Need advice after OTA to lollipop 5.0.2 - Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Guys, I got the OTA to android 5.0.2 about a week back, but I'm tired of the poor performance. Nova 3 is now unplayable at parts where transparency is used. So, I was thinking to revert back to KitKat 4.4.4.
>>Will the performance improve after the next update, i.e., 5.1??<<
The dilemma I'm facing now, is to whether flash back to stock KitKat 4.4.4, or to flash cyanogenmod 11 using cwm recovery. I also want to know which one of the two will be easier and less problematic.
Thank you.

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[Q] about ROM updates and nexus 4

Hello,
since getting my nexus 4 couple of days ago, i've been reading all I can about rooting and such.
I think I got the gist of it but there are still some questions that bug me.
1) When installing a custom ROM what exactly the procedure for updating it. Do I need to reflash each time an update is out or can I use some kind of OTA style update ?
2) If I have 4.2.1 on my phone now, can I put for example a 4.2 or even a 4.1 ROM ? Can I go lower than that or it is impossible to go lower than what the phone comes with from the factory, in my case 4.2
3) I think i'll probably go with Cyanogen but they don t have a release build for 4.2 yet and I see nightlyes are released almost daily. Is there a simple way to receive the updates without reflashing ?
4) Can I mix kernels and ROMs or should I check which custom kernel each ROM maker recommends ?
thanks.

Can't update to Lollipop!

Hey guys, so I really need your help with this.
When I bought my phone it was on Kitkat 4.4.4, after a month, I got the Lollipop 5.0 update via OTA, updated and all ok, then after a while I got the 5.0.1 update, which had this major bug of memory leaking that kept draining battery like crazy.. So I kept searching on how to downgrade to Kitkat 4.4.4 and I followed all those steps to install Kitkat using fastboot/adb tools.. And it worked, I've been running Kitkat now for a week and it's amazing, no memory leak bug, no battery draining.
And just by curiosity, I tried to check the updates, but it says that my system is up to date.. I mean, it doesn't give me the Lollipop 5.0 update nor the 5.0.1.. What's up with that?
Does that mean that I can't update to Lollipop via OTA again? I just need some clarification about this if it is possible Screenshot has other information such as build number, kernel, etc..
PS: I have the CMW custom recovery installed, maybe that's what's stopping the OTA update?
Thanks guys ^^
The update isn't available to everyone all the time...it goes in batches..
Anyway you will eventually get the notification, but you wont be able to install it as you're modified. Anyway, no worries - you know how to do it manually now.
Silvers91 said:
Hey guys, so I really need your help with this.
When I bought my phone it was on Kitkat 4.4.4, after a month, I got the Lollipop 5.0 update via OTA, updated and all ok, then after a while I got the 5.0.1 update, which had this major bug of memory leaking that kept draining battery like crazy.. So I kept searching on how to downgrade to Kitkat 4.4.4 and I followed all those steps to install Kitkat using fastboot/adb tools.. And it worked, I've been running Kitkat now for a week and it's amazing, no memory leak bug, no battery draining.
And just by curiosity, I tried to check the updates, but it says that my system is up to date.. I mean, it doesn't give me the Lollipop 5.0 update nor the 5.0.1.. What's up with that?
Does that mean that I can't update to Lollipop via OTA again? I just need some clarification about this if it is possible Screenshot has other information such as build number, kernel, etc..
PS: I have the CMW custom recovery installed, maybe that's what's stopping the OTA update?
Thanks guys ^^
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Flash the factory image dude or install that

Need advice over downgrading

Guys, I got the OTA to android 5.0.2 about a week back, but I'm tired of the poor performance. Nova 3 is now unplayable at parts where transparency is used. So, I was thinking to revert back to KitKat 4.4.4.
Will the performance improve after the next update, i.e., 5.1??
The dilemma I'm facing now, is to whether flash back to stock KitKat 4.4.4, or to flash cyanogenmod 11 using cwm recovery. I also want to know which one of the two will be easier and less problematic.
Thank you.
OK, problem solved.
I installed cm11 using philz recovery. Now, the phone is blazing fast!
Did not downgrade to stock 4.4.4. Instead to cm11 4.4.4.

[Q] OTA update

Hi guys.
So AT&T released a software update to my d850, and it prompts to update each time I restart device, where I have to force stop/hibernate software updater.
I'm rooted on stock KK 4.4.2 and I'm comfortable with battery life, functionality, and the overall performance of g3. So I'm hesitant about the Lollipop upgrade, as I've never really bothered flashing any ROMs since I was satisfied with my g3 experience.
So can anyone give some pros/cons they've noticed with the stock Lolipop ? Is it worth the switch?
I have a general idea of what I would need to do to update. Unroot, restore the bloatware I have removed using LGs PC suite, update and root again. Or is there a flashable zip of the update that i can just download? I hit update during first prompt and I was stuck rebooting into TWRP so i had to flash an image recovery file to get back.
Best bet is to go read on the lounge and threads related to see all different all experiences
I agree that the lounge is probably the best place for answers to determine if you feel it is worth the effort. My personal experience was that lollipop didn't bring much new. Most was minor cosmetic stuff and I feel like performance is ever so slightly smoother but this could be a placebo. If you use xposed then sticking with KK for now is the way to go. The line can explain this more. If you choose to stay on KK for now, use TiBu to freeze and clear data of the software update to prevent the phone from nagging about the update. I updated out of curiosity mostly and since the use of xposed is not a big deal for me, I stock with L.
Shaxxi said:
Hi guys.
So AT&T released a software update to my d850, and it prompts to update each time I restart device, where I have to force stop/hibernate software updater.
I'm rooted on stock KK 4.4.2 and I'm comfortable with battery life, functionality, and the overall performance of g3. So I'm hesitant about the Lollipop upgrade, as I've never really bothered flashing any ROMs since I was satisfied with my g3 experience.
So can anyone give some pros/cons they've noticed with the stock Lolipop ? Is it worth the switch?
I have a general idea of what I would need to do to update. Unroot, restore the bloatware I have removed using LGs PC suite, update and root again. Or is there a flashable zip of the update that i can just download? I hit update during first prompt and I was stuck rebooting into TWRP so i had to flash an image recovery file to get back.
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And there are stock roms in the forums, just flash a stock (lp) ROM done. If you don't like flash back to a backup of kk
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Why I don't receive update to lolipop on my D850?
If connect to pc says ...no update availible,have stock 4.4.2 and same message if try to OTA.
My phone is AT&T factory unlocked and live in Europe(Romania).
What can I do?
Thanks
adilau said:
Why I don't receive update to lolipop on my D850?
If connect to pc says ...no update availible,have stock 4.4.2 and same message if try to OTA.
My phone is AT&T factory unlocked and live in Europe(Romania).
What can I do?
Thanks
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you have to be on the at&t network to receive updates from them
Another way without root?
Trimis de pe G3
I just bought my phone and Im on Tmobile, do you know how do I upgrade to lollipop?
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default boot set to bootloader not system

i had upgraded my mexi-maxx to lollipop a few months ago and could no longer stand it. outside of being picky with my phone, the GPS didn't work as I had hoped.
i reverted back to kitkat by means of a TWRP backup I had. Had some issues with doing so. some of my images would not work, but a stock on of KK did. could not use any of @ChazzMatt images either; nor factory images as RSD pinged a FAIL. started getting worried, but just about all good now.
the phone now boots directly to bootloader mode and i have to choose 'start' to boot into system.
is there a way to change this? thanks all.
You can try Brazil 22.34.16 lollipop build, it is the most stable 5.0.2 for moto maxx / turbo atm. Your issue is caused by the incompability with the lollipop bootloader and 4.4 kitkat twrp image. Take a copy of your nandroid backup to your pc and flash 4.4.4 images except gpt.bin.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/help/tutorial-how-to-flash-official-firmware-t3074724 ( following 5.step )
Then flash twrp recovery and restore your 4.4.4 nandroid, it will be fine this time.
Semseddin said:
You can try Brazil 22.34.16 lollipop build, it is the most stable 5.0.2 for moto maxx / turbo atm. Your issue is caused by the incompability with the lollipop bootloader and 4.4 kitkat twrp image. Take a copy of your nandroid backup to your pc and flash 4.4.4 images except gpt.bin.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/help/tutorial-how-to-flash-official-firmware-t3074724 ( following 5.step )
Then flash twrp recovery and restore your 4.4.4 nandroid, it will be fine this time.
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Thanks. really dislike LP as a whole. are there advantages i'm not seeing? battery was the same, wasn't really faster, GPS terrible (used stock rooted and CM12.1)
want to make sure I understand what i'm doing. according to thread you linked to (thank you btw I could not find that earlier too busy freaking out) because i took the LP OTA i have the upgraded LP bootloader, but I do not need to downgrade it to go back to KK? meaning LP BL is backwards compatible?
snowboardwcu said:
Thanks. really dislike LP as a whole. are there advantages i'm not seeing? battery was the same, wasn't really faster, GPS terrible (used stock rooted and CM12.1)
want to make sure I understand what i'm doing. according to thread you linked to (thank you btw I could not find that earlier too busy freaking out) because i took the LP OTA i have the upgraded LP bootloader, but I do not need to downgrade it to go back to KK? meaning LP BL is backwards compatible?
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You need to downgrade to 4.4.4 with stock images except gpt.bin or else, it is normal having issues like you're facing. Lollipop bootloader is meant to work on lollipop system. Anyway, just flash 4.4.4 full images with mfastboot except gpt.bin, then flash your twrp recovery and restore your kitkat nandroid. It will be fine.
I downgraded my xt1225 back in time with the same tutorial and it works fine.
this works perfectly. old twrps work again.
trying to the india version of LP as some are saying its vetter, installed and then put cm12.1 back on. gonna give it a week or so and see if GPS locks better. if not, back to kitkat. thanks for the help.
snowboardwcu said:
this works perfectly. old twrps work again.
trying to the india version of LP as some are saying its vetter, installed and then put cm12.1 back on. gonna give it a week or so and see if GPS locks better. if not, back to kitkat. thanks for the help.
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India firmware is as bogus as a software can get and they didn't deploy patch ota's to fix its issues. Your best stock lolipop bet is brazil 5.0.2
Semseddin said:
India firmware is as bogus as a software can get
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bogus as in not official or bogus as in crap sw&support? again, no interest in using stock LP. cm12.1 fits all my needs except the double swipe to pattern unlock, which from what i read i'm stuck with.
at this point i'm only interested in the best driver set for the phone. interested in getting better GPS lock and hopefully better reception at work, in the middle of a giant metal building (kitkat worked much better IMO WRT to reception and LTE/HSPA+ handover)
Semseddin said:
India firmware is as bogus as a software can get and they didn't deploy patch ota's to fix its issues. Your best stock lolipop bet is brazil 5.0.2
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snowboardwcu said:
bogus as in not official or bogus as in crap sw&support? again, no interest in using stock LP. cm12.1 fits all my needs except the double swipe to pattern unlock, which from what i read i'm stuck with.
at this point i'm only interested in the best driver set for the phone. interested in getting better GPS lock and hopefully better reception at work, in the middle of a giant metal building (kitkat worked much better IMO WRT to reception and LTE/HSPA+ handover)
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If you were just running stock LP -- which you say you do not want to do -- then @Semseddin is correct that Brazil and Mexico factory images are better than India. Just because they both have newer updates India was never given.
In my images thread you can see,
Brazil: QUARK_RETBR_5.0.2_LXG22.33-12.13_cid12_subsidy-DEFAULT_CFC.xml.zip
vs
India: QUARK_RETEU_INDIA_5.0.2_LXG22.33-12.11_cid7_subsidy-DEFAULT_CFC.xml.zip
Then, @Jaocagomez has an OTA which takes it to:
OTA to 22.34.16 Brasil Retail Stock Lollipop 5.0.2 /// Blur_Version.22.34.16.quark_retbr.retbr.en.BR.zip
But CM12.1 beats all that by having 5.1.1.
Yes, CM 12.1 (5.1.1) is still using the stock 5.0.2 kernel source -- because Motorola has not yet released 5.1 kernel source they gave to the XT1254 Droid Turbo back at the beginning of July. But it's still 5.1.1 with 5.02 kernel source, NOT 5.0.2. with 5.02 kernel source. It's a vast improvement! Stock 5.0.2 was too laggy for me.
So, for me running CM12.1 (or another 5.1.1 custom ROM) gives me the best of both worlds. I have the latest kernel source/radio that Motorola has released for our phones, while still having 5.1.1.
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Now having said all that, my wife and I have two XT1225.
I flashed both to India LP 5.0.2, then flashed CM.
I also re-flashed the India radio and bootloader (5.0.2) found in the CM12.1 op post just to make sure.
I have no problem with GPS. I use GPS every day. But I use TopNTP. See this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62320192&postcount=624
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The only issues I have with CM12.1 is my phone seems to lock on to HSPA when leaving Wi-Fi network even though there are strong LTE signals around -- and even though I have "LTE Preferred" chosen. As I drive it will eventually move from HSPA to LTE, but takes like 15-20 minutes.
If I stop the car, remove and put back in the SIM card 2 or 3 times, then it finally locks onto LTE network that was there all along!
It was a change CM made to APNs/telephony back end of July that seems to cause this. (I kept my wife's phone on the July 29 nightly. We will be in the car, she will have LTE and I will have HSPA. Arghhh.)
But I put up with it, and keep flashing new nightlies -- hoping it will be fixed -- and also because other than that CM12.1 is very smooth and much better than stock 5.0.2. I don't want to flash my phone back to July 29 nightly. I still have it -- but I would have to wipe my phone completely and reinstall for it to work. I already tried just flashing that older nightly over a newer one and I got boot loops. I restored latest back up from recovery and haven't bothered since.
Fixed this issue. See here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63048064&postcount=696
ChazzMatt said:
The only issues I have with CM12.1 is my phone seems to lock on to HSPA when leaving Wi-Fi network even though there are strong LTE signals around -- and even though I have "LTE Preferred" chosen. As I drive it will eventually move from HSPA to LTE, but takes like 15-20 minutes.
If I stop the car, remove and put back in the SIM card 2 or 3 times, then it finally locks onto LTE network that was there all along!
It was a change CM made to APNs/telephony back end of July that seems to cause this. (I kept my wife's phone on the July 29 nightly. We will be in the car, she will have LTE and I will have HSPA. Arghhh.)
But I put up with it, and keep flashing new nightlies -- hoping it will be fixed -- and also because other than that CM12.1 is very smooth and much better than stock 5.0.2. I don't want to flash my phone back to July 29 nightly. I still have it -- but I would have to wipe my phone completely and reinstall for it to work. I already tried just flashing that older nightly over a newer one and I got boot loops. I restored latest back up from recovery and haven't bothered since.
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