[HELP] UnRooted S5 Still Wont Update - General Questions and Answers

I recently rooted my phone yesterday actually with towelroot by just flashing to the ncg kernel stock then rooting then back up to the NK2 kernel stock. My phone wont update to the new Lolipop update with root so i unrooted by simpily using the SU app and it claims my phone is unrooted but when i try to update the OTA it downloads and reboots my phone syas its ready to install then it says no changes were made cannot install update at this time or something like that.

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[Resolved] [Q] update failed

ok so i am rooted and i downloaded the firmware yesterday night before work. today i tried intalling the firmware update ota and it just reboted to the android with the red triangle. so i turned it off and back on and it said updatefailed....
where do i find the firmware update that was downloaded? and how do i make the update work? do i have to change the build.prop to the original one and all other files i changed? and do i use voodoo ota root keeper to temp unroot and then do the update?
ok got it rooted again. used debugfsroot
i managed to update using the download on the asus website nut now i have lost root and voodoo wont restore it. i tried sparkyroot.apk and it finds the exploit but then i back up an app and when i return it still asks me to back up an app. anyone know how to re root?

[Q] Cannot Update to New OTA VRALHE

Ok, I am running a stock rom rooted with no frozen apps. When the OTA tries to install it fails and when I try to use Kies the message " Your device does not support the update of Software via Kies" or something to that effect. I have never unlocked the bootloader, flash roms, or installed custom recovery on the device. Could I possible use OTA rootkeeper to unroot then check to see if the OTA will download and install? If that does work would I be able to restore the root? I don't guess I really need the new OTA but I want to be able to get JB when it comes out without any issues. Just as an added not it is currently running VRALG7...
Nebreos said:
Ok, I am running a stock rom rooted with no frozen apps. When the OTA tries to install it fails and when I try to use Kies the message " Your device does not support the update of Software via Kies" or something to that effect. I have never unlocked the bootloader, flash roms, or installed custom recovery on the device. Could I possible use OTA rootkeeper to unroot then check to see if the OTA will download and install? If that does work would I be able to restore the root? I don't guess I really need the new OTA but I want to be able to get JB when it comes out without any issues. Just as an added not it is currently running VRALG7...
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Same happend to me. I had to unroot downgrade from the HD to G7 or G1. Then i could do the update to HE.

[Q] Trying to install 4.3 OTA

My phone is rooted, and has TWRP custom recovery installed.
The phone automatically downloaded the OTA, and tried to install it. With TWRP, the update failed and my phone is working fine now.
I don't need the rooting anymore (was for teetering, but with new data plan it's now included). So I'm okay with losing the root and all.
Using SuperSU I deselected the rooting, and after reboot RootCheck tells me my phone is not rooted. I still have TWRP installed.
Now, I'm stock MF1/ 4.1.2. How do I install the 4.3 update and remove the TWRP recovery? I found in another thread the 4.3 Tar file. Do I simply use Odin on my PC and flash it on my phone? What about TWRP?
airtrons said:
My phone is rooted, and has TWRP custom recovery installed.
The phone automatically downloaded the OTA, and tried to install it. With TWRP, the update failed and my phone is working fine now.
I don't need the rooting anymore (was for teetering, but with new data plan it's now included). So I'm okay with losing the root and all.
Using SuperSU I deselected the rooting, and after reboot RootCheck tells me my phone is not rooted. I still have TWRP installed.
Now, I'm stock MF1/ 4.1.2. How do I install the 4.3 update and remove the TWRP recovery? I found in another thread the 4.3 Tar file. Do I simply use Odin on my PC and flash it on my phone? What about TWRP?
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Are you sure you want the 4.3, this latest rom will lock your bootloader permanently, meaning you will NOT able to install CWM,TWRP, custom rom/kernel or downgrade the OS to the early version. The only thing you can do once updated is root. If you still decided to upgrade, just Odin the full rom MF1 here http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23134718111254196 then after bootup your OS should auto update to the latest (OTA).
airtrons said:
My phone is rooted, and has TWRP custom recovery installed.
The phone automatically downloaded the OTA, and tried to install it. With TWRP, the update failed and my phone is working fine now.
I don't need the rooting anymore (was for teetering, but with new data plan it's now included). So I'm okay with losing the root and all.
Using SuperSU I deselected the rooting, and after reboot RootCheck tells me my phone is not rooted. I still have TWRP installed.
Now, I'm stock MF1/ 4.1.2. How do I install the 4.3 update and remove the TWRP recovery? I found in another thread the 4.3 Tar file. Do I simply use Odin on my PC and flash it on my phone? What about TWRP?
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I had the same question myself, and have been proverbially "running around in circles" today (instead of working). Anybody have success flashing said Odin file and then upgrading via the OTA?
Ha! I came from a mytouch3g years ago, flashing incessantly. I got this phone so i could stop. Then rooted to take the ads away, and got a bit more than I bargained for... now I just want back on OTA stock.
Thanks for any suggestions.
Cheers
Kevvy1066 said:
I had the same question myself, and have been proverbially "running around in circles" today (instead of working). Anybody have success flashing said Odin file and then upgrading via the OTA?
Ha! I came from a mytouch3g years ago, flashing incessantly. I got this phone so i could stop. Then rooted to take the ads away, and got a bit more than I bargained for... now I just want back on OTA stock.
Thanks for any suggestions.
Cheers
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if you download this full firmware http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23134718111254196 unzip the file then use Odin to flash, this will bring you back to pure stock rom with stock recovery (no more twrp/cwm). After this you will be prompt for OTA and just take the upgrade. Once done you should be on the latest factory 4.3 with locked bootloader.
I ended up downloading the 4.3 files from another post here, and flashing it with Odin. Worked fine.
Of course, without a root, can't recover my apps from Titanium but oh well.
airtrons said:
I ended up downloading the 4.3 files from another post here, and flashing it with Odin. Worked fine.
Of course, without a root, can't recover my apps from Titanium but oh well.
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Why don't you just root with saferoot found here?http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
I wish I would have found this thread before starting my own... woops. Anyway I would like to install 4.3 and I too rooted with twrp. I don't care anymore if I am rooted or not. I stopped flashing roms and such a while back and will be upgrading this next year to the s5 most likely.
Is there a way to install 4.3 w/out removing root? If not, since I never used odin, and used twrp what steps do/should I take to get back to where I can install 4.3?
Thank you.
Sithlyone said:
I wish I would have found this thread before starting my own... woops. Anyway I would like to install 4.3 and I too rooted with twrp. I don't care anymore if I am rooted or not. I stopped flashing roms and such a while back and will be upgrading this next year to the s5 most likely.
Is there a way to install 4.3 w/out removing root? If not, since I never used odin, and used twrp what steps do/should I take to get back to where I can install 4.3?
Thank you.
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Since your life is too busy and you don't want to mess with your phone anymore, your best bet is go back to stock 4.3 which is very good by the way, very stable, smooth and bug free. After so many complaints from my wife I rolled it back to stock 4.3 and she's so happy now.
1. Flash stock MF1 here http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23134718111254196 , just unzip the flash with Odin
2. Your phone should take the 4.3 OTA update and you're home free.

Used S5 rooted KK

Just picked up a used S5 that was already rooted running KK, not sure of the root method used. Looking to upgrade to Lollipop but obviously can't take the OTA, used unroot in SU and the OTA says it's been modified and won't take it. How do I update it to lollipop and still keep my data?
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Just picked up a used S5 that was already rooted running KK, not sure of the root method used. Looking to upgrade to Lollipop but obviously can't take the OTA, used unroot in SU and the OTA says it's been modified and won't take it. How do I update it to lollipop and still keep my data?
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You unrooted but you may still have a custom recovery. That will prevent the OTA update. Without more info it is hard to tell you the right way to go. I would backup what you have first. Do a nandroid. I would backup apps and data with Titanium Backup (but you can't since you already unrooted).
I had a Note3 that was rooted, slightly modified and then unrooted. I was able to get it back to stock and updated using Kies. Not sure if that will work for you in this case.
gottria said:
Just picked up a used S5 that was already rooted running KK, not sure of the root method used. Looking to upgrade to Lollipop but obviously can't take the OTA, used unroot in SU and the OTA says it's been modified and won't take it. How do I update it to lollipop and still keep my data?
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You could try Triangle Away but I'm not sure that would work. The best way would be to put the phone into download mode, and then use Odin to go to the stock OA6 Lollipop build, but this would cause you to lose all your data. You could also re-root, titanium backup / sms backup and restore, then once you Odin to Lollipop you can restore all your old apps and data as well as text messages.
So I can jump right to the stock OA6 lollipop odin with no issues? At this point I have all my stuff backed up and don't care about what's left on the phone, wipe it clean and start fresh is what I'm thinking. My plain is to odin the stock OA6 build, root using chainfire and hotspot mod.
Go for it. That should work. Use Odin to load the full tar of oa6 and then root it.

can i update a rooted device?

my device is currently rooted and i just recieved an update from samsung. i am using a super kernel v1.4 and i would like to update to the lastest version which requires this update from samsung. can i update my device ota or must i download the firmware from sammobile and reflash everything then install everything else again. if i am able to update the phonr ota can i also just flash the new kernel to replace the old one? i want a clean install.
OTA won't work on a custom device (Rooted / Kernel / Recovery), I'm surprised you even got the notification for an update tbh
You'll have to update manually when the firmware arrives as a flashable ROM

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