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Just received my One S yesterday and after about 10 Mins of use it felt a little hot on the backside. And this is without any type case on it, so I then unlocked bootloader and rooted and lowered the CPU Speed but it still feels kinda hot after very little use. Has anybody else felt this........
its normal.
i have it too.
rawtek said:
Just received my One S yesterday and after about 10 Mins of use it felt a little hot on the backside. And this is without any type case on it, so I then unlocked bootloader and rooted and lowered the CPU Speed but it still feels kinda hot after very little use. Has anybody else felt this........
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How hot you are talking about? Did you play any heavy game or something?
You can install some battery app to see what the temperature it goes so people could compare yours with theirs.
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The only point at which it got a bit too hot for my comfort was sitting in my lap with GPS and google navigation running for about 20 minutes screen at full brightness. Picked it up and was a tad bit toasty.
Other than that, gaming, video streaming etc no heat issues outside what i consider normal for this type of device.
I had some weird heat issues the first couple of days when I got my phone, then I started using an app killer, didn't help... so I stopped using it, and the heat isn't as bad as it was before. It's due to heavy cpu/gpu usage from hd games or just installed apps that don't have any cache data, or high visual load ones in general.
h.han said:
How hot you are talking about? Did you play any heavy game or something?
You can install some battery app to see what the temperature it goes so people could compare yours with theirs.
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No Gaming just browsing and normal things like texting and google +.
Dont get me wrong it runs fine with no reboots or freezing, just felt a bit weird when it got hot posting to google+ other than that it runs like a champ
The temperature in my city is around 40°C.. But real-feel is around 42°C...Summer has just started and my phone is getting hotter than usual... However, the phone is not so hot in idle mode... Its around 31-33°C.. However, after playing few games or browsing for around 20-25 mins, my nexus s is getting hotter and hotter.. I can feel it in my hands... But still, the battery temp is showing 36-37°C only... I've never even seen 38°C on my phone... But still, I can feel the touchscreen is getting very very hot...
After opening the back cover, I began examining myself.. I noted:
The battery is not that hot
The sim area is very hot (I even started my phone without the SIM card, but same result)
The area beneath the camera and flash is also too hot..
The touchscreen itself is getting v.v hottttt.... I cannot play touch games anymore... However, the lower part of the touchscreen is absolutely normal...
When charging, the temperature doesn't goes more than 35°C... However, I can feel the back side is warmer...
2months ago, when the temp was around 30-32°C, I've never had this problem Everything was fine and running perfectly... Still now, everything runs smoothly without lags
I've never heard that touchscreen is hott... I've had many phones and my city's temp remains mild mostly... So, what could be the problem?
I am using:
Carbon unofficial
Marmite 8.5cm_bigmen
No over/under clocking
Vooodoo sound with +5db (Hardware highest)
Ondemand with cfq
Battery timings: 1.5day with normal use (4-5hrs of screen time)
1day with heavy use (6-7hrs of screen time)
Should I revert back to stock ROM?
Is there any IC problem?
Battery problem?
Processor problem?
Or is it normal for the phone to get hot in hot temperatures (42°C)???
Should I see a doctor?
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Its normal dude. If you want to keep it cooler than don't keep the brightness too high.
One thing that can REALLY heat up my phone is playing games at 100% brightness on a hot day so try to avoid that.
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Gambler_3 said:
Its normal dude. If you want to keep it cooler than don't keep the brightness too high.
One thing that can REALLY heat up my phone is playing games at 100% brightness on a hot day so try to avoid that.
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Oh Thanks man... I was really really worried...
Just another thing? Why is the place is getting that hot where the processor is placed...?? Is it the end of my phone?
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Oh Thanks man... I was really really worried...
Just another thing? Why is the place is getting that hot where the processor is placed...?? Is it the end of my phone?
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No dude the same areas as you describe are the ones that can get really hot on my phone.
My i9023 gets really hot if i play games at max brightness, so now I avoid playing games.
And yes, it also gets hot in the processor area, not the battery.
ej8989 said:
My i9023 gets really hot if i play games at max brightness, so now I avoid playing games.
And yes, it also gets hot in the processor area, not the battery.
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Now, my phone is getting very hot while playing Asphalt 6 or even Fruit Ninja... Only the processor side (Top portion of touchscreen and its back portion) is getting hot... Battery is definitely cool (Not more than 38degree)...
What could be the problem? My processor has gone mad or what? I've even tried undervolting as well as processing speed to 800Mhz max... But overheating remains
My phone gets hot only when I'm on full brightness and a game I usually put it at half brightness and it never happens even when playing mc4
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tamalepirates said:
My phone gets hot only when I'm on full brightness and a game I usually put it at half brightness and it never happens even when playing mc4
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This is absolutely true. I have Nexus S since 4 months... There was no problem at all then.. everything normal and running fine and never overheated at all no matter what i play...
This overheating problem started few days back when I tested overclocking and overvolting NS
Seem's this is the problem..
I think I have roasted the processor and it will always remain like that.. I will have to sell it soon now
Maisam.asif said:
This is absolutely true. I have Nexus S since 4 months... There was no problem at all then.. everything normal and running fine and never overheated at all no matter what i play...
This overheating problem started few days back when I tested overclocking and overvolting NS
Seem's this is the problem..
I think I have roasted the processor and it will always remain like that.. I will have to sell it soon now
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is it still over heating on half brightness?
It is... I am on 3% brightness...
Should I give a try to a new OEM battery?
Will it resolve the overheat issue?
Why is the processor heating up too quickly? Has I finished its life by overcloking it? Or it is a battery issue?
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I went to the local market for some inspection of my phone. The person said that your phone is not giving maximum current and the charging ic is getting very hot and has to be changed... How is this possible? I've never had any problem with my phone like this... 100% charging was always OK for me
Well, I guess it's pretty normal if a phone gets hot while playing hardcore games.
But is it supposed to get this hot while playing games? Sometimes, just by playing Plants Vs. Zombies 2, the phone gets really hot (hotter on the camera part of the phone) that makes it unplayable due to the hotness that makes the camera part untouchable (or I'll get hurt)
I'm asking if this is normal, and if it happens to you guys.
I'm new here btw, so go easy on me
Love ya
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Well, I guess it's pretty normal if a phone gets hot while playing hardcore games.
But it is supposed to get this hot while playing games? Sometimes, just by playing Plants Vs. Zombies 2, the phone gets really hot (hotter on the camera part of the phone) that makes it unplayable due to the hotness that makes the camera part untouchable (or I'll get hurt)
I'm asking if this is normal, and if it happens to you guys.
I'm new here btw, so go easy on me
Love ya
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Not to be rude but does it really get that hot that you feel like you'll get hurt? I've played games before and the phone has gotten warm like all other phones I've ever owned but hot enough to "hurt me" I haven't noticed.
What I can say is that it's possible that the software (either CM11s ROM or the game you're playing) isn't fully optimized to run on the OPO so it may have the processor working extra hard when it shouldn't have to.
Remember we're basically beta testing this lovely gem so a lot of bugs and such are to be expected since the phone isn't officially open to the public.
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Not to be rude but does it really get that hot that you feel like you'll get hurt? I've played games before and the phone has gotten warm like all other phones I've ever owned but hot enough to "hurt me" I haven't noticed.
What I can say is that it's possible that the software (either CM11s ROM or the game you're playing) isn't fully optimized to run on the OPO so it may have the processor working extra hard when it shouldn't have to.
Remember we're basically beta testing this lovely gem so a lot of bugs and such are to be expected since the phone isn't officially open to the public.
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Well, first of all, it does not happen with just Plants Vs Zombies 2, I gave that game as an example because I usually play more-demanding games (not saying that pvz2 is not a demanding game, actually, i have no idea)
And answering your question, yes, it does get hot enough to hurt me, since the camera part is where it really gets hot, and there is a metal/plastic (yes i can't distinguish, i suck) piece on the camera that when it gets hot, is really untouchable, reaching the point where it hurts by touching it.
Oh, thanks for your reply
I don't have it but then again I can't really talk since I'm not on stock ROM/Kernel. I'm using a custom rom/kernel which uses different algorithms to thermal throttling which keeps the phone nice and cold or not as warm.
Depends on where you are too, if you're playing it outside and its really warm (it is Summer) then yeah.
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I don't have it but then again I can't really talk since I'm not on stock ROM/Kernel. I'm using a custom rom/kernel which uses different algorithms to thermal throttling which keeps the phone nice and cold or not as warm.
Depends on where you are too, if you're playing it outside and its really warm (it is Summer) then yeah.
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Uhm, yes, it's truth that i'm using stock ROM, but i can assure that the current weather on my place has nothing to do with it getting really hot or not.
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Well, first of all, it does not happen with just Plants Vs Zombies 2, I gave that game as an example because I usually play more-demanding games (not saying that pvz2 is not a demanding game, actually, i have no idea)
And answering your question, yes, it does get hot enough to hurt me, since the camera part is where it really gets hot, and there is a metal/plastic (yes i can't distinguish, i suck) piece on the camera that when it gets hot, is really untouchable, reaching the point where it hurts by touching it.
Oh, thanks for your reply
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Yeah, my OPO gets this hot as well when I'm playing XCOM--the only "demanding" game I have on it at the moment. When I play other games, or during other normal usage it stays relatively cool. It gets a bit warm when charging, but that's expected from this charger.
I only just got it yesterday morning, so have only had limited testing time, but I'm getting the same thing with the front and back of the phone getting very hot, and the metal piece on the camera getting painfully hot (I have to watch how I hold it so I don't accidently touch it). I wasplaying XCOM for about an hour (the length of my train ride home) and it was hot pretty much from the start. After that hour the game finally crashed... I started it back up and within 5 min it crashed again. Guess that means it's getting throttled?
I'll be testing it again on my ride home later.
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Uhm, yes, it's truth that i'm using stock ROM, but i can assure that the current weather on my place has nothing to do with it getting really hot or not.
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I'm using stock rom too.
Yep, it does get very hot while playing, mainly around the camera area, doesnt really bother me, I guess that with a case you wouldnt even feel it.
What do you expect? This device, like any computing device, when put under CPU load is going to generate heat, it's computing 101 guys. This is why PC's have cooling fans.
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What do you expect? This device, like any computing device, when put under CPU load is going to generate heat, it's computing 101 guys. This is why PC's have cooling fans.
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Yeah, but when we decide to buy a high-end phone, with a really good GPU and CPU, we expect some kind of use to it. Since, in my opinion, having a good GPU, means that we can play high demanding games, and watch some cool high quality movies. I personally want this phone mainly to play those kind of games, that was actually the purpose of buying this phone: knowing that i can play any kind of game i throw at it.
So yeah, I agree that like any computing device, it's normal to get hot. But is it supposed to get so hot, even hurting the holder just because he's playing Plants Vs Zombies 2 for 10 minutes? This issue kinda beats the purpose of having a great GPU. It has a great GPU yeah, but what's the purpose of having it if it overheats the phone?
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Yeah, but when we decide to buy a high-end phone, with a really good GPU and CPU, we expect some kind of use to it. Since, in my opinion, having a good GPU, means that we can play high demanding games, and watch some cool high quality movies. I personally want this phone mainly to play those kind of games, that was actually the purpose of buying this phone: knowing that i can play any kind of game i throw at it.
So yeah, I agree that like any computing device, it's normal to get hot. But is it supposed to get so hot, even hurting the holder just because he's playing Plants Vs Zombies 2 for 10 minutes? This issue kinda beats the purpose of having a great GPU. It has a great GPU yeah, but what's the purpose of having it if it overheats the phone?
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You bring up a lot of good points. Its just the way the phone's thermal driver operates. Alternatively, you can switch to a kernel that operates their thermal driver differently.
What is a thermal driver?
The generic thermal sysfs provides a set of interfaces for thermal zone devices (sensors) and thermal cooling devices (fan, processor...) to register with the thermal management solution and to be a part of it.
https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/thermal/sysfs-api.txt
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Basically its responsible for keeping your device nice and cool. Third party kernels such as: Franco, AK kernel, furnace and various custom ROM kernels have a modified thermal driver which can help with your phone overheating. For instance, using Franco Kernel he has his own thermal driver and also removes Qualcomm's mpdecision with his own hotplugging algorithm (powering cores 3/4 on or off depending on the load). You can also downclock your phone using these kernels (as well on stock) to lower the performance of your phone so that it does not heat up but also meet a balance of your phone not lagging with the lower clock.
Other thermal drivers include: Faux's Intellithermal and so forth.
warlynx said:
Yeah, but when we decide to buy a high-end phone, with a really good GPU and CPU, we expect some kind of use to it. Since, in my opinion, having a good GPU, means that we can play high demanding games, and watch some cool high quality movies. I personally want this phone mainly to play those kind of games, that was actually the purpose of buying this phone: knowing that i can play any kind of game i throw at it.
So yeah, I agree that like any computing device, it's normal to get hot. But is it supposed to get so hot, even hurting the holder just because he's playing Plants Vs Zombies 2 for 10 minutes? This issue kinda beats the purpose of having a great GPU. It has a great GPU yeah, but what's the purpose of having it if it overheats the phone?
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Fair enough, but your high end CPU and GPU are performing as they should be, and because there is no physical cooling system on your phone it's going to get hot. Just because it's a high end device it doesn't mean it shouldn't get hot. The fact that it has such high spec components actually suggests that it'd heat up more than your average phone. By your logic, a high end gaming PC shouldn't heat up, but we know that isn't the case.
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Fair enough, but your high end CPU and GPU are performing as they should be, and because there is no physical cooling system on your phone it's going to get hot. Just because it's a high end device it doesn't mean it shouldn't get hot. The fact that it has such high spec components actually suggests that it'd heat up more than your average phone. By your logic, a high end gaming PC shouldn't heat up, but we know that isn't the case.
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Adding to your point... a high end gaming laptop ... yeah a highend gaming PC heats up but its not as obvious, at least not for some people unless they're on air cooling and can hear the fans. A highend gaming laptop or any multimedia laptop playing games would heat up whatever surface its laying on as well as blowing out hot air.
My point still stands as stated before if OP doesn't want his phone to get "super" hot during games, flash a custom kernel, buy FKU and set up a per-app-mode, I can play PvZ 2 and can downclock it down to 1.5-1.7 (or even lower) without any lag. Just play around with it to get to that sweet spot where you find a balance between performance and battery as well as having your phone not heat up as much as stock.
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Adding to your point... a high end gaming laptop ... yeah a highend gaming PC heats up but its not as obvious, at least not for some people unless they're on air cooling and can hear the fans. A highend gaming laptop or any multimedia laptop playing games would heat up whatever surface its laying on as well as blowing out hot air.
My point still stands as stated before if OP doesn't want his phone to get "super" hot during games, flash a custom kernel, buy FKU and set up a per-app-mode, I can play PvZ 2 and can downclock it down to 1.5-1.7 (or even lower) without any lag. Just play around with it to get to that sweet spot where you find a balance between performance and battery as well as having your phone not heat up as much as stock.
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Thanks for your reply and for presenting me some solutions, but I forgot to mention that I flashed Paranoid Android already, and from my knowledge, I think I read that it has Franco's Kernel already, so there's no need to flash it, i suppose (correct me if wrong)?
And even flashing that custom ROM, the problem still persists. So, I guess the only solution is to downclock the phone while playing those games.
warlynx said:
Thanks for your reply and for presenting me some solutions, but I forgot to mention that I flashed Paranoid Android already, and from my knowledge, I think I read that it has Franco's Kernel already, so there's no need to flash it, i suppose (correct me if wrong)?
And even flashing that custom ROM, the problem still persists. So, I guess the only solution is to downclock the phone while playing those games.
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I'm not too familiar with that, I know Franco is on PA's team but their kernel probably isn't 100% Franco Kernel. I could be wrong on this, I am not fully familiar with the situation but you might as well just flash Franco Kernel over it just so you're safe. If you have his FKU app then you can set Per-App-Mode as I mentioned previously.
Custom ROM isn't going to help your phone be "cooler" in temperature. Its on the kernel side of things. You'll need to downclock the phone accordingly on CPU frequency and GPU frequency. I was able to play 1.2-1.7GHz with 330 MHz on GPU. Don't take what I post for granted though, you'll need to sit down and try it out yourself to get the balance between temperature and performance.
At the end of the day, you'll also squeeze out more battery life playing the game too so thats always nice. Lowered temperatures and additional battery life? :victory:
warlynx said:
Well, I guess it's pretty normal if a phone gets hot while playing hardcore games.
But is it supposed to get this hot while playing games? Sometimes, just by playing Plants Vs. Zombies 2, the phone gets really hot (hotter on the camera part of the phone) that makes it unplayable due to the hotness that makes the camera part untouchable (or I'll get hurt)
I'm asking if this is normal, and if it happens to you guys.
I'm new here btw, so go easy on me
Love ya
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Yes, mine gets too damn hot as well, to the point of burning my fingers, and I was not gaming, just browsing the internet while charging...
It even smells like "hot laptop" and even in the morning, after being charging and off all night, it was still hot...
Also, on my side pocket, I could feel it's heat on my leg while driving...
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Yes, mine gets too damn hot as well, to the point of burning my fingers, and I was not gaming, just browsing the internet while charging...
It even smells like "hot laptop" and even in the morning, after being charging and off all night, it was still hot...
Also, on my side pocket, I could feel it's heat on my leg while driving...
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It's probably not a great idea to leave your phone on charge all night. You can't overcharge it, but the more time the battery spends at the peak voltage (4.2v) the faster it will degrade. Just a tip.
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It's probably not a great idea to leave your phone on charge all night. You can't overcharge it, but the more time the battery spends at the peak voltage (4.2v) the faster it will degrade. Just a tip.
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Have to check ao much time it will take to reach 100% and then switch it off via timer or such, but I never had this problem with other phones.
Also the OPO charger it's rated at 5V-2.1A and not even my tablets had such chargers...
The highest one I've it's the Nexus 7 one, that's rated at 5.2V-1.5A.
i recently getting extrene heat on my OnePlus to the point that i have to stop n reboot the phone for it to cool down. I have been playing brave frontier since the 1st firmware. The phone runs fine smooth. N suddenly it gets really hot in just 15min play of the game.
I have to stop n reboot the phone. Otherwise it still hot even though i quit the game without reboot. So reboot is a must.
The same thing happened to me today when I downloaded XCOM Enemy Within. I had the phone on "performance" mode. Its pretty much just stock everything, except I unlocked the bootloader, root, etc. I'm going to try and play in on "power save" mode tomorrow. (its late as hell, I should be asleep, I work in 5 hours.) anyway, if that doesn't work, then I will try installing the Franco kernel.
Same problem!
First I really love my OBO, actually I think I'm in love withit. Ohh my god - I'm in love!
But I have the same problem - the fix no. 1 for me was Clean Master and Battery Doctor. I start the cleaning process, and stop all other applications before I start Simcity.
Ohh **** did I just said Simcity! Okay wtf, yes i'm 31 years old, I play Simcity and I'm proud of it...
Fix no.2: have your phone in the hands so it can breath, and not on the couch / bed so the hot air can't escape
I don't know anything about flash, kennel, root and what you young beautiful people call it.
Last but not least, I thank God and myself everyday for switching from iPhone to the best phone ever - The amazing OnePlus One.
Hope the 2 fix can help some.
I just got 17-18k on antutu. Stock rom,stock kernel. With elementalx kernel i can reach 27k but it is still bad for elemental x. What's wrong with my phone ? i flashed factory image again nothing changed also i just noticed when i underclock my cpu to 1.7 ghz i'm getting 28k on antutu.
Thermal throttle
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Thermal throttle
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Thanks for your answer.Is it normal ? I just bought this phone. So is this same for all other people ? One of my friends told me he got higher scores. If it isn't a general problem how i can prevent thermal throttle ?
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Thanks for your answer.Is it normal ? I just bought this phone. So is this same for all other people ? One of my friends told me he got higher scores. If it isn't a general problem how i can prevent thermal throttle ?
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By letting the phone cool down before the benchmark, or use a custom kernel which raises or disables it.
The other thing is to not care about benchmarks...
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By letting the phone cool down before the benchmark, or use a custom kernel which raises or disables it.
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I'm letting the phone cool down already. But it heats very fast during benchmark. I put it on fridge and i got 30k lol . Anyway there is nothing i can do.
Thanks for helping me :good:
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I'm letting the phone cool down already. But it heats very fast during benchmark. I put it on fridge and i got 30k lol . Anyway there is nothing i can do.
Thanks for helping me :good:
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Why do you care about benchmarks in the first place......
Putting your phone in the fridge, then getting an AMAZING score...does it make your day? Does showing it off make you happy? It's not what the phone is primarily designed for....it has much more useful functions, you know like internet, email, calling, gaming, photos...
More importantly...imagine benchmarks didn't exist for a moment. Did your phone actually feel slow before you did all these 'tests'??? Did you need to get 30k before you felt happy? Does a 'lower score' completely ruin the actual day to day user experience...
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Why do you care about benchmarks in the first place......
Putting your phone in the fridge, then getting an AMAZING score...does it make your day? Does showing it off make you happy? It's not what the phone is primarily designed for....it has much more useful functions, you know like internet, email, calling, gaming, photos...
More importantly...imagine benchmarks didn't exist for a moment. Did your phone actually feel slow before you did all these 'tests'??? Did you need to get 30k before you felt happy? Does a 'lower score' completely ruin the actual day to day user experience...
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Firstly i don't need to tell you why i'm trying to get higher score but i will because you're talking too agresively with me without reason.I don't care about score. If every nexus 5 would be the same and get just 15k score including mine i would accept my phone with 15k. But others phones get higher and there is something wrong with mine. It's getting hot more than others. So that's not like it should be.I hope you understood why i'm trying to fix it and sorry if my english isn't understandable.
No. Your phone isn't heating up more. You're starting when the device is already warm.
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No. Your phone isn't heating up more. You're starting when the device is already warm.
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I'm pretty sure i'm starting it when it's cold. I didn't touch it for 15 minutes isn't it enough ?
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I'm pretty sure i'm starting it when it's cold. I didn't touch it for 15 minutes isn't it enough ?
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At least use an app to look at CPU temp ._.
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At least use an app to look at CPU temp ._.
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Hmm you're right. Do you know a good one ? I got 28.8k now with elemental x kernel with "Undervolt" feature. To be honest i don't know how much is normal for a nexus 5 device with this kernel.
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Yes do you, that's why you opened the thread..
The post sounds aggressive, but it's really trying to change the way you think about scores in the first place..
But others phones get higher and there is something wrong with mine.
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No, just because other people get highers 'scores' does not mean there is something wrong with your phone.
Before you started running 'tests', were you experiencing any actual issues?
It's getting hot more than others. So that's not like it should be.I hope you understood why i'm trying to fix it and sorry if my english isn't understandable.
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If it's getting hot, is this because you're running unnecessary benchmarks...
Or any other activities which are causing it to get hot? This could be an app or hardware issue, both nothing to do with your benchmark. Are you comparing actual temperatures in degrees to identical phones doing exactly the same activities side by side, or does it just feel a bit warmer?
What I'm trying to say is your obsession with the score is causing you unnecessary stress...you are trying to fix something which does not need fixing.
So go back to the original thinking:
- Imagine scores don't exist
- Did the phone actually feel slow in day to day normal usage before you started running benchmarks?
Or:
- Stop running tests, forget about them
- Use the phone normally
- Enjoy using the phone again
Let...it...go...
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Yes do you, that's why you opened the thread..
The post sounds aggressive, but it's really trying to change the way you think about scores in the first place..
No, just because other people get highers 'scores' does not mean there is something wrong with your phone.
Before you started running 'tests', were you experiencing any actual issues?
If it's getting hot, is this because you're running unnecessary benchmarks...
Or any other activities which are causing it to get hot? This could be an app or hardware issue, both nothing to do with your benchmark. Are you comparing actual temperatures in degrees to identical phones doing exactly the same activities side by side, or does it just feel a bit warmer?
What I'm trying to say is your obsession with the score is causing you unnecessary stress...you are trying to fix something which does not need fixing.
So go back to the original thinking:
- Imagine scores don't exist
- Did the phone actually feel slow in day to day normal usage before you started running benchmarks?
Or:
- Stop running tests, forget about them
- Use the phone normally
- Enjoy using the phone again
Let...it...go...
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The first time run it i just wanted to see how my phone is powerful because i felt a little lag on asphalt 8 yesterday, so yes i wasn't expecting any issues but when i saw i got 17k i think that difference is just huge. I don't care if my device is same at gaming,multitasking with other nexus devices but benchmark makes me think it's not right.
In normal usage; yeah it is fast But I'm not sure my device is how it's supposed to be like this. But if you say it's normal and benchmark's not meaning anything i won't care. But there should be a reason all devices got different scores.
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The first time run it i just wanted to see how my phone is powerful because i felt a little lag on asphalt 8 yesterday, so yes i wasn't expecting any issues but when i saw i got 17k i think that difference is just huge. I don't care if my device is same at gaming,multitasking with other nexus devices but benchmark makes me think it's not right.
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So it is sort of only the benchmark which is making you think something is not right
You don't need a score to see how powerful your phone is. It will breeze through most tasks just fine. "A little lag" on a graphically intense game is to be expected sometimes.
Gaming -> High CPU load -> heat -> thermal throttle -> bit of lag
Laws of physics
In normal usage; yeah it is fast
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This is the only real 'benchmark' which is actually important in normal day to day usage.
But I'm not sure my device is how it's supposed to be like this. But if you say it's normal and benchmark's not meaning anything i won't care. But there should be a reason all devices got different scores.
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Yes there is a reason we all get different scores, the same reason we all get different battery life. There are many variables, not least temperature and thermal throttling.
We have different number of apps installed and running at any one time, things syncing, mods, scripts, ROMs, kernels, all different. No two CPUs and Nexus 5s are exactly identical either. So therefore you get different 'scores'. Even if you had two stock factory reset phones side by side running the same test, they'll get different scores.
And just because your score is lower, it doesnt necessarily mean that something is wrong, or that your phone is always slow. It is just a nominal number from an app at a particular point in time. It still feels fast, and is fast...
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So it is sort of only the benchmark which is making you think something is not right
Even if you had two stock factory reset phones side by side running the same test, they'll get different scores.
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It doesn't make any sense
And just because your score is lower, it doesnt necessarily mean that something is wrong, or that your phone is always slow. It is just a nominal number from an app at a particular point in time. It still feels fast, and is fast...
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Okey, i trust you. Since i just bought phone and didn't test it much really i won't test it or try to improve it for now.
The way a phone works doesn't lend itself well to benchmarks. That's why manufacturers like Samsung have traditionally "cheated" on benchmarks by ensuring maximum clock speeds are used when they detect a bench marking application.
If you want to maximize your benchmark scores you simply need to disable thermal throttling (or increase its limit) and also use optimized Dalvik copied from another device.
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The other thing is to not care about benchmarks...
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This. Thermal throttle is a way to keep your phone regulated into normal temperatures specified by the device manufacturer. However, it's generally safe to raise it a bit, mine is set to 85.
aw man, its too bad i wasnt around earlier
Hi! I have G930F. I installed TWRP and installed DevBase v5.7 rom. When i flashed TGP kernel and played heavy game while 10 min, phone gets so hot. When i cheked battery temperature its showing 43°C. It is normal?
Finnishman said:
Hi! I have G930F. I installed TWRP and installed DevBase v5.7 rom. When i flashed TGP kernel and played heavy game while 10 min, phone gets so hot. When i cheked battery temperature its showing 43°C. It is normal?
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LITTLE core looks like running all the time and i thing its cause heating. How i can fix this problem?
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LITTLE core looks like running all the time and i thing its cause heating. How i can fix this problem?
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Hello,
Exact same problem here.
I'm running latest LineageOS official.
What app are you using ? I can't find that one called "little" on the play store...
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Hello,
Exact same problem here.
I'm running latest LineageOS official.
What app are you using ? I can't find that one called "little" on the play store...
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I using mtweaks app
Thx, well it's not exactly the same problem as you have since my CPUs are running in low power state when the phone is not used.
Anyway, when I start browsing the internet, the phone gets hot and when I'm playing games, it just gets super-hot. (not in charge while using it btw).
Previously, I had a Nexus 4 which is famous for its overheating problems, but the S7 is worse.
This, the ill placed speaker, the poor quality of the AMOLED, I'm so disappointment with this phone.
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Thx, well it's not exactly the same problem as you have since my CPUs are running in low power state when the phone is not used.
Anyway, when I start browsing the internet, the phone gets hot and when I'm playing games, it just gets super-hot. (not in charge while using it btw).
Previously, I had a Nexus 4 which is famous for its overheating problems, but the S7 is worse.
This, the ill placed speaker, the poor quality of the AMOLED, I'm so disappointment with this phone.
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The AMOLED screen on the S7 was widely regarded as the best screen on a mobile phone when it was introduced.
You're running an unofficial ROM + kernel and running into problems and are blaming the phone? Lots of people seem to hold LineageOS up as the solution to all problems, but on many devices it seems to be a giant hack.
This screen is a piece of **** (mura effect & spots when lowering the brightness), my Nexus 4 screen is at least 10X better.
I'm running Cyanogenmod/LineageOS since the very beginning, never had this kind of problem before...
The S7 Exynos phones do tend to get a bit warm if you're browsing certain websites, Facebook and streaming, and it'll get hot if you're playing resource intensive games like GTA & Bully. That's what happens when your device's CPUs can reach a max clock speed of 2704MHz. Take a look at what apps are running in the background first.
I'm only able to read the battery temp sensor, no other sensor available despite having tried a lot of monitoring apps.
Idle temp : around 29-33°C
Heavy use : up to 45°C
Past 39°C, the phone gets really uncomfortable to use.
I did further testing with another S7 (carrier firmware, brand new), launched a stress-test app on both phones at the same time and after 15 min, mine is 4°C hotter (battery temp). It's not really relevant, maybe due to my tempered glass preventing heat dissipation or some LineageOS optimizations, I don't know. Anyway, the S7 feels way hotter than my previous phones.
it's strange that power user/advanced user have to complaining about overheating and comparing with other brand when they are running unofficial software and kernel. and i think the word 'overheating' is about the cpu/chipset not the battery. *correct me*
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have to complaining
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have to complain
maXDAmn said:
comparing with other brand when they are running unofficial software and kernel.
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Irrelevant since the other S7 is running pretty hot too.
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and i think the word 'overheating' is about the cpu/chipset not the battery. *correct me*
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Yes but I only have access to the battery sensor. The frame is hot on both phone tough.
i have a snapdragon version of S7 and i don't think exynos version have overheating problem running on official firmware. running Oreo right now and still don't have such problem. and FYI using the phone INFO apps (google playstore), i can see the temperature of the cpu.