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What's going on, has Big Red forced a change in our devices? Coming from a DroidX, I'm getting scared.
I'm pretty sure the Verizon one didn't come out yet
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Only a few of the verizon phones have actually gotten into people's hands. Once next week hits and everybody starts to get there preorders delivered then we'll see some major improvement
I got mine today and I'm too much of a rookie to try any methods out there... sort of disappointing. I really want Google Wallet.
Rooted mine with no problems.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762204
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evidently verizon is selling their s3 with a locked bootloader.
not impossible to root, just more of a pain in the a$$.
and they kepp pushing the date back
mas4489 said:
evidently verizon is selling their s3 with a locked bootloader.
not impossible to root, just more of a pain in the a$$.
and they kepp pushing the date back
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You can root... Click the link in my sig for details!!
Sold my Razr Maxx & picked up the S3. I am still blown at how great the screen display is. This thing is beautiful!! I've only had the thing for about 24 hours so far but I gotta say I am impressed with the wireless radio. I've heard some bad reports about it, I think I made a thread asking how it was too.
I work in a building where I am in the basement a lot and for some reason it's hard to get cell service down there. Not just for me, for many people who are on different carriers that have different phones. When I had T-Mobile, it was choppy but I could still send text by moving my phone around. With at&t it was a little better but not by much. Sprint was the biggest joke ever and the reason I went to Verizon. I rocked the Epic 4G Touch with Sprint. Moved to Verizon and got the Razr Maxx, figured better carrier with a Motorola that has a good rep for decent wireless radios. For a while I was always able to pull signal and even catch Wi-Fi here and there in that work area. The Razr Maxx didn't have that great of Wi-Fi range though in my opinion. Far as calling and texting, it was a beast! Internet was a little bit slow down there but I was still able to get on with 4G LTE.
Anyways, so far I've been able to do the same today with my Galaxy S3. I was impressed. Kept 1/2 signals in that fringed area but my text kept sending and coming through just fine. No slow down or anything. Also the GS3 has a better Wi-Fi range over the Razr Maxx. I received an OTA yesterday and just got another today. Did they do any modem/radio upgrades? Or did I just luck out and get a great phone?
Glad to here your loving the S3. As to whether they did any changes, i myself haven't had any signal issues that others have talked about either, so maybe we both got lucky Anyways i highly suggest you root and at least unlock the bootloader and flash an alternate recovery That way you'll never have to worry about the bootloader getting completely locked, and you'll open up a realm of possibilities to do with the S3 once you've got it rooted
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Glad to here your loving the S3. As to whether they did any changes, i myself haven't had any signal issues that others have talked about either, so maybe we both got lucky Anyways i highly suggest you root and at least unlock the bootloader and flash an alternate recovery That way you'll never have to worry about the bootloader getting completely locked, and you'll open up a realm of possibilities to do with the S3 once you've got it rooted
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A plus 1 here!
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Neverendingxsin said:
Glad to here your loving the S3. As to whether they did any changes, i myself haven't had any signal issues that others have talked about either, so maybe we both got lucky Anyways i highly suggest you root and at least unlock the bootloader and flash an alternate recovery That way you'll never have to worry about the bootloader getting completely locked, and you'll open up a realm of possibilities to do with the S3 once you've got it rooted
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I've rooted and flashed the crap out of my Epic Touch (GS2 on Sprint). Did some on the Razr Maxx too but the roms weren't that good due to the locked boot loaders not the developers, I still got love for you guys!! That didn't allow them to do much in development.
I think I'm gonna rock it on stock for a bit. I'll see if I root. What is the latest news (release date/rumor date) on our GS3 receiving the official OTA for Jelly Bean? Google Now seems sick!
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I've rooted and flashed the crap out of my Epic Touch (GS2 on Sprint). Did some on the Razr Maxx too but the roms weren't that good due to the locked boot loaders not the developers, I still got love for you guys!! That didn't allow them to do much in development.
I think I'm gonna rock it on stock for a bit. I'll see if I root. What is the latest news (release date/rumor date) on our GS3 receiving the official OTA for Jelly Bean? Google Now seems sick!
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Officially the word is "in the coming months" so really not sure when it'll happen, hopefully a leak comes soon, but again not sure. And google now is definitely sick, but the other thing i've really loved about jellybean is the notification bar and how it handles notifications, for some reason its just really nice and slick
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Officially the word is "in the coming months" so really not sure when it'll happen, hopefully a leak comes soon, but again not sure. And google now is definitely sick, but the other thing i've really loved about jellybean is the notification bar and how it handles notifications, for some reason its just really nice and slick
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I hate those words "in the coming months, coming soon, ect ect". Well hopefully it comes before spring. It took pretty much took them a whole year to update the Epic Touch (GS2) to 4.0 ICS from the time the phone came out. That was freaking ridiculous. I'm so glad I left that phone/carrier.
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I hate those words "in the coming months, coming soon, ect ect". Well hopefully it comes before spring. It took pretty much took them a whole year to update the Epic Touch (GS2) to 4.0 ICS from the time the phone came out. That was freaking ridiculous. I'm so glad I left that phone/carrier.
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Its mainly the carrier's fault, i think my next phone will be a pure google phone for sure. I'm just waiting for google to sell one directly so i don't have to buy it through verizon But believe me, pure android 4.1.2 makes the S3 even more amazing.
The Gs3 stock is already the smoothest experience you can get on an android phone in the US currently.
And with 4.1.2, it's even better. Mind boggling! :highfive:
Neverendingxsin said:
Its mainly the carrier's fault, i think my next phone will be a pure google phone for sure. I'm just waiting for google to sell one directly so i don't have to buy it through verizon But believe me, pure android 4.1.2 makes the S3 even more amazing.
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I know. Verizon is great in a lot of ways but they are some punks in a lot of other ways. The only thing that turns me off from pure google phones is that they are not the best in specs. I realize they are not made to be flagship phones and a lot of things can be tweaked to make it great so it doesn't need the best specs but it would still be nice to see a google phone that has a good camera lenses. Anything else like a good processor would be a bonus!
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I know. Verizon is great in a lot of ways but they are some punks in a lot of other ways. The only thing that turns me off from pure google phones is that they are not the best in specs. I realize they are not made to be flagship phones and a lot of things can be tweaked to make it great so it doesn't need the best specs but it would still be nice to see a google phone that has a good camera lenses. Anything else like a good processor would be a bonus!
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Yeah but with the S3 and the developer community behind it, well it might as well be a pure google phone I just hope the next batch of google phones are great hardware wise
Okay, we got the 4.3 update we all been waiting for. Now comes the magic question - WHY.
I'm not trying to troll here, I think I have a valid question. It's got features taken out, a lot of stuff is different now, some things work, some things don't. It looks different, but - is it better? I am yet to find what is it that it does better than original 4.1 firmware.
I guess what I'm trying to ask is : "give me a reason not to revert back to where it was"
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Okay, we got the 4.3 update we all been waiting for. Now comes the magic question - WHY.
I'm not trying to troll here, I think I have a valid question. It's got features taken out, a lot of stuff is different now, some things work, some things don't. It looks different, but - is it better? I am yet to find what is it that it does better than original 4.1 firmware.
I guess what I'm trying to ask is : "give me a reason not to revert back to where it was"
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Because you can't. Once you take the 4.3 OTA, you're stuck with it.
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Because you can't. Once you take the 4.3 OTA, you're stuck with it.
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I have to say, it was incredibly disappointing that Samsung decided to sneak device lock-down disguised as a software update. Very lame. I was under impression that Samsung does value community building mods for its overpriced phones, understands the value of such community. Apparently, they don't. I agree with someone who said it will be the last Samsung device he purchased, I think it's time for me to join the boycott.
But coming back to the issue at hand: lets imagine I was lucky enough not to trust Samsung to deliver me an update and instead took a hacked one. Is there any reason whatsoever to stay on 4.3? And by that I mean:
- does 4.3 solve some problem in original firmware, that anyone should care about?
- does 4.3 implement some new feature, which was not in original 4.1 firmware that I should be excited about?
galets said:
Okay, we got the 4.3 update we all been waiting for. Now comes the magic question - WHY.
I'm not trying to troll here, I think I have a valid question. It's got features taken out, a lot of stuff is different now, some things work, some things don't. It looks different, but - is it better? I am yet to find what is it that it does better than original 4.1 firmware.
I guess what I'm trying to ask is : "give me a reason not to revert back to where it was"
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What features were taken out? Anything that can be replaced with better apps on the market shouldnt count. In my opinion the new stock task manager makes it worth it.
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Well if I could go back in time I would have just waited for a custom 4.3 tw rom. But at least I don't feel the need to flash a new rom every day now.
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What features were taken out?
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At this time, my biggest issue is that codes do not work, and i cannot get into hidden menu, so no QPST. I'm on PagePlus, so updating PRL is a manual process, and without putting phone into modem mode I cannot do that.
There are a few other annoying things, such as: can't turn off warning against increasing volume on headphones (i think there's some add-ons which let you do it though)
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At this time, my biggest issue is that codes do not work, and i cannot get into hidden menu, so no QPST. I'm on PagePlus, so updating PRL is a manual process, and without putting phone into modem mode I cannot do that.
There are a few other annoying things, such as: can't turn off warning against increasing volume on headphones (i think there's some add-ons which let you do it though)
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I can understand your annoyance with the hidden menu being gone. But that wasn't a "feature" it was a "hidden menu" after all and with root there are ways to get rid of the volume warning. That bugs the crap out of me as well but not to the point to change it yet.... YET!
galets said:
I have to say, it was incredibly disappointing that Samsung decided to sneak device lock-down disguised as a software update. Very lame. I was under impression that Samsung does value community building mods for its overpriced phones, understands the value of such community. Apparently, they don't. I agree with someone who said it will be the last Samsung device he purchased, I think it's time for me to join the boycott.
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Nah, Samsung hasn't been overwhelmingly developer friendly for awhile. There's a bit of dislike for them due to Exynos processors.
Additionally, it wasn't that sneaky. The phone was intended to have a locked bootloader from the beginning. It was expected that the update would patch the loophole we found from the leaked aboot step. That's why it was mentioned multiple times to not accept the 4.3 update in case it locked the bootloader.
Samsung hasn't been developer friendly for a long time. Anytime you take an OTA update you can expect it to prevent the use of custom firmware unless a trusted source says it doesn't.
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Additionally, it wasn't that sneaky. The phone was intended to have a locked bootloader from the beginning. It was expected that the update would patch the loophole we found from the leaked aboot step.
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I still maintain it's been sneaky. The boot loader was not patched for a long time, you even get an icon which indicates custom firmware. Many folks understood it as if Samsung quietly endorses modding. The S3 has had a reputation of phone friendly for modders. Many purchased this very model specifically because they intended to mod it. Also don't forget, people look up to tinkerers, so a lot of sales were made because "this guy who knows the phones has samsung"
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I still maintain it's been sneaky. The boot loader was not patched for a long time, you even get an icon which indicates custom firmware. Many folks understood it as if Samsung quietly endorses modding. The S3 has had a reputation of phone friendly for modders. Many purchased this very model specifically because they intended to mod it. Also don't forget, people look up to tinkerers, so a lot of sales were made because "this guy who knows the phones has samsung"
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Samsung isn't as nice as you think. HTC will often allow you to unlock the phone by signing an agreement that you are voiding the warranty. Verizon has had a history of locking bootloaders that other carriers wouldn't.
This bootloader lock is mostly Verizon's implementation anyway. They're the ones who changed the bootloader and patched our loophole. Other devices on the 4.3 OTA update (sprint and T-Mobile) still have unlocked bootloaders.
The custom icon was only stating we had a custom recovery installed. Didn't have anything to do with firmware checking.
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It's hard to call it sneaky if you look back at the thread that was all about waiting for the update it was repeated daily, if not a couple of times a day that if the OTA hits your phone not to take it because it would lock your bootloader. Taking my early upgrade from the Bionic this didn't really surprise me lol. It just clinched it that, I'll maintain my unlocked bootloader and rom away until its time for my next phone, which will be a nexus or amazingly enough a moto if i can let go of my bionic anger lol....
If you purchase a phone to be modded, after you mod it, why would you ever take a manufacturer OTA?
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galets said:
I have to say, it was incredibly disappointing that Samsung decided to sneak device lock-down disguised as a software update. Very lame. I was under impression that Samsung does value community building mods for its overpriced phones, understands the value of such community. Apparently, they don't. I agree with someone who said it will be the last Samsung device he purchased, I think it's time for me to join the boycott.
But coming back to the issue at hand: lets imagine I was lucky enough not to trust Samsung to deliver me an update and instead took a hacked one. Is there any reason whatsoever to stay on 4.3? And by that I mean:
- does 4.3 solve some problem in original firmware, that anyone should care about?
- does 4.3 implement some new feature, which was not in original 4.1 firmware that I should be excited about?
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Samsung probably does value it, however we need to keep in mind it doesn't HAVE to be their fault.
Android is released from Google, then Samsung gets a hold of it, adds their own skin/features/framework, then hands it off to Verizon, where Verizon locks everything down and adds crap things to it. Verizon is EXTREMELY against community mods and such.
We need to figure out if other carriers are having issues with the 4.3 rollout (if it exists) then we might be able to decide who dropped the ball
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Samsung probably does value it, however we need to keep in mind it doesn't HAVE to be their fault.
Android is released from Google, then Samsung gets a hold of it, adds their own skin/features/framework, then hands it off to Verizon, where Verizon locks everything down and adds crap things to it. Verizon is EXTREMELY against community mods and such.
We need to figure out if other carriers are having issues with the 4.3 rollout (if it exists) then we might be able to decide who dropped the ball
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Its samsung. Every version of the s3 is locked on 4.3 the only difference is nobody is complaining about it on the other forums. samsung wants to be able to have there phones used in government agencies and the like so they locked the phone down. I accidentally upgraded and haven't complained once because its not that big of a deal. I am just not buying from samsung from now on (unless they make the tablet that folds into a phone). Someone can correct me if I am wrong but everything I have read says every s3 on 4.3 has been locked down. If you do say I am wrong please give me a link so I can educate myself.
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Samsung probably does value it, however we need to keep in mind it doesn't HAVE to be their fault.
Android is released from Google, then Samsung gets a hold of it, adds their own skin/features/framework, then hands it off to Verizon, where Verizon locks everything down and adds crap things to it. Verizon is EXTREMELY against community mods and such.
We need to figure out if other carriers are having issues with the 4.3 rollout (if it exists) then we might be able to decide who dropped the ball
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Ahhh I forgot about the Knox or whatever they call it. I thought you were able to switch between using it and not though.
But I guess maybe they have to make sure EVERYTHING is secure, then build the "non" secure stuff on top of that framework.
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XdrummerXboy said:
Ahhh I forgot about the Knox or whatever they call it. I thought you were able to switch between using it and not though.
But I guess maybe they have to make sure EVERYTHING is secure, then build the "non" secure stuff on top of that framework.
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You can still root the OTA by using saferoot. Once rooted, superSU will ask if you want to disable knox. You can then load safestrap which will allow you to load other 4.3 roms and multi-boot your phone etc. Read ALL the threads on saferoot and safestrap before you install them.
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galets said:
Okay, we got the 4.3 update we all been waiting for. Now comes the magic question - WHY.
I'm not trying to troll here, I think I have a valid question. It's got features taken out, a lot of stuff is different now, some things work, some things don't. It looks different, but - is it better? I am yet to find what is it that it does better than original 4.1 firmware.
I guess what I'm trying to ask is : "give me a reason not to revert back to where it was"
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App access to notifications. That is my killer app for 4.3
I'll make this quick because it really doesn't warrant much more than a line or two. Recently I have been noticing that when I select an app from a folder then later quit that app the folder remains open. I have a lot of items in some of my folders so it effectively blocks the rest of my home screen. I feel like in the past these folders were closed when I returned to my home screen. Am I wrong or did I unwittingly change some setting?
Thanks!
judson75 said:
.. I feel like in the past these folders were closed when I returned to my home screen. Am I wrong or did I unwittingly change some setting?
Thanks!
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You're not wrong that is exactly how it works on my phone.
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You're not wrong that is exactly how it works on my phone.
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Hmmm ... well I am going to keep snooping around the settings and see if I can find something I may have tripped or changed. Oddly enough this phone is one that I have made very little alterations to in terms of customization. I have rooted it and added some root-authorized apps (TBU, Wirelss Tether etc) but nothing really fancy. I was an idiot and took the knox-riddled 4.3 OTA so that sort of stopped my mods in their tracks.
This thing with the folders is so annoying! Though thanks for the info.
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Hmmm ... well I am going to keep snooping around the settings and see if I can find something I may have tripped or changed. Oddly enough this phone is one that I have made very little alterations to in terms of customization. I have rooted it and added some root-authorized apps (TBU, Wirelss Tether etc) but nothing really fancy. I was an idiot and took the knox-riddled 4.3 OTA so that sort of stopped my mods in their tracks.
This thing with the folders is so annoying! Though thanks for the info.
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We have similar setups. I'm rooted with custom recovery, but with stock 4.1.2 Rom. I didn't take 4.3 OTA. I don't think there is a setting for your folder problem. I think it is a 4.3 OTA bug. I have seen other posts with the same folder complaint by people on the 4.3 OTA
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We have similar setups. I'm rooted with custom recovery, but with stock 4.1.2 Rom. I didn't take 4.3 OTA. I don't think there is a setting for your folder problem. I think it is a 4.3 OTA bug. I have seen other posts with the same folder complaint by people on the 4.3 OTA
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Can we swear in these threads? Probably not. I think this bug is going to be the straw that broke the camel's back. I am so bummed that this knox deal has basically ended my customizing fun on the S3, I am going to leave this phone. I just bought a Galaxy Nexus on ebay that I have been playing around with. I thing it is finally time to officially jump ship. FU to the 4.3 OTA!
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Can we swear in these threads? Probably not. I think this bug is going to be the straw that broke the camel's back. I am so bummed that this knox deal has basically ended my customizing fun on the S3, I am going to leave this phone. I just bought a Galaxy Nexus on ebay that I have been playing around with. I thing it is finally time to officially jump ship. FU to the 4.3 OTA!
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Knox isn't blocking you from customizing. The locked boot loader is - and that's Verizon. Some recent good news however, is that Samsung just announced that they will be releasing the Kit Kat (4.4.2) update for the S3 to all carriers.
Well, a small silver lining. Thanks for the news. I'll have to try the upgrade and go from the any time line?
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what does this updatedo?
What does this update do? Does it affect my root? Thanks!
It is notifying me too. Since I have twrp and root on stock jelly bean, how can I update if helpful, or turn off update notification?
Chad
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It is notifying me too. Since I have twrp and root on stock jelly bean, how can I update if helpful, or turn off update notification?
Chad
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Started getting the notification yesterday, but I'm also on stock Jelly Bean 4.1.2 and TWRP. I was able to stop the notifications by freezing "AT&T Sofware Update" with Titanium Backup, but I'd also like to know if there's anything here worth the trouble of trying to get it installed.
I just had a chat session with a Samsung official, and she said it's news to them. I told her that I am on I727UCMC1, and she said that my device is up to date. The small update AT&T is pushing must be something to do with AT&T.
Unless it updates my camera features, I'm not even bothering with it, and will keep AT&T Update frozen.
I'm pretty sure I'd have to backup everything, revert to stock UCMC1, cross my fingers and toes that it still doesn't brick my phone, and hope it still can be rooted the way I did before.
It sure would be nice if there was some sort of explanation as to what is being updated. I have looked all over and not found anything anywhere else that mentions this update to I727UCNJ1. I got the number from this an at&t website I would post the link but can't. It is only 12mb so probably not worth a bunch of trouble but I wish I knew what it is trying to update.
Paranoid?
Me too. Mine is original stock, but I upgraded the Android OS last year to 4.1.2 via Samsung Kies. However, mine is unlocked, and I can't help but be suspicious that AT&T is "updating" to do something that is to their benefit and not ours (i.e. relocking the phone?, spyware, etc.?), so it would be nice to have some details of what/why this unexpected update, before blindly agreeing to it. So, if anyone know what this update is all about, please share with us. Thanks very much!
My money's on an update that locks the phone down. What else would AT&T possibly do with a three-year-old platform that isn't making them any new money at this point?
I chatted with an AT&T representative yesterday, and all I could get out of her was that the update had to do with new features to the O/S. That's all the information that she could find, and couldn't tell me any specifics about what features were being updated.
I am about to go to an S5 or S5 Active soon, and I might just revert to stock to check it out.
It's pretty fishy though that neither Samsung, or AT&T has, or wants to divulge in any, information on exactly what it's going to do.
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As far as it locking your device back down, I have yet to flash, or install anything that has re-locked my phone. I guess it's possible. The only thing I'm worried about is losing root, and not being able to get it back with the last way that's available.
I see it's now listed on the AT&T eSupport website No details, just "Android OS Enhancements".
I don't have enough posts on this forum to be permitted to publish a link, but you can find it by Googling "AT&T Update to Skyrocket", and the eSupport link should be near the top of the results.
AT&T is taking the same tack as Verizon, and locking everything down. Even the mid to low end phones. So, I wouldn't be surprised if this is a way to lock older phones.
On the other hand, it really may be final bug fixes - a sort of final service pack. I wish I trusted them to give it a try.
I reverted back to stock I727UCMC1 using Odin v1.85, updated OTA to I727UCNJ1, flashed TWRP custom recovery, got root back, but I am not sure if I am still unlocked or not. I tried *#7465625# on the dialer, but the code does nothing.
Anyone know of another code to check the unlock status?
Thanks very much for your feedback. I've always just put a SIM card from another carrier into my phone. Even if it is not an active SIM, your phone should still tell you whether or not it is locked.
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I reverted back to stock I727UCMC1 using Odin v1.85, updated OTA to I727UCNJ1, flashed TWRP custom recovery, got root back, but I am not sure if I am still unlocked or not. I tried *#7465625# on the dialer, but the code does nothing.
Anyone know of another code to check the unlock status?
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unless u restored a previous efs partition that was locked to a carrier then u will remain unlocked, afaik no one lost their unlocked sim by restoring or flashing any firmwares, to read more about the sim lock or to unlock the sim read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2638037
as for firmwares locking down the phone its referring to the way root is acheived not to the sim carrier lock
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My money's on an update that locks the phone down. What else would AT&T possibly do with a three-year-old platform that isn't making them any new money at this point?
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i hope you are joking, because if not then then you're insane. no offense intended.
Not so insane, I'm afraid. AT&T has started a war on unlocked bootloaders lately. The CEO has officially come out as saying they don't want unlocked devices on their network, and have followed up by sending out OTA updates that lock down devices. Several devices started out unlocked, like the S2, and became locked by OTA updates. The S3, Note 2, etc.
IOW, I wouldn't put it past them, especially if Samsung wasn't aware of the update. On the flip side, the S2 is no longer even for sale, and I have to wonder how many are left in active service.
Clarification?
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i hope you are joking, because if not then then you're insane. no offense intended.
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Thanks, that was very helpful! Seriously though, as a senior member of this forum, perhaps you might have some constructive comments on this subject? After all, we're sitting here with phones (the I-727 SII Skyrocket is an oldie, but goodie!) that are trying to push an unanticipated OTA update on us, in a very suspicious manner. We hope it's just a bug fix, but don't trust the carrier (AT&T) to be doing this, unless they have some ulterior motive. The benefit of your substantial experience would be appreciated. Thanks in advance for any insight you can offer us.
Regards,
Ron M.
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Not so insane, I'm afraid. AT&T has started a war on unlocked bootloaders lately. The CEO has officially come out as saying they don't want unlocked devices on their network, and have followed up by sending out OTA updates that lock down devices. Several devices started out unlocked, like the S2, and became locked by OTA updates. The S3, Note 2, etc.
IOW, I wouldn't put it past them, especially if Samsung wasn't aware of the update. On the flip side, the S2 is no longer even for sale, and I have to wonder how many are left in active service.
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Thank you for your insight, it was TRULY helpful! As a relative newbie, I just want to clarify our terms. When you use the term "unlocked", I deduce you are referring to a phone that has been rooted and is running a different platform - is that correct? In my case, I am NOT rooted and simply running the original crappy stock platform, but my phone is "unlocked" in the traditional sense, in that I can use it with different sims from different carriers throughout the world, rather than being "locked" to AT&T. So, for those of us who are not as technically advanced, could you please clarify? For me, if this OTA update doesn't prevent me from continuing to use other sims from other carriers, then I don't know what the downside would be, unless they're just adding more spyware and bloatware to their already intrusive system? I look forward to your comments.
Regards,
Ron M.
jshamlet said:
Not so insane, I'm afraid. AT&T has started a war on unlocked bootloaders lately. The CEO has officially come out as saying they don't want unlocked devices on their network, and have followed up by sending out OTA updates that lock down devices.
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I thought T.J. Bender was talking about simlock since he didn't mention the bootloader. :silly:
At&t sure isn't making life easy for you.. I'd still be proudly rocking a skyrocket too if I didn't lose it :angel:
I only messed with my Skyrocket for an hour or so after accepting the OTA update, before starting up my new S 5 Active.
The only thing that I really noticed, was they took the AT&T phone setup app off of it, since it is no longer in use by AT&T. There may have been more that I didn't notice, but only running it a couple hours, I couldn't tell. I even checked the camera thinking they might have finally snuck some new features into it, but no dice.
lingowistico said:
i hope you are joking, because if not then then you're insane. no offense intended.
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How does suggesting that AT&T would lock a bootloader make me insane?
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