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I better get an ice cream sandwich after having to deal with your crap HTC. This device was full of flaws when I bought it. That was inexcusable after paying top dollar for it. Verizon (Ripoff Mobile, Inc.) was too uptight to do anything about it. I would not be surprised if all the official talk was nothing more than hot air in the end. At least developers are working on a version. I am so glad I finally had some time to get root permissions on this phone. Did you feel betrayed after buying your TBolt? To be honest, I would have bought a marked down model if I had of know ahead of time what was going to happen.
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why so pissy. My phone was perfect out of teh box, it is faster than any of my friends dual core phones, and I have true unlimited 4g, and why do you care if we get official ics, you will just use a rom anyway, not an ota
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I better get an ice cream sandwich after having to deal with your crap HTC. This device was full of flaws when I bought it. That was inexcusable after paying top dollar for it. Verizon (Ripoff Mobile, Inc.) was too uptight to do anything about it. I would not be surprised if all the official talk was nothing more than hot air in the end. At least developers are working on a version. I am so glad I finally had some time to get root permissions on this phone. Did you feel betrayed after buying your TBolt? To be honest, I would have bought a marked down model if I had of know ahead of time what was going to happen.
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Easy killer. My phone has worked mostly fine since day one. Sure there were some software issues (random reboots due to the LTE radio, GPS, the most annoying), but that is to be expected when you buy bleeding edge technology. This was the first Verizon LTE smartphone, EVER.
That being said, the device is still on par with other top devices today. I haven't upgraded, because I haven't found another device I like that much better than this. The Nexus is nice, but I'm not big on the light flimsy build of those phones, plus samsung is notorious for poor reliability. Motorola screen's have been awful so far, or I would have considered the Razr Maxx.
Bottom line...why don't you cry about it...
BTW, there is nothing special about ICS. Sure it's nice to have the newest thing, but there really isn't that much to get excited about. I still don't understand why honey comb and ICS got rid of the search button. I use that thing constantly.
I have to say I've been 99% happy with this phone since release.
The 1% was the odd rebooting issue I had for 4 weeks in aprilish.
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Honestly I've liked this phone since I first got it, battery life sucked but that was nothing rooting and loading a rom couldn't fix. Other than that I'm still happy with my purchase.
I especially like it cause me and my girlfriend got phones from a good batch, handles low voltages and overclocking even up to 1.8 (not needed though) perfectly.
Thanks to all the developers who have been developing for the thunderbolt since day one, and all that are continuing to do so!
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why so pissy. My phone was perfect out of teh box, it is faster than any of my friends dual core phones, and I have true unlimited 4g, and why do you care if we get official ics, you will just use a rom anyway, not an ota
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Let's see.
1. The phone was the Flagship phone for LTE and was released with Froyo.
2. The phone was buggy at release and still shows some issues.
3. Not everyone's phone was "perfect out of teh box". Some of us had to get replacements multiple times to get a *good one*.
4. ICS does have improvements over Froyo and GB.
5. Official OTA release of ICS will allow devs to create much better ROMs for this phone, rather approaching it by piecemealing parts from other Official ROMs.
6. Lastly, this phone was sold at a premium price and VZW's/HTC's support has been lackluster to be kind about it.
Note: I don't know the OP from Adam, but your experience, like mine, is anecdotal and not indicative of all others. VZW screwed the pooch on the roll-out and
HTC screwed the pooch on the releases of updates, support and finally, by rushing the damn thing out the door before it was ready.
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3. Not everyone's phone was "perfect out of teh box". Some of us had to get replacements multiple times to get a *good one*.
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That's with any phone these days. I haven't had a single smartphone I haven't had to replace for one reason or another.
On a side note, the Tbolt isn't the only flagship phone with problems. The Galaxy Nexus has really bad call connectivity problems from what I hear, and that's supposed to be the MAIN function of a PHONE. lolz
All i will buy is htc. I know updates are slow to come. I also dont care. The newest isnt always the best, there are usually a fresh set of bugs to work out. That being said, the devs here and other sites give me enough variety to satisfy me. If you dont like the process, learn to code.
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I better get an ice cream sandwich after having to deal with your crap HTC. This device was full of flaws when I bought it. That was inexcusable after paying top dollar for it. Verizon (Ripoff Mobile, Inc.) was too uptight to do anything about it. I would not be surprised if all the official talk was nothing more than hot air in the end. At least developers are working on a version. I am so glad I finally had some time to get root permissions on this phone. Did you feel betrayed after buying your TBolt? To be honest, I would have bought a marked down model if I had of know ahead of time what was going to happen.
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I'm sure HTC is reading your post right now
If you care, go call them and say what you said directly as it will do far more good for you and for the community.
I moved onto a Nexus, but I still use my Thunderbolt for development testing apps I make. Not even the Nexus is perfect though as the internal antennas are not as powerful at picking up data. My db is usually 10-15db worse than the thunderbolt. However, I would not trade my Nexus for any other phone as I got tired of having to wait on HTC and Verizon for updates on the Thunderbolt.
i just lol at this thread.
Im an HTC fan. I got my tbolt on launch day and have never had an issue (not saying some havent) but I couldn't be happier.
Still have yet to find one phone on the market that has everything the tbolt has (not including dual core, which has not really impressed me) and still think it is a top 4g phone.
I would buy it all over again. We have received everything promised so far & it would be a nightmare for HTC to not give us ICS after they confirmed it...
I also have to say that Verizon did not screw up or delay the launch. There was never an official launch date given from them or HTC until the week before release, as is the norm with their releases. All other dates were made up by the internet and people.
HTC released about 6 updates to the phone between march and September, I think that is pretty good at keeping on top of it..
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Im an HTC fan. I got my tbolt on launch day and have never had an issue (not saying some havent) but I couldn't be happier.
Still have yet to find one phone on the market that has everything the tbolt has (not including dual core, which has not really impressed me) and still think it is a top 4g phone.
I would buy it all over again. We have received everything promised so far & it would be a nightmare for HTC to not give us ICS after they confirmed it...
I also have to say that Verizon did not screw up or delay the launch. There was never an official launch date given from them or HTC until the week before release, as is the norm with their releases. All other dates were made up by the internet and people.
HTC released about 6 updates to the phone between march and September, I think that is pretty good at keeping on top of it..
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Well said. People are never satisfied. I guess they think HTC should put out updates as often as some ROMs get updated...
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I got the TB for $49 bucks new when I dropped T-Mobile. Rooted it the day I got it home and have never had a single problem with it that I cannot blame on bugs in the ROM or me OCing the crap out of it.
Everyones phone is gonna be better or worse than the next guy. Did we get screwed by Verizon??? Show me where in writing the promise a full ICS upgrade and you will see thousands of TB owners lining up to sue the piss off Verizon and HTC.
If you are gonna stay up on the newest devices, Hopefully you are not paying retail for the devices, Shop around and you will be amazed at what you can find.
I have a galaxy nexus just sitting on stand-by cause i've had no problems with my tbolt, besides the dev slowing down i really have no problems with my tbolt and has been my favorite phone. while it would be nice to get ICS soon im not tripping about it, my contract for the thunderbolt ends in december much wait and see what comes out by then.
why is anyone bothering to respond to this guy? He doesn't like his phone, he needs to quit whining about it and get rid of it. No amount of "I love my phone!" posts are going to change his mind. They just bump this useless thread back to the top. Yes, I know I also just bumped this thread.
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why is anyone bothering to respond to this guy? He doesn't like his phone, he needs to quit whining about it and get rid of it. No amount of "I love my phone!" posts are going to change his mind. They just bump this useless thread back to the top. Yes, I know I also just bumped this thread.
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Lol, you did.
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The two people I know with a nexus have had quite a few issues with their phones.. biggest problems being being signal and when leaving WiFi they don't get data until turning their data off and back on... Point is what ever phone you go to there will be something that bugs you about it and the update that fixes your problem will never come out fast enough.. be happy for what you have..
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i never get tired of forum drama, except that it makes me crave ham.
I haven't had a problem since day 1. I got home, rooted it and put liquid smooth on. I've always been one to have a new rom every week but this one's been so good with battery life and everything that I haven't even tried another one. I love this phone. On another note, my brother got the same phone and has had problems. Just like any other electronic item, you might get a dud.
Given Verizon's encrypted bootloader and highly unlikely chance that the developer version will help in unlocking this phone, is it still worth keeping? I haven't even taken the SG3 out of the FedEx box because I don't want to be stuck with an unmoddable phone. I currently have a Thunderbolt running ThunderShed's ROM with IMO's kernel, and do not want to give up that experience just for a shinier phone. What are your thoughts and opinions?
I'd say it's worth keeping till the end of the 14-day return period, hopefully the bootloader will either be cracked by then (of course, this date varies depending on when you got your phone), or it will become apparent that it's never going to be cracked.
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I'd say it's worth keeping till the end of the 14-day return period, hopefully the bootloader will either be cracked by then (of course, this date varies depending on when you got your phone), or it will become apparent that it's never going to be cracked.
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I just received the phone yesterday, so I have until 7/25 - a good chunk of dev time. I just really hope this doesn't turn out to be a Moto-esque debacle where it's a massive kludge.
One thing that I've noticed with this phone vs others: it works extremely well out of the box. Not only that but we're going to get JB. If modding is that super important to you, either wait for the next Nexus (not guaranteed to be on VZW), or get the current one. You're not going to get a totally moddable phone anymore unless you get the Nexus. Or you can just switch carriers for an unlocked GS3.
For myself: I'm tired of crackflashing. I'm tired of running the latest ROM release and working through bugs. I'm sick of things not working and constantly wiping over and over again. I wanted a phone that just worked well out of the box, and the GS3 is perfect for that. Of course this is entirely subjective, and your needs are obviously more inline with Nexus devices. I'd say if you don't want to put the bootloader status to chance, wait for the next Nexus.
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One thing that I've noticed with this phone vs others: it works extremely well out of the box. Not only that but we're going to get JB. If modding is that super important to you, either wait for the next Nexus (not guaranteed to be on VZW), or get the current one. You're not going to get a totally moddable phone anymore unless you get the Nexus. Or you can just switch carriers for an unlocked GS3.
For myself: I'm tired of crackflashing. I'm tired of running the latest ROM release and working through bugs. I'm sick of things not working and constantly wiping over and over again. I wanted a phone that just worked well out of the box, and the GS3 is perfect for that. Of course this is entirely subjective, and your needs are obviously more inline with Nexus devices. I'd say if you don't want to put the bootloader status to chance, wait for the next Nexus.
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WOW!!! right on the head with that one, I feel the exact same way.
Usually I jump on any mod available but this time i like it just working.
I'm really just waiting on Jelly Bean now.
Depends if you can roll stock. I got at&t gs3. On task and ktoon AOPK and phone is far better than touch wiz. Even with a few minor bugs that will be worked out. On release #2 and its awsome
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Got my phone today and I gotta admit I love the phone Rooted with stock. I would say keep it. Remember the bootloader is locked but only for now.
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Given Verizon's encrypted bootloader and highly unlikely chance that the developer version will help in unlocking this phone, is it still worth keeping? I haven't even taken the SG3 out of the FedEx box because I don't want to be stuck with an unmoddable phone. I currently have a Thunderbolt running ThunderShed's ROM with IMO's kernel, and do not want to give up that experience just for a shinier phone. What are your thoughts and opinions?
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Its extremely early to write off our chances of getting past the bootloader. Even with the encrypted bootloader there has been massives amount of progress, and the phone just hit the stores TODAY. Calling it an unmoddable phone isn't accurate, as we already have the ability to run custom kernels and roms, just not an unsigned boot image. Patience is key, but if you dont have any, return it and get a GNEX with its one gig of ram and 5mp camera
In the news
Samsung will offer open bootloader for Verizon SGS3 phones - on their site.
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Samsung will offer open bootloader for Verizon SGS3 phones - on their site.
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Where is the source or proof of your claim
I was in the same boat op but after using mine I'm loving it. I came from a droid x running cm7gb and I miss things like hard button music control and other customization but the hardware makes up for it. I rooted using the new method and I love it even more. I'm confident that the devs will make progress. IMO the gap between stock and custom is a lot smaller on this phone. Once jb comes to it it will be insane even if it's a samsung version.
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Samsung will offer open bootloader for Verizon SGS3 phones - on their site.
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Yes, you can purchase a totally new phone for $600 if you're up for the expense. It's not a simple software download.
Thanks guys. I think I'm gonna go ahead and fire it up for the time being. Worst case, I can return it in a couple weeks if the stock ROM is too annoying. Best case, the bootloader gets cracked like my Thunderbolt. Most likely, I'll just stop worrying and love the bomb. It sounds like the OEMs have realized we don't want messy, bloated, slothy interfaces gumming up our phones.
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Well, just wanted to add a final note to this. I'm trying to return it and go back to my Thunderbolt. The radio is terrible compared to that phone, constantly dropping wifi and 3G/4G. The phone keeps locking to a black screen requiring a battery pull to restart it. Just not worth the aggravation.
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I plan on keeping the SG3 until the nexus comes out hopefully on Verizon.
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Well, just wanted to add a final note to this. I'm trying to return it and go back to my Thunderbolt. The radio is terrible compared to that phone, constantly dropping wifi and 3G/4G. The phone keeps locking to a black screen requiring a battery pull to restart it. Just not worth the aggravation.
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Maybe you got a dud. I know (myself included) 8 people who already have these phones, plus many many on here and none have your issues. Yeah, your signal is reported differently than htc phones, but what gives there.
It's definitely worth keeping. I have came from iphones and various android devices such as the htc evo, motorola droid razr and the samsung galaxy nexus for verizon and I love the samsung s3. Out of all these devices even with the extended battery on them this battery/phone out performs the other phones.
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Maybe you got a dud. I know (myself included) 8 people who already have these phones, plus many many on here and none have your issues. Yeah, your signal is reported differently than htc phones, but what gives there.
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Guess there's lots of duds out there then...
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Maybe you got a dud. I know (myself included) 8 people who already have these phones, plus many many on here and none have your issues. Yeah, your signal is reported differently than htc phones, but what gives there.
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Exactly, this phone is awesome
Hmmm, a couple of people mentioned that they are tired of modding and crackflashing? Why are you still here on xda? I buy android so I can feed my addiction of owning new phones without actually changing devices. I look forward to new mods and roms.
Oh ya, with all the new development, almost everything can be done with the so called locked bootloader. I'm running the new cm10 /jelly Bean as my daily driver. #screwyouverizon
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I am asking because I got the 4.0.4 update for my razr and now flash is dead. It just won't work on stock and I don't want to flash a rom on it, because I have had hardware issues with it in the past.
After being on the phone with them for 2-2.5 hours. They said I could get a HTC Rezound, but not a S3. I don't really buy this can't have a S3 just because I got my phone last year crap. They are both 199 2 year and 599 Full Retail. ( That's a rip off for the razr, but I am going to try and use this if I can because I have all ways like samsung better.
If they are willing to give me a Rezound do you think I can/should push for a S3.
I am really not a HTC fan and love my S2, best phone EVER. I would like to know if this can be done or if this more like to end in epic fail trying to swap a razr for a S3.
Note's I have tried:
1) About 4-5 web browsers ( Fire fox, Dolphin, sky fire, stock Browser and Chrome.)
2) Factory reset
3) HTML 5 ( It work's poorly to say the lest when I can find it that is.)
4) Using app's for every thing and it feels like a iphone. ( I did not buy a phone like this so I would need app's that are not as good as the web site.)
Update: Got them to let me do the "impossible" yet again and swap a razr for S3.
I told them I would not take a phone with a lot less battery life and would flat out not take the nexus. I also told them that your online store say's it works with flash still and list ICS on there too. Well after I went into that, they put me on hold for a bit and bam I get a 16GB S3 shipping right to my house with a order # in a text msg to my razr. now waiting for the e-mail.
Update2: Got the shipping e-mail and will now be able to track the phone in till it's on my door step. Oh yea
Update4: Got the phone. OH YEA
Battery still not here yet.
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I am asking because I got the 4.0.4 update for my razr and now flash is dead. It just won't work on stock and I don't want to flash a rom on it, because I have had hardware issues with it in the past.
After being on the phone with them for 2-2.5 hours. They said I could get a HTC Rezound, but not a S3. I don't really buy this can't have a S3 just because I got my phone last year. They are both 199 2 year and 599 Full Retail. ( That's a rip off for the razr, but I am going to try and use this if I can because I have all ways like samsung better.
So does flash work and if so do you think I should push for a S3.
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Flash works on the native browser for the S3.
Ok just wanted to be sure.
Edit: does it come with flash and if not can you download it from the play store or side load it?
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Flash works fine. Flash doesn't work in chrome on any phone. A lot of sites are transitioning to HTML5 but compliance is very spotty, at best.
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Yes, it does.
I get a big kick out of demonstrating this regularly to all the iphone users I work with.......
I know it does not work on chrome, but 3 techs working for verizon told me to try that. +100000000000000000 to the HTML 5 comment. That's why losing flash on my razr sucked so much and that I would not just lie down on this issue. Oh and even when I can find HTML 5.... It does not work/ very "laggy" on my razr. That update has really messed the phone up.
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I know it does not work on chrome, but 3 techs working for verizon told me to try that. +100000000000000000 to the HTML 5 comment. That's why losing flash on my razr sucked so much and that I would not just lie down on this issue. Oh and even when I can find HTML 5.... It does not work/ very "laggy" on my razr. That update has really messed the phone up.
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Can you use Dolphin HD on your phone? I think it supports Flash natively, if I'm not mistaken. Nice browser too.
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That will not work, becuase the Razr OS it's self is the issue. It's doomed because motorola is crap. I with them for about over a hour and verizon for 2-2.5 hours. I tryed Dolphin, fire fox, Chorome. (Becuase they told me too) Then they acted like this was OK. BS verizon, BS. Flash does not end intill JB NOT ICS you ********.
I have to take the HTC or call back and try for a S3.
Updating your phone is supposed to add features, not remove them. WTF is Verizon and Motorola thinking? Why doesn't it support flash anymore? I'm with you.. what a bunch of assholes!
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Updating your phone is supposed to add features, not remove them. WTF is Verizon and Motorola thinking? Why doesn't it support flash anymore? I'm with you.. what a bunch of assholes!
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They try real hard to say it's google ICS does not work with flash and that flash did it, but I got them real good one that one( Called them out BIG time on this BS). This ICS has broke more than just flash, call's sound like trash now, youtube APP look's like 240p on HQ and more.
Glad your with me, so are two store reps. I think tomorrow I will call again and tell them I want the S3 and I won't take a phone way less battery life (The HTC phone) or else... court time for braking a feature that I got the phone for. I know flash won't live forever, but this is BS.
I would have called today, but I did not really have the time.
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They try real hard to say it's google ICS does not work with flash and that flash did it, but I got them real good one that one( Called them out BIG time on this BS). This ICS has broke more than just flash, call's sound like trash now, youtube APP look's like 240p on HQ and more.
Glad your with me, so are two store reps. I think tomorrow I will call again and tell them I want the S3 and I won't take a phone way less battery life (The HTC phone) or else... court time for braking a feature that I got the phone for. I know flash won't live forever, but this is BS.
I would have called today, but I did not really have the time.
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You should get some of your fellow RAZR users to file BBB complaints.
Better fire some off to the FCC as well. Seriously.
If we don't stand up to Verizon, soon, it will be too late. That whole "speak now or forever hold your peace" thing.
They take our apps, they take our options and then they want to take more money. **** them.
What is it in the razr's software that is crippling flash. If you have flash player installed and a browser that supports it I don't know why it wouldn't work. Flash worked fine on eclair, froyo, gingerbread, ice cream sandwich and jelly bean on my old evo 4g...It worked fine on froyo &gb my my girlfriends old DROID 2 and it works like a champ on the s3. I just don't see how it can be dependant on anything other than the browser and flash player... Am I missing something?
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They don't seem to give a flying **** and every time some one says any thing all the fan boy's kill it any way they can. My best bet is to force them to give me a S3 vs them fixing a update. I know I am never buying a droid branded phone ever again, that's for sure. You should herd the a-holes, talking like braking crap is ok, becuase flash is ending some time, but NOT now. You lazy BLEEPING crap holes.
P.S I don't know why it does not work too, the OS is a big mess with this update so that's likely why. Yes it is 100% stock by the way
Edit: can any one think of a better tile? thanks
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I am asking because I got the 4.0.4 update for my razr and now flash is dead. It just won't work on stock and I don't want to flash a rom on it, because I have had hardware issues with it in the past.
After being on the phone with them for 2-2.5 hours. They said I could get a HTC Rezound, but not a S3. I don't really buy this can't have a S3 just because I got my phone last year crap. They are both 199 2 year and 599 Full Retail. ( That's a rip off for the razr, but I am going to try and use this if I can because I have all ways like samsung better.
If they are willing to give me a Rezound do you think I can/should push for a S3.
I am really not a HTC fan and love my S2, best phone EVER. I would like to know if this can be done or if this more like to end in epic fail trying to swap a razr for a S3.
Note's I have tried:
1) About 4-5 web browsers ( Fire fox, Dolphin, sky fire, stock Browser and Chrome.)
2) Factory reset
3) HTML 5 ( It work's poorly to say the lest when I can find it that is.)
4) Using app's for every thing and it feels like a iphone. ( I did not buy a phone like this so I would need app's that are not as good as the web site.)
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whichever way you go it wont matter once your device gets to Jelly Bean... Flash is not on Jelly Bean at all unless you force it and even then it may not work.
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whichever way you go it wont matter once your device gets to Jelly Bean... Flash is not on Jelly Bean at all unless you force it and even then it may not work.
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Which, if all other Motorola's are any indication, won't see JB at all as Verizon will soon EOL the device and its encrypted boot loader, well, need I say more?
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It's their fault you became dissatisfied with the phone through the bull**** updates. Argue for the S3, it's the same price. Back when I cracked the screen on my OG Droid, I argued with Asurion and sure enough they sent me a brand new Droid 2 (due to them not making OG Droids anymore). Then when the Droid 2's power button gave out, I called up VZW and sure enough, after a good amount of hassle they sent me a brand new Droid 2 Global. I've only had my contract for ~2 years, and in that time I have had 4 brand new phones and have only paid for 2 (well, 3 if you count the insurance deductible, even then $90 was less than half of the then-current price for D2Gs).
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It's their fault you became dissatisfied with the phone through the bull**** updates. Argue for the S3, it's the same price. Back when I cracked the screen on my OG Droid, I argued with Asurion and sure enough they sent me a brand new Droid 2 (due to them not making OG Droids anymore). Then when the Droid 2's power button gave out, I called up VZW and sure enough, after a good amount of hassle they sent me a brand new Droid 2 Global. I've only had my contract for ~2 years, and in that time I have had 4 brand new phones and have only paid for 2 (well, 3 if you count the insurance deductible, even then $90 was less than half of the then-current price for D2Gs).
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That's what I think too and I got verizon to see it my way. I got a text with order #, but not the e-mail yet. It was "impossible" due to limited stock and only S3 owner's could get a phone swap. I called bull on that one and would not take a lesser phone for there miss take not mine. This will be my 3rd phone and I have only paid for the first one that messed up and had to be replaced for over heating and data issues.
So now I will soon be joining you guys.
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That's what I think too and I got verizon to see it my way. I got a text with order #, but not the e-mail yet. It was "impossible" due to limited stock and only S3 owner's could get a phone swap. I called bull on that one and would not take a lesser phone for there miss take not mine. This will be my 3rd phone and I have only paid for the first one that messed up and had to be replaced for over heating and data issues.
So now I will soon be joining you guys.
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Can you pm more info on how you did this? I have had 15 RAZR/RAZR maxx replacements and they'll give me any phone I want, besides the S3, so if you managed to do it, I want to be able too as well! Any help would be greatly appreciated man!
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That's what I think too and I got verizon to see it my way. I got a text with order #, but not the e-mail yet. It was "impossible" due to limited stock and only S3 owner's could get a phone swap. I called bull on that one and would not take a lesser phone for there miss take not mine. This will be my 3rd phone and I have only paid for the first one that messed up and had to be replaced for over heating and data issues.
So now I will soon be joining you guys.
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:good: Congratulations!
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Can you pm more info on how you did this? I have had 15 RAZR/RAZR maxx replacements and they'll give me any phone I want, besides the S3, so if you managed to do it, I want to be able too as well! Any help would be greatly appreciated man!
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**** man.. 15? ****!
ancashion said:
:good: Congratulations!
Thanks
**** man.. 15? ****!
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skater95 said:
Can you pm more info on how you did this? I have had 15 RAZR/RAZR maxx replacements and they'll give me any phone I want, besides the S3, so if you managed to do it, I want to be able too as well! Any help would be greatly appreciated man!
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Well in your case they should let you do it.
You should tell them that you want a S3 and you will not take less due to all of that you have had to deal with. If that does not work then tell them you will go to the BBB and the FCC and why you won't take the phones they want to give you.
I have had some issues with the razr's, but 15 is messed up and I hope you can get it fixed.
How many of you would take the maxx hd as a replacement for your s3...this is the offer verizon gave me due to poor reception
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never in a BILLON years would I take it. unlocked bootloader man, that should be enough of a reason to stay.
I cant send text nessages with 1 or 2 bars of signal...I want a note 2, but I fear that will still be an issue. My htc and motorola phones work flawlessly
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I cant send text nessages with 1 or 2 bars of signal...I want a note 2, but I fear that will still be an issue. My htc and motorola phones work flawlessly
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Dealing with the same things.. I don't want to go to a phone that has a boot loaded that might NEVER be unlocked... Plus I played with the Max HD and it seem to have lag in areas where my S3 doesn't..
i honestly would consider it, but probably not.
Are u going for it?
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i honestly would consider it, but probably not.
Are u going for it?
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I don't think so.. They look at time device was released to consider it comparison and that's not fair..
Its a no go for me buddy. The locked bootloader is a dealbreaker.
Even if it gets unlocked(maybe it already is). In the past MOTO has tried very hard to prevent custom Roms from being installed (see DroidX & Bionic). Which makes MOTO phones very unattractive to the Devs
If reception is really a problem for you see if they'll let you go with something else, maybe the DROID DNA by HTC.
Conversely, as long a your bootloader is going to be locked you could always give the Iphone5 a go. I know, I know blasphemy, but i'm sure IOS6 is better than MOTO blur.
Please let us know what you decide
Janker5050 said:
How many of you would take the maxx hd as a replacement for your s3...this is the offer verizon gave me due to poor reception
Sent from a unlocked ad cocked GSIII...........
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I would take precisely nothing over the GS3 at this point, there is no better phone out there IMO. I have and still use quite a few different devices (I have to for work).
It is true however that Samsung does get slightly worse reception than some of the other manufacturers. My HTC and Motorola phones got 3G reception in a few areas in which I don't get reception with the GS3 (there are very few of these area's though). To this point, it has caused me no concern whatsoever.
4G reception actually seems to be a bit better on the SG3 though, certainly my speeds are better.
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Its a no go for me buddy. The locked bootloader is a dealbreaker.
Even if it gets unlocked(maybe it already is). In the past MOTO has tried very hard to prevent custom Roms from being installed (see DroidX & Bionic). Which makes MOTO phones very unattractive to the Devs
If reception is really a problem for you see if they'll let you go with something else, maybe the DROID DNA by HTC.
Conversely, as long a your bootloader is going to be locked you could always give the Iphone5 a go. I know, I know blasphemy, but i'm sure IOS6 is better than MOTO blur.
Please let us know what you decide
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"Conversely, as long a your bootloader is going to be locked you could always give the Iphone5 a go." - NOW THIS WAS A PRICELESS STATEMENT!!!
i would not take that offer....here is my experience long story short....i had the s3, wife took it, i used her upgrade and got the hd maxx, returned it and now im on the s3 again...reasons being the camera is absolutely terrible and you loose a lot of screen real estate with those on screen buttons. i was like where is the rest of my screen? Id suggest staying with the s3 and wait for software update or try one of the leaks on here.
That depends on what you want to be able to do with your phone. If you need the reception what choice do you really have? Have them trade you out with a Droid DNA!
What setup are you running now on your S3? Have you tried the jellybean leak radios? They seem to do better at holding signals then the ICS radios. You dont have to be rooted or unlocked to flash a new radio.
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How many of you would take the maxx hd as a replacement for your s3...this is the offer verizon gave me due to poor reception
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I would say just replace it with another, working SGS3! Obviously yours is defective. You do not have to change brands, I don't think you will find a better phone than what you already have. You just need a working one! It is not a SGS3 problem, but just your unit.
I odined th k3 leak so im on k3 rpm and modem.... Its better than ics.. But not much... They wouldnt give me a note 2 because they think it will be the same issue.... The dna is to new.. They have cln replacements... So thats why they offered me the maxx hd.... The white one is sexy.. Im gonna let them sh ip it and try it out for a day... If no major improvment it wilbe going back and ill press for a note 2....
Sent from a unlocked and cocked GSIII...........
There is a problem with their radios and samsung and verizon is aware of it.. The best recption i got was on the k3 leak..and im still having constant 4g drops... and my source in verizon devolpment says k3 is the ota.. Im gonna have them ship the white maxx hd try it for a day and if it aint worth it to me. Ill send it back and press the note 2
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That depends on what you want to be able to do with your phone. If you need the reception what choice do you really have? Have them trade you out with a Droid DNA!
What setup are you running now on your S3? Have you tried the jellybean leak radios? They seem to do better at holding signals then the ICS radios. You dont have to be rooted or unlocked to flash a new radio.
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I would trade it for a DNA as well, but it would be a pain because it has not been out 30 days yet. I know this because of my Droid Razr to S3 swap.
I would not ever get a Razr again due to issues like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDxJoGv3FLA
I wouldn't get the DNA. I had it for a week and took it back. I love the gs3. The DNA is a good device bit the lack of an SD card slot sucks. There are a lot of apps that aren't compatible with it right now but I know that's due to to the screen resolution but I'm not patient enough to sit around and wait for support to be added. The camera quality compared to the gs3 isn't as good in my opinion. The battery life isn't bad but the gs3 is much better and you have the option to at least get a bigger battery if you need it. The on screen menu button drove me crazy although you can fix that problem by unlocking and flashing a custom ROM. All in all i would stick with the galaxy s3 much better phone in my opinion.
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Its a no go for me buddy. The locked bootloader is a dealbreaker.
Even if it gets unlocked(maybe it already is). In the past MOTO has tried very hard to prevent custom Roms from being installed (see DroidX & Bionic). Which makes MOTO phones very unattractive to the Devs
If reception is really a problem for you see if they'll let you go with something else, maybe the DROID DNA by HTC.
Conversely, as long a your bootloader is going to be locked you could always give the Iphone5 a go. I know, I know blasphemy, but i'm sure IOS6 is better than MOTO blur.
Please let us know what you decide
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Don't think I can agree that ios is better than motoblur... The new blur is as close to aosp as any of the current skinned Os.
That being said the real question is do you even care about unlocked bootloader? Does it really matter to you?
Maxx=better reception(based on moto typical performance in the wireless area) and better battery.
Gs3=more open platform. Camera is better than moto.
There are plenty more but if you don't care about unlocked bootloader and signal is a priority, get the maxx. My wife has a gs3 and works in a terrible signal area. My rezound gets better signal in her area. But she loves her gs3 so much she won't get another phone. No concern for bootloader to her. She loved her old spring gs2.
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There is a problem with their radios and samsung and verizon is aware of it.. The best recption i got was on the k3 leak..and im still having constant 4g drops... and my source in verizon devolpment says k3 is the ota.. Im gonna have them ship the white maxx hd try it for a day and if it aint worth it to me. Ill send it back and press the note 2
Sent from a unlocked and cocked GSIII...........
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Well I can give my opinion since I'm on the RAZR maxx HD, the device is well built and cool looking. It is smaller on the screen size but it feels more comfortable for me, my girlfriend had the gs3 and the RAZR feels more better in the hands. Also you can if the battery is conditioned, get 7 hours of on screen time with 4G. That is what I have got your looking at 6-7 hours on screen with 4g and more then a day before the phone needs to be charged. Also the RAZR has a more stock jellybean look instead of being heavily themed like touch wiz. The signal is indeed strong with faster speeds, just have to test for yourself. Hope all goes well with the RAZR and your signal issues get fixed.
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I cant send text nessages with 1 or 2 bars of signal...I want a note 2, but I fear that will still be an issue. My htc and motorola phones work flawlessly
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The Note 2 is the best device Samsung has built to date for signal!!! The 3g radio is also far superior to the s3....I have not had one data drop on my Note 2 in areas where I normally would get them on my s3...not to mention I also get 7hrs of screen on time with 45-50hrs of battery life between charges. The s3 is a solid phone and I never had any trouble with signal except when it switched to 3g in fringe coverage areas...
New Moto devices are solid -- locked BL or not. The newest skin IS as close to AOSP as you can get, as said above.
Additionally, the post that read "known radio problems" are just silly to me. People often generalize an entire launch of a device with their issue. My reception is wonderful. I'd say it's more an isolated, local issue with many of you. I've owned about every top tier device of the last year and I can honestly say my S3 is one of the best. My bionic was horrible and some of my Nexi were great. Lol. Plural
Anyways, that wouldn't be a bad replacement IMO, but I'd shoot for a Note 2. That thing is a tank and getting a lot of love.
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you know, I have been with LG for quite some time now, but I do have to say that the LG G Flex 2 was a huge disappointment. I have owned the G2, Original G Flex, G3 and the Flex 2 and it was by far the worst phone. I absolutely loved my G2 and then got the Original Flex to try out and loved it (except for the screen res and burn in effect). When the G3 came out I loved it but had a few problems, like sticking with the SD801 was a bad decision and made the phone laggy due to the screen, and there were ways to speed it up and it turned out to be a great phone.
But now that LG has started to gain popularity with their mobile devices, I am worried that they are going to let it go to their heads and start cutting corners. I am going to try LG one more time to see how they handle this disappointment, and trust me they know this phone bombed because the world has let them know how bad it really is. I hope that the G4 is going to blow everyone away and restore all of us die hard fans' faith in the company. I know alot of people are going to this from the G2, and are disappointed in the speed of the phone. so if you dont mind a big phone, I went with the Nexus 6 and could not be happier, this phone blows me away by how fast and responsive it is. this phone is a Rooting Person's Dream lol
I do have to say i will miss my LG, but for people out there wanting to upgrade now, I think if you can wait just alittle bit longer, then wait. this phone isnt worth the upgrade and wait for the G4. but if you are looking for an amazing phone, I have to say go with the Nexus 6
You should have hung in there for the update it runs fantastic now all the transitions are smooth and the phone is very good now
Nexus 6 was just too big for me.
If your only issue with the phone was the lag then you should have waited a bit..., I personally love this phone.
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Here too.
Love this phone now
Only the battery life is not the best
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Here too.
Love this phone now
Only the battery life is not the best
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Was all the lag fixed with a firmware update, then?
Not all but the most.
I'm on 10b and its good now.
10d is better but not available for Vodafone germany. The software/ui wasn't optimized for the snapdragon 810.
Gta San Andreas runs very smooth with max settings
I personally haven't had a lot of lag. But I just got my phone 4/4 and the update had already been released. What I do have is battery issues. Neither my nor my friends phone will read my samsung 64 GB sd card and infact if i put the card into either phone it immediately corrupts the data forcing a reformat.
This combined with the relatively absent dev community is likely going to force me into a Galaxy s6 on the 10th
That being said There are some things this phone did completely right and I wish Samsung would have stepped their sh*t up a notch.
Frankly the current offerings fail to excite me and these upgrades feel lackluster.
From my galaxy s5 with a sweet Dev community to the G flex 2 with *cricket cricket* no dev community.
TBH if i didn't have the above mentioned issues and little things
(for example smart remote not deploying into notification panel despite the fact that i chose home wifi and was connected to it., The youtube app not letting me pause a video.) That may be Lolliflop issues and I would be surprised if a lot of those type of bugs go away when 5.1 hits.
Lately Android seems to trying to be more iPhone like meanwhile apple is stealing Android features by the bushel and becoming more android like.
I will likely never buy an apple product do to the lack of transparency and also hatred for the walled garden.
That being said android needs to wow me. I kind of wish I had waited to pull the trigger on upgrading but I traded in my phone after a year with sprint and now Have to take a step up.
It looks like it's going to be an s6 for me.
But I curse the loathsome curr dogs Samsung for taking away my microSd and My removable battery.
But alas I need to get a real phone with a dev community.
Or else start learning to dev myself.
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I personally haven't had a lot of lag. But I just got my phone 4/4 and the update had already been released. What I do have is battery issues. Neither my nor my friends phone will read my samsung 64 GB sd card and infact if i put the card into either phone it immediately corrupts the data forcing a reformat.
TBH if i didn't have the above mentioned issues and little things
(for example smart remote not deploying into notification panel despite the fact that i chose home wifi and was connected to it., The youtube app not letting me pause a video.) That may be Lolliflop issues and I would be surprised if a lot of those type of bugs go away when 5.1 hits.
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I don't have problems with lag, battery or the other problems your phone has. Did you try a factory reset?
I agree the lack of devs is discouraging.
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I don't have problems with lag, battery or the other problems your phone has. Did you try a factory reset?
I agree the lack of devs is discouraging.
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I think a lot of dev are waiting to see if this phone bootloader will be unlockable because the first og G Flex was able to be rooted but the bootloader was locked on tight that's the reason it also lacked in the development section.
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I don't have problems with lag, battery or the other problems your phone has. Did you try a factory reset?
I agree the lack of devs is discouraging.
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I have done a few resets and my big gripe
Is still the sd corruption and random glitches
yellowman82 said:
I think a lot of dev are waiting to see if this phone bootloader will be unlockable because the first og G Flex was able to be rooted but the bootloader was locked on tight that's the reason it also lacked in the development section.
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The s5 had knox and it was still defeated. If enough devs get this phone ( big if) someone will defeat it.
If i were lg i would be trying to do everything I could to move phones.
That would include pandering to the modders.
Lets be honest here most of us here on are the most tech savvy people in our family/friend circles.
At least i am. And all my friends and family follow my lead as far as phones.
Everybody has a galaxy s5 in my family. It's because I recommended it to them. I definitely can't recommend LG based on the super locked boot loader. Nor the issues I've had. Tbh im prob returning for an s6. As long as bootloader is unlocked.
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I have done a few resets and my big gripe
Is still the sd corruption and random glitches
The s5 had knox and it was still defeated. If enough devs get this phone ( big if) someone will defeat it.
If i were lg i would be trying to do everything I could to move phones.
That would include pandering to the modders.
Lets be honest here most of us here on are the most tech savvy people in our family/friend circles.
At least i am. And all my friends and family follow my lead as far as phones.
Everybody has a galaxy s5 in my family. It's because I recommended it to them. I definitely can't recommend LG based on the super locked boot loader. Nor the issues I've had. Tbh im prob returning for an s6. As long as bootloader is unlocked.
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Your right but it's very risky for these devs to just put out the cash for a phone that your to not sure is going to succeed in the development department especially with the locked boot loader. The original Flex was a nightmare when it came down to development but overall the phone was great so I stuck with it for a whole year.
I was waiting for the flex 2 but saw too many reasons to not get it so I decided to buy the nexus 6 right out for $500 brand new sealed and I don't regret it at all and plus I still have my upgrade available so I could use it for a device well worth in quarter 4.
phelony said:
I have done a few resets and my big gripe
Is still the sd corruption and random glitches
The s5 had knox and it was still defeated. If enough devs get this phone ( big if) someone will defeat it.
If i were lg i would be trying to do everything I could to move phones.
That would include pandering to the modders.
Lets be honest here most of us here on are the most tech savvy people in our family/friend circles.
At least i am. And all my friends and family follow my lead as far as phones.
Everybody has a galaxy s5 in my family. It's because I recommended it to them. I definitely can't recommend LG based on the super locked boot loader. Nor the issues I've had. Tbh im prob returning for an s6. As long as bootloader is unlocked.
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Hey guys, Sorry havent had the chance to check in, but I am glad that most have had updates to fix alot of the problems. I am on sprint and 9 times out of 10 sprint is the last to provide any updates for a phone for some reason. I really did like the phone and im sure I will try LG again in the future, but I didnt want to be stuck with a phone I was having so many issue's with until they decided to throw out an update, and we know sometimes that can be months. The Nexus 6 is big but I love it and the battery life is ALOT better than my G3 and the Flex 2, but nothing has beaten the G2. I sure wish LG could find a way to bring back the best of performance and battery life like they did on the G2.
just out of curiousity, are any of you guys on sprint? I was just curious if sprint did release an update
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Hey guys, Sorry havent had the chance to check in, but I am glad that most have had updates to fix alot of the problems. I am on sprint and 9 times out of 10 sprint is the last to provide any updates for a phone for some reason. I really did like the phone and im sure I will try LG again in the future, but I didnt want to be stuck with a phone I was having so many issue's with until they decided to throw out an update, and we know sometimes that can be months. The Nexus 6 is big but I love it and the battery life is ALOT better than my G3 and the Flex 2, but nothing has beaten the G2. I sure wish LG could find a way to bring back the best of performance and battery life like they did on the G2.
just out of curiousity, are any of you guys on sprint? I was just curious if sprint did release an update
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Yep. Released an update and phone running great. Hope you enjoy whatever older model you got. Peace.
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Yep. Released an update and phone running great. Hope you enjoy whatever older model you got. Peace.
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I'm pretty sure he will with all the development that's going on on that device lol.
Took mine back and got me a note 4 . Sold my nexus 6 for the flex 2 because i didn't like it and i hated the flex2 more than the nexus6 . This could have been a killer phone
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I'm pretty sure he will with all the development that's going on on that device lol.
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oh yes, loving the development on this phone. im constantly trying new roms and kernels.. havent seen support like this since the OG Evo.
But also, I have multiple lines on my account, so I get a new phone every six months. so while you are still using this I will have probably gotten three phones to your one. Peace
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oh yes, loving the development on this phone. im constantly trying new roms and kernels.. havent seen support like this since the OG Evo.
But also, I have multiple lines on my account, so I get a new phone every six months. so while you are still using this I will have probably gotten three phones to your one. Peace
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Yea I'm the same too been flashing ROMs from left to right can't seem to just stay on one lol too many are usually popping out or updating.
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Yea I'm the same too been flashing ROMs from left to right can't seem to just stay on one lol too many are usually popping out or updating.
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yea, i cant seem to make up my mind so i just try them all... lol
but coming from LG's I hate how the USB OTG doesnt auto mount thru the UI, I loved that feature. and Stickmount is ok but it still doesnt make it work with all apps
also, just out of curiousity... I have had LG for awhile and liked the UI, but the Flex 2 was the first time it was just super laggy and I never really cared for other launchers, but now that I have the Nexus 6 and have been playing with Stock Google and AOSP roms, I didnt care for the Google Launcher so I started playing with others and really like Apex. It works great for me and I can customize and setup just how I like..
So has anyone with the Flex 2 tried any other launchers on it and if so how did it work. was it an instant transformation or was there still some issues?