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This may seem like a redundant request but if you are or are GOING to be deving for this device could you post your Twitter or G+ id's here so we can follow your work?
That would be great.
+1 ...we fought for a forum...now no development...kinda disheartening.
I guess I need to get back with it now that I have kernel source...
You could follow me all you want, but you probably won't like where I'll lead. I usually don't bother with twitter, g+, facebook, or any other "social" site. (On the other hand, if you find any anti-social sites, please let me know.)
need to brainwash the tab8.9/10.1 developers to do the custom ROMs for us as well..
btw, what are we looking for in a new custom ROM?
EXT4, i think Samsung already moved to this...
Optimization
- Hardware Acceleration? Already ON by default in Honeycomb, I have done this mod and no difference at all.. it depends on the app to utilize this feature...
Theming ? Once rooted, you can modify the framework files.. should be quite easy, but abit time consuming... and requires creativity...
- Bloat removal? just ROOT and remove those excess fats..
bdigitalstudio said:
need to brainwash the tab8.9/10.1 developers to do the custom ROMs for us as well..
btw, what are we looking for in a new custom ROM?
EXT4, i think Samsung already moved to this...
Optimization
- Hardware Acceleration? Already ON by default in Honeycomb, I have done this mod and no difference at all.. it depends on the app to utilize this feature...
Theming ? Once rooted, you can modify the framework files.. should be quite easy, but abit time consuming... and requires creativity...
- Bloat removal? just ROOT and remove those excess fats..
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My two yr old son plays fruit ninja and the calculator/calendar/etc opens. I bet a lot ofyou experience the same annoyance of the bottom bar mini apps not having the option to hide or lock on games and other apps on fullscren.
I'm not likely to be getting the device but I'm gonna stop by and help out to get things off the ground.
In terms of speed of development, keep in mind this thing "soft launched" in the US - I didn't even know until a few days ago that it was available at all. It's typical for a device to take a few weeks to get off the ground, the I777 was an unusual exception due to being 95%+ identical to the I9100 and being a majorly anticipated handset launch.
I'm going to start on something here soon, buy this will be my first developing for any device, so you prob won't want to follow anything I do, its gonna be slow and buggy
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its gonna be slow and buggy
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Do you work for microsoft?
Ha u would think
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khel26 said:
My two yr old son plays fruit ninja and the calculator/calendar/etc opens. I bet a lot ofyou experience the same annoyance of the bottom bar mini apps not having the option to hide or lock on games and other apps on fullscren.
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You can use "Honeybar" ROOT from the Android Market. It lets you hide the bar in Honeycomb.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.hanhuy.android.hsbm
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(On the other hand, if you find any anti-social sites, please let me know.)
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You're already here bro.
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I realize that you are trying to get all the Devs in one spot and thats a great idea in a new forum... however since nothing is being developed here (rom/kernel) Im going to have to move this to the General section.
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I realize that you are trying to get all the Devs in one spot and thats a great idea in a new forum... however since nothing is being developed here (rom/kernel) Im going to have to move this to the General section.
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ugh. next thing you know, he's going to create a "Q&A" forum for us. That's when I'll start running away.
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ugh. next thing you know, he's going to create a "Q&A" forum for us. That's when I'll start running away.
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If it gets big enough then I will. The Dev thread is for development, not asking questions or asking for people to raise their hand.
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If it gets big enough then I will. The Dev thread is for development, not asking questions or asking for people to raise their hand.
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umm.. but they have to raise their hand in order for you to smell their armpits. How else will you know who is a dev and who isn't? (I think I might have just insulted myself... hrmm)
I just posted this over in the 10.1 community's General section, hopefully someone can help me get started!
Maybe someone here can hep me get the ball rolling as well?
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Hi all,
I just got my hands on a galaxy tab 7.0 plus and was hoping to build a rom for its community (no one has really built a rom for 7.0, its a small community and we just got CWM).
Ideally I'd like to kang together a stock Honeycomb 3.2 rom, free of touchwiz. I was hoping to port over one of the Google I/O Roms for the 10.1. I figure our devices are close enough that I can try tossing over the build props, make sure to use the boot/recovery images from the 7.0 and maybe, just maybe, get lucky. Or at least have a good start.
The problem is that I can't seem to find any of the Google I/O roms, past 3.1. Do those device not get updates? Is there another Touchwiz free rom I can start from? I remembering reading a while back that TWUX is an optional update for the 10.1. I've been looking around, but I'm have a heck of a time finding links that clearly imply I'm dling a Touchwiz free rom. Most of the just say "Stock" which is a bit ambiguous.
If someone would be kind enough to point me to an ODIN and CWM mod version of the sorta rom I'm looking for I'd be greatly appreciative(and hopefully if I can get this out the door, so will 7.0 community)
Thanks!
-B
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OK so I have the s3. I'm used to jail broken iPods. One thing I enjoyed with it was the ability to tweak and mod the look endlessly in Cydia.
So I'm rooted and have a ROM installed. I forget what one but its basically bare bones. How can I tweak it endlessly like the iPhone? I don't want to use a launcher because they use system resources and what not. Is there a thing kinda like Cydia for android? I'd like to tweak my phone and skin it.
Thanks.
Xposed has a few options
and also there is cydia and winterboard for android which idk what they even do
What's xposed? Sorry
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You should never be afraid to try a new launcher.
There are a number of great alternatives to the stock launcher, and I would be willing to wager that many of them are more efficient and resource friendly than stock.
I personally use Nova, which I would recommend, but there are many people who would vouch for its competitors (Apex, GO Launcher, ADW, Trebuchet, etc..)
I'm not too familiar with the process of jailbreaking, or customizing iPhones, but I imagine it's going to be a learning curve going from iOS to Android. Read read read! Read all the instructions before you try something new with your device, and troubleshoot everything yourself before resorting to asking here. (This includes searching before starting a new thread, as your question will probably already have been answered somewhere.) Be polite and respectful and the community here should be good to you.
While I do not have an S3, my device (Note 2) is quite similar to yours. I'm certainly not the most versed member of the community, but I've been around the block a few times. If you ever get in a jam and need to ask a question, I would be more than happy to help, feel free to PM me.
Best of luck!
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What's xposed? Sorry
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it kind of works like cydia it has tweaks which u install and apply to xposed they are called modules like changing the clock on status bar or having center clock or custom carrier names
Just noticed that Flipboard uses the Air View option, in the home screen you can hover all over the topics and it gives you a preview of the articles, for me it's very cool, nice to see Samsung's features available on Third Parties apps.
And what you just had to make a stupid thread about it.....
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And what you just had to make a stupid thread about it.....
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I have always asked myself why on this great and other main forums, arrogant people that think themselves so above the rest, come to every thread to post a reply even more stupid than the one they critic.
This is first of all an informative forum, people come here to learn about their devices, so far I haven't seen anyone posting about it, so I came here to inform all of you about it, if you don't like it, just keep on moving, others may appreciate knowing about it.
That's all I have to say about your insult...
Unbelievable...
Good post, erasat.
The guy above just an idiot...I meant.. he was creating a thread on dropping the phone on concrete and was wondering about it.
Now that IS stupid!
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I have always asked myself why on this great and other main forums, arrogant people that think themselves so above the rest, come to every thread to post a reply even more stupid than the one they critic.
This is first of all an informative forum, people come here to learn about their devices, so far I haven't seen anyone posting about it, so I came here to inform all of you about it, if you don't like it, just keep on moving, others may appreciate knowing about it.
That's all I have to say about your insult...
Unbelievable...
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All that dude does is go around posting pointless insults. And not in the "search first, noob" kind of way, but rather in the "I don't get enough attention and have to take out my lack of self esteem on internet forums" kind of way.
Best way to deal with people (and I use the term loosely) like that is to completely ignore them. Nothing pisses of someone trying to seem important or insulting than completely disregarding what they're saying. You can't reason with ignorance. But you can piss it off by ignoring it.
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And what you just had to make a stupid thread about it.....
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Lol, some people... good response OP.
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Actually some of these "gimmicky" features, as some people refer to them, need highlighted. So, thanks OP--:0
And yes a few here take every opportunity to bash someone, they are on every Forum I have been on from day one. Just best not to respond. Playing Devil's advocate though, I do sometimes respond to those who want the step by step answer with no research on their own. Main reason I don't like that is that they are doing themselves a disservice by not learning the how and why things are done the way they are in flashing roms. It will come back to haunt them.
I actually use a number of these features and they work very well. Except :eye" scrolling. Hopefully that will be improved and hope app devs and Goolge allow more programs to use these features.
There are too many negative comments on these features here and in reviews along with the screen issue to cause people to hesitate buying this phone. So, these goodies need highlighted in these threads from time to time. It is absolutely a fantastic phone. Functional and Fun at the same time--
Best I have ever owned. Not that I didn't love my Nexus One and HTC One S, but technology just keeps producing better products. And 5 inch is perfect screen size for me.
I agree, good post. I have been trying to figure out how to use air view but it just won't work for me (tried it on the gallery). What other apps work with it?
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I personally found this thread useful. I didn't know that airview worked with flipboard. Pretty cool!
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Just noticed that Flipboard uses the Air View option, in the home screen you can hover all over the topics and it gives you a preview of the articles, for me it's very cool, nice to see Samsung's features available on Third Parties apps.
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Just tried it! AWESOME! any other third party apps that use it? Let me know :good:
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I agree, good post. I have been trying to figure out how to use air view but it just won't work for me (tried it on the gallery). What other apps work with it?
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It will work on Flip Board and Stock Calendar. Do you have it selected in Options?
Can't recall what others atm
EDIT: Oh, works on speed dial--hover over number and contact comes up. don't have to memorize my speed dials now--
Also, by accident had it work on Music Player. If you hover over the lower Next and Previous symbols it will tell you next/previous song. These are when Music player is full screen with Album Art.
Hi everyone, my name is Powky and I'm new here on the XDA forums.
Well... I was thinking and want to know your opinion about the idea.
My idea is: create a ROM based on iOS7. Yes, I know, many people think about that (and is possible to be some ROM iOS based but I don't know it), but I have to tell something, I wish to do a ROM based on the look of iOS7 in ALL the aspects, ALL!
The animations, the icons, the style, etc.. Just all.
I am... New? Well, I'm new on the forums but I have all the basic stuff to know about Android and some medium ones.
And I need a little favor, if you guys can please tell me all the basic stuff about create a ROM, thinks to study first, and all about developing ROM...
Wish to you guys agree with this idea to make this imagination to reality.
Good night to everybody ?
(Sorry if you guys don't understand my English, I speak Spanish ?)
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why dont u buy an iphone then, if u want all aspects of ios7, closest thing youll get is Miui V6 rom
Don't be rude mvr...
PowkyE: Thats already exist, its called Miui. But learning its always great, dont dessist
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When I see (or hear) the letter "i" followed by any word whatsoever, my entire body contorts grotesquely and I start whispering gibberish to myself. So, thanks. Yeah, thanks a lot, Pal.
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When I see (or hear) the letter "i" followed by any word whatsoever, my entire body contorts grotesquely and I start whispering gibberish to myself. So, thanks. Yeah, thanks a lot, Pal.
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LOL. Thanks for the laugh.
OP. Don't even think about it. Apples lawyers will eat you. That would be patent/copyright infringement. I mean if they can patent rounded corners they can do anything.
Not funny...
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Hi everyone, my name is Powky and I'm new here on the XDA forums.
Well... I was thinking and want to know your opinion about the idea.
My idea is: create a ROM based on iOS7. Yes, I know, many people think about that (and is possible to be some ROM iOS based but I don't know it), but I have to tell something, I wish to do a ROM based on the look of iOS7 in ALL the aspects, ALL!
The animations, the icons, the style, etc.. Just all.
I am... New? Well, I'm new on the forums but I have all the basic stuff to know about Android and some medium ones.
And I need a little favor, if you guys can please tell me all the basic stuff about create a ROM, thinks to study first, and all about developing ROM...
Wish to you guys agree with this idea to make this imagination to reality.
Good night to everybody ��
(Sorry if you guys don't understand my English, I speak Spanish ��)
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Here are some IOS 7 launchers to start with https://play.google.com/store/search?q=ios 7 launcher&hl=nl. Look on Google for everything about how to build android roms. Plenty info available.
I can understand that people like iOS UI but what is the aim of building a complete 'iOS ROM'?
As suggested you should first try xposed modules, launchers, icon packs, custom themes...
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Don't be rude mvr...
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He didn't seem rude to me. He asked a question and then suggested an alternative. And it was a legitimate question. The OP stated he wanted to create a ROM the same as IOS7 in ALL aspects (his emphasis). It really does beg the question why not just get an iPhone in the first place. I'm not trying to be an ass, I just don't get it.
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...why not just get an iPhone in the first place...
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Maybe because it's puny.
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Maybe because it's puny.
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Also smells of rotting apple's!
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He didn't seem rude to me. He asked a question and then suggested an alternative. And it was a legitimate question. The OP stated he wanted to create a ROM the same as IOS7 in ALL aspects (his emphasis). It really does beg the question why not just get an iPhone in the first place. I'm not trying to be an ass, I just don't get it.
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I understand your point of view toward their reactions, but if it was the first time that someone gives that type of answers to a new-comming OP, it would be more acceptable. However, whenever someone comes with the idea of porting or creating a OEM Rom to the affordable and very open source Nexus 5, there you will find a anti-development crew suggesting to buy a much more expensive device as a solution. Why not tell them the reasons of why it's difficult to port a Rom or where to look for help, instead of telling to spend their school money?
I could be wrong, but I ts not so welcoming for them.
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I understand your point of view toward their reactions, but if it was the first time that someone gives that type of answers to a new-comming OP, it would be more acceptable. However, whenever someone comes with the idea of porting or creating a OEM Rom to the affordable and very open source Nexus 5, there you will find a anti-development crew suggesting to buy a much more expensive device as a solution. Why not tell them the reasons of why it's difficult to port a Rom or where to look for help, instead of telling to spend their school money?
I could be wrong, but I ts not so welcoming for them.
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Maybe because it's puny.
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That's true. I guess if Apple made a thinner, lighter phone with a larger screen fewer people would be looking for a ported IOS rom.
Well, it's OK...
Another point I want to take is the fact of the iOS launchers... There are all buggy, I want to make the ROM completely like iOS7 and I don't want to buy a iPhone (as my "friend" mrv said) because one thing: why I should to buy an iPhone of 700$ to have the ui when I have another phone with the price of 400-500$ and better than the iPhone?
That's my point of view, and you're all right, there is MIUI but I was using the launcher and is not completely like I want it...
So... I only want opinions, I will try to do it, I don't care if there are apple-haters... I don't really like the iPhone because there are to small, to close and all that ****, the only thing I like (and not only me) is the ui, and I want to ported for my beautiful android.
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Well, in all seriousness, welcome to the forum and best of luck with your project.
Hi.
I don't post much, I know, but I've been a lurker for quite a while. Anyway, long story short, I had a SGS for a while and by then (when it was new and shiny and the best thing of the world) every (or almost every) custom rom had something that distinguished it from the others (even with all the locked and closed source stuff). Either a new launcher, supercharged scripts, themes... you probably know what I mean. Fast-forward to 2014 and here I am with a brand new Nexus 5 with readily available source and binaries... I mean it's the or one of the most open phones in the world.
But, every custom ROM, be it stock or CM based, looks the same to me. Sure, names differ a lot (Dark UI, Black Carbon Fibers or whatever it is) but the overall functionality is the same. Innovation (or Imagination?) is near null values.
Apart from a few (SlimKat comes to mind even tho it has much of the functionality of the others, it's quite small in size compared) every rom looks the same. Not to mention there is quite less roms available for the device than for others.
Note that by saying this I mean no disrespect to the cookers or kitchen teams. Their work is highly appreciated.
Is it just me? Am I missing something?
Because every dev is building their ROMs using the same source.
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Hi.
I don't post much, I know, but I've been a lurker for quite a while. Anyway, long story short, I had a SGS for a while and by then (when it was new and shiny and the best thing of the world) every (or almost every) custom rom had something that distinguished it from the others (even with all the locked and closed source stuff). Either a new launcher, supercharged scripts, themes... you probably know what I mean. Fast-forward to 2014 and here I am with a brand new Nexus 5 with readily available source and binaries... I mean it's the or one of the most open phones in the world.
But, every custom ROM, be it stock or CM based, looks the same to me. Sure, names differ a lot (Dark UI, Black Carbon Fibers or whatever it is) but the overall functionality is the same. Innovation (or Imagination?) is near null values.
Apart from a few (SlimKat comes to mind even tho it has much of the functionality of the others, it's quite small in size compared) every rom looks the same. Not to mention there is quite less roms available for the device than for others.
Note that by saying this I mean no disrespect to the cookers or kitchen teams. Their work is highly appreciated.
Is it just me? Am I missing something?
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by look the same, you mean theming? you can do your own theming. nexus devices are lucky, they have access to source and the binaries, the other devices dont. from what i see, most other devices try to get aosp working on them, but dont fully or in a non hacky way. so they try other stuff with their roms, like more theming. people mostly buy nexus devices because they lack all the oem thrown in stuff and run pure android. the developers buy nexus devices for the same reason. generally, there isnt much demand for theming a nexus rom. nexus people like the basic android ui, as well as the developers. plus, id say that the over all age of nexus users is a little older than other android phones, and theming is more prefered by children and teenagers.
oh, and btw, nexus developers only use open source code, as its illegal to publish anything public using closed sourced code. anyways, nexus is all ooen source code, except for the binaries.
While all my examples were about theming, I didn't want to focus just on theming. I don't see roms using custom launchers or even a custom theme or kernel.. Nor do they integrate apps from other devices or from the market/devs here on XDA. Every cm11 based rom is pretty much the same functionality wise and I don't even want to talk about the stock based ones.
I thought that nexus owners being them users or developers bought the devices because it would be easier to use or create custom roms for them due to the openness of the system.
Also if it is illegal to post stuff with closed source code (and I know it is) why do all the other devices have a ****load of roms with proprietary stuff in them?? They're still pretty much available here (I'm thinking of the live with Walkman forum)..
Most roms there have stuff from newer and better devices which do actually work and that phone is really poor on terms of hardware specs.
It seems to me that most cookers for the nexus 5 are cooking the same dish but calling it different names because they might plate it In a different way.
It's a bit late now for me now, but I guess sooner or later I'm going to create a deviation of the rom list available as a Google document here and try every rom and compare them feature wise. So I can know for sure if I'm right with what I say here or if it's just a product of my imagination.
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While all my examples were about theming, I didn't want to focus just on theming. I don't see roms using custom launchers or even a custom theme or kernel.. Nor do they integrate apps from other devices or from the market/devs here on XDA. Every cm11 based rom is pretty much the same functionality wise and I don't even want to talk about the stock based ones.
I thought that nexus owners being them users or developers bought the devices because it would be easier to use or create custom roms for them due to the openness of the system.
Also if it is illegal to post stuff with closed source code (and I know it is) why do all the other devices have a ****load of roms with proprietary stuff in them?? They're still pretty much available here (I'm thinking of the live with Walkman forum)..
Most roms there have stuff from newer and better devices which do actually work and that phone is really poor on terms of hardware specs.
It seems to me that most cookers for the nexus 5 are cooking the same dish but calling it different names because they might plate it In a different way.
It's a bit late now for me now, but I guess sooner or later I'm going to create a deviation of the rom list available as a Google document here and try every rom and compare them feature wise. So I can know for sure if I'm right with what I say here or if it's just a product of my imagination.
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well, then nexus romming wont be right for you.
on second thought, the nexus 5 is definitely not right for you.
there are many roms that include custom kernels. and, there is a large number of custom kernels that you yourself can CHOOSE to flash on your own.
and the thing about nexus devices, all of them, is that they dont include bloat. which is another reason people buy them. the far majority of people here dont want roms to add more apps. again, you can do that on your own. it gives you choice of what you want, and you dont. many here like roms debloated.
and you talk about cm as its something big. cm isnt big for the nexus 5, its aosp. thats what people want. they want the pureness. not the over-hacked bloated of a rom. and again, thats what people buy nexus devices. we have full source. no over hackery needed, its clean and pure.
the proprietary stuff comes with the phones already, so people that buy those phones have a right to it. anyways, people that arent part of open source steal it. sometimes they get in trouble, sometimes they dont. legally, they can get in trouble if they distribute it. people that are part of open source respect others rights, and adhere to the rules and practices.
and there are two kinds of developer forums here, if you haven't noticed. android development and original development. in original development, they create an original piece of work. in android development, they take whats already out there, and do what they want with it.
it also seems as you think of the same and original works are about features. well, they are not. most of it is going to be inside the rom itself. like things that add speed, smoothness, and efficiency. most of the features are just added into the roms later, what its users like.
there are so many ways that you can make a rom your own, original. there are multitudes of ways you can mod what you are running. be creative, set it up as you personally like. make it yours.
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I'm going to create a deviation of the rom list available as a Google document here and try every rom and compare them feature wise. So I can know for sure if I'm right with what I say here or if it's just a product of my imagination.
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Don't post it here. It will be against the rules.
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Whatever you say we all love our Nexus 5 and what it offers..
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Whatever you say we all love our Nexus 5 and what it offers..
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I do love mine as well.
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Don't post it here. It will be against the rules.
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Really? There's one already available here (even tho it's outdated), that I found out in the OP of this Stickied Thread
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well, then nexus romming wont be right for you.
on second thought, the nexus 5 is definitely not right for you.
there are many roms that include custom kernels. and, there is a large number of custom kernels that you yourself can CHOOSE to flash on your own.
and the thing about nexus devices, all of them, is that they dont include bloat. which is another reason people buy them. the far majority of people here dont want roms to add more apps. again, you can do that on your own. it gives you choice of what you want, and you dont. many here like roms debloated.
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Well, I never meant to say that I wanted bloated roms. I understand the Nexus thing with AOSP, I really do. But while I agree that it having AOSP with full source and absolutely no bloat is its greater selling point (and one of the reasons I bought it), I'd think that if people with "closed devices" are tinkering with their devices in order to make them faster/nicer/prettier/<insert adjective here>, that a device for which there is full source and binary blobs compatible with every android version released after the device's released date, people would be more inclined to make custom roms that differ a bit more/offer more functionaly than AOSP. One of the things with open-source is freedom of choice, and sure, if you want pureness by all means go AOSP, but what if you don't? While AOSP is pure, it's lacking quite some features we've come to love on other phones...
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and you talk about cm as its something big. cm isnt big for the nexus 5, its aosp. thats what people want. they want the pureness. not the over-hacked bloated of a rom. and again, thats what people buy nexus devices. we have full source. no over hackery needed, its clean and pure.
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Again, see my previous point. If we have full source, we should have less issues while creating something more functional, prettier than people with closed devices.
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the proprietary stuff comes with the phones already, so people that buy those phones have a right to it. anyways, people that arent part of open source steal it. sometimes they get in trouble, sometimes they dont. legally, they can get in trouble if they distribute it. people that are part of open source respect others rights, and adhere to the rules and practices.
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Sure they have rights to it, as long as it is from the same device. Having a Xperia Z1 or T lockscreen or system UI on a LWW rom tho? I know it's illegal (on most countries) yet it is "accepted" here. I don't want stuff from another phone in my Nexus, but in the market there are so many good alternatives to AOSP/CM defaults that I find it strange that everyone is using either the AOSP Launcher (which has almost nil features and settings) or Launcher3 (or whatever it's called, which has like 1 or 2 more features than the AOSP launcher) and this is just a simple example.
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Really? There's one already available here (even tho it's outdated), that I found out in the OP of this Stickied Thread
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Thats a list of roms, kernels and mods. It just gives people links. It does not seek to compare. Its comparison that is not allowed
rootSU said:
Thats a list of roms, kernels and mods. It just gives people links. It does not seek to compare. Its comparison that is not allowed
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he's talking about the google excel spreadsheet that compares the features. its a link in the thread.
Zepius said:
he's talking about the google excel spreadsheet that compares the features. its a link in the thread.
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I guess it's been missed by the moderators then as any comparison is against the rules.
rootSU said:
I guess it's been missed by the moderators then as any comparison is against the rules.
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Is this an xda-wide rule? I've seen posts such as this one for quite a while now.
source: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-s/general/war-obscurity-enter-risk-t2551028
Xeon3D said:
If we have full source, we should have less issues while creating something more functional, prettier than people with closed devices.
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You mean you expect devs here to build a rom that is quite similar to touchwiz, sense, and miui?
Xeon3D said:
Again, see my previous point. If we have full source, we should have less issues while creating something more functional, prettier than people with closed devices.
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prettier.. you do realized pretty is in the eye of the beholder? whats pretty to you is ugly as sin to me.
anyways, about creating something new and more functional.. the devs here work for free, on their own time. they have full time jobs, families, kids, and so on. they dont get paid for their efforts, or otberwise rewarded. where are they supposed to get the time for it? by the time they cteate something new, a new version of android will come out, and what they made will be looked past, among other things. maybe if we had full time xda devs.
what you need to do is create a rom yourself, or "shut up". as what you are posting is very disrespectful to the developers that we do have here.
rootSU said:
I guess it's been missed by the moderators then as any comparison is against the rules.
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The forum rules don't say anything about this. The only thing that seems similar is the "no best rom threads," but there's nothing about not being allowed to create a comparison thread.
Anyway, I think there are a few reasons for what the OP is saying.
The SGS ran a custom manufacturer skin, so you would have an assortment of TouchWiz ROMs and AOSP ROMs that would seem to lead to more variety.
Although it has always been possible to run a custom launcher, Google has made it much easier/more seamlessly integrated with the addition of the Home settings. There's no real reason to integrate a custom launcher unless you're building your own, which CM does still include.
With the Theme Engine you don't see too many ROMs integrating their own themes. SlimKat does still have TRDS which is basically a custom theme.
raptir said:
The forum rules don't say anything about this. The only thing that seems similar is the "no best rom threads," but there's nothing about not being allowed to create a comparison thread.
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It's right up there in the general forum. It's a STICKIE! I don't know how you missed it.
Anyways here's the thread made by a moderator where it's clearly written that any kind of comparison threads aren't allowed:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/message-moderators-users-please-read-t2500184
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ej8989 said:
Is this an xda-wide rule?
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Yes it is. Comparison threads are frowned upon everywhere.
vin4yak said:
It's right up there in the general forum. It's a STICKIE! I don't know how you missed it.
Anyways here's the thread made by a moderator where it's clearly written that any kind of comparison threads aren't allowed:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/message-moderators-users-please-read-t2500184
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Yes it is. Comparison threads are frowned upon everywhere.
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IMHO, the list about OP is talking about is much more a "feature list" than a "comparison list".
vfmmeo said:
IMHO, the list about OP is talking about is much more a "feature list" than a "comparison list".
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I didn't quote the OP, did I?? I was replying to the other two.
vfmmeo said:
IMHO, the list about OP is talking about is much more a "feature list" than a "comparison list".
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lol, the op is NOT talking features. he wants to compare Roms for oiriginality, that isn't a feature list.
vin4yak said:
It's right up there in the general forum. It's a STICKIE! I don't know how you missed it.
Anyways here's the thread made by a moderator where it's clearly written that any kind of comparison threads aren't allowed:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/message-moderators-users-please-read-t2500184
I missed it because we're in the Q&A forum not the general forum
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simms22 said:
lol, the op is NOT talking features. he wants to compare Roms for oiriginality, that isn't a feature list.
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Xeon3D said:
It's a bit late now for me now, but I guess sooner or later I'm going to create a deviation of the rom list available as a Google document here and try every rom and compare them feature wise. So I can know for sure if I'm right with what I say here or if it's just a product of my imagination.
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