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Hello,
I am planning to buy a tablet this month. I am a medical student who wants to use the tablet mainly for pdf eBook reading, web browsing, -playing games sometimes, and writing notes and schedules. Here i am really confused. Should i go for 32 gb xoom 499$ or 32 gb galaxy tab 599$
Please give me some suggestions. I am getting tired of reading 5star reviews of these two competitors everyday.
The xoom has connections built in so you don't need to go buy adapters like you do for the galaxy tab 10.1. The galaxy tab is very thin but it feels cheap and weak. The xoom is built like a tank and yes it is a bit heavier but honestly you get used to it after a couple hours. If you live in states you will get all updates direct from Google so that's a plus.
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agreed with the post above. I just played with the galaxy tab 10.1 at best buy today, I have the xoom and I must say I like the xoom better. It is pretty much connection built in or buy the connections, lightweight or middle weight (i dont think its THAT heavy =P)
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OMG DEFINITELY XOOM. Just bought my xoom from staples. Galaxy tab doesnt have any way of adding storage (GAY!!!!!!) and the 16gb model is same as 32 gb xoom. Screw that noise. Not to mention the Galaxy tab is made from melted down kids meal toys. Get the xoom and you wont regret that decision.
Seriously
Seriously i love samsung and their products. (own a samsung epic 4g) But they seriously messed up with the new galaxy tab. So that makes 2 disappointing tablets they made. They may just need to stick to making phones.
I traded in my two week old Galaxy tab for Xoom yesterday because of the $100 Staples coupon. $399 Xoom definitely beats $599 Galaxy.
pros to galaxy: the difference in weight is noticeable; galaxy wins. Screen quality is better. Speakers are way better; touchwiz, the soon-to-be-released-but-easily-installed ui is nice, and includes an excellent pdf reader
pros to Xoom: much more stability in software function: less keyboard lag, better response to screen orientation changes, etc. Overall much smoother experience. I think updated android is partly to thank, but that too is a significant advantage to xoom.
I had the Xoom, returned it for the Transformer, then returned the Transformer for the Galaxy tab 10.1. I will be keeping the 10.1 and love it.
The Xoom screen is TERRIBLE and it's way too heavy. And up until recently the Xoom was the most expensive tablet on the market, despite having the worst features.
The Transformer was just a big POS. Software was extremely slow on laggy, build quality was abysmal.
I have no need for microSD or HDMI so that was no big deal for me. what I wanted was a light tablet with a wonderful screen and high build quality. The Galaxy tab 10.1 is the only one that gives me that.
What the Xoom has going for it is that it is the first to get Honeycomb updates, and it's built like a tank (in a good way, meaning it's sturdy).
I would use the $100 Staples coupon and get the Galaxy Tab 10.1. Thankfully it is still shipping without Touchwiz, since I don't like how Touchwiz tries to make Honeycomb look like iOS (seriously Samsung, get off of Apple's nuts already, it's embarrassing).
I personally think the flyer would be better suited for a medical environment.
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Hello,
I am planning to buy a tablet this month. I am a medical student who wants to use the tablet mainly for pdf eBook reading, web browsing, -playing games sometimes, and writing notes and schedules. Here i am really confused. Should i go for 32 gb xoom 499$ or 32 gb galaxy tab 599$
Please give me some suggestions. I am getting tired of reading 5star reviews of these two competitors everyday.
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if your going to get a SGT 10.1 expect to return them A LOT. They have screen issues and if they don't happen in the first day then they will happen in the first week.
Hello everyone.
I'm a economic sciences student and i'm looking for a new Tablet which can make my student life easier and of course entertain me a bit.
I want a Tablet to read PDF files. Also i want to use it for Multimedia like watching Movies, playing Games and i want to use it for car Navigation.
One other question is if a 7 inch Screen is enough for all those tasks , but of course not all at the same time :laugh:
Taking notes is not that important because I'm still faster taking notes "analog" then "digital".
I almost decided to buy the Nexus 7 but then i've seen a review of the Galaxy Note 10.1 and now i can't decide anymore.
All my friends are saying : buy the N7, its the best Tablet atm. Like i said i don't know if i like 7 inches and if its ideal for reading PDF's.
I also miss the 3G connection because because I use car Navigation a lot and real time traffic reports are important for me .
The Phone and Message features that are included in the Note are awesome, but i heared many times now that the Display is not so good @the Note 10.1.
The N7 has already a big development community and that is what I'm also feared by the Note 10.1 because i like to flash my devices and reach with them the best performance.
It would be very nice if sombody could give me a advice because i'm getting tired of searching pro and contras
I'll toss in my 2 cents...
We have both tablets at our house - love them both. My son uses the Nexus in school with a bluetooth keyboard case and can do papers with it and print wireless to our printer at the house. The screen on the Nexus 7 is same resolution as the Note 10.1 (1280X800) but in a smaller package so everything seems just a little bit sharper (note 10.1 screen is also great, I have no complaints with it). if most of what your doing is consumption type activities (reading, watching movies, playing games etc..) then the Nexus accomplishes that very well. The only down side (for me) on the Nexus 7 is no extra micro SD slot for storage, my son uses a dongle to plug in a USB drive and that works well. Overall the Nexus is a very fluid great looking/working devise and you would not go wrong in getting one.
Now the Note 10.1 - Love this one too. For me I value a larger screen, I just cant get used to going back to a smaller 7" screen after using a 10" one (personal preference). Overall performance is very good on the Note and performs all the functions the Nexus 7 does just as well, I can only guess it will get better with JB upgrade coming soon. But where the Note 10.1 really shines for me is the use of the S pen - I use the S pen all day taking notes and using the multi tasking that this tablet has incorporated into it. For you however this big plus may not be the advantage it is for me, based on what you said you wanted to use the tablet for. It almost seems like you should be looking at other options...just straight newer Tegra 3 type tablets and not just limiting yourself to just these two options. As an example my older Transformer TF101 will do everything you just outlined you wanted a tablet to do and its over a year old now (granted not as smooth as the newer, faster tablets now).
So not sure if you looked at the newer Asus, sony, or other tablets but I'd at least keep my options open. All of the newer tablets work very well in doing what you want, they will all have their pros/cons and design flaws that could have been implemented better. My suggestion is you read up more on some real user reviews on the whole range of newer tablets (if you haven't already) and get more of an idea of the options you have, and lets face it...more options is always a great thing!
Also there is the price point - you never mentioned if that was a factor - the Nexus 7 does seem the best you can get in that price range ($200 - 250). $500 for the lower 16GB Note 10.1 your paying in part for options you will not use (S-pen/active digitizer).
Hope this helps...
Hi, i bought yesterday the N7 and sold it today. I didn't like it at all.
I will look now for the 10.1. I also looked for the Infinity Pad but i read that it has a lot of problems and also i like the 3G feature on the 10.1N and the micro sd card slot
Push , it would be very nice if some other users could share their experience.
It would be also nice to know what the difference between the N8000 and the N8013 Model is
I own both GN 10.1 and Nexus 7. If I had to choose one it would definitely be the GN 10.1 for its versatility and capability for all your requirements. The one area where Nexus 7 has an edge is one-hand portability for in car use and for GPS. If you can afford it get both.
I don't mind to use the GN 10.1 for car navigation^^
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I don't mind to use the GN 10.1 for car navigation^^
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That's another reason to get the Note then! I would definitely recommend this tablet as it is very stable and pretty much does everything you would need it to do based on your requirements listed.
The best thing would be for you to purchase one from a store that has a good returns policy and try it out for yourself to make sure it meets most if not all of your requirements, if you are happy, keep it and if not return it.
I chose to keep mine and do not have any regrets.
I have both, and I think 10.1 screen is much more comfortable than 7... Also, Note 10.1 features are amazing...
I just bought my Note 10.1 today and will use it in my abnormal psych class tomorrow. I was impressed the Kno app had my text books for download. To bad I had already bought them for all my classes. This would have saved me money. I also downloaded the Blackboard app and it looks great on this beast. I hope the keyboard comes to the states soon that will be a great added feature for class.
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I just got the 8013 Note 10.1 yesterday and it is really brilliant. I downloaded all the pdfs for my Real Analysis math class and the S-pen works flawlessly. What's great is it also works seamlessly with EzPdf which I love to use. Since the 8013 is wifi only I'm not sure how it will help with gps if you make a wrong turn though.. It came with ICS 4.0.4 but I hear JB is out soon. I haven't rooted Samsung products before so I'm going to wait till some flawless root method comes out. Battery life is much longer than I had anticipated. Haven't charged it yet since it has been out of the box yesterday and there is still 65% left- I wonder how long a full charge will last ^^, good luck!
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I just got the 8013 Note 10.1 yesterday and it is really brilliant. I downloaded all the pdfs for my Real Analysis math class and the S-pen works flawlessly. What's great is it also works seamlessly with EzPdf which I love to use. Since the 8013 is wifi only I'm not sure how it will help with gps if you make a wrong turn though.. It came with ICS 4.0.4 but I hear JB is out soon. I haven't rooted Samsung products before so I'm going to wait till some flawless root method comes out. Battery life is much longer than I had anticipated. Haven't charged it yet since it has been out of the box yesterday and there is still 65% left- I wonder how long a full charge will last ^^, good luck!
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Get a navigation app (Sygic is what I use) that allows for offline navigation. Basically you pre download entire maps like a normally functioning gps unit has. With Google maps you can only download a set area around your destination if I remember correctly.
Once you have an offline navigation app feel free to get lost.
or Navigon Navigation. Thanks to you all who answered to this thread. You are making it much easier for me
Sorry to hijack your thread but i am in the exact same predicament i was about to pull the trigger on the Nexus 7 but the Note 10.1 was released and i'm debating whether to take the plunge. Can anyone comment on battery life, output to tv on the note and also do any of you find the tablet useful when having a phone such as a Galaxy S3
Yet again sorry to hijack
For my first initial charge yesterday, I got just over 8 hours with 80% screen time and 12% battery life left. Thats without the battery being settled and me playing on it all afternoon and evening. A couple more cycles and I expect it to get better. I have the Galaxy Note phone and paired the two but havn't tried anything between them yet. Not sure you can like the Blackberry's phones and Playbook. Going to have to look into it.
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From what I can gather media can be shared between devices through Samsungs Allshare app which connects through wifi. I am at work and cant set it up right now, but from what I have seen its like DLNA except exclusive to Samsung devices that contain the app.
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Just FYI, after three hours of note taking in two classes, there isnt even a hint of a scratch from using the stylus. Takes a little getting used to but it works great. Between S Note and Polaris Office I prefer using Polaris for my class notes. The handwritting to text works better and also has prediction. No more trying to decipher my chicken scratch before a test. I can also save in word format or PDF when done and then just upload it to dropbox to sync to my other devices.
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Hi.
I would like to ask the owners of this tablet if they have replaced their cintiqs and/or drawing tablets with the note 10.1. If yes, why did you replace your tools with the 10.1. If not, why not?
I'm still on the fence about buying this for the sake of just drawing when I still have my slow yet capable m200 tablet pc and I already own an ipad1 and an xperia play.
fvig2001 said:
Hi.
I would like to ask the owners of this tablet if they have replaced their cintiqs and/or drawing tablets with the note 10.1. If yes, why did you replace your tools with the 10.1. If not, why not?
I'm still on the fence about buying this for the sake of just drawing when I still have my slow yet capable m200 tablet pc and I already own an ipad1 and an xperia play.
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Oh this thing is SO much faster.... got this cus I haven't been able to afford a cintiq... so this was my compromise. 1) SUPER bright, so drawing outside, in daylight is possible. Working with color only requires a little shade---like plein aire painting. 2)portability. 3) this far superior to either ipad or Sony. If ur an artist, I can't imagine why you wouldn't want one of these.... unless you're a sculptor....
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This too was my compromise in place of a cintiq; I've been super busy with tangible media for classes that i havent been able to pour as much time into it as i'd like, but while i'm bored to death in art history, you bet i've got a million unrelated drawings tucked into my notes.
Replace? no. Add to the tools set? yes.
Asking the Note 10.1 to replace my Cintiq is way too much to ask. But I wish it would replace my older Intel Core Duo tablet pc. It doesn't do even that. I decided to test my cintiq using ubuntu desktop OS and it was not as good as Windows. I remember trying linux on my tablet PC a couple of years ago with similar results. Somethings up with the wacom drivers in Linux. This could explain why the awesome Note 10.1 hardware doesn't match even an older tablet pc wacom line quality. Wacom is only as good as its driver let it be.
I bought the Note 10.1 to replace my lenovo android TPT. TPT doesn't work well with TVpaint beta or Sketchbook pro. The Note 10.1 is very good with these apps. If all you want to do is doodle (the backbone of great art!) try to get a TPT on ebay paying no more that $250. A TPT for that price beats the Note 10.1 easily. The TPT works perfectly for sketching in Markers, Quill or Papyrus beta.
I draw on the TPT outside and the Note 10.1 inside. I put on bluetooth headphones and listen to music or audio book from the Note 10.1 while drawing laying on the couch!
My advice is since every artist needs to draw and draw constantly get the Note 10.1 and re-gift your other tablets as Christmas presents.
I have around $270 and I would like to buy a new device with it. I don't know whether to buy the 16gb iPod touch 5th gen to replace my aging 4th gen iPod touch, or a large tablet such as the nook HD+. Does anyone have any suggestions of a good device for $270 or less? I am going to use this device for mainly gaming, watching videos, and surfing the internet. I also am not looking for a 7 inch tablet because I have a fairly new galaxy tab 2 7.0 that is working great and won't need replacing for a while. Thanks in advance.
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I have around $270 and I would like to buy a new device with it. I don't know whether to buy the 16gb iPod touch 5th gen to replace my aging 4th gen iPod touch, or a large tablet such as the nook HD+. Does anyone have any suggestions of a good device for $270 or less? I am going to use this device for mainly gaming, watching videos, and surfing the internet. I also am not looking for a 7 inch tablet because I have a fairly new galaxy tab 2 7.0 that is working great and won't need replacing for a while. Thanks in advance.
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Kinda confused since you already have a Galaxy Tab 7", and now you're wanting something for watching videos and browsing the internet and you're considering an iPod touch for that?? The Nook HD+ is really nice but a iPod touch and an Nook HD+ couldn't be further apart in similarities.
All I can say is the HD+ is very, very nice (especially with Jelly Bean installed on it). One of the best screens out there and plenty fast. If you want small, light, and the Apple iTunes Store, get the iPod. Otherwise, for $149 you can't go wrong with the Nook HD+ 16GB (or $179 for the 32GB).
Well I want something that is very portable and that I can work out with, but I also want something with a larger screen. I just want to get peoples opinions of the best devices in the price range I'm looking at. I am not to sure about the iPod because I really don't like iOS much and greatly prefer android although there are almost no good android mp3 players. If Samsung does announce the rumored galaxy player 2 at its June 20th event then the iPod would be out of the question definitely.
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I have a samsung galaxy tab A 10.1 with S-Pen, and I find it pretty alright. However, as an artist, the size and processor are quite the deal-breakers, size because 10.1 is too small (a complain I'm hell of a lot sure is uncommon to hear, haha), and processor because artist apps are processor-heavy, the less processing power and ram you have, the less you can do, and the laggier the brushes will be. In that regard, the A 10.1 passes pretty alright, but it's still very noticeable that it's quite a weak beast (heck, the A 10.1 can't run minecraft unless you reduce the settings a lot, why?)
Anyways, the point is, someone in my city is selling a factory refurbished Note Pro 12.2, and I was wondering if I should buy it or just stay with the Tab A 10.1, is the Note Pro 12.2 processor powerful enough to run multiple layers in, let's say, Cloverpaint without the brush lagging like crazy? How about the paralax, is it abnormally horrid like the surface pro 2? or is it pretty good like the tab A with SPen line? How long will the battery last while drawing? (The tab A lasts for about 3 to 4 hours for intensive painting sessions). Can I add a custom rom without screwing up the pen capabilities, and if it can be done, can I still work with multiwindows (multitasking)? Will my Bamboo Smart pen will work with the Note 12.2?
I'm worried because, although it will be just 200 bucks, it's still 200 bucks that will go down the toilet if this tablet doesn't meet my artistic expectations. I got my eyes on this because of the 32gb of storage and the octacore processor, as well as those delicious 12 inches of screen and stereo speakers (I listen to music while I draw), and also to send this side buttons to hell (seriously samsung why put the buttons on the side, they get on the way all the time!)
If someone here is also an artist and still uses this tablet, I'd absolutely love to hear your feedback about this device. I can safely say, from my side, that the Samsung Galaxy Tab A 10.1 is a gorgeous looking tablet with a beautiful screen, amazing battery life and some of the best pen technology I've used; but the issues that it has leave it only as a quick-doodling device, or as a artists entry-level tool, any professional should try to seek for something better (like the S3), because the Tab A 10.1 has a weak processor, a very small screen and only 16 gigs of storage that will really stop you from working comfortably. Not a bad device for the price, but as I said, not the very best for demanding sessions of complex artworks.
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I just realized that I posted this on the wrong section, sorry about that!
First of all the 10.1 Tab A sucks, it has **** resolution and aspect ratio. If I were you I'd buy the note 12.2. I don't use Clover Paint because the ****ing UI sucks. I personally use ArtFlow and ArtRage and ArtRage only lags on some tools due to the simulations it does (I draw with 3-5 layers at 2400x2400, 1600x2048, 2560x1280). The Bamboo pen would work but the parallax may be worse depending on the model you bought since you would need the Galaxy Note version to make it work well. With regards to battery, I think mine lasts pretty long. I generally draw for at least 30 minutes a day and like 2-3 hours on weekends and I charge only once a week (I only draw and upload the images). Custom roms would only work on certain models based on what I've read. The multiwindow would use Google's native implementation usually. It's okay but I never use it. Parallax is okay just stay away from the edges of the screen and it's fine. With regards to professional use, I doubt you could honestly use only this to finish something for professional work.
For reference, I've drawn these images using just my phone:
http://imgur.com/a/0jGkF
Not an artist, so can't speak to the purely artistic end of things. I can, however, talk some about the comparison between my Note 12.1 and my wife's Note 10.1 (a step up, I believe, from the Tab you have). I am sorry I bought her the Note 10.1. My 12.2 Note Pro is my favorite piece of hardware (esp. w/ a logitech keyboard folder for it). Her Note 10.1 takes forever to charge and is a big pain to use while plugged in (because the plug is at the base of the tablet instead of on the side). It overall underwhelms while my Note 12.2 still seems elegant.
Again, not speaking to the art side. I have installed various art programs on my tablet, and played about. I think someone who knew what they were doing would find it quite productive.
Blessings.
I agree with the upper posts, now that I own a Note Pro 12.2 I came back to drawing without the need of large space or setup nor too much customizing brushes/UI as it is supposed to do in Photoshop on my desktop (even though I suggest you to get a good home setup with at least a Wacom Intuos Pro maybe M size to finish professional work, if you don't actually have one). I have tried a 10.1 and it's really a bit too small compared. I started tweaking with custom ROM with Note Pro 12.2 some months ago, they works great, actually I am on the wonderful Valera1978's Lineage OS 14.1 Nougat 7.2.1 for P905 Note Pro and except you'll miss the touchwiz s-pen official functions (things triggered when you slide out the pen, snote etc.) the drawing experience is great on Sketchbook, ArtRage, Painter and so on... In my limited experience custom roms can be much more snappier and efficient and can give you a debloated near stock experience which is strong thumbs up!
Mind a very important thing! You have to know which model you are purchasing, so let the seller inform you about that. Here in EU where I bought it's easy to find P905 which should be the one with a different chipset, improved for all I know. There are some p905 variant as p905v from Verizon or p907a that could be to avoid if you plan to use Custom ROM: some of them can't be rooted or there is no relevant ROM development. Be sure to dig in the forum with the search to get know which model could suit you best, many topics around.
Speaking of the pen, I can understand that the little s-pen stylus can tire your hand a lot if you work more than half an hour. There are topics where it has been sorted out which type of Wacom Bamboo Feel was properly designed to work with Note Pro 12.2 with minimal offset, the last and improved version is Wacom Bamboo Smart CS-310, though very rare to find. I own it and I can state drawing with that is great! You can find many topics covering the pen to choose and there is at least one major topic where you can learn how to hack your s-pen into a normal sized pen body to have a more comfortable experience.
Sorry for the bad english, cheers!
I am also not an artist, but I do want to say that I purchased a Note pro 12.2 on Ebay for $350 2 months ago, and I absolutely LOVE it! I bought a Logitech keyboard and Samsung S-Mouse for it as well, and I have been using it every single day.
The one drawback is that Samsung stopped issuing updates for the Note Pro after Lollipop 5.1.1. But I haven't found this to be a major issue. It has performed very well in my experience.
I would absolutely recommend making the Note Pro 12.2 your next tablet purchase. You can't buy one in stores, but you can get one on Ebay or Amazon For $300-$350. It is still one of the best tablets out there, in my opinion.
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Mind a very important thing! You have to know which model you are purchasing, so let the seller inform you about that. Here in EU where I bought it's easy to find P905 which should be the one with a different chipset, improved for all I know. There are some p905 variant as p905v from Verizon or p907a that could be to avoid if you plan to use Custom ROM: some of them can't be rooted or there is no relevant ROM development. Be sure to dig in the forum with the search to get know which model could suit you best, many topics around.
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I came back to do some reading in this forum and tried quite hard to get back the thread which taught me about main differences among the most common version of Note Pro 12.2. It has been quite annoying to find it back and I immediately tought of OP because it could be really useful to him, though I didn't quite catch for certain if the custom rom development scene is more healthy for sm-p900 or sm-p905, but I think the first could be. Anyway, I own a p905 and I can reassure you the custom rom scene is enough rich to give some valid alternatives to Stock ROM. This is the thread (alternatively you can search with exynos+snapdragon in search string, in the general Note Pro 12.2 forum): https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-pro-12/help/exynos-snapdragon-one-performer-t3564929
Cheers!