Ampere - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Is this the normal current that I'd meant to be drawn when not plugged in. My friends is only 100ma....
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dec1153 said:
Is this the normal current that I'd meant to be drawn when not plugged in. My friends is only 100ma....
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I've seen that before. If you have your CPU running high with the screen on it can do that. It depends on what is running. If you're getting crappy battery life post to the battery sticky thread after reading the first 4 posts.

dec1153 said:
Is this the normal current that I'd meant to be drawn when not plugged in. My friends is only 100ma....
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It all depends on what's running. What app is that? I'd like to check mine and compare it.

_MetalHead_ said:
It all depends on what's running. What app is that? I'd like to check mine and compare it.
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Ampere. Thanks, could you tell me yours?
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I just looked for Ampere and couldn't find it. Can you provide me a link please?
Edit: NM, found it but it's Lollipop only and I'm on KitKat.

_MetalHead_ said:
I just looked for Ampere and couldn't find it. Can you provide me a link please?
Edit: NM, found it but it's Lollipop only and I'm on KitKat.
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There is a battery widget app which would do the same thing.
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Gsam reports it too..... Just not min and max numbers. I'm on the current current! ?

It jumps allover, depends on drainage as it's changed

Here. I cranked my brightness all the way up too just to see how high it will go. There was nothing running on my N5 when I checked.

_MetalHead_ said:
Here. I cranked my brightness all the way up too just to see how high it will go. There was nothing running on my N5 when I checked.
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Turn on a background video and game or something then try again. Lol.
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Hi, Im not sure how accurate the app is. I tested it while charging my power bank which outputs 1amp. The app is saying in is receiving 100ma....is that correct?
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dec1153 said:
Hi, Im not sure how accurate the app is. I tested it while charging my power bank which outputs 1amp. The app is saying in is receiving 100ma....is that correct?
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1A would be 1000mA.
I've shared results regarding this before. Here were my findings from a previous post:
Basically the idle current draw numbers are not being recorded accurately. As far as I can tell, when the phone is sleeping and needs to wake itself to check the current draw there is a spike in power usage at that time meaning the true sleep power usage is never shown.
In my graph you can see roughly 5 hours of idle with the occasional spike for a notification. It's important to note that the refresh time for Current Widget was set to 5 seconds, but because the phone was trying to sleep it would only wake itself to poll at random.
After that is a period of music listening with the screen off. Here we can see consistently less power usage than before during deep sleep. Is it possible that the phone uses less power listening to music than it does when it's asleep? Even with DSP audio tunneling that would be extremely unlikely.
After that is various forms of screen usage with idle time in between. Note how the minimal usage numbers are the same as was reported during the phone's deep sleep. Unless we're willing to concede that the phone uses the same minimum power with the screen on as it does with the screen off, we should conclude that the deep sleep readings are not being reported correctly.

bblzd said:
1A would be 1000mA.
I've shared results regarding this before. Here were my findings from a previous post:
Basically the idle current draw numbers are not being recorded accurately. As far as I can tell, when the phone is sleeping and needs to wake itself to check the current draw there is a spike in power usage at that time meaning the true sleep power usage is never shown.
In my graph you can see roughly 5 hours of idle with the occasional spike for a notification. It's important to note that the refresh time for Current Widget was set to 5 seconds, but because the phone was trying to sleep it would only wake itself to poll at random.
After that is a period of music listening with the screen off. Here we can see consistently less power usage than before during deep sleep. Is it possible that the phone uses less power listening to music than it does when it's asleep? Even with DSP audio tunneling that would be extremely unlikely.
After that is various forms of screen usage with idle time in between. Note how the minimal usage numbers are the same as was reported during the phone's deep sleep. Unless we're willing to concede that the phone uses the same minimum power with the screen on as it does with the screen off, we should conclude that the deep sleep readings are not being reported correctly.
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Thanks for the info! I think the app may be very inaccurate..... Charging with my normal charger it says it is outputting 500ma when it should be 1200ma. Can anyone confirm this?
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My n5 charged, according to gsam, around 700 to 1100, depending on the cable and charger I used, and what I had running on the device. (CPU load)
500 might be due to the cable or charger... But it should still be more than enough to charge your phone. Just a bit slower is all.

dec1153 said:
Thanks for the info! I think the app may be very inaccurate..... Charging with my normal charger it says it is outputting 500ma when it should be 1200ma. Can anyone confirm this?
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It shows my charging speeds properly actually. Up to 1700mA with my 1.8A Blackberry charger. I think it's just not accurate to measure deep sleep measurements.
Sounds like you're being limited to USB speeds which is 500mA. This is common when using chargers or USB cords designed for Apple devices, or if you are actually using USB for charging. It should say Charging AC and not Charging USB to get normal charge speeds of 1200mA.

bblzd said:
It shows my charging speeds properly actually. Up to 1700mA with my 1.8A Blackberry charger. I think it's just not accurate to measure deep sleep measurements.
Sounds like you're being limited to USB speeds which is 500mA. This is common when using chargers or USB cords designed for Apple devices, or if you are actually using USB for charging. It should say Charging AC and not Charging USB to get normal charge speeds of 1200mA.
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Hi, thanks for the info. Its a bit strange because I am not using any other charger. I am using the one that came with my nexus 5. Perhaps it was a one off fluke reading....I'll test again.
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dec1153 said:
Hi, thanks for the info. Its a bit strange because I am not using any other charger. I am using the one that came with my nexus 5. Perhaps it was a one off fluke reading....I'll test again.
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Hi, just tested and the Max MA I can get is 900ma when theoretically I should be getting 1200ma from my charger. Does this mean I have a inefficient charger?
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dec1153 said:
Hi, just tested and the Max MA I can get is 900ma when theoretically I should be getting 1200ma from my charger. Does this mean I have a inefficient charger?
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I don't think so. The difference is what is being used by your phone, so you probably just have high background drain.

bblzd said:
I don't think so. The difference is what is being used by your phone, so you probably just have high background drain.
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Alright thanks!
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Captivate worst battery life nightmare

I have serendipity rom and I unplugged my phone at 9.30am this morning with fully charged now its 4pm I have 11% left? And I went on about phone-battery it said. Display 93% , phone idle 4% , voice calls 3% and I have my brightness to the lowest. Can anyone suggest why it dies so quick?
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How much screen time?
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Unplugged at 8am and now it's 4pm and I'm at 51%. Rebooted once so the battery numbers are not correct.
More information would be helpful.
What widgets do you use?
What apps remain open in the background?
How much screen time was there?
Are you in a low-signal area?
Do you leave BT/Wifi/GPS on?
I usually have 40-70% at the end of my workday (5pm) with pretty decent usage - I unplug at 11pm.
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More information would be helpful.
What widgets do you use?
What apps remain open in the background?
How much screen time was there?
Are you in a low-signal area?
Do you leave BT/Wifi/GPS on?
I usually have 40-70% at the end of my workday (5pm) with pretty decent usage - I unplug at 11pm.
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Only using the power control widget.
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For what it's worth----my wife and I each have a captivate and I have two spare "after market" batteries. I've never checked my wife's battery usage since she rarely does anything with it besides taking/receiving maybe 6-10 calls a day. She charges it every night and it's never run completely down so I haven't changed the battery. In my case, the battery that came with the unit is usually down to 20-30% after eight hours. One of the after-market batteries won't make it for more than 6 hours. The second after-market battery usually has 50-60% remaining at the end of the day. I usually replace the batteries every night and charge the replaced battery with a wall charger over night. I know there are lots of variables involved, but there is no doubt in my mind that there is tremendous variation between these three batteries. I'm running on andromeda 1.2 and on weekends I disable most everything except the phone and, on the best battery, the captivate will idle along for at least 48 hours. I also suspect there may be as much, or more, variability between ROMs.
Where can I get those batteries? Ya I just got the phone 2 days ago over iphone 4
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Got 'em on ebay. I think they are of Chinese origin but I just took pot luck because I wanted a spare in my brief case for emergency use.
FishDoc said:
Got 'em on ebay. I think they are of Chinese origin but I just took pot luck because I wanted a spare in my brief case for emergency use.
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Is it possible to pm the link? Cause im close to returning it
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rockingx10 said:
Is it possible to pm the link? Cause im close to returning it
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Turn off gps, wifi, task killers, etc.
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@fishdoc were the two after market batteries the same and from the same seller on ebay? Or were they different batteries?
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Check services too... I found out that Win Amp was using all my battery trying to do wifi sync when I didn't ever use that function.
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Get Juice Defender. It has extended my battery life from 5-7 hours to 24+ hours. It disables your radios while the phone is off, but turns them back on ever 15 or 30 minutes to get data pushed to all of your active services.
Can we go with the obvious and have you calibrate your battery first?

Charging while off

I can't stand how when you turn off the phone and charge it the display just shows a battery charging... but gives you no idea about how far the phone has actually charged. Anyway to change that?
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phantasybm said:
I can't stand how when you turn off the phone and charge it the display just shows a battery charging... but gives you no idea about how far the phone has actually charged. Anyway to change that?
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Don't think so. The animation will stop and just show a full battery though when it is done.
phantasybm said:
I can't stand how when you turn off the phone and charge it the display just shows a battery charging... but gives you no idea about how far the phone has actually charged. Anyway to change that?
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I have no idea what you mean. The battery image while off shows the approximate charged amount, although it only shows every 20% or so.
Yeah, it stays on where it is charged for a little bit longer.
Hmm maybe I just saw it wrong... I swear it just looked like a typical charge but with no indication of where it was. Im just used to my galaxy s that showed only how far it was charged I guess
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phantasybm said:
Hmm maybe I just saw it wrong... I swear it just looked like a typical charge but with no indication of where it was. Im just used to my galaxy s that showed only how far it was charged I guess
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I think I see your confusion. Whether the phone is on or off, the charging animation will start with the current percentage, then increase to 100%, and repeat.

Infuse battery extremely hot???

I've been using it for ten minutes on the charger and for some reason the screen brigntness was low. So I went to the settings and it says "to avoid overheating maximum brightness has been reduced".. and my temperature is 47 degrees now. Anyone elses phone getting hot?
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This used to happen with my Samsung Vibrant 4g... i believe you could burn the phone if it continues, it might be a factory issue.
Same here, charging on the wall charger with screen off, it hit 47c and won't go to max brightness.
I've also jist noticed after 50% the charging time decreases significantly. I went from 50% to 90% in 45 min
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Mine got hot and I lost all service. It was up to about 93% charge and it just lost all cellular service. I had it rooted but didnt carrier unlock it. Got a replacement phone this morning and Im leaving it alone to see how it does while charging. With the long charge times this could be an issue. Not everyone can let a device set and not mess with it for 3-4 hours, lol I know I cant.
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Technically I don't think you are supposed to be using your phone while on the charger... This happens to all phones just some heat up faster than others.... My old ATT Startac did that, SE W900, Captivate, and this one.
It really kills the life of the battery too as well. Nature of the beast....
big99gt said:
Mine got hot and I lost all service. It was up to about 93% charge and it just lost all cellular service. I had it rooted but didnt carrier unlock it. Got a replacement phone this morning and Im leaving it alone to see how it does while charging. With the long charge times this could be an issue. Not everyone can let a device set and not mess with it for 3-4 hours, lol I know I cant.
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How is it working now
DVA4890 said:
How is it working now
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Had to get a new one but so far so good, 95 degrees F while charging.
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Just an update, charged past 50% on the new phone and its picking up speed and charging much faster. Temp is steady at 87F. Seems like I really just had a bad unit because the other phone got up to 116F just charging with the screen off.
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[Q] Over heating when charging

hey i got a huge problem. when i plug my g2x into charger to charge the phone gets very hot around the camera area and it gets hot when i plug into computer to. Any solutions?
Are you using faux's kernel?
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What rom/kernel are you using? Also, are you overclocking?
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It`s normal. My phone`s battery also heats up, when I charge it. Maybe it`s because of overclocking.
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Bionix Reloaded
theking_13 said:
What rom/kernel are you using? Also, are you overclocking?
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Im using bionex reloaded and the kernal that it comes with. i assume its the oem lg battery cause right now im using my phone with extended battery and it works perfectly. ps my oem battery stopped working this morning and no longer turns my phone on
Check mark "stay awake while charging" option in settings. Then just power screen off the screen, it won't get hot.
cricketAC said:
Check mark "stay awake while charging" option in settings. Then just power screen off the screen, it won't get hot.
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I hear this said every single time and I don't know if it works for some people but it never does for me.
The only solution I've found is to underclock your phone to around 600MHz (whatever your step around there is). This can be easily done with setcpu when you create a charging profile.
My phone used to overheat overnight and I'd wake up to a hot and dead phone. Since doing this I never get a hot phone and almost never wake up to a black screen (meaning my alarms will actually go off).
This is on stock battery.
I have had this problem also what worked for me is turning off wifi. Stock battery
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nexus 5 battery level going up !!

Hi all
Just noticed on my nexus 5 if i use it for a while obviously the battery level goes down, but then if i look a bit later its gone back up!
for example i was on my lunch and used nexus for a while, checked battery it was on 61%, then an hour later i checked and it was on 63% ??
When i looked at the graph on the battery usuage it does show it going up.
Anyone else noticed this?
chrisnewton said:
Hi all
Just noticed on my nexus 5 if i use it for a while obviously the battery level goes down, but then if i look a bit later its gone back up!
for example i was on my lunch and used nexus for a while, checked battery it was on 61%, then an hour later i checked and it was on 63% ??
When i looked at the graph on the battery usuage it does show it going up.
Anyone else noticed this?
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Same here lol I think it is due to Franco kernel
I am un rooted just out of the box
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its based on estimations on your current use. it did some recalculations. thats all.
Yes, such things happen at times.. Battery Stats get reset as soon as you reach full charge... So all will be well as soon as you fully charge the device
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I think it's because of the weather instead. Going from cold to warm would in my theory make the battery percentage higher.
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What?
It's an estimation and changes based on use. No voodoo magic or anything.
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Zepius said:
its based on estimations on your current use. it did some recalculations. thats all.
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bblzd said:
It's an estimation and changes based on use. No voodoo magic or anything.
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This it periodically reads the voltage of the battery and estimates the rest
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I think it does like rootSU said - it goes in, checks the voltage, and if you, at this moment are pushing your phone, the voltage is dropping, so it makes a prediction and you get a drop in % of battery. When you stop using your phone so heavy, the voltage raises a bit, because the battery is not so heavily used, the phone checks voltage, it's more than before, so you get a percent or two. I'd say it's not just a statistic, the battery, when heavily used, drops in voltage, but when you offload it, it recovers some ammount, witch means you gain some battery life. And if someone wants to know why it's like that, think of what happens when you plug in something with a high wattage use in your home - the lights dimm a little bit, because the bigger load, requires more power, meaning voltage and amps, so, the voltage drops. When you unplug it, voltage goes up. It's the same thing.

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