I'm going to give it a long, strong chance to make the cut before I have to return it. I'm a black and white buff since I was in HS, and I really wanted the P10 just because of the dedicated sensor... but I also wanted premium materials... so if this phone can aesthetically hit the right notes and take damn good pics while doing it, I may be selling my full on Sammy Gear Collection and going with this one as daily driver. I'm hopeful now at least. Been waiting for a clean beast like this for ages. Am I climbing back on the bandwagon?

You don't speak for everyone, I will infact be keeping this phone. The camera is the very last thing I consider when purchasing a phone.

It's called a personal note for a reason - I wouldn't choose to speak for you if you paid me. Maybe you can get one of those cameraless flip phones sounds like that's more your speed.

bricky23 said:
I want the Nokia 8 more than the ph-1 but don't know when or if it will come to the US. So I ordered the ph-1
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Doesn't the Nokia 8 have the same sensor as the Essential?
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markwebb said:
Doesn't the Nokia 8 have the same sensor as the Essential?
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Yes but the 8 has OIS so it performs better
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rootdude said:
It's called a personal note for a reason - I wouldn't choose to speak for you if you paid me. Maybe you can get one of those cameraless flip phones sounds like that's more your speed.
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I am an early adopter and you literally said we will all be RMA'ing this phone if there isnt a camera fix in 15 days. That is in fact speaking for more than just yourself.

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I hope they release an awesome update for the camera. On day 16.
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Yup!

To all the OP6 owners, need answers

I have a OnePlus 3T 6/64, using it for like 11 moths or so.
Want to upgrade to a OnesPlus 6 Lava Red 8+128 that I've seen used for like 300€.
Wanna ask, things like camera(I know it's great, not best but decent), performance(amazing), screen(compared to my 3T maybe not a lot of difference?), battery(also, I get with my 3T 50% brigthness 3.10h SOT, I've used a MI5 and 2.45h so moderate-hi usage), speaker(3t is meh, 6 maybe a lil better?)... Just wanna see what people says, or compared to a 5/5T but wanna know if I'm going to notice a difference, wanna use the 6 for at least a complete year.
Battery is a priority, I need at least 4.30h SoT with a daytime visible brightness. Can't get a 6T or 7, just have 300€ and I want AMOLED and a 835 at least, I've seen Xiaomi alternatives(Mi8) but I'd rather OP, any suggestion?I will be happy with a OP6? Thanks!

I'm a oneplus user since OP3, & i actually use OP6 (8/128) and I will definitely recommend you to get it.
Compared to the OP5T, I feel more comfortable using this larger screen, I get more SOT @50% brightness (~6,5H music, social networking, mailing & some PUBG), a little bit better camera quality (even if the OP5T is already good at video recording & image stabilisation), and the performances are just great.
If u get one at the 300€ price including the genuine dash charger, then it's a great deal

Definitely get it. You will not be disappointed. Some people get 8 hours s.o.t. but that's usually not very realistic-at least not without major kernel modifications. Most of the reason is, though the screen is excellent, it's large and that's where most of your power is lost. I don't think you'll get 10 hours. But in almost every other respect, you'll be floored with it!

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I'm a oneplus user since OP3, & i actually use OP6 (8/128) and I will definitely recommend you to get it.
Compared to the OP5T, I feel more comfortable using this larger screen, I get more SOT @50% brightness (~6,5H music, social networking, mailing & some PUBG), a little bit better camera quality (even if the OP5T is already good at video recording & image stabilisation), and the performances are just great.
If u get one at the 300€ price including the genuine dash charger, then it's a great deal
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I've used a One and my 3T, was worried about all that things, If I can get at least 4:30h sot, I'll be happy and yes, everything included, dash charger, box... Thanks!

thejase said:
Definitely get it. You will not be disappointed. Some people get 8 hours s.o.t. but that's usually not very realistic-at least not without major kernel modifications. Most of the reason is, though the screen is excellent, it's large and that's where most of your power is lost. I don't think you'll get 10 hours. But in almost every other respect, you'll be floored with it!
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So excited to get it, I will play PUBG, Asphalt 9 and everything I want, I will get a decent battery to get the full day, a great camera with almost(or) pixel 3 quality...I'm loving all the reviews I'm seeing

NoobOver9000 said:
So excited to get it, I will play PUBG, Asphalt 9 and everything I want, I will get a decent battery to get the full day, a great camera with almost(or) pixel 3 quality...I'm loving all the reviews I'm seeing
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Remember to use a GCam port to really get good pictures !

yeah this will be my first OnePlus device.. I wanted to get one before but was on Verizon before and knew it wasn't compatible.. but now that we are with TMobile i'm gonna give it a shot! I know the camera reviews seem to show its very decent (especially at the price point) and I'm pleased with the sample pictures i've seen on youtube... I have seen some of the reviews about using GCAM instead of the stock camera.. i'm just concerned about having 2 camera apps on the phone and if apps could be confused with it..
I do know the Speaker is pretty weak.. so i'm curious to hear how "bad" it really is.. hopefully its still acceptable to use..
I can't wait to see how well it runs FORTNITE... My pixels has some good moments.. but others its a DOG... so with GAMING MODE and larger screen and 8gig ram.. i'm hoping its a beast!

Jaws4God said:
yeah this will be my first OnePlus device.. I wanted to get one before but was on Verizon before and knew it wasn't compatible.. but now that we are with TMobile i'm gonna give it a shot! I know the camera reviews seem to show its very decent (especially at the price point) and I'm pleased with the sample pictures i've seen on youtube... I have seen some of the reviews about using GCAM instead of the stock camera.. i'm just concerned about having 2 camera apps on the phone and if apps could be confused with it..
I do know the Speaker is pretty weak.. so i'm curious to hear how "bad" it really is.. hopefully its still acceptable to use..
I can't wait to see how well it runs FORTNITE... My pixels has some good moments.. but others its a DOG... so with GAMING MODE and larger screen and 8gig ram.. i'm hoping its a beast!
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Fortnite 30fps max stable, maybe even 60?
Spealer meh but i don't think it's worse than 3t, will test it this week (there are some oneplus 6 at fnac) and camera use gcam and you'll have almost exact pixel 3 experience. Just intall it and use it, forget the other one unless you need manual mode or better video stabilization

If youre not picky with photo, go for it. Like said already above, dont forget install Gcam...

Regarding the speaker. If you want to root anyways you can also install the dual speaker mod and viper4android for speaker optimization. Got it installed several months and it improves the sound a lot. Often only by playing sound through the earspeaker while I accidentally cover the main speaker.
For me camera quality is poor, I'm coming from a Nokia 8 which has a way better camera quality... Well it seems like you can't have it all at this price point.

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Fortnite 30fps max stable, maybe even 60?
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I left it on the settings it did when I first installed the game on the OP6.. which was 30fps / epic graphics / 75% 3d graphics.. and it looks so amazing and runs so smoothe and fast compared to my Pixel.. (20fps / low graphics / 50% 3d graphics)
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Spealer meh but i don't think it's worse than 3t, will test it this week (there are some oneplus 6 at fnac)
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yeah I listened to the speaker a few times and i'm not that displeased with it.. It is VERY easy to cover an severely mute.. but since I use a case.. I just dremel out the inside of the connector between the hole for the speaker and the hole for the USB.. so the sound can pass through there if I block the hole for the speaker.. makes it work much better.
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and camera use gcam and you'll have almost exact pixel 3 experience. Just intall it and use it, forget the other one unless you need manual mode or better video stabilization
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yeah i played around with it some last night.. trying to use portrait mode.. and it was OK but definitely didn't WOW me like some of the pictures i'd get with my OG PIXEL..
So if you install the GCAM, will it replace the stock camera or just have 2 cameras in the app list? can you set the GCAM as primary so even when using the double tap power or lockscreen swipe to camera, it would open GCAM?
Thank you!

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I left it on the settings it did when I first installed the game on the OP6.. which was 30fps / epic graphics / 75% 3d graphics.. and it looks so amazing and runs so smoothe and fast compared to my Pixel.. (20fps / low graphics / 50% 3d graphics)
yeah I listened to the speaker a few times and i'm not that displeased with it.. It is VERY easy to cover an severely mute.. but since I use a case.. I just dremel out the inside of the connector between the hole for the speaker and the hole for the USB.. so the sound can pass through there if I block the hole for the speaker.. makes it work much better.
yeah i played around with it some last night.. trying to use portrait mode.. and it was OK but definitely didn't WOW me like some of the pictures i'd get with my OG PIXEL..
So if you install the GCAM, will it replace the stock camera or just have 2 cameras in the app list? can you set the GCAM as primary so even when using the double tap power or lockscreen swipe to camera, it would open GCAM?
Thank you!
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2 separate apps, your camera and gcam, it's better at hdr+ enhanced and night sight, you will notice a lot of difference compared to stock. Also don't forget to tweak the camera settings

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Also don't forget to tweak the camera settings
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what do you mean?

Dude OnePlus 7 is almost here, just go brand new. You don't know how the previous owner treated their device.
Burn-in on oled?
Needs new battery?
Possible water damage?
Non-OEM quality replacement parts or repairs?
Don't do it man, just go new

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what do you mean?
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See configs, I recommend Aranova gcam

dgunn said:
Dude OnePlus 7 is almost here, just go brand new. You don't know how the previous owner treated their device.
Burn-in on oled?
Needs new battery?
Possible water damage?
Non-OEM quality replacement parts or repairs?
Don't do it man, just go new
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I only have 300$, I'm a 16 years old kid, so I can't get more unless I find a job, going to search for a moth or so and If I don't get a job, will probably buy a used op6 meeting with the guy who sells It and test it

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I only have 300$, I'm a 16 years old kid, so I can't get more unless I find a job, going to search for a moth or so and If I don't get a job, will probably buy a used op6 meeting with the guy who sells It and test it
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The OP6 is probably the last decent phone OnePlus will ever make. They have gone the direction of all big phone makers now, bloatware, removal of headphone jacks, caving into whatever the carriers want them to do. I would get one while you can. I picked mine up used from Swappa and am glad I did.

electroblood said:
The OP6 is probably the last decent phone OnePlus will ever make. They have gone the direction of all big phone makers now, bloatware, removal of headphone jacks, caving into whatever the carriers want them to do. I would get one while you can. I picked mine up used from Swappa and am glad I did.
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i'm in the same boat.. yeah the OnePlus 6T does have a little better camera and smaller notch.. but no headphone jack was an issue for me.. and now with the 7 going with a pop up camera.. i'd be nervous about motor failure...
so I grabbed a OnePlus 6 and so glad I did

One Plus 6 all the way. I got one of the last ones available online from their web site...black with 8 gigs ram and 256 gigs storage. I saw a tear down on YouTube and it appears to be one of the easiest phones to replace the battery if needed. So I plan on keeping mine for a long, long time!